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914World.com _ FS/WTB: 914 Parts _ FS Raised spindle struts

Posted by: tradisrad Feb 23 2017, 09:04 AM

For sale is a set of early, pinch bolt style, front struts with raised spindles.
From the bottom of the strut to the bottom of the spindle is about 4". The pinch bolt holes are nice and round.
I would prefer a local SF Bay Area sale, but will ship at buyers expense.
$120 + shipping. Make an offer.

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Posted by: 914forme Feb 23 2017, 05:36 PM

911 M strut 3" spacing, or is this a 914-4 strut, also 3" spacing on the caliper but slightly different spindle.

I am in depending on the answer.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 23 2017, 08:03 PM

QUOTE(914forme @ Feb 23 2017, 06:36 PM) *

911 M strut 3" spacing, or is this a 914-4 strut, also 3" spacing on the caliper but slightly different spindle.

I am in depending on the answer.

They have a straight arm to the tie rod so they are 914-4 struts.
Spindle is narrow at the base, also a 914-4 size.

Posted by: 914forme Feb 23 2017, 09:09 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 23 2017, 09:03 PM) *

QUOTE(914forme @ Feb 23 2017, 06:36 PM) *

911 M strut 3" spacing, or is this a 914-4 strut, also 3" spacing on the caliper but slightly different spindle.

I am in depending on the answer.

They have a straight arm to the tie rod so they are 914-4 struts.
Spindle is narrow at the base, also a 914-4 size.


Thank you Mark, good eye

Posted by: tradisrad Feb 27 2017, 01:27 PM

Bump for price drop to $120

Posted by: stugray Mar 10 2017, 09:02 PM

Can you still fit the wedge style of balljoint in these?

Like these:
http://www.elephantracing.com/suspension/balljoint/914balljoint.htm

If so I am interested if you can ship to 80501

Posted by: bdstone914 Mar 11 2017, 09:16 AM

Can you still fit the wedge style of balljoint in these?

Not as they are made, Maybe they could be modified.

First you should know that these will only work with early rotors and calipers. IF they can be converted to use on a later car you also need to change the flex lines and maybe the hard line from the caliper to flex line.

I wonder if anyone has converted an early strut to use the wedge pin type ball joint and .

The pinch joint early strut like these a have a 10mm hole through the bottom of the strut. The taper pin in 12mm on one end and 8mm on the threaded end. One side would need to be bushed from 12 mm to 8mm. The other side drilled out to 12mm.
The slot for the pinch bolt needs to be welded.
Porsche abandoned this design after only a couple years of use as it was a flawed design that could wollow out the ball joint hole. (per Cap't Crusty and he knew everything).

So maybe you could but you need to decide if it is worth it as opposed to drop spindleing the late strut.
If anyone has done this successfully please chime in.
I just play with parts.
I might put together the parts to see if the hole in the pinch bolt strut lines up with the notch in the wedge pin ball joint.
Not trying to rain on the parade but providing info regarding the fitment and issues.

Bruce

Posted by: stugray Mar 11 2017, 12:46 PM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Mar 11 2017, 08:16 AM) *

Can you still fit the wedge style of balljoint in these?

Not as they are made, Maybe they could be modified.

First you should know that these will only work with early rotors and calipers. IF they can be converted to use on a later car you also need to change the flex lines and maybe the hard line from the caliper to flex line.

I wonder if anyone has converted an early strut to use the wedge pin type ball joint and .

The pinch joint early strut like these a have a 10mm hole through the bottom of the strut. The taper pin in 12mm on one end and 8mm on the threaded end. One side would need to be bushed from 12 mm to 8mm. The other side drilled out to 12mm.
The slot for the pinch bolt needs to be welded.
Porsche abandoned this design after only a couple years of use as it was a flawed design that could wollow out the ball joint hole. (per Cap't Crusty and he knew everything).

So maybe you could but you need to decide if it is worth it as opposed to drop spindleing the late strut.
If anyone has done this successfully please chime in.
I just play with parts.
I might put together the parts to see if the hole in the pinch bolt strut lines up with the notch in the wedge pin ball joint.
Not trying to rain on the parade but providing info regarding the fitment and issues.

Bruce


Thanks for the comments.
I beg to differ on at least one: "these will only work with early rotors and calipers."
I have learned that you can exchange rotors and calipers early vs late as long as you change BOTH the rotors and calipers together.
I have early spindle/struts with Late rotors and calipers.

And my car currently has a wedge pinch bolt ball joint on one side and a regular bolt on the other but both strut/spindles are the same.
I know that is not optimal but it is currently working.
I intend to buy the new offset balljoints but also want the lowered spindles to give me back some shock travel
So I will research some more.
Thank you

Posted by: bdstone914 Mar 11 2017, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(stugray @ Mar 11 2017, 12:46 PM) *

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Mar 11 2017, 08:16 AM) *

Can you still fit the wedge style of balljoint in these?

Not as they are made, Maybe they could be modified.

First you should know that these will only work with early rotors and calipers. IF they can be converted to use on a later car you also need to change the flex lines and maybe the hard line from the caliper to flex line.

I wonder if anyone has converted an early strut to use the wedge pin type ball joint and .

The pinch joint early strut like these a have a 10mm hole through the bottom of the strut. The taper pin in 12mm on one end and 8mm on the threaded end. One side would need to be bushed from 12 mm to 8mm. The other side drilled out to 12mm.
The slot for the pinch bolt needs to be welded.
Porsche abandoned this design after only a couple years of use as it was a flawed design that could wollow out the ball joint hole. (per Cap't Crusty and he knew everything).

So maybe you could but you need to decide if it is worth it as opposed to drop spindleing the late strut.
If anyone has done this successfully please chime in.
I just play with parts.
I might put together the parts to see if the hole in the pinch bolt strut lines up with the notch in the wedge pin ball joint.
Not trying to rain on the parade but providing info regarding the fitment and issues.

Bruce


Thanks for the comments.
I beg to differ on at least one: "these will only work with early rotors and calipers."
I have learned that you can exchange rotors and calipers early vs late as long as you change BOTH the rotors and calipers together.
I have early spindle/struts with Late rotors and calipers.

And my car currently has a wedge pinch bolt ball joint on one side and a regular bolt on the other but both strut/spindles are the same.
I know that is not optimal but it is currently working.
I intend to buy the new offset balljoints but also want the lowered spindles to give me back some shock travel
So I will research some more.
Thank you


I tried early calipers and rotors on late struts and they did not fit. The late struts have offset ears for the calipers. I would be interested to see how you made it work. Found that out after selling a set of late struts aand his calipers would nt go on the struts.

Posted by: tradisrad Mar 18 2017, 08:22 AM

Bump.
Thanks for the additional info & comments. I don't check in that often and don't know a lot about all the nuisance of these, so it's appreciated.

Someone must want them!?? Make an offer.

Posted by: garrettlee2 Mar 19 2017, 09:06 AM

QUOTE(914dave @ Mar 8 2017, 05:00 AM) *

Double post

Will they work with 15" wheels if so I.want them if you would do 100 shipped to riverside California

Posted by: garrettlee2 Mar 21 2017, 09:44 PM

Offer bump

Posted by: tradisrad Apr 6 2017, 07:43 AM

Sorry, Missed the offer bump. No, I dont think they will fit 15" wheels. Please PM for a response.

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