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Posted by: enoz05 Jun 19 2017, 06:09 AM

FS: NOS Hirschmann black mast antenna with black top in the Original box, included are the mountinghardware, instructions and 2 keys. This antenna is correct for 914/914-6 . Price is 225 euro shipping to US included


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Posted by: enoz05 Jul 2 2017, 02:11 AM

This NOS antenna is still available

Posted by: euro911 Jul 2 2017, 08:44 AM

Sheesh ... you can get a new Hirschmann for about $35. from several ebay vendors ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hirschmann-AM-FM-Radio-Antenna-Aerial-Mercedes-108-113-250SL-280SL-SE-SEL-4-5-/232383405751

Posted by: enoz05 Jul 2 2017, 10:50 AM

Correct, But this is a NOS antenna , it's about 40 years old.
The one you can buy for $35 are all reproductions

Posted by: toolguy Jul 2 2017, 12:05 PM

That reasoning may apply to Scotch. . . but . .

Posted by: euro911 Jul 2 2017, 02:06 PM

The 'reproductions'(?) are still made by Hirschmann. Even though the company has been acquired by another firm, the current antennas are still the same product that they made 40 years ago.

Hirschmann Car Communication GmbH
Stuttgarter Straße 45 - 51
72654 Neckartenzlingen
Tel.: +49 7127 14-0
Fax: +49 7127 14-1060
E-Mail: info(at)hirschmann-car.com


$260. USD is a bit steep for a radio antenna


GLWTS

Posted by: scallyk9 Jul 2 2017, 06:14 PM

Uh-huh. But where else can you get a line drawing of a Sunbeam 1250/1500?

Posted by: euro911 Jul 2 2017, 07:20 PM

Have at it

Posted by: enoz05 Jul 6 2017, 09:01 AM

Not for a 40 years old NOS antenna

Posted by: Niklas Jul 6 2017, 10:43 AM

They look the same and costs 1/10.....

A new antenne is a new antenne.

Posted by: euro911 Jul 6 2017, 11:31 AM

My point, exactly

Posted by: enoz05 Jul 6 2017, 12:08 PM

Show me a picture of this new "the same" antenna please

Posted by: euro911 Jul 6 2017, 01:23 PM

OK ... see the link in post# 3 ... there's plenty of them on ebay - and they look pretty much the same as the original 40 year-old ones to me (except for the box they come in).

Like I said, good luck with the sale



EDIT: that particular one sold ... here's the new listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hirschmann-AM-FM-Radio-Antenna-Aerial-Mercedes-108-113-250SL-280SL-SE-SEL-4-5-/362028571524?vxp=mtr

Posted by: enoz05 Jul 6 2017, 02:42 PM

Maybe I'm blind, or you. But this is a totally different antenna. As I can see, you do not know much about Hirschmann antennas. Original Hirschmann antennas have always 3 masts. The one you pictured is a 4 mast antenna, and is a chrome antenna with a chrome tip. The Original antenna I offer is a black 3-mast antenna with a black tip. Maybe you don't see or won't see the different.
Some people buy cheap repro parts for their classic car, but the real Porsche purist only uses original parts. I have 6 of these original antennas and have already sold 3 of them.
Best Regards

Posted by: euro911 Jul 6 2017, 03:51 PM

Well good for you.

My '64 911, '66 and '67 912s as well as my '71 and '75 914s all have Hirschmann antennas ... all of them are original ... and chrome

Like I said, GLWTS

Posted by: 914Next Jul 6 2017, 06:27 PM

Euro, I agree with Enoz that there is a market for originals and a market for those who's cars are not appropriate for or needing completely original parts. Yours is apparently the latter. You're clearly showing some cynicism toward Enoz who is just trying to sell a nos product at a market price. He is right....NOS hirschman or Bosch antennas are VERY different than the one you compare them too and DO bring prices he is asking. It's fine that you are not a buyer....go buy a $30 one. But don't derail his thread by slamming him for trying to reach interested buyers for such a product. We get it....you're not a buyer. You're not his audience but at least be respectful of his thread.

Steve

Posted by: euro911 Jul 6 2017, 07:09 PM

I've been in the Porsche game since the early 70's.

You're entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, thank you

Posted by: Mike Fitton Jul 7 2017, 06:41 AM

And you still don't know the difference between what Woody is selling on EBay and original. Maybe give Woody a call and he can fill you in on the differences. I have seen original antennas sell for more than the asking here. Commenting on someone's "for sale" thread about price is bad form, especially with no interest in buying.

Maybe start your own thread to complain about prices, like before.

Posted by: euro911 Jul 7 2017, 12:34 PM

When newbies show up and their only contribution to the forum is to post high-priced items in the classifieds, I raise an eyebrow and sometimes I post my opinion. I'm sure I'm not the only one who shares the feeling.

You've never added your opinion on someone's F/S thread, Mike? Don't be hypocritical, OK? Case in point: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=266107&st=0&p=2501105&#entry2501105

Maybe the OP would have better audience with the 356 and 911 crowds, and/or those who would mortgage their homes to restore their cars. Maybe you could buy it and post it for sale for double that next year

Posted by: bdstone914 Jul 7 2017, 01:06 PM

You might have better success on 911 forums where originality is highly valued. 914 radios were dealer installed in the U.S.

Posted by: Mike Fitton Jul 7 2017, 01:51 PM

Sorry this is so confusing for you to follow. My opinion on that thread was regarding current market prices for original Mahles like the seller had for sale. Your posts are comparing cheaply "Made in China" Hirschmann reproduction antennas to NOS original Hirschmann antenna prices. So if you have Woody's antennas on your cars they are the China made ones you can get for $25.

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 7 2017, 02:29 PM

The seller sells VERY nice original parts from Europe on the 911 forums all the time.

With a reaction like that, I doubt he will sell here anytime again soon.

Posted by: euro911 Jul 7 2017, 08:59 PM

I'm not confused at all. Posting your opinion about current market prices? ... please. You were still posting YOUR opinion that Greg's asking price was too much. It doesn't matter what the product is/was, what you did is fundamentally no different than what I did.

I think everybody realizes that 'market prices' are whatever one is willing to pay, so your rebuttal regarding Greg's wheels doesn't really hold water. (Take your time and think it through again)

I said good luck with the sale at least twice ... if that's not enough for you guys, so be it. Feel free to pay through the nose for those precious NOS parts.

Me? ... I'll bide my time and search for a better deal if I actually needed something like that. I'll bet most folks on this forum (as well as others) would do the same, but yes, I understand that there are other folks would give their eye teeth to own those kind of parts.

I'm done here - have an ice day.

Posted by: 914Next Jul 8 2017, 07:05 AM

Friendly bump. Looks like a good one at a market price. Thanks for offering to the 914World folks. Always nice to see increasingly rare NOS products on here. GLWTS.

Steve

Posted by: Niklas Jul 8 2017, 02:04 PM

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Hirschmann-BLACK-wing-Aerial-Antenna-770SW-0-to-35-Alfa-Ford-Saab-Toyota-VW-/171906146251?hash=item2806679fcb%3Ag%3AhHYAAOSw3ydV3El2&_trkparms=pageci%253A5486ea9a-6418-11e7-b9e6-74dbd180e7fa%257Cparentrq%253A23cb98af15d0aa1406dcdf91ffed7d92%257Ciid%253A16

Posted by: enoz05 Jul 8 2017, 03:34 PM

That's also a chinese reproduction, it have 5 masts, Originals have a 3-mast

Posted by: euro911 Jul 8 2017, 05:53 PM

Just want to ask the experts to educate some of us who "don't know much about Hirschmann antennas". From doing some research on the subject, Enoz05 was in the same learning mode a year ago (enlightening reads on the subject on the 911 Registry forum).

My 911 (German delivery with factory installed Blaupunkt Frankfurt radio, lautsprecher and antenne) is in storage so I can't verify right now, but my '66 912 has a Hirschmann with the black mast, 5 sections, black tip and gray quiver. I've owned the car since '88 and I bought it from the original owner. Were they made in China that long ago?

Did they also make 4-section mast antennas, as shown in the diagram that accompanies the 40 year old one? (I don't have the original documentation that came with mine).




Again, just trying to understand the differences ... am I going to get gigged for the 5-section mast when I drive it onto the grass?

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 8 2017, 08:53 PM

Mark, do you have a concours car? I never saw you as a concours weiner....

Posted by: euro911 Jul 8 2017, 09:04 PM

I concur

Posted by: arne Jul 9 2017, 10:06 AM

I'm far from being an expert, but I am pretty certain that back in the sixties the masts were all stainless, not black. I don't think black masts started showing up until the mid-70s. So I suspect yours may have been replaced at some point, Mark.

Posted by: euro911 Jul 9 2017, 12:30 PM

The original Blaupunkt in the '66 was replaced by the OO with a 70s era Pioneer cassette deck at some point , so that's very possible. Thank you Arne.

I'll have to dig out the 1" thick stack of documents that came with the car. Luckily, I do have a Frankfurt for it

My apologies to the OP ...

Posted by: Calvinator2016 Jul 13 2017, 03:16 PM

Not to reignite the debate, however I recently purchased a replacement antenna on Ebay for $23.00 as per the below picture.

It is a Hirschmann and definitely not a NOS product from the 1970's, but merely a modern day version and replacement model. The mast is indeed 3 stages and not in black. Just wanted to clarify with a photo to illustrate the differences.

Rock On!

Posted by: enoz05 Aug 11 2017, 02:42 PM

Bump for the NOS Hirschmann antenna

Posted by: enoz05 Nov 4 2017, 07:22 AM

For those who choose original parts above reproduction parts, this antenna is still available

Posted by: enoz05 Oct 22 2018, 12:35 AM

Still available

Posted by: boxstr Oct 23 2018, 07:45 AM

Craig at CAMP

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 23 2018, 07:56 AM

The placement diagram is interesting. Obviously, dealer installers tended to put them wherever they saw fit. More than a few placed on the pass side. The WETMWB rule applies.

Posted by: nomedulla Oct 25 2018, 06:36 PM

While it is not a 914, nor a 911, the aftermarket antennae from Dry Clean USA on my Thing/181 is of great quality and stands up to the elements... Plus it was included free with my purchase!
I have found that the 5 twist base allows better reception and stability than the 4 twist base.
Carry on.

Posted by: BuddyV Oct 27 2018, 09:58 PM

You have a '64 911??

Posted by: 914_7T3 Oct 27 2018, 10:32 PM

Find me a NOS Bosch Blue Tip Antenna and then we can talk!

Posted by: euro911 Oct 28 2018, 04:09 AM

Yes

Posted by: mepstein Oct 28 2018, 05:57 AM

232 club.

Posted by: euro911 Oct 28 2018, 04:00 PM

I'm also in the '2x32' club


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/8AglUMCKyns

Posted by: 914Next Oct 28 2018, 09:28 PM

I have one....

Posted by: 914_7T3 Oct 29 2018, 12:43 AM

I will PM you.

Posted by: enoz05 Nov 2 2018, 04:29 PM

http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?140522-FS-Bosch-Blue-Tip-Antenna-Antenna-key

Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 2 2018, 09:15 PM

Why are we giving this guy a hard time? He advertises over at the 911S Registry all the time with nice NOS or near parts.


That looks like a killer antenna.

I thought you weren't supposed to comment on ads.

Dang.

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 3 2018, 08:01 AM

We're NOT encouraged to comment IN ads? Seriously? WETMWB rule in effect. Others? Not so much.

Posted by: porbmw Nov 4 2018, 06:52 PM

And THAT is not an unfair price, seeing what a certain ebay Porsche vendor advertises his NOS blue tipped for....

I don't know why there is criticism re the item advertised. It is a fair price to a purchaser who is very particular about what he/she "needs" to put on his car, and a hefty price to someone who does not have "those needs".

Posted by: enoz05 Dec 12 2018, 02:04 AM

The NOS Hirschmann black mast antenna is sold, thanks