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Posted by: bbrock Nov 17 2017, 01:20 PM

[I'm editing this WTB based on Mark's comment.]

If anyone has a good 1973 harness for a reasonable price, I'd be interested. Otherwise, I'm going to start working through my nasty main harness over the winter. I'd love to get a chunk or two of an already trashed harness to have a selection of color coded wires for splicing in what rodents have carried off over the years. One foot lengths should be more than enough. I think anything longer than that will warrant sourcing new wire.

Posted by: mepstein Nov 17 2017, 02:06 PM

I would place a wtb for a harness. They are around from parted cars. I bought an early one in great shape for $75.

Posted by: bbrock Nov 17 2017, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 17 2017, 01:06 PM) *

I would place a wtb for a harness. They are around from parted cars. I bought an early one in great shape for $75.


Oh wow! I had no idea they could be found that cheap. Yeah, for that money, it would probably be worth it. Mine isn't in horrible shape, but it will take some time to put it right. And I'll probably spend at least $40 doing it.

Posted by: cary Nov 18 2017, 11:02 AM

From Matt's project.
I have a complete harness stripped out and each wire is rolled up and labeled.
It's not for sale, but if someone wants a length of a certain wire I'll have them available.

I need to get me one of those cool wire gauges Doug posted on a different thread.

Posted by: pat9146 Nov 18 2017, 12:40 PM

PM sent

Posted by: bbrock Nov 29 2017, 05:29 PM

I decided to restore the harness I have and am well into it. Below is a list of wire colors, sizes, and lengths I'd like to get from salvage. Ignore the meters column. Those are rounded up for ordering by the meter. I can source new wire for most (but not all) of the 18g colors. But I don't know how well it will match factory so prefer salvage. I have yet to find a source for 0.05mm/20g striped wire.

I'm sending a pm to Cary but any other leads are most appreciated. Somebody must have an old rat's nest of a harness out there that is beyond hope.

Thanks.

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Posted by: theer Nov 29 2017, 06:14 PM

I have a chunk-o-harness from a '72. I'll post a picture a little later. It ain't pretty, but if you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.

Posted by: bbrock Nov 29 2017, 06:16 PM

QUOTE(theer @ Nov 29 2017, 05:14 PM) *

I have a chunk-o-harness from a '72. I'll post a picture a little later. It ain't pretty, but if you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.

piratenanner.gif Sounds like it might be the ticket! Thanks.

Posted by: theer Nov 29 2017, 07:06 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Nov 29 2017, 07:16 PM) *

QUOTE(theer @ Nov 29 2017, 05:14 PM) *

I have a chunk-o-harness from a '72. I'll post a picture a little later. It ain't pretty, but if you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.

piratenanner.gif Sounds like it might be the ticket! Thanks.


Ok - here it is. This is the back end on the harness, it had melted together inside the tunnel, so this i cut this out and spliced in a good one. Looks to be complete all the way back to the taillights.

Let me know if this will work.

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Posted by: bbrock Nov 29 2017, 07:22 PM

QUOTE(theer @ Nov 29 2017, 06:06 PM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ Nov 29 2017, 07:16 PM) *

QUOTE(theer @ Nov 29 2017, 05:14 PM) *

I have a chunk-o-harness from a '72. I'll post a picture a little later. It ain't pretty, but if you want it, it's yours for the cost of shipping.

piratenanner.gif Sounds like it might be the ticket! Thanks.


Ok - here it is. This is the back end on the harness, it had melted together inside the tunnel, so this i cut this out and spliced in a good one. Looks to be complete all the way back to the taillights.

Let me know if this will work.

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Holy Moly! That's exactly the part that fried on mine and I'm trying to repair! I'll still need to source a few pieces of wire to repair some rodent damage on the headlight run, but the piece you have will take a major bite out of what I need. I'll pm you to work out details.


Posted by: theer Nov 29 2017, 07:34 PM

Sweet! Now I finally know why I've held on to this for 30 years.

Posted by: cary Nov 29 2017, 10:22 PM

Let me know what you need after you go over the section theer is sending you.

Posted by: bbrock Nov 30 2017, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(cary @ Nov 29 2017, 09:22 PM) *

Let me know what you need after you go over the section theer is sending you.

Will do! This dreaded part of my project seems to be coming together nicely. What a relief! beer.gif

Posted by: bbrock Dec 7 2017, 03:06 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Nov 29 2017, 09:22 PM) *

Let me know what you need after you go over the section theer is sending you.


Sent you a PM Cary. Theer's wires took care of about half of what I needed. Thanks Tom! I updated http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=319872&view=findpost&p=2553163.

Posted by: 76-914 Dec 7 2017, 04:13 PM

FWIW. you can add a black stripe to solid color wires by pulling the wire while holding the wire between your thumb and a black Marks-a-lot. Same with red. I haven't found a purple one yet so I add a black line to purple wire as a substitute. beerchug.gif

Posted by: cary Dec 7 2017, 04:13 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Dec 7 2017, 01:06 PM) *

QUOTE(cary @ Nov 29 2017, 09:22 PM) *

Let me know what you need after you go over the section theer is sending you.


Sent you a PM Cary. Theer's wires took care of about half of what I needed. Thanks Tom! I updated http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=319872&view=findpost&p=2553163.


I'll get down the wire box in the am and see what we can do.
I have portions of Doug's harness to break down too.

Short day. Oldest sons 30th birthday. Whoa.
Time flys.

Posted by: bbrock Dec 7 2017, 04:36 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Dec 7 2017, 03:13 PM) *

FWIW. you can add a black stripe to solid color wires by pulling the wire while holding the wire between your thumb and a black Marks-a-lot. Same with red. I haven't found a purple one yet so I add a black line to purple wire as a substitute. beerchug.gif


I wondered if that would work. Good to know that it does. thumb3d.gif I'm so anal, I'm even color matching the shrink wrap I'm putting over the splices and was going to try the marker to stripe them to match the wires as best I could. Then those purty wires will be buried under sleeving and harness wrap, but I'll always know how nice they look. screwy.gif

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 7 2017, 03:13 PM) *

I'll get down the wire box in the am and see what we can do.
I have portions of Doug's harness to break down too.

Short day. Oldest sons 30th birthday. Whoa.
Time flys.


Nice! A raised in Montana son, correct? Those that survive grow up tough! Have fun.

Posted by: cary Dec 8 2017, 12:34 PM

Are you looking for lengthwise, unless noted ?

Posted by: bbrock Dec 8 2017, 12:48 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 8 2017, 11:34 AM) *

Are you looking for lengthwise, unless noted ?


Hoping to match both length and diameter. I think all of the striped wires (maybe except gray/brown) only show up in the harness in one diameter. Same for the blue. So for any of those, if you can match color and length, it should be good. If you find two sizes of the gray/brown, it would be the larger one.

Everything else, I can easily order new. But if anyone has a scrap of black/red from an ignition harness, that would save me having to go to a different supplier for just that one little scrap.

Thanks for checking on this Cary!

Posted by: cary Dec 8 2017, 01:21 PM

Both these harnesses are early cars so no oil temp.

So green black will be spiral.
Green red is lengthwise. Cut off the 14 pin.
Red white is spiral. Cut off right above the white fan control wires.
Brown white is lengthwise. Cut off fan control section.
Black purple is spiral. Confirmed off 14 pin.

Grey Brown in lengthwise. Confirmed off 14 pin.
Had a bitch of a time finding Black red 16 spiral.

Posted by: bbrock Dec 8 2017, 01:43 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 8 2017, 12:21 PM) *

Both these harnesses are early cars so no oil temp.

So green black will be spiral.
Green red is lengthwise. Cut off the 14 pin.
Red white is spiral. Cut off right above the white fan control wires.
Brown white is lengthwise. Cut off fan control section.
Black purple is spiral. Confirmed off 14 pin.

Grey Brown in lengthwise. Confirmed off 14 pin.
Had a bitch of a time finding Black red 16 spiral.


Ah! I misunderstood your question. I'm not going to quibble over lengthwise vs. spiral. I think my red/white is spiral, but all of those would work. You did find black/red 16 spiral? Did not expect that. beer.gif

Posted by: cary Dec 8 2017, 03:05 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Dec 8 2017, 11:43 AM) *

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 8 2017, 12:21 PM) *

Both these harnesses are early cars so no oil temp.

So green black will be spiral.
Green red is lengthwise. Cut off the 14 pin.
Red white is spiral. Cut off right above the white fan control wires.
Brown white is lengthwise. Cut off fan control section.
Black purple is spiral. Confirmed off 14 pin.

Grey Brown in lengthwise. Confirmed off 14 pin.
Had a bitch of a time finding Black red 16 spiral.


Ah! I misunderstood your question. I'm not going to quibble over lengthwise vs. spiral. I think my red/white is spiral, but all of those would work. You did find black/red 16 spiral? Did not expect that. beer.gif


Yep on the black red.

Posted by: bbrock Dec 8 2017, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 8 2017, 02:05 PM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ Dec 8 2017, 11:43 AM) *

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 8 2017, 12:21 PM) *

Both these harnesses are early cars so no oil temp.

So green black will be spiral.
Green red is lengthwise. Cut off the 14 pin.
Red white is spiral. Cut off right above the white fan control wires.
Brown white is lengthwise. Cut off fan control section.
Black purple is spiral. Confirmed off 14 pin.

Grey Brown in lengthwise. Confirmed off 14 pin.
Had a bitch of a time finding Black red 16 spiral.


Ah! I misunderstood your question. I'm not going to quibble over lengthwise vs. spiral. I think my red/white is spiral, but all of those would work. You did find black/red 16 spiral? Did not expect that. beer.gif


Yep on the black red.


Nice! I'll PM you to work out the details.

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