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Posted by: Jett Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!

Posted by: bdstone914 Nov 18 2019, 11:19 PM

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM) *

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!


I have a small bucket of tested horns. Half were dead. I have heard they can be repaired but I have not tried it.
The HZ is usually heat stamped into the plastic base. 300 and 335 hz is I remember correctly. Not sure it makes a big deal. I think some late cars only had one horn.
The earliest horns has screw on front covers.

Posted by: Jett Nov 19 2019, 12:35 AM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Nov 18 2019, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM) *

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!


I have a small bucket of tested horns. Half were dead. I have heard they can be repaired but I have not tried it.
The HZ is usually heat stamped into the plastic base. 300 and 335 hz is I remember correctly. Not sure it makes a big deal. I think some late cars only had one horn.
The earliest horns has screw on front covers.


Thanks Bruce, I am not sure if the horn is stock because it is all metal, but manufactured by Hella.

I’ll add a picture tomorrow

Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 19 2019, 05:59 AM

Look on Ebay. All the Hella stuff is made in India. Since they are under the front pan, marking will be out of sign. No German horns in years.

Posted by: Jett Nov 19 2019, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Nov 19 2019, 03:59 AM) *

Look on Ebay. All the Hella stuff is made in India. Since they are under the front pan, marking will be out of sign. No German horns in years.

Nothing viable on eBay sad.gif

I am getting a lot of Spam smile.gif

Posted by: 914werke Nov 19 2019, 09:48 AM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Nov 18 2019, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM) *

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!


I have a small bucket of tested horns. Half were dead. I have heard they can be repaired but I have not tried it.
The HZ is usually heat stamped into the plastic base. 300 and 335 hz is I remember correctly. Not sure it makes a big deal. I think some late cars only had one horn.
The earliest horns has screw on front covers.

agree.gif I as well have a fair sized box of horns. 3 types Ive found on the cars over the years. The combination of the differing Hz horns make up the LOUD noise desired. On the back is a nut that is usually covered in potting material that is used to "tune" the horn to a specific frequency Either 335 or 400. So if you can only find the same (working) HZ horn as you have, you can adjust it.


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Posted by: Jett Nov 19 2019, 09:53 AM

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 07:48 AM) *

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Nov 18 2019, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM) *

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!


I have a small bucket of tested horns. Half were dead. I have heard they can be repaired but I have not tried it.
The HZ is usually heat stamped into the plastic base. 300 and 335 hz is I remember correctly. Not sure it makes a big deal. I think some late cars only had one horn.
The earliest horns has screw on front covers.

agree.gif I as well have a fair sized box of horns. 3 types Ive found on the cars over the years. The combination of the differing Hz horns make up the LOUD noise desired. On the back is a nut that is usually covered in potting material that is used to "tune" the horn to a specific frequency Either 335 or 400. So if you can only find the same (working) HZ horn as you have, you can adjust it.


Rich, the horns on the car appear after market and one is inoperable. Can I buy a working set from you? smile.gif I am getting use to visiting your house smile.gif

Posted by: johnhora Nov 19 2019, 11:12 AM

Jett...

check out these horns here for sale..

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=341766

Posted by: GaroldShaffer Nov 19 2019, 02:35 PM

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 09:48 AM) *

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Nov 18 2019, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM) *

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!


I have a small bucket of tested horns. Half were dead. I have heard they can be repaired but I have not tried it.
The HZ is usually heat stamped into the plastic base. 300 and 335 hz is I remember correctly. Not sure it makes a big deal. I think some late cars only had one horn.
The earliest horns has screw on front covers.

agree.gif I as well have a fair sized box of horns. 3 types Ive found on the cars over the years. The combination of the differing Hz horns make up the LOUD noise desired. On the back is a nut that is usually covered in potting material that is used to "tune" the horn to a specific frequency Either 335 or 400. So if you can only find the same (working) HZ horn as you have, you can adjust it.


Those are 70-74 style horns. The 75-76 style mount under the front pan have "horn" that faces forward like these. Not saying the older style won't work, but if you are going for original look then those are not correct.




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Posted by: 914werke Nov 19 2019, 02:38 PM

That's interesting. Ive never seen horns such as those fitted to any 914

Posted by: GaroldShaffer Nov 19 2019, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 02:38 PM) *

That's interesting. Ive never seen horns such as those fitted to any 914


only 75-76. Because of the big bumpers and the way they are mounted to the 75-76 cars there is no room for the horns. The older style horns will direct the sound downward hence the difference in the 75-76 style facing the sound forward.

Again not saying the older style work, a horn is a horn.

Posted by: drem914 Nov 19 2019, 03:39 PM

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 12:38 PM) *

That's interesting. Ive never seen horns such as those fitted to any 914


My '75 did not have directional horns like that and by all accounts everything was stock on my car before I got it in '84. the one on mine look like the round ones in the first pic posted.

Posted by: raynekat Nov 19 2019, 04:44 PM

I've got a set of horns from Germany (FER) 420 and 510 Hz.
$20 shipped to you in the Lower 48.

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Posted by: 914LIVE Nov 19 2019, 04:50 PM

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I have owned 10 Porsches (circa '75 & '76) and
have NEVER seen the "point forward" HORNS on
any of them.

As a matter of fact, I have never seen a "point
forward" HORN in my life, period.

Just saying !!!

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QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 19 2019, 02:44 PM) *

I've got a set of horns from Germany (FER) 420 and 510 Hz.
$20 shipped to you in the Lower 48.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 19 2019, 05:02 PM

These point down or to the side....you choose.

Posted by: racingredsc Nov 19 2019, 05:24 PM

What are the hard parts for?

QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 19 2019, 06:02 PM) *

These point down or to the side....you choose.


Posted by: GaroldShaffer Nov 19 2019, 06:07 PM

[quote name='914LIVE' date='Nov 19 2019, 04:50 PM' post='2763423']
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I have owned 10 Porsches (circa '75 & '76) and
have NEVER seen the "point forward" HORNS on
any of them.

As a matter of fact, I have never seen a "point
forward" HORN in my life, period.

Just saying !!!

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Fair enough, but every and I mean every 75 /76 I have parted (18 of them) had the exact same style horn as I posted. Maybe they were all replaced at one time confused24.gif
but all were mounted under the car, not behind the bumper.


Posted by: raynekat Nov 19 2019, 06:48 PM

QUOTE(racingredsc @ Nov 19 2019, 03:24 PM) *

What are the hard parts for?
QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 19 2019, 06:02 PM) *

These point down or to the side....you choose.




Those are 911 parts I have for sale on Early 911 S Registry.

Posted by: Jett Nov 20 2019, 12:09 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 19 2019, 02:44 PM) *

I've got a set of horns from Germany (FER) 420 and 510 Hz.
$20 shipped to you in the Lower 48.

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Thanks are these horns off a 911?

Posted by: Jett Nov 20 2019, 09:02 AM

QUOTE(GaroldShaffer @ Nov 19 2019, 12:35 PM) *

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 09:48 AM) *

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Nov 18 2019, 09:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 18 2019, 07:49 PM) *

We have one horn but the other is dead. We cannot tell the HZ of the existing horn, so we would like to buy a matching pair.

Thanks!


I have a small bucket of tested horns. Half were dead. I have heard they can be repaired but I have not tried it.
The HZ is usually heat stamped into the plastic base. 300 and 335 hz is I remember correctly. Not sure it makes a big deal. I think some late cars only had one horn.
The earliest horns has screw on front covers.

agree.gif I as well have a fair sized box of horns. 3 types Ive found on the cars over the years. The combination of the differing Hz horns make up the LOUD noise desired. On the back is a nut that is usually covered in potting material that is used to "tune" the horn to a specific frequency Either 335 or 400. So if you can only find the same (working) HZ horn as you have, you can adjust it.


Those are 70-74 style horns. The 75-76 style mount under the front pan have "horn" that faces forward like these. Not saying the older style won't work, but if you are going for original look then those are not correct.


Do you have a set for sale?

Posted by: Jett Nov 20 2019, 10:28 AM

My friend and mechanic thinks that the 75 horns are all metal and point down... these were the exact type of horns we pulled off the car but one does not work.

Here is a picture he provided this morning...

We need a concourse judge to help smile.gif




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Posted by: 914LIVE Nov 20 2019, 10:55 AM


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Metal and slim. Smaller than the early '73 - '74 metal horns.
Slim so they do not scrape as they are one of the lowest
objects under the front end.

The plastic "point forward" would NOT last a day.

My two cents.

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quote name='Jett' date='Nov 20 2019, 08:28 AM' post='2763647']
My friend and mechanic thinks that the 75 horns are all metal and point down... these were the exact type of horns we pulled off the car but one does not work.

Here is a picture he provided this morning...

We need a concourse judge to help smile.gif
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Posted by: Jett Nov 20 2019, 02:36 PM

Thanks everyone. It was a great debate and I learned a lot.


[quote name='914LIVE' date='Nov 20 2019, 08:55 AM' post='2763657']
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Metal and slim. Smaller than the early '73 - '74 metal horns.
Slim so they do not scrape as they are one of the lowest
objects under the front end.

The plastic "point forward" would NOT last a day.

My two cents.

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quote name='Jett' date='Nov 20 2019, 08:28 AM' post='2763647']
My friend and mechanic thinks that the 75 horns are all metal and point down... these were the exact type of horns we pulled off the car but one does not work.

Here is a picture he provided this morning...

We need a concourse judge to help smile.gif
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Posted by: Jett Nov 21 2019, 10:59 AM

914Live has a pair that I bought... hoping they arrive soon smile.gif as this could be the last part for the build smile.gif

Posted by: 914LIVE Nov 21 2019, 02:23 PM


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914LIVE sent them north "Priority Mail".

Enjoy !!!

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uote name='Jett' date='Nov 21 2019, 08:59 AM' post='2763938']
914Live has a pair that I bought... hoping they arrive soon smile.gif as this could be the last part for the build smile.gif
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Posted by: type47fan Nov 21 2019, 02:35 PM

QUOTE(GaroldShaffer @ Nov 19 2019, 01:52 PM) *

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 02:38 PM) *

That's interesting. Ive never seen horns such as those fitted to any 914


only 75-76. Because of the big bumpers and the way they are mounted to the 75-76 cars there is no room for the horns. The older style horns will direct the sound downward hence the difference in the 75-76 style facing the sound forward.

Again not saying the older style work, a horn is a horn.



Here's a picture of my driver's side horn from my late '76, #3947. The passenger side is also round. Note the original undercoating on the mounting nut.

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Posted by: 914LIVE Nov 21 2019, 03:09 PM

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Same exact horn pairs are heading north.

Long live 914s !!!

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quote name='type47fan' date='Nov 21 2019, 12:35 PM' post='2763988']
[quote name='GaroldShaffer' post='2763387' date='Nov 19 2019, 01:52 PM']
[quote name='914werke' post='2763384' date='Nov 19 2019, 02:38 PM']
That's interesting. Ive never seen horns such as those fitted to any 914
[/quote]

only 75-76. Because of the big bumpers and the way they are mounted to the 75-76 cars there is no room for the horns. The older style horns will direct the sound downward hence the difference in the 75-76 style facing the sound forward.

Again not saying the older style work, a horn is a horn.
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Here's a picture of my driver's side horn from my late '76, #3947. The passenger side is also round. Note the original undercoating on the mounting nut.

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Posted by: Jett Nov 21 2019, 07:35 PM

QUOTE(type47fan @ Nov 21 2019, 12:35 PM) *

QUOTE(GaroldShaffer @ Nov 19 2019, 01:52 PM) *

QUOTE(914werke @ Nov 19 2019, 02:38 PM) *

That's interesting. Ive never seen horns such as those fitted to any 914


only 75-76. Because of the big bumpers and the way they are mounted to the 75-76 cars there is no room for the horns. The older style horns will direct the sound downward hence the difference in the 75-76 style facing the sound forward.

Again not saying the older style work, a horn is a horn.



Here's a picture of my driver's side horn from my late '76, #3947. The passenger side is also round. Note the original undercoating on the mounting nut.

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Thanks, these are what came iff the car smile.gif

Any guesses on why some cars have only one?

Posted by: Jett Nov 21 2019, 07:43 PM

QUOTE(914LIVE @ Nov 21 2019, 01:09 PM) *

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Same exact horn pairs are heading north.

Long live 914s !!!

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Thanks! Will send pics of them installed.

Posted by: DickSteinkamp Nov 21 2019, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(Jett @ Nov 21 2019, 05:35 PM) *



Any guesses on why some cars have only one?


My 76 only has one. Driver's side. Identical to the one pictured just above. No provisions for a passenger side horn. No wiring for one.

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Nov 21 2019, 10:33 PM

From the info I have seen, a single horn was stock on all 914s. Dual horns were stock on the 914/6 and optional equipment as part of the Appearance Group [Comfort Equipment] on all other 914s. They were also available separately ordered optional equipment as M-572. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/OpEq.htm

Posted by: Jett Nov 21 2019, 10:48 PM

QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Nov 21 2019, 08:33 PM) *

From the info I have seen, a single horn was stock on all 914s. Dual horns were stock on the 914/6 and optional equipment as part of the Appearance Group [Comfort Equipment] on all other 914s. They were also available separately ordered optional equipment as M-572. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/OpEq.htm

smile.gif our 73 and 75 cars have the Appearance package (AP).

The 76 for sale on Sotheby's site looks like it has the AP components but one horn. confused24.gif

Posted by: Jett Nov 23 2019, 07:37 PM

914LIVE — Thanks for the clips and horns!


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Posted by: Jett Nov 24 2019, 01:42 PM

After a couple of hours of cleaning and polishing... Love the washers that denote the Hz smile.gif


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