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Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 5 2020, 09:46 PM

I am looking a few valet lock wafers I believe they are # 5 wafer

PM me if you have any.

Thanks

Steve

Posted by: euro911 Jan 5 2020, 11:17 PM

Contact Dan ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=15579 ) ... he's our resident locksmith.

Posted by: mb911 Jan 6 2020, 06:03 AM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Jan 5 2020, 09:17 PM) *

Contact Dan ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=15579 ) ... he's our resident locksmith.



I would not contact Dan.

There are a bunch of threads about him lately and how he is not delivered after payment.. Pelicanparts also has a thread about him running.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jan 6 2020, 06:50 AM

914 Rubber talked about making them. Not sure where that has gone.

Posted by: GregAmy Jan 6 2020, 07:11 AM

OK, I'll bite: what are they?

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 6 2020, 09:46 AM

I will not be contacting Dan. He already has my original trunk lock with a master key.
I paid him for his lock service back in April of 2019.

I recently acquired a replacement lock and now I re-keyed it myself. I have successfully re-keyed the lock to accept both a master and valet key. I have since learned the last wafer should have been a "valet wafer" this prevents the valet key from accessing the trunk (the same as the glove box)


http://www.914world.com/specs/rekey.php

I have added a picture of the "valet wafer" as seen in a post about rekeying a lock by MarkB here on the forum. The "valet wafer" has a step as you can see in the picture, the last wafer on the right


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Posted by: Rob-O Jan 6 2020, 09:51 AM

I sent Mark some wafers awhile back. There may be some valet wafers in the package I sent him. If he’s done with his project he may be able to help out.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10825

Posted by: GregAmy Jan 6 2020, 10:00 AM

QUOTE(stevie 77 930 @ Jan 6 2020, 10:46 AM) *
...the last wafer should have been a "valet wafer" this prevents the valet key from accessing the trunk (the same as the glove box)


Thanks!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 6 2020, 12:29 PM

QUOTE(Rob-O @ Jan 6 2020, 10:51 AM) *

I sent Mark some wafers awhile back. There may be some valet wafers in the package I sent him. If he’s done with his project he may be able to help out.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10825

I’ll take a look tomorrow.

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 6 2020, 01:10 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 6 2020, 10:29 AM) *

QUOTE(Rob-O @ Jan 6 2020, 10:51 AM) *

I sent Mark some wafers awhile back. There may be some valet wafers in the package I sent him. If he’s done with his project he may be able to help out.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10825

I’ll take a look tomorrow.


Thank you Mark

Posted by: euro911 Jan 6 2020, 02:24 PM

Wow. I hadn't hear about Dan turning sour on folks. Just noticed he hasn't been active here since last summer WTF.gif

Posted by: johnhora Jan 6 2020, 02:54 PM

Steve...how many do you need?...John

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 6 2020, 04:13 PM

John,
just 2

Thanks

Posted by: bdstone914 Jan 7 2020, 08:54 AM

@stevie 77 930 date='Jan 6 2020, 04:13 PM' post='2775205']
John,
just 2

Thanks
[/quote]

I have some lock cylinders. Never knew about the valet water. Can check them later.
Bruce

Posted by: bdstone914 Jan 7 2020, 08:55 AM

@stevie 77 930 date='Jan 6 2020, 04:13 PM' post='2775205']
John,
just 2

Thanks
[/quote]

I have some lock cylinders. Never knew about the valet water. Can check them later.
Bruce

Posted by: dax1969 Jan 7 2020, 09:23 AM

I went to the local VW garage and they had plenty in the garbagebin biggrin.gif
Paid nothing, the meccanic had no clue why I needed them.

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 7 2020, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(dax1969 @ Jan 7 2020, 07:23 AM) *

I went to the local VW garage and they had plenty in the garbagebin biggrin.gif
Paid nothing, the meccanic had no clue why I needed them.



You guys are awesome

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 7 2020, 09:40 AM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Jan 7 2020, 06:55 AM) *

@stevie 77 930 date='Jan 6 2020, 04:13 PM' post='2775205']
John,
just 2

Thanks


I have some lock cylinders. Never knew about the valet water. Can check them later.
Bruce


Thanks Bruce

We all knew about the valet key, just wasn't sure how it was actually keyed in the cylinder. The master and valet are cut the same...its the blade profile that is different

Posted by: johnhora Jan 7 2020, 02:57 PM

Steve...PM me your mailing address and I'll send you a couple...John

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 7 2020, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(johnhora @ Jan 7 2020, 12:57 PM) *

Steve...PM me your mailing address and I'll send you a couple...John



Awesome ! Thank you John. PM sent

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 15 2020, 10:18 AM

QUOTE(johnhora @ Jan 7 2020, 12:57 PM) *

Steve...PM me your mailing address and I'll send you a couple...John



Just a follow up to my trunk lock. A big THANK YOU to John for sending a couple of these "lock wafers"


I had a master key cut tracing the valet key at a local hardware store so once I had the wafers , it was time re-key the lock.

The end result is i now have a correctly functioning master key and valet key

You can visible see the step
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Wafers releasing
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I had to try a few different slots, once I got the right one the Master key grabs all of the wafers...nice and flush
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Valet Key inserted and you can see how it does not grab the "valet wafer"
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I decided to use the URO rear lock as my Ebay replacement was pretty beat up
This is a very nice and reproduction
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Lastly, was reassembly and reinstall into the car
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Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 15 2020, 10:28 AM

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Posted by: FlacaProductions Jan 15 2020, 11:20 AM

Nicely done - since you've been in there, I wonder if you can provide some input on my situation. I had a new key cut and it works in all situations (locks and ignition) only when facing one way. Flip it over, no joy. it's strange since they are symmetrical, correct? Other keys work both ways...

Thoughts?

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 15 2020, 11:27 AM

[quote name='FlacaProductions' date='Jan 15 2020, 09:20 AM' post='2777638']
Nicely done - since you've been in there, I wonder if you can provide some input on my situation. I had a new key cut and it works in all situations (locks and ignition) only when facing one way. Flip it over, no joy. it's strange since they are symmetrical, correct? Other keys work both ways...

Thoughts?


I can only guess (as I don't proclaim any expertise) the key is not symmetrical or the cuts were not made correctly.

Posted by: PCH Jan 15 2020, 11:38 AM

Can the valet wafer go in any slot?

Posted by: stevie 77 930 Jan 15 2020, 11:47 AM

QUOTE(PCH @ Jan 15 2020, 09:38 AM) *

Can the valet wafer go in any slot?



"I had to try a few different slots, once I got the right one the Master key grabs all of the wafers...nice and flush"

Posted by: PCH Jan 17 2020, 04:52 PM

QUOTE(stevie 77 930 @ Jan 15 2020, 09:47 AM) *

QUOTE(PCH @ Jan 15 2020, 09:38 AM) *

Can the valet wafer go in any slot?



"I had to try a few different slots, once I got the right one the Master key grabs all of the wafers...nice and flush"



Thank you

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