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Posted by: ptravnic Jan 6 2020, 10:46 AM

My 73 orange 914 was recently restored by Brad Mayeur in Peoria, IL (I'm located in Chicago) where the only thing that wasn't replaced/reconditioned was the 2056cc engine that I rebuilt myself. I've come to terms with the fact that I'm a terrible engine rebuilder post-2-1117899824.gif and have a couple of busted pistons and an expensive paperweight now on my hands. Hence, I will be procuring a replacement. Something like what Jake/McMark collaborated on years ago would likely do the trick.

Who's got lines on a 2056 (or maybe even a 2270) that can be as close to plug and play as possible? Note, Brad will be doing the swapping but I'm looking to source a suitable replacement engine.

Thanks in advance!

-pt


Posted by: JOEPROPER Jan 6 2020, 11:19 AM

there was a Raby engine for sale here a few days ago. From Oregon I think...
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22240
I think that was the seller, but may not be spelled correctly.

Posted by: ptravnic Jan 6 2020, 11:45 AM

QUOTE(JOEPROPER @ Jan 6 2020, 11:19 AM) *

there was a Raby engine for sale here a few days ago. From Oregon I think...
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22240
I think that was the seller, but may not be spelled correctly.


Thanks - that seller PM'd me a few mins ago. Much appreciated!

-pt

Posted by: ptravnic Feb 5 2020, 07:02 PM

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still in the market for the elusive replacement engine...

Posted by: gman3850 Feb 5 2020, 07:42 PM

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2342043

needs to be put together but looks like a decent price

Posted by: 9144me2enjoy Feb 6 2020, 10:00 AM

I saw this engine on CL out of Portland. This is a engine builder. No affiliation. His posted email address is f5d23b7d82333800a7983d925fd84222@sale.craigslist.org


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Posted by: Tdskip Feb 6 2020, 10:22 AM

Why not ring one of the builders here or Vince?

Posted by: 9144me2enjoy Feb 6 2020, 10:31 AM

That would make a whole lot more sense! agree.gif

Posted by: Al Meredith Feb 6 2020, 05:13 PM

I've built 2056 engines for myself and for others for years and would be happy to do one for you . The freight may not make it practical. When you install a cam it is necessary to perform cam geometry and that is costly. Most of the engines I build come to $5000 +/- Al .

Posted by: KevinW Feb 6 2020, 05:39 PM

I saw this add on Samba. No affiliation


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Posted by: JOEPROPER Feb 6 2020, 07:45 PM

You're not that far from Original Customs. I'd look him up if I were you.

Posted by: ptravnic Feb 8 2020, 12:11 PM

QUOTE(JOEPROPER @ Feb 6 2020, 08:45 PM) *

You're not that far from Original Customs. I'd look him up if I were you.


Have tried reaching Mark and haven't had much success. I'm guessing he's busy with other things but only a guess.

-pt

Posted by: rbzymek Feb 8 2020, 08:14 PM

I would also suggest a SCAT 2056 long block ($3536) like I purchased last year. I requested 8.5 CR, WEB 73 cam, 40x38 valves on which I re-used my L-Jet FI from the old 1.8. I put on over 1000 miles and it runs great. It also sounds good with a Triad muffler. Next up is a larger (50mm) throttle body from a 2.1 Vanagon.

Posted by: 913B Feb 8 2020, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(rbzymek @ Feb 8 2020, 09:14 PM) *

I would also suggest a SCAT 2056 long block ($3536) like I purchased last year. I requested 8.5 CR, WEB 73 cam, 40x38 valves on which I re-used my L-Jet FI from the old 1.8. I put on over 1000 miles and it runs great. It also sounds good with a Triad muffler. Next up is a larger (50mm) throttle body from a 2.1 Vanagon.


That's a good price. There site says assembled "yes" but sold as a kit? I couldn't find their warranty if any? Any regrets about your purchase.

Thanks

Posted by: rbzymek Feb 8 2020, 09:52 PM

No, it's an assembled long block, not a kit. The Summit Racing site shows a 2056 SCAT long block kit for about $200 cheaper but I would prefer that someone else perform the work and keep it from leaking. I looked at my invoice and it actually has 42x38 valves. The warranty is one year and no core is requested. I had a major overheat on the 1.8L so the long block route was the best way to get back on the road quickly. I was disappointed that they could not advise whether to vent or plug the heads. (914word reseach: plug to keep oil from collecting in the valve covers)

It runs fine and so far no regrets.

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Feb 9 2020, 08:16 AM

My luck with used engines has been hit and miss.

Posted by: rbzymek Feb 9 2020, 11:44 AM

QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Feb 9 2020, 09:16 AM) *

My luck with used engines has been hit and miss.


Perry,
Can you elaborate on what you consider a used engine? There are no new cases, only P's & C's, rods and newly cast heads. Not sure about new cranks.

Do you mean "used" as in not rebuilt?
Regards,
Ray

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 9 2020, 11:46 AM

I’d assume “used” equals someone else’s engine that has not been fully rebuilt.

Posted by: yostcorners Feb 13 2020, 09:54 AM

Hello PT. I have a complete drivetrain for a 1975 2.0. Please message me for full description if you are interested. Thanks, Jon. (404 838 7444).Attached Image

Posted by: Tdskip Feb 13 2020, 09:56 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22957

As with other post forum policy here is prices are required.

Posted by: yostcorners Feb 13 2020, 11:01 AM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Feb 13 2020, 10:56 AM) *

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22957

As with other post forum policy here is prices are required.

This drivetrain came out of a restoration project. It has less than 100 miles on it. It has been in storage for approx. 10 years. The owner drove it to my shop in 2016, and it last ran in Feb. 2019. It is totally complete: side-shift trans., complete exhaust system, fuel injection, sheet metal, engine and trans. mounts, shift linkage etc....... $6000 OBO.

Posted by: yostcorners Feb 13 2020, 11:12 AM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Feb 13 2020, 10:56 AM) *

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22957

As with other post forum policy here is prices are required.

This drivetrain came out of a restoration project. It has less than 100 miles on it. It has been in storage for approx. 10 years. The owner drove it to my shop in 2016, and it last ran in Feb. 2019. It is totally complete: side-shift trans., complete exhaust system, fuel injection, sheet metal, engine and trans. mounts, shift linkage etc....... $6000 OBO.

Posted by: ptravnic Feb 14 2020, 11:18 AM

Thanks for reaching out @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22957 .

I think the set up that you have seems solid. Unfortunately though I have a Tangerine racing exhaust with minimal use and a recently rebuilt transmission so I wouldn't need about half of what you already have. It probably makes the most sense to keep all of what you have together rather than split it up.

Posted by: yostcorners Feb 14 2020, 02:12 PM

QUOTE(ptravnic @ Feb 14 2020, 12:18 PM) *

Thanks for reaching out @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22957 .

I think the set up that you have seems solid. Unfortunately though I have a Tangerine racing exhaust with minimal use and a recently rebuilt transmission so I wouldn't need about half of what you already have. It probably makes the most sense to keep all of what you have together rather than split it up.

Thanks

Posted by: jagalyn Feb 14 2020, 03:12 PM

QUOTE(yostcorners @ Feb 13 2020, 09:12 AM) *
This drivetrain came out of a restoration project. It has less than 100 miles on it. It has been in storage for approx. 10 years. The owner drove it to my shop in 2016, and it last ran in Feb. 2019. It is totally complete: side-shift trans., complete exhaust system, fuel injection, sheet metal, engine and trans. mounts, shift linkage etc....... $6000 OBO.


What is 'Turn Key' worth... Kind of a plug and play option.

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