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Posted by: rbzymek Aug 7 2020, 06:46 PM
The oil temperature is on my 2056 is getting very close to the red zone with even moderate driving on an 80 degree day. I plan to use a Sandwich oil filter adapter type system.
The parts I prefer are:
Derale Atomic Cool DER-15950 Plate and Fan
along with
Derale Temperature controlled Sandwich Adapter DER-15702
What do you have in your spares pile?
Thanks in advance,
Ray
Posted by: Dominic Aug 8 2020, 10:25 AM
The oil temperature is on my 2056 is getting very close to the red zone with even moderate driving on an 80 degree day. I plan to use a Sandwich oil filter adapter type system.
The parts I prefer are:
Derale Atomic Cool DER-15950 Plate and Fan
along with
Derale Temperature controlled Sandwich Adapter DER-15702
What do you have in your spares pile?
Thanks in advance,
Ray
Ray,
Before you spend any $$ on an external oil cooler, make sure the outlets on the bottom of the fan shroud are not blocked (there are little aluminum flappers in there that can be stuck in the closed position), this can cause high oil temps as you are not getting the proper amount of air to flow through the stock oil cooler. Also need to ensure that the cooling flaps that direct air to the oil cooler are operating properly.
I learned this many years ago with a 2.0L that we owned.
Hope this helps,
Dominic
Posted by: barefoot Aug 8 2020, 11:25 AM
I'm with Dominic, moderate driving in 80 deg days should not put you in oil temperature purgatory , look at your thermostat operation first.
Barefoot
Posted by: rbzymek Aug 8 2020, 11:45 AM
It is my assumption that the aluminum flap valves allow air into the SSHE’s. If the blower is active they keep the flow through the heating system and not into the cooling housing. I replaced the thermostat when I installed the 2056 long block. I will check to make sure it is working. Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted by: nditiz1 Aug 8 2020, 11:47 AM
Do you have a CHT installed? My 2.0 would do this and it lead to a poor leakdown causing these hot temps. Might want to ensure the health of the engine first.
Posted by: Montreal914 Aug 8 2020, 11:48 AM
I believe the OP has a 2056. This is not a stock 2l... Oil temperature could go up.
Posted by: barefoot Aug 9 2020, 07:27 AM
I believe the OP has a 2056. This is not a stock 2l... Oil temperature could go up.
A 2056 is a very small change from stock 2L.
My 2056 with carbs & cam with 8.5 to 1 CR oil temps never get above mid point on temp gauge with 95Deg outside temps.
Posted by: ottox914 Aug 9 2020, 08:40 AM
I got the parts for my oil cooler install from summit racing. Perhaps they have what you seek.
Posted by: Al Meredith Aug 9 2020, 10:55 AM
I have a 2056 with carbs and a stock oil cooler in a 912E (heaver than a 914) and it Ok in Hot Atlanta
Posted by: rbzymek Aug 9 2020, 01:49 PM
So I checked the thermostat and it appears to be working as designed.
Here it is cold.
Here it is hot.
'
I also checked the timing and it was about 20 Deg BTDT instead of 28 Deg BTDC due to point wear. (Need to install the Petronix on the shelf.) Reset the timing ans saw no temp improvement.
I still cruise at 55 in 5th and see the following on the gauge:
If I get on it I can push it to the red zone on a 80 degree day. I still need to make sure I have the correct sender. I still have the original 1.8 engine so I can use the old sender if needed.
If the sender is correct I think I need an oil cooler so still looking for parts in case it goes that way.
Posted by: rbzymek Aug 10 2020, 08:56 AM
So I checked the thermostat and it appears to be working as designed.
Here it is cold.
Here it is hot.
'
I also checked the timing and it was about 20 Deg BTDT instead of 28 Deg BTDC due to point wear. (Need to install the Petronix on the shelf.) Reset the timing ans saw no temp improvement.
I still cruise at 55 in 5th and see the following on the gauge:
If I get on it I can push it to the red zone on a 80 degree day. I still need to make sure I have the correct sender. I still have the original 1.8 engine so I can use the old sender if needed.
If the sender is correct I think I need an oil cooler so still looking for parts in case it goes that way.
Still looking for oil cooler parts.......
Posted by: barefoot Aug 10 2020, 01:49 PM
I still cruise at 55 in 5th and see the following on the gauge:
If I get on it I can push it to the red zone on a 80 degree day. I still need to make sure I have the correct sender. I still have the original 1.8 engine so I can use the old sender if needed.
If the sender is correct I think I need an oil cooler so still looking for parts in case it goes that way.
The 75-76 without center console used a temp gauge built into the combo gage. the red zone is way further right. That's my gauge and indicator never gets past mid point. Pretty sure I've got the correct sender.
Posted by: rbzymek Aug 13 2020, 06:42 PM
Cancel WTB. I bought the parts from Summit.
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