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Posted by: budman5201 Oct 14 2009, 07:31 PM
I just raced a new boxster and blew him out of the water on the 101 freeway(4 lane dead quiet) last night......looked down and 132 mph on my speedo. Holy SHHH****. That has to be the fastest that i have ever been. 
SO guys I only have 252 hp (ej20 subie td05 turbo), whats the fastest someone has been in their stock or modified 914?
Dyno video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HCGkJcaA_c
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Posted by: SGB Oct 14 2009, 07:47 PM
SO guys I only have 252 hp...
Only a 1.7, eh?
Posted by: RJMII Oct 14 2009, 08:07 PM
I"ve had mine up to 90... but it only took 6 seconds to get there. 
Posted by: jimkelly Oct 14 2009, 08:25 PM
you selling??
how are your emissions??
jim
Posted by: URY914 Oct 14 2009, 08:30 PM
Some may say that 132 mph is a wee bit too fast for a public street.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Oct 14 2009, 08:47 PM
Some say that 132 mph is a wee bit too fast for a public street.
But all we know is that they call him The Stig!
Zach
Posted by: SLITS Oct 14 2009, 08:56 PM
126 in a stock /4 measured by GPS.
Posted by: Gint Oct 14 2009, 08:59 PM
105-ish in my 2056 zambeziteen. And that was fast enough in a 914.
Posted by: sww914 Oct 14 2009, 09:05 PM
138, turn 8 at Willow Springs. RPM's topped out at 7500 with an X 5th gear. I wouldn't want to go any faster with this size of tires through that corner, it creeps around a lot at that speed.
The engine's a carbed 2056 with bigger or lighter everything.
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 14 2009, 09:07 PM
My speedo doesn't read right but according to it I was going 140ish. I would bet that is around 125 or so.
Posted by: tracks914 Oct 14 2009, 09:16 PM
108 (on speedo) in my 1.7, once. Haven't had it above 70 since. Street racing laws are too steep up here.
I did do 140 on a friends R1 a few weeks ago.(3rd gear half throttle and only 8500rpm out of 14,000rpm.) [he says the bike will do 138mph in second gear at 14,000. with a top speed of 188mph]
Give me a week with that bike and I'd love to see if I could hit the 300km/h or 188mph mark.
Posted by: iamchappy Oct 14 2009, 09:16 PM
I think Bill told me in his LS6 monster he had it north of 165 with the 930 transmission, I could be wrong he may of said 185 
Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Oct 14 2009, 09:25 PM
Had my stock 2.0 to 95 on a nice flat, straight country road where I live. Nothing but cows and Peacocks. Yes, Peacocks! A guy up the road from me raises them. there all over the damn place around here!
Posted by: iamchappy Oct 14 2009, 09:44 PM
I never have looked at the speedo when hitting 6800 redline in 5th with a Z gear for the final drive, i've only looked after i have hit the brakes and already started slowing down and then it was around 120.
Posted by: carr914 Oct 14 2009, 09:50 PM
According to J.C. France, I was doing 190, but he was all Coked up, so what does he know.
Posted by: budman5201 Oct 14 2009, 09:58 PM
Haha, Nope Jim not selling. What would i do with all my time then? Always something to work on. 
love it.
Holy cow, 138 through a turn??? I couldnt imagine that. Reality hit, after i slowed down. I couldnt imagine a wreck or even someone turning into my lane. That would be death I am sure! Unless it was at the Flats where i have about half a mile to lose control and not hit anything.
Posted by: sww914 Oct 14 2009, 10:18 PM
Here's a good video of Bill Bodine (yes, those Bodines) at Willow. Turn 8 is at the bottom of the hill where he passes the black 914.
Watch the white 911 at the end of turn 2- OOPS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7kKRDTPKI
It takes a while to learn to not lift in that corner, everything tells you that you're going too fast.
Posted by: nsr-jamie Oct 14 2009, 10:27 PM
my best top speed in my 1.7 was 110 MPH downhill with the top off and that was kindy of scary considering I have gone a lot faster than that on motorcycles.
Posted by: orange914 Oct 14 2009, 10:28 PM
Had my stock 2.0 to 95 on a nice flat, straight country road where I live. Nothing but cows and Peacocks. Yes, Peacocks! A guy up the road from me raises them. there all over the damn place around here!
i've only had the experiance of hitting a chicken at high speed, i can't imagine the colorful display a peacock would do
Posted by: bandjoey Oct 14 2009, 10:34 PM
Ok you all have the right to remain silent...OOPPS>>>you already forgot to do that! 
125 in a stock '70 - 914-6
Posted by: BMXerror Oct 14 2009, 10:35 PM
Some say that 132 mph is a wee bit too fast for a public street.
But all we know is that they call him The Stig!
Zach
OMG... Am I the only one that got that? 
Mark D.
Posted by: Cupomeat Oct 14 2009, 11:12 PM
Nope, I bet a lot of the people here have seen Top Gear.
As for my top speed, I once got my 1.8 75 up to 120 indicated, but it was on a good downhill stretch. Otherwise, she won't go faster than 105.
Posted by: campbellcj Oct 14 2009, 11:21 PM
My car is gearing limited to the low 130's, depending which wheels/tires are on. I have hit that a number of times, at the track of course.
Posted by: Sleepin Oct 15 2009, 12:01 AM
I had 104 on my GPS in the stock 1.8 on a long downhill straight coming back from Route 66 '09 (trying to shake the sand out). oops...I mean on a track somewhere... 
Pretty amazing if you look at going that speed in any other 70's car. The 914 still feels solid and straight....a little light in the front end though.
Posted by: byndbad914 Oct 15 2009, 12:33 AM
I think Bill told me in his LS6 monster he had it north of 165 with the 930 transmission, I could be wrong he may of said 185
yeah, he had been up in the 170s at a track near him, I have been about 160-ish when I lived in SoCal on the front stretch of Willow Springs, a bit less thru T8, around 140-ish (speeds were calc'd based on tire diam, engine rpm, so forth which is why I say -ish) but I didn't have the wing before I moved. With a wing I expected more around 155-160 in T8, Roger Sheridan is around 155 going into T9.
I think it was Brainerd with Bill - I have considered trailering there or Miller in Utah (closer) for the really long stretch, but last winter changed the gearbox to lowering gearing where I will top out at 155mph with the large diam rears, the 930 box I didn't shift to 4th until 140mph
Posted by: john rogers Oct 15 2009, 12:39 AM
My race car did 138 at the CA Speedway by GPS which was a Garmin bouncing around behind my seat. That was 8000 RPM with a "V" 5th gear and a 2.2L six coming out of NASCAR turn 2 and it scared the hell out me 'cause you have to brake shortly for the turn 3 left hander! If I remember I was hot on the heels of Topper Chassie in his 914?!
Posted by: messix Oct 15 2009, 01:03 AM
gps'd at 100 and still accelerating chasing down mikies six and dave raby monster on the flat on the mount baker run, just before we were three wide on a two lane.
[i wish there were photo evidence .... or maybe not!]
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 15 2009, 01:24 AM
Some say that 132 mph is a wee bit too fast for a public street.
But all we know is that they call him The Stig!
Zach
OMG... Am I the only one that got that? Mark D.
I think most of us got that
Posted by: messix Oct 15 2009, 01:33 AM
Some say that 132 mph is a wee bit too fast for a public street.
But all we know is that they call him The Stig!
Zach
OMG... Am I the only one that got that? Mark D.
I think most of us got that
yup me too!
Posted by: Todd Enlund Oct 15 2009, 01:45 AM
I got mine up to 45 one day... but it was on a trailer.
Posted by: jt914-6 Oct 15 2009, 06:58 AM
My max speed on the track with newly built conversion six 3.0......131mph. GPS used. Speedo said 140+, but we all know changing tire/wheel size from stock throws it off. Probably had about the same top speed at Road Atlanta in the past...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrBF96dT6uk
Posted by: TravisG Oct 15 2009, 07:39 AM
A little new to this, but I got to 112 with about 1500 rpms left to go (stock speedo), run out of road, had to start braking. The car felt tight and glued to the ground.
2.0 with euro pistons and dual weber 40 idfs.
Some Say....... I got it to. Monday nights BBC America 
Posted by: Cupomeat Oct 15 2009, 08:31 AM
On the non-914 front, I saw 145 at Pocono in my 993 (in the rain, backstraight into the bowl) and 140 somewhere else in my Corrado SLC.
After the 145 at Pocono I really started to rethink about improving the safety equipment on my 993 as your mortality become VERY clear. Probably not as clear as it would be on a public road, but very clear...
Posted by: turboman808 Oct 15 2009, 08:42 AM
I have never gone above 60. You guys are maniacs!
Posted by: 6freak Oct 15 2009, 08:53 AM
gps'd at 100 and still accelerating chasing down mikies six and dave raby monster on the flat on the mount baker run, just before we were three wide on a two lane.
[i wish there were photo evidence .... or maybe not!]
I let you catch up!and that stock six was even pulling away from Greenies Raby
...3 wide on north I-5 two lane ...aaahhh that wasnt me 
you cant prove nothing ...............................P.S for all you guys think`n 3 wide at 100 on I-5 ..thats not the case ,we did slow down before Troy decided he was at Daytona and wanted to make it 3 wide ..woulda been a cool picture
Posted by: computers4kids Oct 15 2009, 09:00 AM
I was going 80 once with my 914 on a trailer trying to keep up with Mike's 6 who supposedly was leading the caravan pack to the WCR in Irvine in that lovely traffic. I soon realized I was outmatched. 
According to my dyno and gearing with a 5th H gear, I should be able to do 168. However, I never go over 100. ...I enjoy life too much.
Posted by: 6freak Oct 15 2009, 09:27 AM
I was going 80 once with my 914 on a trailer trying to keep up with Mike's 6 who supposedly was leading the caravan pack to the WCR in Irvine in that lovely traffic. I soon realized I was outmatched.
According to my dyno and gearing with a 5th H gear, I should be able to do 168. However, I never go over 100.
...I enjoy life too much.not me mine was in the trailer as well ...remember we ended up take`n the same exit .......That was a FUCK`N joke ..I`m not sure Cali folks understand that a 55' truck and trailer doesnt get through the traffic like a nine14
...At the end of that little stint i was ready to choke someone,so i took a shot of my Crown Royal 
.............................120maybe, only cause i had some fuck`n State trooper chase`n me ..I never look at the speedo,,, and if you do ,do you reallize how far you have traveled without seeing the road ...I could be wrong but i think that at 60MPH when you look down at the speedo "focus" and the look back up you have traveled over 100 feet without even seeing the road ,,AT 120 thats easly double if not tripled
Posted by: jsayre914 Oct 15 2009, 11:00 AM
110 on a straight flat in my stock 2.0, confirmd with Zach's GPS. but that motor was tired and is currently being built up to a 2056.
Posted by: maxwelj Oct 15 2009, 12:11 PM
140 + indicated on the autobahn (so I was legal, if not smart) near Kaiserslautern in 1971. Car went faster in 4th than in fifth. Stock 6
Posted by: jimkelly Oct 15 2009, 02:43 PM
i guess i have been to 90 in 4th gear - but can't prove it : ))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9viaGK6NA7M
Posted by: messix Oct 15 2009, 03:16 PM
gps'd at 100 and still accelerating chasing down mikies six and dave raby monster on the flat on the mount baker run, just before we were three wide on a two lane.
[i wish there were photo evidence .... or maybe not!]
I let you catch up!and that stock six was even pulling away from Greenies Raby
...3 wide on north I-5 two lane ...aaahhh that wasnt me you cant prove nothing ...............................P.S for all you guys think`n 3 wide at 100 on I-5 ..thats not the case ,we did slow down before Troy decided he was at Daytona and wanted to make it 3 wide ..woulda been a cool picturethats right it was curt not dave! [the gray hair memory leak] dave prolly would left you were standing still.
daytona? i don't know what your talking about! there was about a foot or two between us!
Posted by: nick mironov Oct 15 2009, 03:18 PM
153 mph.
But it was strapped down to a dynomometer.
SBC 283, about 6,200 rpm.
Nick
Posted by: hcdmueller Oct 15 2009, 03:30 PM
GPS said 130mph on the autobahn outside of Kaiserslautern with a stock 76 2.0. It started getting pretty floaty at that speed.
Posted by: jimkelly Oct 15 2009, 03:33 PM
too late : ) i already mailed you a deposit : ))
--
Haha, Nope Jim not selling. What would i do with all my time then? Always something to work on.
love it. Posted by: DBCooper Oct 15 2009, 03:37 PM
106 in the quarter, in 4th and still a LOT left. I've gone faster but the speedo got to retirement age, so that's the only legitimate number I have.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Oct 15 2009, 04:14 PM
About 600 knots, BEFORE the pilot let me put the throttle at "Full Military Power". F-100F. Back in the late 60s, that was pretty fast. Now, not so much.
The Cap'n
Posted by: underthetire Oct 15 2009, 04:31 PM
even 100 on mine. Whehooo let the rust fly !
147 in my mustang GT, never do that again !
Had a top of the rear strut come out doing 90 on HWY 5. Ended ok though.
Posted by: jsayre914 Oct 15 2009, 04:40 PM
110 on a straight flat in my stock 2.0, confirmd with Zach's GPS. but that motor was tired and is currently being built up to a 2056.
I also lost half of my windshield trim on that adventure. still looking for replcment trim to this day.
at that speed, these cars start comming apart
Posted by: Ferg Oct 15 2009, 04:57 PM
109 in my old six conversion (2.7) on the 15 according to one of Nevada's finest in a Z28 Camaro Pursuit 
I was on the coast down at that point, betting I saw better of 120.
Asked me to step out of the vehicle, and put me in his back seat, after paperwork checked out (I had just bought it, expired CA tags and a signed title and my proof of Insurance is all I had) He asked me what I had under the hood, we walked over, and I showed him.
He said slow it down a bit and have a good trip, no ticket
Posted by: MikeSpraggi Oct 16 2009, 03:49 AM
Speedo showed 125 on the back straight at Watkins Glen just before the bustop. Probably more like 115 but can't prove it. Stock 2.2 /6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYAwJsuzTBo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qAnY2L3SY&NR=1
Posted by: carr914 Oct 16 2009, 05:40 AM
110 on a straight flat in my stock 2.0, confirmd with Zach's GPS. but that motor was tired and is currently being built up to a 2056.
I also lost half of my windshield trim on that adventure. still looking for replcment trim to this day.
at that speed, these cars start comming apart
Yep, I lost my windshield trim at Sebring, it blew off on the front straight @ about 110mph. Here it is the trim is gone from the top and drivers side.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Oct 16 2009, 07:44 AM
I went 87MPH on GPS (1.8L 40IDF Webers) - the car had more (just a little) in it - my passgenger was white as a sheet - had to back off before he soiled the seat... 
Posted by: RoadGlue Oct 16 2009, 12:48 PM
The non-GPS speeds are bunk! My yellow car has short gears. Tops out a 104 MPH in Fifth at redline GPS. The speedo indicated something a lot faster (like 125 or something). Plus the car has 205/50/15s. The blue car has the same tires but stock gearing it's already 10mph optimistic at 40.
GPS or it's fake!
Posted by: DBCooper Oct 16 2009, 12:55 PM
GPS or it's fake!
But the timing system and traps at the dragstrip is O.K., right?
Posted by: underthetire Oct 16 2009, 12:55 PM
The non-GPS speeds are bunk! My yellow car has short gears. Tops out a 104 MPH in Fifth at redline GPS. The speedo indicated something a lot faster (like 125 or something). Plus the car has 205/50/15s. The blue car has the same tires but stock gearing it's already 10mph optimistic at 40.
GPS or it's fake!
I would agree, however I looked down at my max speed and it showed 384 MPH. I don't have a jet turbine on top of my trunk so I kinda doubt it !
Posted by: wbergtho Oct 16 2009, 03:18 PM
165Mph at Brainerd and 175mph (and still accellerating!) on 35E in St Paul, MN racing crotch rockets. I feel a lot safer on the track at those speeds.
widebody Ls6 powered full cage 914 w/ 540Hp & 930 box.
Posted by: iamchappy Oct 16 2009, 03:39 PM
Hi Bill...... 
Posted by: campbellcj Oct 16 2009, 04:40 PM
Interesting - according to my gear chart, my car with the current tires and gears is limited to 125. (More like 130 if I actually hit the rev limiter).
However, it should get there hella quickly with the new engine...
Posted by: carr914 Oct 16 2009, 06:38 PM
The non-GPS speeds are bunk! My yellow car has short gears. Tops out a 104 MPH in Fifth at redline GPS. The speedo indicated something a lot faster (like 125 or something). Plus the car has 205/50/15s. The blue car has the same tires but stock gearing it's already 10mph optimistic at 40.
GPS or it's fake!
Thanks for insulting everybody that doesn't have a GPS. I can look out a car window and tell how fast a car is going.
GPS units are for people that don't know where they are going and can't read Maps.
T.C.
Posted by: RoadGlue Oct 16 2009, 07:00 PM
The non-GPS speeds are bunk! My yellow car has short gears. Tops out a 104 MPH in Fifth at redline GPS. The speedo indicated something a lot faster (like 125 or something). Plus the car has 205/50/15s. The blue car has the same tires but stock gearing it's already 10mph optimistic at 40.
GPS or it's fake!
Thanks for insulting everybody that doesn't have a GPS. I can look out a car window and tell how fast a car is going.
GPS units are for people that don't know where they are going and can't read Maps.
T.C.
Either you're joking by saying I insulted you or you have some pretty thin skin over there.
Joking = high five
Not joking = grow a pair dude
Posted by: JazonJJordan Oct 16 2009, 07:10 PM
Must be some of those famous Klamath Falls Peacock Speed-bumps we hear bout'
I would seriously avoid the cows...that would leave a lasting impression!
Had my stock 2.0 to 95 on a nice flat, straight country road where I live. Nothing but cows and Peacocks. Yes, Peacocks! A guy up the road from me raises them. there all over the damn place around here!
Posted by: JazonJJordan Oct 16 2009, 07:18 PM
I recall the 105-110mph range- though that was not "it" /all the -1.7 engine- could do, but the chassis was way++, too squirly over 110 and maxed out without sway or any tuning. (mine+for me)
Posted by: JazonJJordan Oct 16 2009, 07:30 PM
Agreed. (As stock~ 110 and Real squirly~) 
110 on a straight flat in my stock 2.0, confirmd with Zach's GPS. but that motor was tired and is currently being built up to a 2056.
I also lost half of my windshield trim on that adventure. still looking for replcment trim to this day.
at that speed, these cars start comming apart
Posted by: campbellcj Oct 16 2009, 11:50 PM
I took my former 70 911 Targa up to 120-ish on the (empty) freeway once, long ago, and I remember that it was pretty stable directionally but the front end felt distinctly light...sorta like an airplane about to nose-up off the runway. The wind noise was extreme. If it had not had a completely redone suspension and great tires, no way I would have even tried that.
In contrast my Audi barely feels like it's moving at 110-120. However I am sure it would feel light and squirrely much above that.
Posted by: Sparky Oct 17 2009, 07:24 AM
In the '68 Mustang the north side of 130 racing a '66 Shelby on the Mass Pike. In the 914 just under 100 needle started to bounce too much to read it after I passed 95. In the 951 - once the needle passed 120 I was afraid to look down again, silly 911 next to me backed down and got caught by a statey.
Since being laid off all fast cars and toys have been sold. I've had time to reflect on the stupid driving/racing I was doing on the highways and will not be doing it again. Spending time with my kids is more important to me!
Posted by: Joe Ricard Oct 17 2009, 08:09 AM
125 on the front straight at No Problem Raceway
Calculated 138 banging the rev limiter in 5th.
Posted by: Dr Evil Oct 17 2009, 08:25 AM
We should have a fastest 914 trophy for 1.7, 1.8, 2.0, modified, etc. We need to go to a lake bed and set it up. That would rock!
Posted by: rick 918-S Oct 17 2009, 09:03 AM
RRC 09 Monument National Park: 3400 RPM's 5 gear (HB gear) 255/50/16's=125 mph.
6500 rpms would be somewhere north of 230 mph... In a 914? That would make you pucker 
Posted by: dlestep Oct 17 2009, 11:45 AM
clocked @ 75 on a 12 speed...1979...downhill on east side of
sierras to hwy 14, extremely tucked and my ass had a
death grip on the seat...
105 in explorer near orlando, felt like 80
131 in 911 returning from Sebring
108 in 73 914 75 south
55 with 74 914 (being trailered)...someday, I'll bust triple digit...
95 in wife's Jeep...she'd kill me if she knew...it was a handful...
145 on autobahn in 1971, between Frankfurt and Heidelberg, returning
from Frankfurt Fleughaven. Held it for about 15 minutes...
afterwards felt like I could get out and push at 35...
15 on roller blades, fell about three times, no more for me...
0.01 on a pogostick...my kids fell down laughing because my pants fell
around my ankles.
5.1 with my daughter in the grocery cart at Target...was pulled over by
a guy with a red shirt and walkie-talkie...
5,321 on a aluminum disk down a very steep mountain side in the snow...
haven't been the same since.
Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Oct 17 2009, 01:22 PM
The non-GPS speeds are bunk! ................
GPS or it's fake!
Does police radar count for anything?
Posted by: Drums66 Oct 17 2009, 01:41 PM
Calculated 138 banging the rev limiter in 5th.
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had the same experience, on ramp entering north on I-5.....135MPH
I thought jet planes,speed(thunder)boats and 3 stage rockets
did'nt count??? (are you experienced?)
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Oct 17 2009, 02:54 PM
I had my 1.8 up to 115 indicated before I backed off (she still had just a bit left), but the actual speed was probably 104.
GPS said 130mph on the autobahn outside of Kaiserslautern with a stock 76 2.0. It started getting pretty floaty at that speed.
In 2003 got the opportunity to pilot a BMW M5 down the same stretch @ 270kph (approx 167mph) for a short distance. I just wanted to be able to say I had an M5 against the 6500rpm red-line in top gear
That car would go no faster!!
Posted by: 6freak Oct 17 2009, 09:16 PM
[quote name='RoadGlue' date='Oct 16 2009, 11:48 AM' post='1226677']
The non-GPS speeds are bunk!
Damn we been made boys ..Scatter
Posted by: flippa Oct 17 2009, 10:00 PM
Massachucetts State Police pulled me over going a little fast many years ago.
I was driving up Rte 93 north and a 944 pulled up to me & was calling me on. Thought it was a good idea to play. The police didn't think so. The 944 put the hammer down & was gone. I pulled over.
He walked up to the car & started flipping out. "What the f--- to you think this is, the mother-f---ing Autobahn? Licence & registration a--hole!"
When he walked back to the car, he called me a few more choice names, threw the ticket in at me & said "We pulled your buddy over up in Andover; he will be spending the day with us."
I have never seen a Cop that pissed!!!! I remember sitting in the car thinking that I was going to be locked up. I think the only reason that I wasn't arrested was that I was in the Army Reserve & was in uniform.
Still have a copy of the ticket. Estimated speed - 90 to 95 in a 55. That was a $300 fine back in 1989.
A 74 2.0 goes fast enough to really piss off the Mass State Police.
Posted by: wbergtho Oct 17 2009, 11:15 PM
What's up Chappy? I suppose you aren't too thrilled with the weather as of late? Not exactly sports car weather...huh?
Posted by: budman5201 Oct 18 2009, 12:30 AM
well today was the my day. Pulled over doing 82 in a 65.(personally think it was way faster.) Yep got a ticket and the cop was a car guy. Almost thought he was going to let me off.....but it was prob what i needed. I have been going a little too fast lately. THANK god it wasnt the other night.
Boost now turned down from 17 to stock 7lbs and no longer racing gas. That should keep me in check.
Posted by: Sparky Oct 19 2009, 05:44 AM
...A 74 2.0 goes fast enough to really piss off the Mass State Police.
I got pulled over on 395 one night in the 951 after a Camaro kept doing the dart and drop lets race dance. I fell for the bait dropped the hammer and suddenly the Camaro went all friggin Transformer on me and blue lights were flashing all over the place. The Camaro was a trooper trying to bag aggressive drivers. They sure can hide those new little xenon flashers good! I rolled the dice fought the ticket and won, the magistrate wasn't impressed that I was lured into it and that the trooper didnt show for the hearing.
Posted by: iamchappy Oct 19 2009, 07:56 AM
Bill looks like it's going to be a nice day today for a spin....
Posted by: turboturtle Oct 19 2009, 08:56 AM
Although I cannot say what the speedometer error is, I had my 73' 2.0 at 140 without the rev limiter. In fifth gear the car just kept pulling right on up well into the red. I thought it was a pretty sight. When I crested a small hill, that was when I felt I was going a little way to fast! That was Fifteen years ago now. Haven't been there since. I will go back some day though just to see if it can still do it!
Posted by: Demick Oct 19 2009, 10:22 AM
I slowed down for the pic.
Attached thumbnail(s)
Posted by: Kirmizi Oct 19 2009, 10:50 AM
That's funny Demick, I have a cellphone pic just like that titled "Fly Porsche"
Mike
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 19 2009, 07:24 PM
whats the fastest someone has been in their stock or modified 914?
About ~135mph @ 6800 rpm with a stock 901 (hitting the rev limiter) going uphill climbing the sierras on Hwy 80 from Reno to Tahoe with a fully loaded car and a passenger (coming back from the RRC).
Andy
Posted by: orange914 Oct 19 2009, 11:29 PM
clocked @ 75 on a 12 speed...1979...downhill on east side of
sierras to hwy 14, extremely tucked and my ass had a
death grip on the seat...
105 in explorer near orlando, felt like 80
131 in 911 returning from Sebring
108 in 73 914 75 south
55 with 74 914 (being trailered)...someday, I'll bust triple digit...
95 in wife's Jeep...she'd kill me if she knew...it was a handful...
145 on autobahn in 1971, between Frankfurt and Heidelberg, returning
from Frankfurt Fleughaven. Held it for about 15 minutes...
afterwards felt like I could get out and push at 35...
15 on roller blades, fell about three times, no more for me...
0.01 on a pogostick...my kids fell down laughing because my pants fell
around my ankles.
5.1 with my daughter in the grocery cart at Target...was pulled over by
a guy with a red shirt and walkie-talkie...
5,321 on a aluminum disk down a very steep mountain side in the snow...
haven't been the same since.
funny stuff
i look back and think of the P.O.S. 's i had over XXX m.p.h. and cring
Posted by: mudfoot76 Oct 20 2009, 12:30 PM
On the back straight at Mid-Ohio (between Keyhole and China Beach), I was able to reach 6500rpm in 5th with my Raby 2270. According to the tire size and gear ratio calculators on this site, that translates to approximately 135mph. No idea what the speedometer was indicating, but the car felt nice and solid.
Posted by: jaminM3 Oct 20 2009, 02:19 PM
I had my '76 at 110 and that was all it would do on a flat road at about 5000' elevation. I don't think a stock 914 will go any faster, I think non-stock tire/wheel changes screw up the speedo.....
Posted by: Eddie914 Oct 20 2009, 02:33 PM
I must be reading the transaxle gear charts wrong. The charts I have, show a stock 901/914 transaxle (A F N V ZD) producing a top speed of 155MPH using 24.3" tall tires at 6750RPM. Andy and Geoff posted that they were at about 135MPH at that RPM.
I have never hit the rev limiter in 5th (my 3.2 only has enough power on the straights at PR or BR to pull about 6,000RPM). I am usually concentrating on hitting the braking points and not watching the bouncing tach needle.
Speedometer ... what's that?
Eddie
Posted by: carr914 Oct 20 2009, 05:58 PM
Been Ticket'd @ 125 in a 911. Fastest I've driven 192MPH.
T.C.
Posted by: naro914 Oct 20 2009, 06:37 PM
143 mph on the back straight at Road Atlanta and Papa Smurf felt perfectly smooth.
I know the speed because I had a friend in a 996 run with me and tell me the top speed we hit - though I swear I was pulling away from him
FWIW, my speedo is pretty accurate - it said 140ish...
Posted by: john rogers Oct 20 2009, 07:15 PM
The only way to tell is to get a GPS unit that can record top speed, make sure to reset it before use and stuff it under the seat. I would hazard a guess that a 914 speedometer is not very accurate since it is mechanical, had a huge cable and a really sucky drive off the rear of the gear box?! I have found gearing charts with tire sizes (diameter, etc) to start dropping accuracy once you get over 70 to 75 MPH. Goodyear used to post the revolutions per mile of their racing tires at various speeds up to whatever they were rated for. As I had imagined, the cantilever slicks changed very little due to the stiff side walls, but some of the older models would change quite a bit. Now of course everyone races with those rubber band tires that have nearly no sidewalls for flexing.
Posted by: mudfoot76 Oct 21 2009, 09:16 AM
I must be reading the transaxle gear charts wrong. The charts I have, show a stock 901/914 transaxle (A F N V ZD) producing a top speed of 155MPH using 24.3" tall tires at 6750RPM. Andy and Geoff posted that they were at about 135MPH at that RPM.
I presume my gearbox is stock, but I honestly have no idea what gear stacks are in there. According to the gear charts and tire size, my track tires are 23.1" tall. Never thought about measuring.
Now my curiosity is piqued - I'll try the GPS next time I'm at the track.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Oct 21 2009, 08:22 PM
I had mine all the way to 85 (GPS) tonight. It had a lot more to go, but I did not. Just passing a truck on 83. Got there faster then expected, actually. This is going to be a fun car when I actually get carbs dialed in and the exhaust made more better.
Zach
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 21 2009, 09:14 PM
I must be reading the transaxle gear charts wrong. The charts I have, show a stock 901/914 transaxle (A F N V ZD) producing a top speed of 155MPH using 24.3" tall tires at 6750RPM. Andy and Geoff posted that they were at about 135MPH at that RPM.
Mhmmmm. I just looked at my gear chart and you're right. According to the chart, i'm running a MSX box ...
Andy
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Oct 22 2009, 08:34 AM
I must be reading the transaxle gear charts wrong. The charts I have, show a stock 901/914 transaxle (A F N V ZD) producing a top speed of 155MPH using 24.3" tall tires at 6750RPM. Andy and Geoff posted that they were at about 135MPH at that RPM.
Mhmmmm. I just looked at my gear chart and you're right. According to the chart, i'm running a MSX box ...
AndyGearing charts lie.
They don't take into account friction from road surface, drag, or any of the other factors that dictate actual top speeds. The faster you go, the more drag becomes an issue. Your actual speed is going to be increasingly wrong (slower and slower) compared to the gearing chart as speed increases due to drag increasing at a faster rate. I know I'm not saying this well, perhaps someone more versed with physics or engineering can step in.
Zach
Posted by: Cupomeat Oct 22 2009, 08:44 AM
Zach,
I don't understand what you are trying to suggest with your last post.
Gear charts do not lie, and if you are going a specific RPM with a particular size tire, in the same final drive and gear ratio, you will all be doing the same speed.
Certainly, the ability of an engine to push the car to those speeds (given power and torque multipliers of the gearing and such) are an issue, but speed at gear at RPM is a constant...
...unless your tires grow in diameter or something is slipping.
Yes, drag losses due to tires and gearbox are pretty constant throughout the speed range, where aerodynamic drags grows exponentially due to speed.
I hope that helps.
OR, and a BIG OR, I didn't understand what you are trying to say.
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 22 2009, 11:11 AM
Gearing charts lie.
They don't take into account friction from road surface, drag, or any of the other factors that dictate actual top speeds. The faster you go, the more drag becomes an issue. Your actual speed is going to be increasingly wrong (slower and slower) compared to the gearing chart as speed increases due to drag increasing at a faster rate. I know I'm not saying this well, perhaps someone more versed with physics or engineering can step in.
No.
Friction and drag make it harder for a car to get to a certain speed, but if your engine is turning a certain rpm and you have a certain gear ratio and tire size, your speed will be exactly what the gear chart predicts.
Some cars just get to that point faster than others. (And some may never get there
) Andy
Posted by: charliew Oct 22 2009, 12:11 PM
A thought just occured to me in this discussion. If the fully aired up tire is 24.0 inches tall what if you let some air out and it's only now 23.0 inches tall. It's still the same diameter so the revolutions would be the same but the distance from the axle center to the ground is less. Sooo therotically the fd would be a slightly lower ratio and you would accelerate quicker but the calculated speed would stay the same.
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 22 2009, 12:52 PM
It's still the same diameter
Nope.
Fully inflated it would be a nice round circle at a radius of 12".
Under-inflated the effective radius of the circle is the distance from the axle center to the ground, in your example 11.5".
Andy
Posted by: charliew Oct 22 2009, 12:54 PM
Bad terminology I meant circumferance.
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 22 2009, 01:01 PM
Bad terminology I meant circumferance.
I know. My post above still applies. The circumference of the tire is irrelevant as it is deformed when under-inflated.
The important part is the circumference of the circle described by the radius from the axle center to the ground.
That is your effective circumference.
On a fully inflated tire, it just happens to be the same as the circumference of the tire.
Andy
Posted by: Sleepin Oct 22 2009, 01:25 PM
Was pulled over for doing 95 in a 40 zone once (not in a 914)...no ticket.... .....the badge in my wallet helped me out with a verbal warning.
Posted by: SirAndy Oct 22 2009, 01:37 PM
the badge in my wallet helped me out with a verbal warning
Am i the only one who thinks that is just wrong?
Posted by: Ferg Oct 22 2009, 02:52 PM
the badge in my wallet helped me out with a verbal warning
Am i the only one who thinks that is just wrong?
You have a Slits fanclub badge too?
No seriously, what badge?
Cops around here are pretty cool, I have coffee with two of them most every week, neither could care less about no front plate on either porsche, and they even staged a fake photo opp with my buddy and his Lamborgini. They show up to my show, and one has a C3 vette that he's owned since high school.
Boulder cops, that's a different story...
Oh and to keep it semi on topic, I've been 58mph on a bicycle
Posted by: SLITS Oct 22 2009, 03:40 PM
Professional Courtesy there Ahandie .... at least that's what the Blue Meanies call it.
Posted by: WaideS Oct 22 2009, 04:15 PM
Was pulled over for doing 95 in a 40 zone once (not in a 914)...no ticket....
.....the badge in my wallet helped me out with a verbal warning.You mean the badge ON your wallet
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Oct 22 2009, 07:05 PM
You mean the badge ON your wallet
Posted by: Sleepin Oct 22 2009, 09:30 PM
Wasn't nothing special....a Cracker Jack MP badge. I had my gunbelt in the back seat too (at least it was empty). I had two Maryland Stateys and two St. Mary's County Sheriffs parked behind me in no time. He basically asked me WTF and then suggested I slow down a bit. My buddy was in the passenger seat and was flipping out. After living in Southern Maryland for 36 years, he had never seen something like that.
It was fun....but stupid.
Posted by: SLITS Oct 22 2009, 10:59 PM
Obviously a serious case of "That Guy Syndrome".
Posted by: Sleepin Oct 23 2009, 12:48 AM
Obviously a serious case of "That Guy Syndrome".
That might have had a little to do with it......
I did have that car up to 8200rpm in 5th....it would calculate to 153. Had I run it up to the 8450rpm limiter I would have topped it out at 157-158. Insane for a grocery getter!
Posted by: MoveQik Oct 23 2009, 01:31 AM
132mph per the GPS. The car was idiotically(its a word in my world) light and unsafe feeling so I QUICKLY brought it back down to a reasonable 120ish.
In all seriousness, the car was SO not safe at that speed and I did quickly back down. Visibility was miles and miles of straight road with no traffic anywhere. However, a blowout or any other "issue" at that speed quickly becomes MUCH more serious. 132 is on the resume but I won't be heading there again any time soon.
Posted by: jt914-6 Oct 23 2009, 05:24 PM
131 on a track, still climbing, ran out of road....Gearing on this car says aroung 155....
Posted by: 6freak Oct 23 2009, 09:32 PM
LIE`S I TELL YOU ALL LIE`S
How about 154 on the back stretch at Portland in a 2008 Z-06 .......and that was just 4th gear ...........wwweeeeee
Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 23 2009, 09:48 PM
Ralph says 170
I say US hwy 2 125 speedo 137
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Posted by: 6freak Oct 23 2009, 10:00 PM
Ralph says 170
I say US hwy 2 125 speedo 137
thats my fav color on the right ......I would sand and paint mine if my paint wasnt so good Back to the show
Posted by: john rogers Oct 23 2009, 10:16 PM
There is a black tube frame 914 for sale here in San Diego that is setup for a small block Chevy with NOS, 930 trans and has run 188 at the Salt. It comes with the wheels and tires needed to go that fast but no engine. The engine that was used was a 488 CU inch monster making about 800 to 900 HP when the NOS was on in 4th gear. The gearing was for 90 in 1st, 145 2nd, 185 3rd and 210 in 4th but it never got past 188 without spinning due to back end lift. Can't use a wing or any external stuff and then I told the owner about raising the rear of the Targa top to break the vacuum in back and he nearly cried! That would be one to satisfy anyone's need to go fast in a 914. It is posted through Black Forest at 858-292-1192, not sure how much though.
Posted by: jsayre914 Nov 8 2009, 03:07 PM
refreshed 1.8 w/ stock injection can hit 110 with no problem, i can proove it
Posted by: tavoman27 Apr 10 2010, 10:48 AM
I had mine at 120MPH turn 1 at call speedway last year during PCA Festival of Speed parade lap!!!! got kicked out after that! ja.
Posted by: Frodefe Apr 10 2010, 11:02 AM
An indicated 240 km/h (approx. 149 mph).
I guess 140 mph are more correct...
Posted by: jimkelly Apr 10 2010, 01:34 PM
cops/pigs with their radar guns, hiding behind bushes, and dishing out speeding tickets for fun/revenue, knowing they will never receive one themselves, is the one thing that burns me up FAR BEYOND anything else. i will stop there. j
the badge in my wallet helped me out with a verbal warning
Am i the only one who thinks that is just wrong?
Posted by: Drums66 Apr 10 2010, 01:53 PM
Hey....cops are cool(they are people too)But.....
getting out of wrong doing because you're a cop
is not.......I think that is what's meant???
Posted by: Tom Apr 10 2010, 02:10 PM
In 1980 I had a 75 with 1.8 and western wheels. Don't remember tire size, but low profile. Anyway, on the way from San Diego to San Fran, I tried keeping up with a Mercedes turbo diesel on I-5 north of Bakersfield. My speedo indicated 130 for a couple of miles and the temp was creeping up and I couldn't afford the ticket, so I backed off. Kept with him until then,tho' Maybe he wasn't flat out?
Now 30 years later! I don't do that kind of risky activity anymore.
Getting ticketed for speeding is only going to get worse in the future. One of the reasons I decided to go with smaller profile tires (55's). A little better acceleration and yes the speedo is off, but I never need the top end anyway. Also cruising at a steady speed at a slightly higher RPM = more air flow to cool the engine.
Slight Hi-jack, sorry.
Tom
Posted by: rfuerst911sc Apr 10 2010, 02:23 PM
I did a indicated 120 the other day in my 3.0 GT clone. I need to get my GPS in that car to see how accurate the speedometer is. Stock transmission to my knowledge with 245/45x16 tires. Surprisingly with no front valance it felt rock solid.
Posted by: Downunderman Apr 10 2010, 02:27 PM
About 130 down the straight at Bathurst last weekend, but I was backing off well before the hump because it was getting a bit light.
Posted by: RJMII Apr 10 2010, 02:38 PM
I hit about 5mph while it wasn't on jackstands... I think I pushed it faster going out of the driveway than back into the driveway. (downhill vs uphill)
Posted by: Porcharu Apr 10 2010, 05:27 PM
Here's a good video of Bill Bodine (yes, those Bodines) at Willow. Turn 8 is at the bottom of the hill where he passes the black 914.
Watch the white 911 at the end of turn 2- OOPS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7kKRDTPKI
It takes a while to learn to not lift in that corner, everything tells you that you're going too fast.
That is most certainly a 'pucker power' corner. I had trouble keeping the loud pedal flat in 5th in my old GTI track car. I kept imagining my car going left and flipping about 8 times.
Steve
Posted by: Andyrew Apr 10 2010, 10:40 PM
Whatever 5.5k rpm's is in 5th gear on the 901.. Had the top off and the girlfriend in the car as well.
Posted by: TC 914-8 Apr 10 2010, 11:47 PM
gps'd at 100 and still accelerating chasing down mikies six and dave raby monster on the flat on the mount baker run, just before we were three wide on a two lane.
[i wish there were photo evidence .... or maybe not!]
C'mon Troy, Tell them about when you did 110 in my car in 4th gear in I-90 at the WCR '08, peg'in the tach @7k.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Apr 11 2010, 05:53 AM
Back around 1986, A friend that bought a new 2nd Generation RX-7.
We were both driving down Rt 93 from Derry N.H. to Mass. He wanted to show me
how fast his new rotary was.. I had just put a 2.5 S/S in my 6 ..
Not sure exactly how fast we were going, But I pulled away from him with no problem. I was running over 7000 rpms in 5th ..
He was really not impressed his new wonder Car got beat by a 16 year old 914.
I ran that thing with no air cleaners and a set of headers that were a backup set for Ralph Meaneys 914-6 and a pair of straight through resonators.. Talk about loud..
Worst ticket was from Mass State Police in 1980 when I was trying to outrun a thunder storm on the CBX. I slowed down as I approached an underpass and sure enough they had a Radar Trap set up. Got me at 105, But because I stopped immediately, he wrote it up as 99. I told him Gee, thanks for the 6mph break. Cop next to him told me that over 100mph was Immediate Arrest for Driving to Endanger and tow the bike. Then I got the point.
Still have that ticket somewhere..
If I find it,I'll post it.
Now, clean record for at least 10 years..
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 11 2010, 11:18 AM
Well, back in [long enough ago to be past the Statute of Limitations], I ran the 2.0 up the speedo as far as I could out on I-5 one morning. I got to 120 MPH indicated (took a looooooooooooooooong time to get past 105 MPH, and was probably actually somewhere near 110 at max) before a van pulled into my lane only doing about 70. He was at least a mile in front of me, but I still had to get on the brakes HARD!
Oh, yeah--that was with the top in the trunk, where it belongs!
That kinda cured me of that particular madness.
--DD
Posted by: Drums66 Apr 11 2010, 12:42 PM
[quote name='jimkelly' date='Apr 10 2010, 12:34 PM' post='1301168']
cops/pigs with their radar guns, hiding behind bushes, and dishing out speeding tickets for fun/revenue, knowing they will never receive one themselves, is the one thing that burns me up FAR BEYOND anything else. i will stop there. j
Jim Kelly........I hear you!
Cheating is not cool either ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: 914rat Apr 11 2010, 07:56 PM
Wasn't nothing special....a Cracker Jack MP badge. I had my gunbelt in the back seat too (at least it was empty). I had two Maryland Stateys and two St. Mary's County Sheriffs parked behind me in no time. He basically asked me WTF and then suggested I slow down a bit. My buddy was in the passenger seat and was flipping out. After living in Southern Maryland for 36 years, he had never seen something like that.
It was fun....but stupid.
St Mary's State Cop gave me a ticket cause it was raining and I was doing the speed limit on Rt. 5.How could you leave such a wonderful place?
Posted by: Drums66 Apr 12 2010, 11:59 AM
Whatever 5.5k rpm's is in 5th gear on the 901.. Had the top off and the girlfriend in the car as well.
The only way to fly.....
Posted by: Drums66 Apr 12 2010, 12:01 PM
Whatever 5.5k rpm's is in 5th gear on the 901.. Had the top off and the girlfriend in the car as well.
..The only wav to fly!......
Posted by: gandalf_025 Apr 12 2010, 01:44 PM
I did find the ticket I mentioned.
Funny thing was that the bike was registered to my wife
through a P.O. Box in N.H. although we lived in Mass.
Also, she not only didn't have a N.H. Bike license,
she didn't have a N.H. CAR license either. They neglected to ask.
The reason for the N.H. registration..? They didn't require
any Insurance.. You were supposed to be able to post a
10,000.00 Bond in case of an accident, but they didn't ask.
So, the bike was registered to the wrong person, in the wrong State
and had no Insurance or Inspection Sticker.
Now, those were the Days....
Oh, yeah.. Names deleted to protect the "then young and stupid"...
Posted by: campbellcj Apr 12 2010, 10:26 PM
My car is gearing limited to between 128-133mph depending where the rev limiter is set. I will try to get a GPS reading at the track in a few weeks to see if I actually hit that and how close my Excel spreadsheet is.
Posted by: 396 Apr 13 2010, 12:35 AM
138, turn 8 at Willow Springs. RPM's topped out at 7500 with an X 5th gear. I wouldn't want to go any faster with this size of tires through that corner, it creeps around a lot at that speed.
The engine's a carbed 2056 with bigger or lighter everything.
Steve,
138 on turn 8...you got some big ones
Posted by: Joe Ricard Apr 13 2010, 06:39 AM
Had to concentrate to steady it at 100 longenough to snap the pic. cruised that wat way for quite awhile.
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Posted by: Drums66 Apr 14 2010, 03:50 PM
Had to concentrate to steady it at 100 longenough to snap the pic. cruised that wat way for quite awhile.
Leave it to Joe!..awesome!
(please don't do that again....I like having you around!)
Posted by: Madswede Apr 14 2010, 05:20 PM
whats the fastest someone has been in their stock or modified 914?
Back when she was running, my '73 (de-modified with a 2.0 bus motor) topped the charts at 126.
Kilometers per hour.
Down a steep hill.
With a tail wind.
And different wheels/tires (cookies instead of old 4-bolt Fuchs)
I took a cell phone picture of it, somewhere.
Yeah, I had that kinda time. Hey ho. Soon, someday, that will not be the case!
- Nelson
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 14 2010, 06:33 PM
126 in a stock /4 measured by GPS.
I remember that trip. Hell...we were ALL doing 126 that day.
Posted by: Racer Chris Apr 14 2010, 08:01 PM
I was just talking with Ed today about setting the bar for you guys at 140 but I'm not sure I have the balls to do it in a customer's car.
I've been driving my 1.7L up to 90 both on the highway, and on the 45mph road to my home, rather routinely of late and that's pretty easy but...
I'm not too comfortable with the thought of passing cars at double their speed so I would need an empty stretch of road and probably a lead car.
I took the 3.6 to 125 last year when the engine wasn't running right so I know it wouldn't take long to reach a buck forty.
The speedo is 99.9% accurate, verified by GPS and I would have a cameraman with me for proof. I'll have the car for a few more days...we'll see.
Posted by: championgt1 Apr 14 2010, 08:16 PM
Do it!
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