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Posted by: ahdoman Oct 18 2009, 10:52 PM

Does anyone have a cross section view of the long? Preferrably the horizontal section undernearth the doors.

Posted by: john rogers Oct 18 2009, 11:24 PM

On our 1973 and 1974 both were empty boxes. Some have an actual heater ducting inside, ours did not, just the inlet hole in back and the stub outlet at the front of the box section.

Posted by: ahdoman Oct 19 2009, 08:52 AM

Thanks John. I'm trying to determine the construction and where the lateral seams are so I really need a cross section. Anybody ever chop a rusty chassis in half?

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Oct 19 2009, 10:28 AM

auto atlanta has good pics in the sheet metal area of eh catalog on line

Posted by: ahdoman Oct 19 2009, 06:19 PM

Thanks Sean but that's not the info I need. I'm trying to determine the construction of the long. It looks like it is a square tube welded together (seamed) along the bottom. Does it look like this in a cross section?

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Posted by: rjames Oct 20 2009, 11:25 AM

QUOTE(ahdoman @ Oct 19 2009, 05:19 PM) *

Thanks Sean but that's not the info I need. I'm trying to determine the construction of the long. It looks like it is a square tube welded together (seamed) along the bottom. Does it look like this in a cross section?

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If I remember correctly onn the outside of the long there are 2 pieces sandwhiched together. The inner piece stops short of the 90 degree bend that the outer piece makes to meet up under the long where it is spot welded.
I'm looking for some pictures I took when I had to make repairs...
But here's something along the lines of what I remember.

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I just found a picture from my repair. I was wrong about the inner piece not making the 90 degree bend, it does, but doesn't completely extend to 'seal' the box. In this photo you can see where I removed a large piece of the outer layer and a small piece of the inner layer.
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Posted by: bdstone914 Oct 20 2009, 11:31 AM

Ill get you a pic, There is a car in the back with the long chopped in half in the middle of the drivers door. Give me a few and Ill post pics.

Posted by: agentblr Oct 20 2009, 04:56 PM

I cut a rusty tub in half ! Sorry no close up of the longs....

Posted by: ahdoman Oct 20 2009, 06:50 PM

Robert - so do both the inner and outer layers meet at the seam on the bottom?

Posted by: Richard Casto Oct 20 2009, 07:26 PM

Steve,

I rebuilt mine and I have a bunch of photos here that might help...

http://motorsport.zyyz.com/project_914_03_04.htm

In in general your diagram is correct. But it's really like two "C" channels spot welded together at the top and bottom. The floor then connects to the bottom of the inner "C". But it gets more complicated near the jack receiver area and under the door hinges. That includes some level of double wall reinforcements and other structures. You also have the sill and triangular bracket layered on top of that.

Hope this helps!

Richard

Posted by: ejm Oct 20 2009, 08:29 PM

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Posted by: ahdoman Oct 20 2009, 11:13 PM

THANKS EJM! That's exactly what I was hoping for!

Posted by: carr914 Oct 21 2009, 06:52 AM

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