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Posted by: astronomerdave Nov 3 2009, 02:01 PM
My driver's side door window fell down in the door. Removing the panel I saw that it was just the little metal tang popped out of the round plastic piece which rolls in a guide at the bottom of the window. Popped it back in. Fine. Until the next day it popped out again. Like an idiot I did this two more times.
Finally last night I decided to figure out what's wrong. I popped it back in but left the door panel off so I could watch what was causing it to get stuck and pop off. I opened and closed the door, slammed it, revved the motor (to get vibrations), pounded on the door. Rolled the window up, down, fast, slow, part way, all the way, all combinations. I must have spent an hour and operated the window probably 100 times (probably about a month's worth of window action on the road). It worked perfectly. So I buttoned it up.
This morning I went for a drive and when I tried to roll up the window it popped out again.
What is going on and how do I fix this?
Thanks,
--Dave
Posted by: detoxcowboy Nov 3 2009, 02:11 PM
early or late model window regulator?
Posted by: astronomerdave Nov 3 2009, 02:21 PM
early or late model window regulator?
Oh, sorry; no info about the car!
It's a 1972/4. No idea if early or late model regulator but probably original. Turning the crank moves this little metal tang along an upside-down U shaped track.
Posted by: oldschool Nov 3 2009, 02:21 PM
My driver's side door window fell down in the door. Removing the panel I saw that it was just the little metal tang popped out of the round plastic piece which rolls in a guide at the bottom of the window. Popped it back in. Fine. Until the next day it popped out again. Like an idiot I did this two more times.
Finally last night I decided to figure out what's wrong. I popped it back in but left the door panel off so I could watch what was causing it to get stuck and pop off. I opened and closed the door, slammed it, revved the motor (to get vibrations), pounded on the door. Rolled the window up, down, fast, slow, part way, all the way, all combinations. I must have spent an hour and operated the window probably 100 times (probably about a month's worth of window action on the road). It worked perfectly. So I buttoned it up.
This morning I went for a drive and when I tried to roll up the window it popped out again.
What is going on and how do I fix this?
Thanks,
--Dave
I have a 73 I dose the same thing on my car it looks like the tape/glue or what ever Porsche ....sorry VW use? has just fall off or something.
any clues this would help me also.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 3 2009, 02:24 PM
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted, but I am not familiar with how the early regulators work since my car has late ones.
The plastic slide/bushing might need to be replaced too. maybe it is just worn.
Zach
Posted by: oldschool Nov 3 2009, 02:28 PM
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted.
Zach
Zack what about the stuff that holds the window in place? where can I get that?
Posted by: underthetire Nov 3 2009, 02:30 PM
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted.
Zach
Zack what about the stuff that holds the window in place? where can I get that?
My 73 had the glue issue. I used gaska-cinch and its been fine. (kinda like rubber cement).
Posted by: astronomerdave Nov 3 2009, 03:54 PM
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted, but I am not familiar with how the early regulators work since my car has late ones.
The plastic slide/bushing might need to be replaced too. maybe it is just worn.
Zach
yeah, mine is early, it looks like this:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/Parts/Body/door_window_crank_big.htm
but the parts in question are not shown here. Has anyone seen where to get these plastic bushings, or do you have one you could part with?
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 3 2009, 04:29 PM
Unfortunately, it's usually the metal "nipple" that's worn which of course is attached to the part that moves inside the guide channel.
I spent hours trying to fix this to no avail and finally went and bought a good used channel with working guts and a good nipple.
I doubt a new plastic piece will fix your problem. Keep us posted, i'd be interested in a working solution ...
Andy
Posted by: r_towle Nov 3 2009, 05:59 PM
I thought George at AA had a brass or bronze solution for this?
No?
I know he has the little buttons that ride up and down the front track on the early doors...
Thought he made the little button....maybe that was for the later doors...hmmm
Rich
Posted by: oldschool Nov 3 2009, 06:14 PM
There are adjustment screws inside the doors. Sounds like it needs to be adjusted.
Zach
Zack what about the stuff that holds the window in place? where can I get that?
My 73 had the glue issue. I used gaska-cinch and its been fine. (kinda like rubber cement).
where do I get gaska-cinch?
Posted by: astronomerdave Nov 3 2009, 07:42 PM
Is it possible to replace the early mechanism with a late model mechanism (assuming I were to find one)?
Posted by: r_towle Nov 3 2009, 07:45 PM
yes, but it would require you to modify the door frame on the inside.
Easiest way to do that would be to get a door so you can measure where all the new holes need to be etc.
You should be able to find a cheap door in your part of the country....heck I have 4 sitting out back..
Rich
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 3 2009, 07:48 PM
Is it possible to replace the early mechanism with a late model mechanism (assuming I were to find one)?
If you're handy with a welder, it can be done.
But be aware that all the guts are different and so is the window channel and the trim pieces.
It would be much easier to swap the whole door ...
Or just get a good used early window mechanism ...
Or find a fix for the broken nipple ...
Posted by: oldschool Nov 3 2009, 08:46 PM
Is it possible to replace the early mechanism with a late model mechanism (assuming I were to find one)?
dude there a place in my area that has a ton of doors "where do you live"
the place is in Durte Russ recycler
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