Well I placed a few orders for the car and they are coming in
New set of grills
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Looking good !!!!
That car is going to be nice. I don't care what it looks like now. Did your wife ever warm up to it yet?
more goodies
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NOS euro's
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And the tresure from what looks to be the last production run by porsche in 2000
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And more to come!!!
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OK....I need to stop drooling, Val is beginning to think I have issues!
Mr postman delivers another find so I have all the NOS sail and window trim for her!!
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Nice stuff! Finding - and affording - these kinds of parts for a complete & correct restoration gets tougher with each passing year. I've almost convinced myself that I won't undertake another early car build or resto largely for this reason.
I Love getting in Parts. It feels like everyday is Christmas.
But I have exactly what you need
New parts are fun... wish they were mine!
OK Now I am really envious. Where did you find the twin bulb euro turn signals in NOS???
Is that a NOS dash pad too, or just a recover?
Peter
I found them here on World and the dash is NOS not recovered from Evilbay
Now who was it that sold the sail trim peices to me???
I recieved my Certificate of Authenticity today and now know my engine case number!!!
Now for the needle in the hay stack hunt for it. Please keep your eyes peeled!!! Thanks
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Wow! Those are some sweet parts. I particularly like the turn signals and the dash top. Of course I would love to have the windshield and sail panel trim pieces too. I forgot how nice the fog light grills look when new. Hell ... I love it all. Best wishes with the restoration.
If that is indeed the correct number. COA's for our cars are notorious for being incorrect.
My car # is 673, The COA said my engine # was supposed to be 6404418, but it is actually 6404444
T.C.
Thats not what I want to hear. + or - 20
what,the older car has a newer #
#673=6404444
#970=6404411
As Borat would say " NICE "...
Where did you get the sail panel trim? I may need a nicer set...
I was asked to post pictures of what I have to work with. More when it gets moved into the garage. Time to get dirty
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Do you want to swap , mine looks to be very similar to yours, right down to the missing rear wings....
Can I be the 1st to say " That'll Buff Out"
and Veltror, that looks a lot nicer than what you and I started with.
Go Socalandy Go
If anyone has the patience to do it right, it will be Andy! It might take a super buffer, but it will be pristine when it is done!
Some nice finds today at the Porsche swap meet!!
NOS front window trim, a very clean early rear bumper and to finish weak an engine cover stop.
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the quest continues!!!!!!
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Nice finds!
Are you shooting for as many NOS parts as possible?
Car doesn't look like it has a rusty hell hole, what happened to the rear fenders
and trunk? Do you know the history of the car?
Good luck with it, I'd love a real six needing a resto.
John
Andy.... If the car looks familar then maybe you know more details about it? like where is the original engine case
Yes, I plan on getting nothing but the best in the way of parts for this resto, Lots of pics and progress after the route 66 run This is the way the car was when the seller bought it. Glad I have inventory from part cars!!!
finding parts is a fun part of the journey. the hunt continues, tell me what you got that I might need!!!!!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=911302
hi Andy,
not your numbers but right in your back yard. good luck and cant wait to see this thread!! Dave
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=928347
heres another..hope this helps Dave
Are you adding these parts to the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=46?
I can and will, I have alot of NOS parts with the P/N's on them. Maybe add some not aready listed!!! Thanks for telling me since I had'nt thunk of it
THANK YOU!!! Lots of pictures would be best (back, underside, etc). The idea is that if someday we need to reproduce or repair something, we have a nice reference to get all the details as correct as possible.
Well the fun started today. Moved the car and started to gut it!!
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clean off the spider webs......
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No Hell in this hole!!
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Gor alot done today. A few more pics
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Still running on 2 donuts at 3 pm
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Overall, the car does not look that bad. Should be and interesting project.
Looks better than I initially thought! Someone must have started the bodywork a few years ago huh? Will be nice to see the progress Andy!!!
I was just thinking the same thing. The first photo I saw had it as a close runner-up for the "Rustiest 914" trophy but the closer you look the more salvagable it appears.
I hope to remove all the front trunk items this week and see how thinngs look under the gas tank. A few of the wheels are older than the car
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OK, Here are a few more pics that show some more problem areas
Just outside the battery tray area and some small holes on the leading passenger long
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Drivers side jack point
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clearly the numbers are screwed up. why the cars rolled off in numerical order and not the cases
Whats your born on date?? when I got the drivers side door open it had no door jam sticker
andy give me a call if you need the rotisserie
I do and I will!!!
Thanks Thomas
Sixes didn't come with sway bars... that one looks interesting. What is it?
When I take it all apart I will get some photos and see if it looks like an add on. It does look like a stock sway bar like the one I installed on the -4
Thats an H&H sway bar.
Keep the photo's coming
It must be because the guys in germany would not have installed like this. When you said it was a H&H swaybar I knew I smelled a RAT. Notice there was no backing plate used
Cleared out the front trunk and removed the windshield. This was all removed before at some point only to spray this textured coating thats coming off in huge flakes. it was the same stuff they used on the floor boards.
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Ut ohhhhhhhhhhhh... Hine's is gonna love this project.
Jeff! Oh Jeeeeeeeff!! Hurry... come look. Before dinner!
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Is that where the factory mounted the washer pump?
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You guys tell me but Im thinking so
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I don't recall from my six. I'll let other weigh in.
I'm going to put a pump in and Glenn is going to sell me one of the -6 washer fluid tanks he's hoarding (actually he sniped it out from under my nose and I'm fairly certain he feels guilty about it)
Just curious...
they even painted over the VIN plate. Its looking pretty solid with mostly suface rust. Yes I'm poking it hard to test the rusty areas
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Had to give you another shot of the Rat. He was behind the winshield washer bottle. Hey Joe, Do you want your rat back???
Stinky
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Dude no more rodent pics. Yes the rubber plugs is the factory six washer pump mount.
The orange -6 I had and sold had a mouse family in the longs around the heater tubes.
Hope all you had was a rat.
Andy I would get the thing blasted and etch primed and you will have a great start.
thats the plan. I have a soda/media blaster for that. Now where's my cup gun
Looking good Andy! Almost ready to blast!
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Thanks for the info. Now I can fill those screw holes along with that slot. It had nothing passing thru it and was covered with duct tape. What are people thinking when they do this stuff?
so here is my oil tank and I'm ready to take it to be hot tanked and cleaned out. So for those of you that have been thru the process whats the best aproach ? I plan on sending it out to have it copper plated again before the re-paint.
It has a little surface rust but not anything deep and the inside still has a nice coating of oil so I think I'm OK in that dept.
Thanks,
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Well these were going to go on my 72 -4 but now they will sit waiting to go on the -6 car.
Thanks again to Al Reed!!
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ohhh....that gives me a weird tingly feeling on the inside!
Scheel seats are being redone finally and I've always wanted to know what was under the skin and foam
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hand made frames, Time to blast and paint them. More pics in the next few days
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Now I do not have to take my Scheels apart to see what they look like. My bottoms have the webbing missing on the bottom too. Somebody used bunge cord and a piece of carpet as replacements.
the webbing was there, just been removed so I could sand blast the frames. they were worn out for sure but will be like new soon
Blasted and painted, Pannels are coming together
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Andy, did you sand blast and paint the frame or did your upholsterer do it? Is he going to reuse most of the foam or is he using all new foam? Looks like they're going to turn out really nicely!
Dan
I went by yesterday for some pictures and saw the suface rust. took them home for the blasting and paint and returned them today. They would have done a quick sanding and painted them but wanted to get it all off. They are shaping all new foam to match the original pieces, everything will be new but the frames.
Dude,
Tthose are some sweet pics. any chance you could take some measurements or some photos with a tape measure in the shot for scale?
Project is looking good!
Jim
the seats are done in back in the car
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The seats look great.. I have a pair that need recovering. I had them done a couple of years ago with a suede center and don't really like them.
Who did these and would they do another set,
Bob
I'm freaking out. Thanks to you know who? "at least I know" I have real steel for my six car
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Part numbers...
914.503.905.00.GRV
914.503.906.00.GRV
914.503.907.00.GRV
914.503.908.00.GRV
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Looks like you were jumping up and down for joy Andy! That rocks!
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Hey Andy!......This is great!!! I've got to come by and check it out!!
ED
Well I finally tracked down a 79 3.0 big port euro motor
Was reported it had one bent valve and the tear down tells the rest, ordering 9,3,1 Mahle P's and C's and a coil on plug ignition kit. engine will return as a twin plug with dowle pins and boat tailed.
More when it returns from the machine shop and it looks a little cleaner
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SCHWIIIIINGGGG!!!!
and the Car is almost ready to go to media blast. Full speed ahead!!!!
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It's a 78 Euro and it will be carb'd so I dont think I'll need either but I'm no expert
Wow!! Great thread, love reading them...at first I thought the car was pretty much not even worth saving but after seeing some other pictures its not really that bad in most areas. Hope you get the fenders and rear trunk area sorted out. I wish you all the best and you are already making excellent progress and I am jealous of many of your parts, that NOS dash and those polished wheels and euro lights are so cool. I hope to see the car finished and regular updates here in this thread. Cheers
Now I need to get some work done on my car this spring
Well I finally got some pictures of the engine back from Ollie's machine shop
Enjoy
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looks great
What cams are you planning ?, Those piston wont allow much of a cam or compression that would warrant twinplug.
thanks, I need to ask my buddy again on the re-grind of the cams. 9.8:1 + twin plug. why do you say its not warranted? you wont hurt my feelings but I'd like to hear the Six Guru's take on the subject
Isn't that the main reason to go dual plugged? To allow you to take advantage of the higher compression ratio? I suppose you still have the limitations of pump gas though, especially here in CA.
9.8 you,ll need twin plug, just curious on the cam,
It will run sweet with twin plug. You have all the bells and whistles for sure.
Looks great, Andy!
really pretty Andy!
the case was decked as well and like I thought the cams will be a re-grind to early E. Remember, I'm running carbs. Where do I get the Carb. spacers that reduce heat transfer from the heads?
Twin plug also solves cross burn delay across the cyl. and allows some Adv. timming in addition to helping with possible misfire "SIBT". I'll still be able to run pump gas and its a street car not track and it will still go down the road plenty fast. No. I wont race for pinks!! the Dyno will show what the results are
Jeff's building a similar engine for me and I think I've decided on Mod-S cams from Elgin. After talking with Dug I think I'd like to keep my intakes at 36mm though. I had 40's on my engine and, while it was fun when it was "RIP'n" it hardly had enough low end torque to get out of it's own way.
If it is a street car as you say... watch your ports.
3.0 is going in the 911. It will be a MFI motor. S-Cams and MFI and... that's it. 36mm intakes on that as well.
2.5 is for the 914
assembly started, sorry for the crap cell pictures
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Well after a rough few months of work, fathers trust I'm caught up and thank you Ron for helping get Joe's engine out. Sorry for the delay Joe!!!
The car is back from media blasting and I know i have alot of work ahead of me but it's better than I thought it would be!!!! I have all the skins needed and of course the flares so were off and running and hope to supply a steady stream of progress photos.
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I may just be able to save the floor pans
Can you give details on the blasting? Media, time, cost, did outfit come to you or did you bring to them, what's next? thanks, mark
it was and walnut shell blend, looked like some fine silica sand. I delivered and picked up and it was $1400.00 I dropped it off last thurs. but with rain on friday I asked them to wait until Monday to start. It was ready for pickup tuesday. The company is AFCO in Gardena.
cutting and trimming began last night in prep. for in the stiffining kit and rear quarters/ tail section. Then the pass. sill/rockers work and floor. It will be at least a week before its time to mount the gt rockers and valance to line up the flares
Looked like more than soda since rust was removed.
Just my opinion but I don't think the rockers and valences have anything to do with the flare positioning. The flares are structural to the body and become part of the body of the car and should be fitted to the wheel opening. The rockers and valences are trim pieces and should be fitted to the body of the car. Again, jmo.
Nice...
Looks like garnet from the bits I saw on the floor pan.
Keep going!
Wow , The tub looks so much better all blasted.
Pretty straight forward from here.
Andy are the pinch weld seem that pass along the rear shocks on the underside straight ?
I have seen with the smallest of rear end damage they can get a curve in that section.
Not knowing how bad the back was from rust or accident damage. Just curious.
Jeff
It was an accident and it wasnt. the PO before Joe of course, cut the rear and corner pannels off and not in a pretty way. it all looks strait but will be taking measurements to verify its in spec. Then the door and chassis bracing goes on and on the rotiss.
A little cell phone clip picking up the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_AcuqG3wCQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
and a few shots while they blew out the media
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looking for the site with the chassis measurments please
thanks in advance!!
http://www.914world.com/specs/bodydims.php
http://www.914world.com/specs/underdims.php
God I love this place I should have type measurments for GT flares. I can only find pictures but no mearsurments for proper placment
Thank You Sir!!
The back edge of the front flairs line up with the back edge of the stock fender and the front edge of the rears line up with the front edge of the flairs.
The fronts need to project forward so the wider tire/wheel combo don"t catch the front corner of the flair when turning.
It is also the safest to have the rockers at the same time to adjust as needed.
Armando's site is a great reference, here is the seam ;
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/112146544
so trimming of the rear section for the donor parts begins.....
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a bit more trimming and install the engine lid and deck lid for fit and alingment
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prep on the jam for the donor rear fender
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and the jack point Ohhhhhh FUCH this is gonna be a bit more work
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and some of the bits ready for the scrap yard, the first two pics show the rust around the where they injected foam into the rear section. I will be removing mine and rustmort it.
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not a bad day of work and seeing behind the jack point was a bummer but I've seen worse fix in threads here.
Question, a few holes I.m not sure are factory
1, driverside headlight bucket. PO work I'm thinking
2, front driverside trunk. PO again?
Thanks
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I almost forgot, look what I found in the glove box that I couldnt open until the dash was out. Sweeeeet
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Head light bucket holes are definately PO. Flatten a piece of copper tubing and clamp it in for a backer and weld those up.
cool trick, I will use it while wearing my Area 51 Works welding jacket
At least there wasn't a family of mice in the long Like a -6 , I SOLD.
Andy, I dont know your wheel plans , make sure you have equal room R & L for down the road, My car , to put the 15x9's on with 245/50's x 15's took a considerable amount of rework/paint on one flair to get them to fit.
Well I got a few boxes of goodies yesterday and opened them today. nice stuff and Thanks Tangerine and RD
I think another Restoration Design order is going to be needed!!!
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Back to the shop for some more. almost all the trimming done for the rear section and lined up with the deck lid. some work on the sail pannels maybe next
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More work on the tail end and a pic of some scraps
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looking thru pictures from this weekend, interesting to see some of the inner structure like the trans. support bar where it connects to the inner fender.
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Question to the group...
I had every intention to use the factory -6 engine mount for the 3.0 motor. Will I ever be able to really drive the car hard or will it fail? options on reinforcing it or just order a coversion mount
should be around 240hp
Thanks
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WOW, that ate up some time looking at those pics
Thanks guys!!!
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what rear stiffening kit should I get, the one for the rear wheel wells. Engman or Welt. What have you used and liked?
Thanks
Thanks and it looks great!! spent some time looking at your work but didnt know you fab'd them
Awsome car
Both headlight bucket and the drivers side trunk floor-to-wheel well are PO f'up's.
Rich makes this kit (a914guy) for the back half
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I think I will make all but the trailing arm part out of 1/8" as Ajserrano recomended
found NOS long parts, listed as passenger inner, lmust be outer to with no holes and ribs but need confirmation on left side and what end the jack point would be on.
thanks
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The rear section is now part of the car and look what was under the sill repair
lots planned for the long weekend
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I'll be watching over the weekend. There should be several projects getting bumped this weekend!
well it's finally here, one number off from my COA. I at least have a period correct case and the parts to put a correct -6 engine together
finding one so close to what is said to be in the car from the factory is amazing alone I think
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Nice welding !
Thats my buddy's welding skills, Yes I could have done it but it would have been alot more grinding on cleanup or a hole or two to fix.
That's Cool . CoA's can be wrong on these Numbers. My CoA said 4418 ( not far off from you), but the car came with 4444. There was no reason or record of changing it.
I wish I had kept that Un-number'd 914-6 Case I had a few years back. At least I know it went into a Real -6
I know a guy that has two unstamped Mag cases but he's not great at following thru so I went this route. He refered to them as replacement cases.
Back at it today, In order to keep cross contamination from the rotiss. to the car a little cleanup was needed.
Yellow for safety of course. You did'nt specify color Joe
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hope to get some more done tomorrow, I did pull the trigger on the NOS outer long and sill so waiting on that and more exploring before I place another order with Restoration Design
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Ahh...a -6 I completely understand now Andy! Impressive work! Keep it going...hopefully we can drive these cars to "Teenergetton" if it happens.
Bob
the sill and rocker came in today and the Engman kit and looks
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the passenger side engine ledge was poorly fixed and braised in so it will be replaced
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the drivers side jack point was not as bad as the pass. side and a shot inside. Just arond the jack point and solid either side
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waiting for the rear quarters before finishing the but lineing up nicely. Alot of progress for a holiday weekend and some more tomorrow. I'm really enjoying this resto and inching closer to driving my dream car!!
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So with the longs open.... what have you used to treat and convert the surface rust inside of the longs?
I want to seal things up before closing up and keep it from rusting from the inside out especially since I will be running heat. I prefer a product that hardens/ dries completely to make welding up easier and strong.
thanks in advance!!
putting the sail under structure back together, glad I had a few parts cars
We need a new smilie name sparky that is using a grinder
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more after work progress. the drivers side will be a bit easier
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WOW
The car has now been sealed but in the process it exposed a few small holes the console on the pass. side has one on top and a bunch on the bottom so it will get replaced.
That means the pass. engine tray will have to wait. it will be interesting to see how bad it is behind the mount
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bottom edge for the sail area was made since the break is in the shop. A liitle more grinding to flush the welds up
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And with all the dents and a PO that jacked the car up from the floor pans I think they will go as well. It will be alot of work to get them right and be easier and cheper to just replace.
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Please post pics of the inside of your console when you remove it. I bet it is nice and crusty.
The suspension floor pans and console are on order but I will get lots of pics of the removal and the inside to show its condition.
More work on the longs and prep for the jack point. waiting for Eastwoods frame rust converter and sealer before it all goes back together.
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Andy,--(Socalandy)
Beautiful workmanship I really enjoy reading the progress report every time you post. I am amazed how clean your shop is????
Merry Christmans to you and your family & don't work too hard over the holiday.
Tom
Thanks but most of the cred. goes to my buddy Kent!! He's the true metal master and his clean shop, I'm helping when and where I can.
Way to go Andy! Such a huge project & we see so many of those go unfinished. You are making great progress on it. Your big project I think really makes people reconsider a project. It is pretty daunting dealing with so much rust. Seeing someone else do it is inspiring. Heck I have a 73 that is in much better shape than yours. The hell hole is bad to be sure. More metal work than I ever wanted to tackle. Still I haven't brought myself to get rid of it. Once I learn to weld I may just take the plunge .
Anyway big time Kudos my friend. I can't wait for more pics
Very cool Andy! I can't wait to see more progress and it gets me excited to start my progect.
Dude your project rocks,keep the photos coming
So back at it today and lots of goodies arrived. Spent several hours with the air hose and vacume getting out left over media from blasting and preping the longs for the Eastwood rust converter/sealer. It really flows well and the fine spray nozzle gives a nice 360 deg. fog.
Stop the rust in its tracks!!!
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the green stuff is the eastwood converter that ran out and got wiped off, it covered way better than expected and flows into every little creveice. We drilled a few holes to treat enclosed areas. This cars internal areas are sealed
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time to close up the longs and attack the suspention console
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That looks great. How many can/s did you use? I'm thinking of doing my longs & rear suspension.
How well do you think this product would work using the stock openings?
I only drilled two small holes that will get welded up and I think it will work very well other than the longs, not very much room from the oval holes inside of the longs with the heater tubes in the way.
With the longs open for the repairs we were able to use ridgid wire and get the spary tube all the way to both ends of the longs . With the floor pan being replaced I didnt treat the tunnel or the fire wall areas since it will be open with full access.
I would not try it on a painted car unless you plan on a repaint. it travels around too freely and I think it will bite into a finshed coat. FYI, with the presure in the spray tube it will continue to spray for 3-4 seconds after you stop depressing the nozel on the can!!!
I order 5 cans and only used 3 so far. all areas treated got two coats and the longs got a 3rd for good measure
I've torn apart at least 5 914's and have never seen this threaded insert/hole used for anything They are not on the repop floor pans
Any help???
Thanks in advance!!
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something new learned
Thanks Andy
what a load off my shoulders to have the longs cleaned,sealed and closed up and then on to the console and battery tray with less worries.
The point and shootcamera is at the shop but I will post pics showing the steps later. The after shots with the Nikon...
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into the engine bay. Did the battery tray on my 72 so no big deal other than a little fitment but really impressed with the quality and fit of Restoration Designs Console needed no tweaking
still need to cut off the fuel press. bracket
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now for the rust pics. The inside of the console was loaded with rust scale and you will see some rust holes and a few cracks
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I'll get the pics off the other camera wednesday but I glad to have this replaced. Now to descide on how to reinforce both sides
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Great work Andy! Nice to see so much progress. Keep it up
here are the pics after the console was removed and the jack point on the drivers side. Time to hang the doors and get the rear quarters on
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Thank You Mr. Shea I cant wait to get my rear GT calipers and some more
Awsome work
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I know cell phone pictures suck but its all I had. should wrap up assembly of the P's @ C's and cams tomorrow. Sunday will be more work on the car
For those that have flared cars Im running16x7 and 8's and need so advise on tire sizes, never had a car with different offsets front to rear, thks!!
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wow 100% dili's rare but trick
So the jack points and engine compartment all cleaned up and sealed, still need to modify the engine mount and order/install console stiffiner kit.
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hanging the doors and gap to line up the sail pannels and get the rear quarters on. Lots of measuring here and using my 72 for comparison.
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to avoid warpping the front and rear lids they were stripped using aircraft stripper. The battery tray area was in bad shape but Im happy with how it looks now
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getting closer to adding the flares and this is a good door ding hidden with bondo
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back to the engine assembly. Heads, chain housings and cams inching along on all fronts and hoping to be done in time for the RRC
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I'm up for lunch and I'm sure a few more peeps will want to attend
Go man go!
Working with my friend Craig at his shop, He built my 2.0 in my 72 and is walking me thru the assembly process step by step. I like to do everything I can and learn this flat six engine. Setting the cams last night was different than the small block world I came from and way more precise when you use a dial indicator to set the cam timing
I'm having a blast!!! and the wife said she missed me last night from the day job to one of the shops to get work done. Tonight I start removing seam sealer in the front of the car and a Tahoe trip soon to keep my better half happy
Snow Please
See you at NAMM! I have a 2:00 meeting with Roland at 7400 Thursday then dinner Thursday evening with them.
I know this is a rough placement of the flare but the thought is to fill the sections above the flare to the drip channel and in front of the flare to the door jam to make less work instead of welding the complete narrow body section and then cutting out for the flare. Anyone have thoughts or advice on this?
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a few more pics of the engine and I had the valve cover done in a wrinkle finish and block sanded the letters and now I plan on doing the same for the lowers
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Sweet Wrinkle
Thanks for lunch Andy
Thanks for lunch Andy
The double thanks, you sick bastard....
preparing the jams for the rear quarter. everywhere there's a joint there's more rust
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trimming rear quarters and removing seam sealer. I see the importance in removing with all the rust living underneath
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I am sorry but I just can't seem to understand this system, the build is amazing. There was a mention of the third seatbelt holes only being on early models just wanted to know how to really confirm age of car.
This was all the feedback I got and from that info would assume all cars with the fixed passenger seat would have them.
lower valve covers were a bit of work milling them down, then out for the wrinkle finish and the grain sanding the fins but I'm happy with the look.
Last step in selling my 72 was get the stock seats redone since the Scheel's go in the -6
Glad I bought the roll of basket weave!!
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Hi Andy
This is a real test to your motivation, and your killing it Really nice to see you taking the time to save this 914 and bring it back to where few of us believe they should be, in the front of the pack
The stiffining kit is installed in the rear wheel wells and around the swing arm console and is recomended for larger motors. this pic is of someones conversion.
As for the the coating from Eastwood I cleaned out what I cound reach and sprayed it in. Here's a paste from their website...
Internal Frame Coating destroys rust hiding inside the chassis, so it doesn’t rust its way throughYou spend time and money restoring a chassis...but what about all that rust inside the frame? Use our Internal Frame Coating to make your chassis rust-free throughout!
•Tough phenolic resin penetrates, converts and encapsulates the rust on the internal surface
•Zinc phosphate seals it to prevent future corrosion
•24"-long tube with conical nozzle reaches in to spray coating in a radial pattern for complete coverage
•Covers 10 sq. ft. per can
•Fully cures in 24 hours
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Thanks for bring the stuff by Andy, the car is coming along nicely.
Thanks Joe!!
Some more progress with the stiffining in so now the rear quarters can go on next
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So the passenger side quarter is on and the drivers side is tacked in and its looking like a complete 914 body
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Looking good Andy! Making good progress.
Anyone seen this area dimpled like this? Maybe for the wiper motor. most likly a PO did it but I want to pound it back into shape even know its behind the dash and I dont think it was a factory adjustment
Thanks in advance!!
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Well after seeing some other build threads it was clear that someone beat on this old girl for some reason but its fixed.
Then it was time to sexy her up with some hips!!!
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I dont think I will need to add spacers in the rear
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front pass. side ready for and the sail pannels are close to done
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inside rear flare and the support tabs, Now it's getting exciting and cant wait to get to driver side flares on and start some body work
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Nice...
Factory flares are So smooth...
I would get some tires on your wheels before paint,,,,,,,,Eric Shea,,,cant fit shit under his flair..
Just Sayin..
Looks like a clean slate. I love it.
Searching the site and google for the answer to...
Is this shifter really for 914-6 only???
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I am looking at the slot behind the shift lever and saying yes (hand throttle).
What about the longer shift rod and it is bent back at more of an angle. I was told it was -6 specific but never seen a -6 wih one like thiis
OK; another bit of data in the bank. Thanks.
My baby has new shoes and off to the shop tomorrow to check for clearance but I think I'm good from my measurments.
Toyo Proxes4 205/55/16 up front and 225/50/16 in the back
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Those should be fine. I'll be running 245/45/16's in the rear & 225/45/16's up front. Now finish those damn flares . Looking good Andy! Your really under the gun to drive that to Route 66 though
So nice to see this car being brought back to life!
Passenger side flare is on and checked the fit with tires. Perfect in back and I may need a 1/2 - 3/4" spacer up front.
I wish I had some weight in the car to see a better ride height . This weekend will be both fronts and finish welding.
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A little more work after finding some more rust in the front fenders, worse on the pass. side and wasted the lower channel. so the front flares are on hold til this is done
lower channel fab
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rear flares are completely welded and ground smooth. All I do these days is think about driving this car
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Sweet! Those look very nice.
Well the flares sure look nice in raw metal but now after the prep and primer I cant wait to see them in a high gloss canary yellow. I was worried about the sail pannels from the start since they were so bad but all the trim fits perfect. Thanks to my buddy Kent and Restoration Design !!
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Looking good.
Nice work!
Too bad no one can find the molds for those factory flares. The tops are so smooth compared to the wrinkles in the aftermarket pieces! They are gorgeous!
Wow, those look great!
Awesome thread !!!
more work on the passenger jam and sill
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POST #914 this only happens once
on with the front flares.
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Lookin good Andy!!
Looking great!! Great metal work!
good good good super job in this car !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am amazed at your attention to detail, this is gonna be a great car!
Fantastic work, Andy!
The last flare is on finish the a body work on it and get it on the rotiss. for the floor pan replacement.
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its a powdercoated wrinkle and they charge the same price as regular powdercoating, Thanks!!
final welding on the last flare and I'm on the couch like Tom Cruize
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very nice ....you be rolling in cash?
Wow, I can't wait to see it with some paint!!
looking good!
what did you grind the fender welding down with? flapper wheel? what grit?
(i'll be embarking on this task shortly...)
Beautiful work. Looking forward to paint!
Amazing work!!!
the body work on the flares is done and it's time to build the rotiss. and get the pans replaced.
Engine stands are sweet so its time for some metal and bottle jacks. Also I had to see one side of the car with it's shoes. Pinch me
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I Cant wait for paint. I'm thinking 2 stage like I did on my 72, Anyone have a picture of canary yellow GT side profile? I'd like to photoshop my wheels on it to get a rendering
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hello Group,
I purchase some 944 3/4" spacers for the front and it kicks the wheel out perfect for the flares. Thats alot hanging out there with the stock spacer already, Am I safe to buy longer studs and go with it or is there another stronger/safer way to go
Thanks in advance!!!
the passenger sill is done and primered rear quarter.
I remember reading about the cost of materials for building a quality Rotiss. from Mr. O'Brien and how correct he was. Scratch the build as I bought one ready for use. picture's tomorrow
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hope to have it on the rotiss this Sat.
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This is really looking good, Andy!
so its finally on the rotiss. and ready for floor pan removal it took a bit of work to get it mounted
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Thanks for all the hard work Andy!!!!
Getting close to the end of all the metal work and should be cutting a path for GT cooler lines Time for some progress pictures
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Pans half way done
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Aha, Found the other pics of the long repair to show more detail
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Wow, car looking great, love the previous shots with the Fuchs, are those 15's or 16's ( I know you showed them before but too lazy to find). The factory 930 has about a 1" spacer on the rear hub with longer studs, you'll be fine with 3/4" spacers and longer studs.
That's a great looking rotisserie, wish I could stop the spending on the new dd and focus on the p-cars... I really miss my 914, these threads are so inspiring. You're pretty close, im on south oc, if you really need a hand let me know and I'll make some time to lend a hand.
Thanks,
they are 16x7 and 8's
We are getting close and I've been having dreams of it painted and driving the car
Andy,
This is a great thread, thanks for posting everything. Can I ask you where you got your rotisserie? And are you planning to sell it after you finish your 6? I'm up for buying it from you if you are.
Gary
Thanks for the nice comments guys!!! I'm living my dream with this car and have many here to thank for helping make it possible and getting it done.
I ordered the rotiss. from Summit Racing and if my buddy passes on buying it your 2nd in line since its was purchased for this project alone.
Thanks Andy. Don't scratch it or anything, just in case!
Nice!
Good to see you are saving it!
You'll be done before I get close to completing mine....don't let it stagnate!
We have a complete floor again, next are the seat reinforcement strips
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the jack points were hammered and this repaired area under gas tank the was swiss cheese
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Well its been awhile but back at it after my buddy Kent broke his hand that closed the shop for 6 weeks.
Great to get back at it!! Finish work on the pans and prep for the last of the stiffining kit...
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cutt the plug holes and need to notch them for the locking tabs, Front hood is close to done
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It was great to get the car on the rotiss. but cant wait to get it back on the ground. No more rust please
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wow, oil lines monday, and some cheezy templates, cut once.
I am impressed that you went to the trouble to do the plugs. It is that kind of attention to detail that will set this car apart - great work!
The last of the rear suspention supports are in
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Next will be the GT engine mount modification and backing plates for the sway bars
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Hello All. I'm looking for a good picture of where the oil line suport hook should be so I can get it back in the correct position
Thanks in advance!!
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I have 9 more pix of the oil line hook. From the pictures you can see a slight curve from top to bottom, I think in order for the oil line coupling to fit properly.
you can see the slight curve from the top. The clearance at the coupling is minimal and would not fit if the hook was completley straight.
the curve is exaggerated because of the harsh lighting, but the end of the hook curves back slightly
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this shot shows the slight curve compared with a straight edge. I was upside down taking this shot and suprised this one came out as well as it did
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this shows the slight curve at the end of the hook towards the rear of the car
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the edge is highlighted by the flash, but it does show the curve again
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this shows both curves and the relationship of the hook to the oil line coupling.
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this shot shows the oil line coupling and the clearances again. Of course, there is play in the line when you move it, but the coupling fits nicely within the curves surfaces.
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wish this one turned out without the glare, but it shows the end curve of the oil line hook.
Hope this helped a bit. Keep up your restoration posts, they're fantastic and inspiring. Sorry for all the undercoating in the pictures, this car was delivered and driven in Germany for a few years and they covered the underside in this thick goop. I'm almost afraid to scrape it off for fear of the car falling apart!
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WOW, Thank You Sir!!
That is enough to remove all doubt
Thanks Jeff and Eric
Holy these are nice!!!!!
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notches for body plugs cut and stop dimple hammered in, e-brake tunnel. Time for the seat mounts
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more progress after a trip to see another 914. Yep, with Kent working on 914 #2 for me he has picked up this addiction V8 Conversion 72 and I will make sure he adds it to the database.
Bottom edge of flares cleaned up and body plugs fit sweet.
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flares are rock solid!! The dent in the bottom of the pass. side long was pulled out and back where it belongs
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Carbs are finally done Please ignore the manifolds, I'm resizing the clean set to the larger heads.
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and picked up some powder coat this morning. Time to start putting the front suspension together And Kent made some progress at the shop with the engine mount
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Looking for a confirmation on if this is the correct oil return line from the engine case so I cant have the rest of the lines made?? The bends don't seem quite right and ones a bit longer
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Thanks, I'd seen these and some others on the GT site and that's what started my question. You can see they are similar but have different lengths mainly up front where the nose cone mounts to the engine.
I wish there was a P/N on it
resizing the intakes to match the 3.0 heads. I'm happy with the bit I'm using, it will take less work getting the final finish I want to end up with.
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did some mock up on the front oil cooler so cutting can begin and got the rear sway bar mounts on the car. Slowly chipping away at the list
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rear deck lid is ready for final prep. Kent did a great job getting this back into perfect shape again!!!
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Started the oil cooler install
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Nice looking car and the work is top notch! Cannot wait to see this car done and driving.
Nice work Andy!! Thanks for sharing!!
Andy,
You have probably already seen this picture but I thought I would post this...
This is what an 8.5X16 looks with 225.50X16 tires on AA flares. Your factory flares don't have the flange on the inner arch. Mark had to trim my flares to fit these. You should be just fine...
Great build!
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Thanks Rob, Looks awsome!!!
been awhile on progress pics, the car is almost ready for final blocking and sealing and all the paint has been purchased. still a bit of seam sealing and undercoat it so color is about 3-4 weeks out now
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Oil cooler pan and shroud
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the goods with the canary yellow to be picked up next week
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Wow ....... looking great !!! If you dont mind me asking ....... what kind of primer have you been using to this point?
I will have to ask Kent but its a urethane based primer that woks great applied to bare metal. My color is single stage concept PPG and he had goose bumps when we got it
Thanks man!!! I will finally be putting my flares on in the next day or two and and wanted to prime any bare metal as it arose.
Canary Yellow sounds awesome BTW ....
Andy, did you the math on those louvers? I always thought the exit wound was suppose to be 2-3x the size of the entrance wound.
Thanks Guys!!!
Looks like another row of louvers are needed and up size the others.
I was debating a down facing fan on a thermostat for the chance I get stuck in some hot traffic but the space is tight and I think it would screw up good air flow? I'm still running the cooler on the motor so I think it's over kill. GURU's??
I would imagine driving intent would have a lot to do with it but, I would not want heated air hanging up by the cooler
Well my travel fest is over and time to catch up on things, Oil cooler routing was done this weekend and need to download pics of that. Getting very close to color
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really happy with the new floor pan's, allot of work but worth it!! The whole car has been blocked and the color match looks dead on
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Your car looks awesome! Why do yo still have the door bars on?
Lookin good Andy.
Wow! That is looking great!
Very cool Andy! I hope to one day to be able to invest the time and money that you have into your project - you clearly are doing it the right way.
I really dig the Canary yellow, and you will be really happy with the PPG. Its expensive for a reason!
You're doing some nice looking work Andy. Keep up the momentum! I love yellow!!
Andy, look into cutting the drivers side 1/4 panel above the jack post for the oil lines. Check my Facebook album for details. I'll try to post some pictures when I get to a pc.
ok, no sawzall but cutting occured. Again a big thanks the Jeff Hines and Eric Shea for the installation input for these awesome oil lines!!!
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another step closer to paint.... Maybe what else will pop up
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I love those lines!
you never know what the day will bring First was my buddy that went to Germany for vacation and he got me an NOS -6 owners manual I need to find my used one, I dont remember it having the VW Porsche verbage?
Then home before the sun went down and started the stiffening mod on the swing arms and then got a little crazy and bought a flex honer and finished the intakes
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Nice job on the mani's,
front closing plate mailed.
USA manuals did not have VW Porsche logo on them. It is a ROW version of the manual. Later reproductions had VW Porsche logo on them from Porsche.
got the oil line brackets Thanks Jeff!!!
And got them mocked up. After welding up so many holes we made a few more for the emblem...
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two holes to weld up where a 1.? or 2.0 emblem was I bet based on the spacing someone can tell what it was but I'm not sure what car the tail section came from
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Andy, I think you need to raise your rear bracket.
I cant raise the top line any higher so I was going to have a buddy add a bit more bend, Did I not clearance something some where?
yes, just give it a tweek, it wont kink.
If you wanted to finish off the chassis holes, you could use one of these products.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=electronic%20chassis%20edge%20protection&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.devicetech.com%2Fproducts%2Fwire-protection-grommet-edging.htm&ei=c86WUIGuAsmziwLCmIHAAg&usg=AFQjCNFFRIeRj9FNR6s12KFpUcfg4S8DNg
Tom
Hey Andy !!
I was at Ralph Meaney's place today with a shopping list of sorts, and I did a bunch of machine work for him and his partners, Anyway I thought of you when he pulled this out of the deep archives. Want It ??
Trust me there is no other -6 parts,
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Thanks Tom, nice looking edge protector!!!
A big thanks to Jeff, another part I can scratch of my list. I had to move my welding work into my courtyard today after the jack hole across the street got bent outta shape Glad I have the cart with wheelsfor the welder and bottle. I hate HOA's
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Nice welds dude
Thanks for contributing to Ralphs retirement fund..He appreciates it.
Looking good Andy
Before you paint or powder those, grind the handbrake adjustment tube flat on the wheel side as well. Depending on how you want to deal with the caliper/rotor offsent, you'll need as much room in there as possible for the caliper.
You can put a 4.5mm spacer under the rotor hat but that will eat up a little clearance and, we can usually use all that we can get.
That leaves spacing the calipers back with washers and they can hit the lip of the adjustment tube (you can see the lip sticking up past the weld on the factory tube).
Just a heads up...
Or you could buy 916 rotors.
Yup... Around $250 each, not that bad actually.
So you like the ride better without the rear sway Eric? Based on all the great comments in the -6 suspension recommendations thread I will be ordering 140lbs progressive springs and adjust full soft to start on the Koni's.
These came today
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I'm no expert on aerodynamics, but it would seem that the raised portion of the louvers should point downwards with the opening towards the back of the car.
That way the air under the car will create a low pressure zone at the opening thus helping the hot air to exit.
Your current configuration seems to block air exit instead of aiding it ...
Grinding is perfect. No need to grind the others.
Also... I with the Sir on that one
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Thanks Sir. and glad this was noticed before paint!!! looks like I'm going for the big opening like your GT Eric
I'm glad I don't have to grind down my welds and the cred goes to my buddy Kent as I've learned a lot from him. I didn't tell him the first tube weld was crap due to me forgetting to turn on the bottle
Ground it down and started over I really enjoy the welding!!!
more suspension parts back from powder coating, I know.... front spindals are not green
the body is blocked down to 220 with another guide coat and few more rounds to go. lots of tedious sanding but looking super smooth
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Its gonna look great... Blue right ??
you mean Adriatic Blue
Very impressive !!!
What's the target date ....of her unveiling
Here's the worst spot on the tank metal wise and look the the sandy grime inside the tank
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Is the full level where my arrow is on the dip stick in the middle ? no stamped lines on dip stick
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lol
Thanks again Ralph and Jeff
Kent added braces to the front flares on the trailing end and block sanding down to 220 is done. Fixed the stripped threads for the drivers side swing arm.
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new threaded insert welded in
Kent has finished the first of his custom flares on his car
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Looks like he deleted the door handles too. Fun
Any updates?
The last and very wet coat of primer, then 320 sanding and sealer
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easier to see the lines wet and before another guide coat
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Looks nice ............
Hopefully I'll be there someday.
Loving it. I can't wait to be able to look at pictures of my car in primer after all of the metal work.
Thanks,
I got the oil tank back from the boys at Pacific Oil Cooler service and man is this thing clean inside and out. Thanks to Joe O'brien for telling me about them, they do a great job on coolers and now I know they will referb. tanks too.
now its off to the chrome shop for copper plate and then powder coat.
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Almost time to blow color !!
Now that the world didn't end we should have color on the pan,wheel wells, interior and engine compartment before the new year.
I did wrap up the oil tank and opted to use high temp paint instead of powder coating it. Got one little run while shooting it but know one will see it. I want to get a coat of oil inside to keep it from flashing and need some recommendations on what to use that wont contaminate the oil system later. I'm thinking regular motor oil would be OK but will the oil film stay put over time?
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Put some motor oil in it and turn it over every once in a while.
That's what I was thinking but thought there might be something better. I didn't like the suggestion of using WD40. Really didn't think that would be something I'd want in the oil system
Undercoating today Sorry... cell phone pic. More later
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Lookin good Andy! That is really coming along. Keep up the great work
Looks good in seams! What are you using?
Thanks guy's. Color tomorrow and here are pics not taken with a cell phone
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First time I seen your restoration thread Andy. Truly amazing craftsmanship! Really enjoyed reading it, and looking foward to seeing it through completion. Love the nos parts you scored as well.
last group, assembly is right around the corner
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Andy, isn't that fun?
What a milestone! That looks so good. I can't wait to see paint on mine.
Looks fantastic, Andy. Get it done by April 5th and join us on Route 66!
Sweet!
I had better send you the engine mount
Wow, looks great, love the progress thread and craftsmanship! Keep it going!
Great talking to you yesterday Andy... That looks great! We'll do lunch when you come up to Tahoe.
Awesome job Andy!! Congratulations!!! It's all downhill from here!!
Car looks wonderful... Not sure if you are familiar with this one that has recently come available...
Not positive it is canary but you will get the idea...
http://www.maxted-page.com/cars/car-details.aspx?id=236
Thanks for the great comments!!!
back to the shop and unwrapped my present and got some pictures with the Nikon and sun flash to see the color better. I cant believe it has yellow on it, It's been a long haul to see point.
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Now THAT's what I'm talkin about! We kept the bottom of my car (and the tire wells and the engine bay) black, but it's interesting to see the other perspective with yours being painted yellow like that.
Next thing you know Shea will be painting his bottom Yellow
It looks so good in black but the factory definitely painted over the seam sealing and undercoat so that was the obvious course to take. Next will be to put the suspension back on the car and off the rotiss, I know Shea's GT wheel wells are yellow
Wow! What progress Andy. Always a special day when it get's color
Ready to start on mine once your is off the rotisserie?
I'm so jealous.
Some day.....
Beautiful Andy. Congrats!
So I'm cleaning up the rack and would like to flush it out and and some fresh oil in but need some recommendations
Thanks in advance!!
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This if from a post in 2003 I found in a search. Whats inside the rack now is a light grease thats black in color. I think its just really dirty but the rack moves smooth with no slop/play
Andy,
Beautiful build, I love the smell of fresh paint. Now the fun begans with assembly. Keep posting.
Waiting for more paint pic's.
Tom
There's an Elephant in the house Bearings and ball joints are in and waiting to hear back from Rebel on correct P/N for Eibach 140lbs springs for their coil over kit. Should have it on the ground soon.
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Time to get her on her wheels again Some of this is coming back off again for plated parts and the coil over kit. Mainly to get the rest of the paint finished
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the long haul to a fully painted car is almost here
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That looks awesome.
Andy,
You are doing a great job!
Hey Andy, why didn't they just paint in while it was on the rotisserie? Just curious.
Suspension is looking awesome!
Tip: (for the next guy reading this) Put these on with JB Weld before powdercoating and have the powder coater tape them off. The JB Weld will withstand the heat of the powder oven and the end will be finished...
More... MAN THAT"S A GOOD LOOKING CAR! We gotsta cruise together with the yellows!
Nice job Andy! That's looking very nice.
No cover for the steering rack coupler???
Otherwise way too nice, you're making us all look bad!
nope, just got her on wheels for final paint. It all comes back off. Also missing shock covers, torsion bars and look at those old tie rod ends. I have some jack stands if it will ease your pain
Be VERY careful in final with the suspension. Overspray gets EVERYWHERE. I'd feel better if you had a different suspension for paint.
Beautiful job on this resto. I feel like I am watching "overhaulers"
Doors back on and adjusting gaps. Push it outside in the sun for a look and it started attracting bee's
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DUDE SO VERY RIGHT ON MAN!
Car is looking killer, hurry up and get that car out of there so my car can be worked on next
Love seeing all that Yellow!!!!
Good work !!!
Damn Andy, that thing is sweet. Looking forward to the finished product.
Looking good my man.
Damn! that's yellow. Love it!
Thanks Andy! I mounted up my new lower valence today. It was good seeing you again and catching up. Let me know when you bring that yellow beast to Tahoe and we can run them around the lake!
No Problem Rob!!! Back from being out of town. Doors and front and rear lids mounted and gapped and ready for final seal and paint.
cell pics replaced...
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Finally more updates! I have been getting a little twitchy waiting for something new.
gaps looks great and nice to see all the panels on the car!! Drivers side rocker was 5/8 shorter than the passenger side and needed some help final paint, color sand and buffing should be done by months end
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That thing is BRIGHT!
Looking forward to seeing that body painted.
More paint laid down on the inside of front and rear trunk lids
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Andy, this is one of the best threads going! I love seeing this car come toghether. Truly inspirational!
That paint looks delicious!
Looks really good!
Andy, are you wet sanding after paint?
Andy, are you wet sanding after paint?
without a doubt, color sand and multi stage buff on the exterior of the car. This paint lays down so nice by itself and cant wait to see it color sanded and buffed out!!!
Hurry Up Damnit!
Sorry Man This is a nights and weekends project. I wish it was full time, it would be done if it was.
I love that you are doing the paint as nice as you are doing ever other part of the project. I am getting ready to repaint my 74' I have just a few body touch ups and then I want a fresh look of metallic silver. Everyone thinks I'm nuts but I want it to look as nice as the day it rolled out of Germany! Keep up the good work! You make us all proud to be owners.
Really looking nice! Seems like every little nut and bolt is polished on it. Going to be a stunning car.
Who told!?!
So Eric will talk you into the nap roller paint job for authenticity
More rocker shaping and glass work, plaster back fill poured in to retain shape if grinding back broke thru. these things still need some work but getting there.
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Looks like a great fit!
Are you going to run a flared rear valance too?
We are fitting one and will be painted satin blc withe the others. I'll just take it off when Shea is in town
final block sanding today. Sorry, just cell pictures
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Final wet sand and let the paint fly short rear valance is being modified to fit the flares, rockers are done and front valance fitted.
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Andy your Project Rocks man!....I need to get a ride once your done..
Amazing progress Andy, especially from seeing what it looked like at the start
wet sanding done and sealer and paint this weekend. She's got her high heels on and time to bag the belly and suspension.
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I can't wait man
Ready for the full dose of yello! Bring it on!
Great painting weather this weekend.
That’s going to be a beautiful car!
Looking good Andy.
OK... we're coming down to help wet sand!
Wow! Great work!
Eric sure helped get the sanding wrapped up after a ride in his bad ass GT, then Kent wrapped the car for sealer and paint. sealed today and It will be Yellow tomorrow
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I cant contain myself long road to this point and ready to start bolting on the parts
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Anticipation.....................
Man would you paint that sucker! I can't take it anymore
I've got to see that yellow on that car
This is exciting! Best of luck!
Thomas
Damn, you even mask, well......good luck with the color!
My calendar says its Tomorrow Already
First coat but its a cell phone picture
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Far out Andy! Looks awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing parts installations!
Finally color! I want more
I passed on reading this thread some time ago, because it was lengthy.
Today was my brithday, and treated like royalty all day, so I started at the beginning and have been mesmerized to this very point!
Most of you know that I am an asshole purist, but that ends with this six. It's been built the way one would be built today. The craftsmanship is truely remarkable. The focus, from the beginning, is really inspiring. Devotion to the focal point is unreal, yet Andy is more than willing to get the input of experts.
From the early search for correct NOS parts to now, the final paint, is impressive. We all know that this is a no cost spared resto of what many would have junked years ago. It'll be worth its wieght in gold when finished.
The metalwork is next to none.
Extreme job Andy! I love it, but it should be red.
Pat
one more cell pic and nikon shots in a bit. the color in these photos is off due to yellow overload
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It is a much sweeter shade then Wills or Shea's Nice , I think my 70 is the same shade
Andy good to see you today at the show. The car is looking great!! I love Yellow on 914's!!
Your future is so bright
Those pics look fantastic! What color yellow is that?
Andy,
I just read through the whole thread yesterday. Comparing the pictures of the car at the beginning to now, it's amazing how far this car has come along. Excellent attention to detail and such dedication. You and Kent should both be very proud and happy with the results. I had to show this thread to my wife, especially the pictures of what you started with. She then sat down and read the entire thread. The 3 of us met in Ouray and chatted briefly (looking over your car) the morning everybody pulled out of town. We're looking forward to watching it all come together!
Thanks!
From the beginning to now is one helluva transformation!! I love the color. Tell Pat to kiss your I do understand why some would think original is best but so few are left original at this point. One day I hope to find a good survivor and take it back to original but until then Rock on! It looks great!
OMG!!!
Looks tasty.
You've come a long way Andy. Nice work! Looks like you'll make Red Rock's this year.
Thanks everyone!!!!!!
This was a big weekend for the car. After paint cure time the color sanding and polish will happen and back home for assembly I cant thank Kent from Auto Art Customs enough for all his efforts to get the car to this point and prep the car to get it back into #29 Canary yellow again the way it left the factory.
Again, Thanks from Kent and I for the great comments.
Got to hang out with the Erc's from PMB performance and got my incredible rear calipers in GT spec.
These will get me into the corners, The flat six will get me out Thanks guy`s!!!
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Beautiful Andy! Damn it was worth the wait . That is going to be just incredible. Can't wait to see the reassembly now
I think we are living this resto vicariously through you! Looking amazing !!
Wow, doesn't get any better than that !
That is really amazing. with the above compliments. Well done so far! Can't wait to see it finished!
If this was Pat's car I'm sure he would do one of two things, sell it for a red one or give in and paint it factory Canary yellow. I'm beginning to wonder if my love for Yellow has you guy's thinking it wasn't yellow originally but it was.
I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes
I see a line of cars and they're all painted black
With flowers and my love, both never to come back
I see people turn their heads and quickly look away
Like a newborn baby it just happens ev'ryday
I look inside myself and see my heart is black
I see my red door and it has been painted black
Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts
It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black
No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue
I could not forsee this thing happening to you
If I look hard enough into the setting sun
My love will laugh with me before the morning comes
I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes
Hmm, hmm, hmm...
I wanna see it painted black, painted black
Black as night, black as coal
I wanna see the sun, blotted out from the sky
I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black
Yeah
Hmm, hmm, hmm...
MICK JAGGER & KEITH RICHARDS
please go easy guy's!!!! It's stupid little shit or comments that go misunderstood that create unneeded friction and sometimes cant be undone!!!
your right.. paint it green
That looks great Andy and great job !!!!! Can't wait to see the assembly
pix.....
I always thought it was about the death of a girlfriend ...
Too late, Maybe I'll do the next car green
getting close on the rear valance and saw the car in person since it was painted and got better pictures with my SLR. I should have pack for the night!!! It was hard to leave the shop
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Color sanding tomorrow
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Wow
Love to see Yellow on a Car, car has come a long way... congrats buddy!! Can't wait to have to join up with you to pick up this car so you can bring it home to start putting it together!!
Tell Kent, he did some magic on this car and he will be doing my next few projects!!
Keep the pictures coming
Man that looks so nice. Made me very jealous. Congratulations on such a terrific looking car.
Man, that looks great!
I love the color!
Color sanding began and put the tags back on
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HOW did you put the Karmann tag back on (and take it off for that matter)? Did you silk-screen it, or was it in that condition when you took it off? Looks fantastic!
This is one of my all-time favorite threads. Great work, Andy!!!
My karman tag has no black paint left on it!
Looking back at my pictures and thought I'd show the stages of progress
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Unbelievable transformation!
Andy, you and Kent have done a great job of bringing this car back to life. Keep going its almost done.John
Wow...amazing!
I'm very impressed with the results. Congrats.
Just WOW is all I can say. You saved one for all of us. That car and color is just incredible. I can't wait to see more as it comes together. A first class job
Andy I never driven in a 6........I need a ride dude when your all done
Beautiful job Andy! So much for factory runs. Is the Karman tag new? Looks perfect!
I am inspired!!!
Time for me to get a project car...
Awesome...
John
Do you have a d-jectronic pressure sensor?
Nice
Front section color sanded and polished
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Andy the car is looking great, one of these days I would love to check it out. Perhaps before an Angels game this season.
DANG!... thats gonna be kick ass
I saw this car in person today and this car is Kick-a!@ already. What a transformation this project has done... amazing progress.
Looking forward to "Final-Assembly"... and lots of these
Rock-on Buddy!!
one more pass with 2000 and polish. Thanks again to Kent for finishing the front fender so I could see the end result early. This weekend should wrap it up and then home
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Gonna be amazing!
(already is)
Beautiful, Andy. Can't wait for the assembly pics!
So the body is color sanded and had its first cut polish with a final polish to finish it off. Finished the suspension with the coils over kit and springs and installed the torsion bars.
time to get a trailer and get it home next weekend
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slick
Bitchin!
When's the build party?
The paint is unbelievable.
Andy,
I saw those wheels and I...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY
Doors back on and it's almost a complete 914 roller
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I have a great PORSCHE side script in Green...............JK
The big trailer ride home happened today Time to start getting it back together
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Looks great! I know the feeling, brought mine home like that in the fall. Good luck with the build!
I drove mine home.........................
Looks great Andy. Hurry, September is coming fast!
Bill, love those tires.
Milestone day
Very Nice!
That looks awesome !!!! Keep those pix coming, we're right behind
you
Now that's nice body work !
I don't EVER want paint that good, that perfect. And since I'm doing it myself, there isn't much chance of that happening anyway. Fantastic Andy.
Andy, we can take shifts in the parking lot and be on "Elliot Watch".
So Andy, is there any small stuff you are still hunting down we can help you find?
Very nice buddy, can't wait to see this car done! There are many pictures missing from this thread... so let me help you.
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Time for some building to take place...
Here's some more pictures to show how great the body and paint came out from Kent's shop. He will do my car next
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Looks amazing! Something about yellow looks so good on a teener.
More work on the harness, Out with the original one that was cut to hell and missing the whole rear section. Cleaning the used one I got from Proto31. Thanks Dan!!! Some crimp connectors that will be removed for solder and shrink treatment,
A shot of the dash assembly, I will only be repainting the top and face to and stay clear of the chassis #.
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before and after cleaning and new wrapping. This is time consuming
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New body harnesses are available but they are not cheap.
Very nice and I love the chassis number shot
well I finally got a compliance decal done for my car and the first thing to go on the car since it came home. Still working on cleaning up the harness and dash assembly
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still working on the dash assembly and got the front hood on the car and gap'd today so it's out of harms way. I have the the front and rear lights ready to install once the harness goes in.
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I am so jealous.
Been busy with work but more progress on the harness and installed the sail vinyl and ready for trim. I'll post pics when the trim is all on. A few more part arrived thanks to Jeff Hines and Aase Sales. Time to get cracking!!!
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Ooooo you got that mirror. I'd been eyeing that for a while now. Decent price considering.
Thanks PMB!!! These lines are sweeeeeeet And I had to pull the trigger on these Koni's
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TJB/914 check the part #
That's the '6' mirror, slightly smaller than the '4' and really hard to find as NOS...
Keep up the good work Andy!!
it is an early mirror and smaller top to bottom from later versions and was in -6 cars, not sure about MY 71 and 72 -6 cars? but someone here will
Are the black pre-bent lines Stainless?
PMB has it all !!! these are Green coated steel in the original finish for all 914's through 1976. These also come in tin coated lines for a budget repair and stainless steel for those who never want to do this job again. Pre-bent for every corner of your 914
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Sweet! I see you have a page on your site to order now!
Thank You Eric!
What does it say about me when I find the picture of Andy's brake line set-up from Eric more exiting than the pictures on the Hot Chicks thread?
I know..... I was thinking the same thing. I know I need brake lines for my project and now I know where to get them. Thanks for having these Eric.
well I still need to install the trim but here are some pics of the sail vinyl install. I also had the gas tank cleaned and red coated and its in metal etching primer now.
More this weekend
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Nice to add some more black to balance out all the yellow
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Got a picture inside the tank so you can see the Red-Kote sealant for those thinking about going this route.
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Andy- Your car is looking very very nice. I am happy to see the sail panel vinyl on it. It really is a great look on these cars.
started putting on the sail trim. Tomorrow I will polish the center bar so I can get it all on. I plan on getting the dash frame installed as well.
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Just like your last car.....amazing Andy. Nice work!
Awesome work Andy !!! Very, very nice work.....
Thanks Guy's
3 hours of sanding and buffing and now the battered center trim piece is done. Started with 320 to remove deep scratches and some small dings, then 500 and 800 before the compound and final buff. Now where did I put those clips
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No really, I have 3 of the center trim pieces and none of them had the clips
Anyone have a set for sale?? Checked Pelican and the other usual sites but nothing. Thks
Thanks to Bruce Stone for finding the part number and they are availible from pelican parts
With the P/N it comes up in the part search
http://www.pelicanparts.com/PartsLookup/HTML/914_USA_KATALOG/810-00-print.htm
Still waiting for the clips but Ron and Glenn came thru for me and got a few more things for reassembly.
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Prepping the dash frame it looks like my car was given a name. I think is says Hillary what do you guys see. Acetone not only got all the adhesive off with ease it took off all the black paint down to the primer.
Time to start feeding in some wire
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I'm really happy with my new 914-6 blueprint art I picked up this weekend yes its old and comes with some patina and its time to get it on the wall. I'm thinking the living room but Karen will most likely have it end up in my office
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Sweetness!!! I see lots of Yellow there buddy, just the way I's likes it!!! Great job.
You're not going to finish this car before mine this time around, YOU'RE NOT, NOT, NOT!!!
There has been some prior discussion about the name written on the dash frame. The color in German IIRC...
Looking fantastic Andy!
Zitron = Lemon
Gelb = Yellow
Well I found an amazing set of heat exchangers after buying a few plus the set that came with the car. First pics is what came with the car and will be selling off. Repairable but rough with prior patch work
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Now for the new err set. I'm thinking of having them ceramic coated to protect them anyone done it or have a better option? Thks
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... Do they have to split the clam shells to blast prior to ceramic coat?
Might check with Marty at MSDS about who he uses for coating.
Good score on the exchangers, wish I knew of a good set, so I just went with headers
Took a break from the harness repair and worked on the light buckets. I'm going to try and wrap up the harness tomorrow and start feeding it in.
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Also Got the gas tank painted today and made some felt pads. Fitted pedals Thanks Bruce!!!
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Your project looks great! Love the color!
When I found some used heat exchangers that looked about like yours, I did have Jet-Hot coat them, and it has head up quite well. They did sandblast them, and found another few little spots where the outer envelopes were getting thin, but were able to get them patched before coating them. Didn't have to split the outer envelopes to get the coating done.
However, given their age, even though they look great, I do carry a CO detector in the storage bin under the dash just in case.
Got a few more things done today. Disassembled rear turn signal buckets, cleaned and on, installed mirrors and shrink rapped all the wire harness support tabs.
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In my parts hunting I came across a red engine lid from a factory -6 that still had the foil decals on it. I removed them as carefully as possible and cleaned off the old adhesive.
I installed them tonight, you can see some waves in the aluminum but that's as good as its gonna get I think. I prefer the originals over the re-pops, What do you guys think? Pass or fail
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As long as you have the provenance trail of these decals and the same on your car, it would be similar to a repair done by a certified dealer or after sales service provider.
That's based on old Pontiac concours, not Porsches...
I'd rather see slightly wavy originals vs repops
I like it.
I like originals, very cool
Definitely the originals.
Hey, those stickers and lid look familiar... where did you find that awesome piece? Hummm. Great find for $55 off e-bay, right?
-Eddie
Jealous...
Back at it with some 914rubber products and freshly plated latches. Sealed up the pockets in the window frame since the plugs are warped on don't fit right. Don't want any water in there!!!
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Really nice fit without any glue Thanks Mike!!!
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Latches and hardware plated like new and 914rubber's engine lid pull knob and cable. Didn't even need to trim the length
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Thanks again to Bruce Stone on the plating. Took me two trips with a lot of cleaning and prep but makes all the difference in the final finish. At least the hood springs hold the hood up but their on the 3rd hook.
The wife's happy now that the roll bar pad is not on the dinning room table
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Ever see "The Shining"?
Redrock... Redrock... Redrock.
Andy I'm getting a little concerned at the speed that you are finishing your six build. I'm afraid of severe withdrawals when you're done. Not sure what to do in place of being amazed at the really fantastic story you have presented to all of us.
Any chance you could slow down and keep it going for another couple of years?
Are you installing an emergency front trunk release cable...
no, no, keep going as you're keeping me going !!! Everytime I see your progress,
I seem to work harder over here. Great looking car!!!
So it's my fault you lost 3 weeks of progress Sorry
More progress!!! Three more hours on the harness and just the front truck section to go. First pic is of whats been unwrapped,cleaned and re-wrapped along with removing crimp connectors for solder and shrink. The second pic is whats left and if you can see the crimp connectors in the upper left corner that's where a later front trunk section was spliced in
Maybe the section from the original harness that was in the car will be used for this part since the color coding on the wires at this point don't match and I have a few mystery wires Hope to light the fuse this week
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Still plugin away and got the harness in the car. A few wire to work on for the sending unit and master cylinder but it's in
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This just as hard going in as it was getting it out only I had Kent helping me
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I am super proud of my car but there is something about a full rotisserie restoration like yours and Erc's that is just too much for words to describe. Awesome Job Andy! Can't wait to see it in Durango!
Epic build Andy. Way to "Save One". Love that GT engine mount. Details, details, details. There will be a yellow group shot.
Thanks guy's!!!
I'm doing some things tonight that don't require crawling around in tight places pullin wire
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Looking real nice!
Every night after work I have to get something done!!! A little painting, headlight mech's are in and started on the blower box. Plastic polishes up pretty good
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It looks like a clock for some reason...
This is the bench-mark for my build. I just love this car and the outstanding workmanship going into it.
You're not actually going to DRIVE that pretty car are you?
That blower box looks new. What did you use to clean it?
What's the latest status on this project... any recent pictures to throw up so we call can see this awesome ride as it comes together!?!?
-Eddie
Thanks Guys,
I was on call last week and it killed my progress but this will almost catch you up. I used a green scrub pad on the blower box to knock down the oxidation and then use 3M compound and polished it.
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I have got my hands on a few front trunk cable tubes but they all cracked and then I found out that Pelican can still get them
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Caution... PMB brake lines and cables Thanks again Erc!!!
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Front and rear trunk seals installed. The rear trunk is done except for the carpet and put the jack in.
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Looking really Nice!
Late model trunk pad?
Received my SS fuel lines from Tangerine. Thanks Chris!!! This is my 3rd set but the first with an engine out and I added shrink wrap as another safety measure. 8mm for the 8mm line and 10mm for the 9.5 worked great and went on easy.
I'm ready for a full day on the car tomorrow
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Help refresh my memory on this part please
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Two of those go on the inside of a 73-74 bumper behind the bumper tits. I know this because I'm putting a 73 bumper on a 72 body and had to remove them cuz the front nose panel doesn't have room for them.
Looking nice Andy! RRC?
Looking great Andy!
Make sure you put the small pieces of rubber over those rear brake lines where they mount against those metal tabs. Was recently there doing the same build up... hurry UP and FINISH.
Well I didn't get all day on the car but this weekend will have no interruptions I hope, All the tunnel work is done but the shift linkage.
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Nice stuff Mr
Stunning and I like that you shrink wrapped the fuel lines too. Anything we can do to prevent friction or rubbing or rattling on these cars is worth it in my opinion. I just hope I remember all of this stuff when my car begins its assembly phase.
lots of cleaning and prepping the relay board, wipers and headlight motors and get them installed. Test fitted the oil tank and getting ready to install the master cyl. and the last of the hard lines connected.
I missing the top bracket for my engine mount if anyone has one upper right piece in the 1st photo.
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Hope it all works when it gets power
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got the headlight motors in and wired, now to fish the turn signal wires thru the J tube rubber. Steering column is ready and gauges are next. It's almost time for the drive train
got the headlight motors in and wired, now to fish the turn signal wires thru the J tube rubber. Steering column is ready and gauges are next. It's almost time for the drive train
got the headlight motors in and wired, now to fish the turn signal wires thru the J tube rubber. Steering column is ready and gauges are next. It's almost time for the drive train
got the headlight motors in and wired, now to fish the turn signal wires thru the J tube rubber. Steering column is ready and gauges are next. It's almost time for the drive train
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working on the car trying to find a comfortable position in the car to work from has given me back pains. Yes I'm still working on the wiring but getting really close now. A enlarged color copy of the diagram is helping thanks to Kinko.s. Utility knife for reference.
Engine seal is in, cleaned all my ground points and installed the relay board. Need to refinish the combo gauge but plan to have a triple gauge adding temp and oil pressure installed down the road.
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Nice work. If you don't already have the correct blue/grey braided hose for the master cylinder feed lines shoot me a shipping address and I will send you some. I have ~2ft of it sitting here that I will never use for anything
Andy- Once you figure out the length you will need for your car I will buy an equal length from you, if you are willing to sell some, for my Six. Thanks. Michael
Trying to find a source for the clear plastic lines so I'll only need 6 inches, Then there will be plenty to go around. If I don't find some I may have enough for 3 cars total
Sanded and polishing the window channels tonight so I can assemble the doors. Hard to get a good picture but harder getting all the anodizing and scratches out.
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First piece of glass in the car. I'm sure I'll have some more adjustments as I add the window mech. and glass.
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Andy - What are you doing to the polished aluminum to keep it from oxidizeing?
I don't plan on letting it oxidize and I have plenty of Wenol polish if it starts to. I'd rather polish it than clear coat or anodize them
Freshly color sanded and polished. These take lots of fiddling to get adjusted. need to lower the front latch a bit and done on the drivers side.
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Ohhhh Myyyyy! That is incredible.
I've never smoked, but I think I need a cigarette...
The tubing is Nylon 6 and a milky white, not clear. It jus looks somewhat clear with fluid in it. Look for it at places like McMaster Carr.
Another week toast with being on call and RRC is looking grim at this point but I'm still trying. Got the upper dash vinyl done and the dash out of the box and on the car. Still need to stretch and glue the leading edge and around the defrost vents.
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Finally got my plates in and Back at it tonight and the weekend...
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Andy, I really like your plate choice. Clever.
cool project! Dash came out great
here's the link but beware, it may not be complete with all the details but should at least give you your build date and engine number.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices/porscheservice/ownerservices/certificateofauthenticity/
So not a lot of progress pics but huge progress under the dash and lights/guages Thanks to some much needed help Ron "SLITS " and Glenn From Pelican!!! we wrapped up the electrical checking every wire and testing continuity on Sat. Thanks Guys
Today I finish the leading edge tuck on the dash vinyl and bolted it in. A little brake rotor painting , hung the oil lines. wiper assembly and Yes Erc... Started blocking out my fiberglass bumpers from Getty Design so they can be painted along with the rockers next week. Thanks for the rotors PMB
Still a lot to do
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Time to call Rafino for a windshield
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Andy, what paint did you use on your rotors?
Is this car going to a museum when finished? Auction?
Way too nice to drive!
More bling from PMB installed!!! Got out to the garage after work and set the back spacing to center the calipers. Should have all the brakes done tomorrow and bleed the system
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Ooo! Ahh!
Andy- Very nice. Did you grind down the trailing arm reinforcements for clearance for the GT calipers or did you space the rotor outward? My car will stay narrow-bodied so I can't afford to space the rotor outward.
Andy, I don't remember if your rear hubs are "hub centric" or not. If "hub centric", a 5 mm spacer under the caliper ears is necessary to center the rotor. They don't look "hub centric".
Forget it ... it's a stock six now that the grey cells have kicked in!
No problem Ron, I installed my calipers, lines,spacers and bolted the wheel on only to relize the pads didnt go in... But i did get all four corners done today
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Bleeder on the bottom?
Pretty sure the bleeder and line go on the inside. If the bleeder isn't on the top, how can the air get out?
Yeah, this was the first side and right after I realized the dust shields were not correct for S calipers and took the rotors off and deleted the shields. I did notice it was the drivers side and both bleeders are on top.
I had a few steps backwards today but got it done less the proportioning valve and bleeding
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Wow! I have been away from the World for the last year and just spent the last 20 min on your thread. Having gone through some of the same process it's amazing to see it in pictures. Your quality of work is amazing and trust me in the end it will all be worth the trouble and time. My GT took 5 years and I never thought it wold be done. Badm
Lookin good!
You don't need clamps on the reservoir blue lines. No pressure there.
I don't disagree with Mark, but nobody ever lost their braking when they really needed it by clamping a hose that didn't technically need to be clamped. Mine appear to be clamped from the factory as well.
Doh! Double post.
Nice Andy! Any Updates?
That sucks man...but it will add to the anticipation for us Red Rockers.
Hey mister... what give with providing some updates?!?!? This thread is inspiring me to take on a GT conversion of my own for my little '72 yellow go-kart.
Please don't hold back, we ALL want to see more PROGRESS!!!
Oh, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
-The other 'YELLOW' 914 owner near you...
All kidding aside & to get this back on topic!
PICTURES Andy . Any progress to report? Can't wait to see your car finished
Hey Andy,
Looking good . What's the current status on the 6 ?
I need some more motivation to do some work on my 6.
Take care and keep up the good work.
Brake lines on a restored 911
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Hello 2014, Te holidays gave me some time to get back on the car its getting really close to drive train insertion!!!
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Bruce Stone told me about Evapo-rust, breaks down the rust and wont harm the plastic or rubber bits
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Glad to see you back! I have been missing this thread!
Those window channels cleaned up GOOD.
I may have to rethink my eventual electric windows and just clean my dirty ones:-}
Muffler RSR Sport model and when I read the install sheet it say's "not for street use"
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time to position the glass bumpers and epoxy on the brackets, then off to paint with the rockers and front valance
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I added a WTB post in the classifieds and I'm looking for early door glass, drivers main window and passenger corner in Delour 1
Thanks in advance!!!
What did you use to clean the regulators?
Car is looking
Yay I have been missing this car. Nice to see more work - boy does it look good.
andy its great to see you posting your project again. i'm looking for an exact sport muffler like your dansk...did you source it at patrick or pelican?
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thank you Andy!
What kind (brand) of spray glue are you using for installing your carpet and interior trim?
Anyone use a Mocal unit with their front cooler, looking for mounting ideas in the engine compartment. Show me our pics
Thanks
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Looking good, Andy! Have you been sitting in it making vroom, vroom noises yet?
Windshield and rear glass installed today. is it me or do the lines off the car stand out more with a windshield or I've just been staring at it without one for so long
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You going to drive it to Route 66 . You have 2 & 1/2 months to finish
Oh man... That's hot!
There's a gentleman up the road from our house who owns his own business. He has a small entrance/lobby for his business that honestly was never used in previous years.
The lobby has 2 glass French entrance doors that are smoke tinted with half windows on either side.
A number of years ago he decided to start "showcasing" his hobbies, if not his true loves. 2 different Dodge Vipers (1 red, 1 yellow), A mid-90's corvette, a few different Quad's and some motorcycles of different breeds. The stable is phenomenal after the sun goes down, especially since his location is off of a main road and he's not looking for a high traffic following.
This car is going to scream for that same respect and occasional exposure.
Don't let her languish in a dark/dingy garage, even if you just bring her out occasionally - make sure she sees the bright light when you do.
She's gorgeous.
Dave
Andy - I applaud your vision!
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I don't know how I had not seen this thread before. I just spent two hours salivating my way through it. Truly remarkable and an inspiration to us all.
Andy, my six ran too hot IMO during hot days. I had a front cooler added about this time last year by Auto Assets in Powell, OH. I think it is the best improvement I have done. It ran cool all last summer.
I sold a '73 Corvette in 1976 when I came across a six in an interstate highway, quasi-race. I was impressed. It was yellow, too. Sold it for a family car -- a 911. But the six always haunted me and I am happy to have one now.
Keep going. Can't wait to see it done.
And keep going I will. The early bird gets to put trim on before heading to work
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Route 66 is in March. Would love to see this car in person Andy!
Looking good my man!!! This project has come alooooong way, few more steps to go.
This will be one awesome ride to pull into "Cars & Coffee" on fine morning!!!
-Other 914 owner
Awe inspiring work Andy - your car looks awesome!
Your first drive in that thing is gonna be sweet!
Amazing detail, can't wait to see your 6 at C&C. This will be a show-stopper!
My 70 didn't have the string on the wires at the fuse panel.
Should have the front cooler in tomorrow after getting some AN fittings and line from my buddy Kent, It only cost me a fiberglass rear valance Shea said I cant use
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I also got a puke tank from a F1 car as a nice gift but is it too much carbon for the Six?
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Nice work,.... A labor of love.
gorgeous
More progress, just need to bolt down the cooler to the car after I paint the shroud.
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first time assembling AN fittings so I took my time, hope they dont leak
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finally got a good/tested proportioning valve that was the last piece to the brake system. I'm done in here, Just need to put the engine in. PMB brake lines are spot on!!! Thanks again Eric
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Nice work. Even your vise is fast
I found a part you may need rattling around under the seat in my truck, I will send it to you...
Thanks Jeff
Am I crazy for using blue tape to keep from scratching the AN fittings? I have gone thru a few rolls on this project.
Got a set of E-Brake pins from PMB and the Sway bar is ready to go in
Thanks Eric!!!
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fuel pump and hoses will get run this weekend and set the tank in for the last time. I will have a recirc. loop so with the PMO pressure regulator I can have the remaining PSI feed the return. I also got my ignition ECU programmed today.
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all my outer satin parts get painted Wednesday so time to fiberglass the bumper brackets in place, Painted the intakes and a little polishing.
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Got the wiper motor in. Anyone know where the red wire off the motor harness goes to? my wiring diagram was no help, this is a -6 wiper motor.
Ready..... The nipples for the washer bottle were busted off. Found a T fitting and chopped it for the fix. I think it worked out pretty good.
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I also got the engine harness done, pedal cluster in, basket weave on the dash face and more.
I think listening to the game in the garage working on the car was less painful than watching
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Thanks Jeff!!! You rock and this part is killer. Also thanks to those who made the blue tape comments as Jeff thought I was almost out and included a few rolls
Got the oil tank lines and painted the headlight bezels. rockers, bumpers and valance are being painted. engine and trans goes in on the 21st
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Looks amazing as always Andy! Will we see it in ABQ?
awesome!
Andy it's interesting that you painted your headlight surrounds. Did you try to clean or refinish original white surrounds first?
I painted the bezels since the originals had at least 3 coats of paint and primer on them and when I striped them I could tell they would wouldn't clean up enough for my liking.
As for time spent on the car, there's my time and kent's time but I'm sure were above the 3K mark!!!
Got some goodies in the mail and home for lunch. my rough plan for fuel, filter location and washer pump is in. Back to the day job
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Who does your yellow cad plating ?
WOW! just went through another looooooooooong thread, hoping the car would be done at the end and it wasnt. This says a few things about this group. #1 you do things right the first time. #2 you have the patience of a buddhist monk #3 a proper resto on a 914 is ~3-5 years!!!
Andy, Im in Fullerton and would love to come and BS with you someday. I'll try to keep the drool off the car
Hey, could you back up a bit and show where you are putting the fuel pump?
I can't make out the location.....
Rich
Mr. Bowlsby may be of assistance but the red wire has a jacket consistent with tying into another harness. If it's what I'm thinking, I thought there were more.
Intermittent relay harness?
I'll call you this evening Andy.
Thanks Rich, Always good to think this stuff threw and I welcome other options that don't require cutting or having it somewhere hard to service.
I had to special order the front mount bolt but had to order 5 so ping me if you need one. My cost was 9.75 ea.
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andy, i'll take one. let me know much you need and how you would like paid.
PM sent Car looks awesome!
two more bolts remain.
More progress, taking a dinner break and then back in the front trunk and the flapper boxes and cables.
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This weekend and tonight was the final wrap on the dreaded front trunk I think the flapper box cables are in right I also modified the late dash pad very carefully for the early dash/glove box area . I was able to shave away the foam underneath and the heat and glue the vinyl down into a nice radius to match the other side
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This car should go to Pebble Beach! Except it wouldn't win because it's in far better condition than Porsche built it. Amazing. Re-badge it as "Andy 914"
Wow, Thanks!!! Pebble would be cool but I would be outa place there.
Lunch break dash, installed trigger wheel pickup sensor and set the gap, distributor plug, ported manifolds and working on the engine tins now. this thing goes hot next week
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Hi Andy,
Looking good
Check those dimensions on the emblems.
Tom
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Thanks, Your picture is a better reference than what I used along with a grill I have with the lettering still on it. I just went out to the garage and checked and its good.
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Heat exchangers are ready for the car. ceramic is a little more silver than grey
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Ooooo, so jealous of those heat exchangers!
Amazing build
Those heat exchangers are beautiful.
Will it be ready for the Phoenix Club show and swap meet ? ? ?
I got really lucky on the heat exchangers!!! The story was they were only on the car for three months and then taken off, replaced with headers and put in a closet where they sat for decades dry and safe.
As for making to the Phoenix show, I'll be there!!! As for the car, I'm getting close for sure but still have a lot to do and don't want to cut any corners or rush after everything I've done so far. Id say R66 would be a safer bet for the first event if I can get the time off work. Even that trip is a long shakedown test.
Hi Andy,
interested in the long engine bolt for the six...i will be in
OC on 2/26 Wed..after lunch. Let me know..
Thanks,
Harry
porschesix2003@yahoo.com
Day one on getting the car running. We have a lot to do and hope to have it fired up on friday
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Better than new
Thanks again Rich for your fuel pump input, pulled one bolt for the rack and done
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Awesome build, beautiful six !
Marty
wow...makes me want to restore my car that I thought did not need restoring.
Andy, you know you're supposed to p u l l the trailer, not push it right?
Andy you've set the bar too high! The underside of you car looks so much better than the top side of mine.
Thanks Guys!!!
were ready for engine to go in. build plug wires and some electrical. looking more like a Saturday firing. I good day of work overall.
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this was the location I chose for the coil packs. this is the bottom plug pack and the top is on the other side. So cool that PMB took the effort to make these lines
I'm beat, got hit with the flu tues. night but that wont slow me down. More tomorrow
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today was a huge milestone. I kept thinking about all the members here, Vendors and friends that have made this build possible!!! It's not finished yet but a big thanks are in order!!!
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Andy- Man am I jealous. That looks absolutely awesome. I was looking at the picture in post 980 of the fuel pump and fuel line, is that the correct type clamp? I am sure it must be or you would not used it. I just had heard that on fuel lines the clamp should be the style without the slots so they don't cut into the hose. I bet it is OK because if the cloth covered fuel line, but thought I would ask.
Andy maybe I missed it earlier. I see a side shift tranny there. It is all incredibly clean & beautiful. I went back to see pics of the firewall. For some reason your shift spot at the wall looks funny. Maybe I'm just getting tail shift & side shift mixed up. That looks like a tail shift wall bracket. Is there a custom boot your using to keep the dust out? Hell it's just been a long day & my brain isn't working. At least I can still drool over your car
Holy mother of shit, does that ever look awesome.
took the words right outa my mouth....
more progress, CV's and shafts built and installed, Fuel lines complete along with excel,clutch and speedo cables. Went to mount the oil hard line but didn't have the correct fitting for the 3L case so that will be here on Monday so couldn't continue with the oil lines and exhaust.
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Who does your cad plating??
I never knew Bruce does cad plating. I have seen some parts in the classifieds he was selling that looked newly plated but...
Nice work Andy!
I figured I was mistaken but to be safe wanted to ask the question. Looking just beyond beautiful. Cant wait to see it complete underneath so I can have that picture as a screen saver.
So I didn't get everything done before the show but it was a blast and thanks to everyone that came over and shared their thoughts. Now back to it and get it finished and driving!!!
Got the exhaust on before the Phoenix event and in the tent without a drop of rain.
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so beautiful. must be unreal for you
Looking good there Andy..
Are you not going to run the front oil cooler ?
Keep up the great work.
Thanks,
In an effort to get a running 914 to the Phoenix Club event I bypassed the cooler but it will be connected and used!!! The last few months has felt a bit unreal and really hit me when the engine went in the car
Any chance you will bring this beauty to the Porsche Parade in Monterey?
That is just stunning. I would want to be able to drive it and when not driving it have it mounted on the wall in my home so I could appreciate the simplicity and beauty of the underside of these terrific cars.
I thought I saw a paint scratch, but it was only the lift arm
This thing looks more and more amazing every update.
Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk to you (you were busy as was Eric) but in walking around your car it is just simply amazing. So much so that I drove back to my shop Sunday and kicked my tires...LOL. Great job Andy.......
I've been busy but getting interior things done over the last week. This week the engine will be fired up and take this thing for its first drive in over 20 years
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I went with German Velour carpet. Got the dash close to finished but need the correct radio bezel for my Motorola.
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and got my Hella H4's in. More in a few days with video of the firing
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Looks great.
Do you know if that yellow fog light switch is the original? I thought the earlier cars (including all sixes) had the green emblem for that switch.
-Steve
Thanks, I have the green center for it. The only fog light switches I own have the amber centers.
What am I missing to install these? they have a thin channel on the back side that have glue in them. Thanks in advance!!!
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Andy, my column trim pieces are held in by friction in the small channels in the dash plate. No glue. They can be a witch to get in properly with the dash front material in place.
I'm liking what you've done! Nice looking project. You should be proud.
Andy,
I sent you a pm on the tins.
Here's a few more pics of the raised portion that I spoke about.
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Curse you Andy!!! I always thought my car was really nice. You have moved the right side of the continuum so far off that a lot of guys with 'average' cars now have parts cars!
Wow.
That is the result of meticulous labour!
So fine a swabbie would be proud.
This presents a problem,how can I approach such a standard with my own 14?
I feel humbled knowing that so much more work is on the horizon.
Press on regardless.
Scrape,grind,...
Hey Andy! You can't just pop on here and say it will be running and driving in a couple days then disappear for a couple weeks....
Sorry,
Having what we believe is relay board issues. had a conversation with Mr. Hines and may be on the right track . hope to get on it tonight after work.
Like I said...I have a standing offer of $500 each for each of your "parts cars".
Well the car is no longer a static model. looks like some traces on the relay board got hot at some point in its life. The outboard fuse tabs are very soft but after some tweeking we got power to the CDI connector and turned the key today Still needs some tuning and sync the carbs but it so close to a drive around the block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbKwAjmd2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zHyES2JaO4
Listened with head phones. EDIT: Sweet!
WOW! That is outstanding.
Thanks Guy's
Pinch me.... Huge milestone and my headphones makes it sound like like your there, Over and over.....
Should get it tuned today and clean up the harness before we make some tire smoke
Andy
Absolutely killer bud! So good to see that motor running. Can't wait for the next video of you . Projects this big seem to never have an end in sight. You must be smiling from ear to ear. Are you going to bring it to Tahoe next month for WCR?
Can't touch that sound. Thanks for sharing..made my morning.
congrats on getting it running.
Nothing beats the sound of a 914-6 with a sport pipe !
(6 of em')
I never said I was missing RRC!!! I'm planning on it
That Sound !!
Congrats man. Unreal accomplishment!
Incredible
Andy,
Congratulations...Really nice build..
Well the tuning is done adding a few more deg. of timing and I drove the car and it's amazing!!! Pulls like crazy and feels so planted not to mention the SOUND
I now know why many have raved about a 901 build by Thomas, The shifting was tight and smooth I'm on a high like no other and charging my GoPro for tomorrow to post some video. cant wait!!! Still have a few electrical issues but nothing big. Dead short in the wiper motor and turn signal issues.
Andy,
Your build is awesome! I can hardly wait to see it in person. Congrats on reaching this milestone.
Beautiful... That thing is a work of art! After looking at the last few pages and the photos.... Is your trans painted or powder coated?
Have you got some miles on it yet? Curious if you notice any issues with a painted/coated trans with regard to heat?
Thanks man, your car sounds awesome too..
Steve
Andy you have produced a real GEM. Attention to detail, creativity, fantastic body color and excellent drivetrain...It's a tremendous car. Well DONE!!
Thanks Guy's
Here's a clip running around the shop, Sorry for the engine lid rattle I'll get right on that
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Craig needed to check the tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH_Txzt0M6o&feature=youtu.be
Woohoo Congrats Andy
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DUDE!
Andy Awesome,,Craig even got sideways first outing, Or is that your phone rotated ??
Put that thing away! It's too nice to drive now.
Can't believe it's pretty much DONE! Nice work.
Wow..Congratulations...How did it Feel after all that work to drive it the First Time ??
Thanks everyone!!!
My first drive was a bit of a blur. Yesterday's drive set in better and drove it home the long way today and got a better feel for it and was able to take in the moment. Of course it started to sprinkle but I didn't care. Just kept driving until the running lights went out but signals and brakes were still working. still have some electrical bugs.
Where is the full/low points on the -6 dip stick? 9 quarts in and still not hitting the stick. I'm happy with the ride height on the car, What do you guy's think??
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Congratulations!!! Car is amazing!! Looks like it belongs on the showroom floor with the original window sticker in it.
Andy, my new OE dipstick has an indent, then about 1/4 inch after the indent it has a line with "max" written. My OE six dipstick is somewhere in a box with old parts, but I don't think it had a line or "max" written on it IIRC. I have a 2.2L with stock oil lines. I take 9.5 quarts to hit right at the "max" line.
Sounds like you need to add & check to fill your system. Remember to keep track of how many quarts you add!
not posted in a bit but I've been pluggin away, got the new handles on, heat shield on firewall, wraped up the fuse pannel and cleaned up the engine wiring and installed the air filters
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A big thanks to Glenn for relay board #2, Headlights working, turn signal dissection and fixed, Blacked out the front nose behind bumper, A/B pillars, rollbar pad, seats and belts in. It's getting very close and gave the car a final polish. More this weekend
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Took it for a 60 + mile run yesterday and she's running sweet. 993 pulled up next to me in Seal Beach and we burned some gas and a little rubber on PCH... What a blast
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Tonight's project includes fumes from 3M adheisive I was able to use one complete piece working in sections and some heat. Hope to finish the interior this weekend and then make some fine tuning on the head light gaps. The whole weekend is getting it finished and ready for San Marino and a little
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Making some progress...very nice. I only wish I had the patience to do what you've accomplished.
Congrats!
Excellent! Your car is looking perfect.
for those that may not visit the WTB forum, I'm looking for 8 of these for my roll bar pad. PM me if you got some
Thanks in advance!!!
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putting my H3 driving lights back together after paint. I figured they were a better choice than the standard fogs.
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The back pad turned out great Andy!
I don't think office chair caps wont have the correct texture to match.
more items off the checklist. Thanks to 914 rubber and Bruce, door stays work great and not to bad to assemble, Ouch!!! use a vice when installing the springs. Sills installed, welting on engine lid, sun visors and more
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Incredible Andy! Long time a coming & totally worth it. Love it man
SEX-EEE!! Great job!
Well other than a few small item the car is done and time to close out this thread.
What an amazing trip in bringing this car back to life!!! With highs and some lows along the way the hard work is over and now it's time to enjoy it. So here I go...
A Big Thanks too...
Joe Sharp for giving me the opportunity to restore this car. I truly hope your happy with the result.
Kent Simmons/ Auto Art Customs - Amazing guy with the talent to bring back a car so far gone, making all the corners correct without cutting corners. The body and paint is the first thing people see and what an amazing job
Craig Donaldson/ Image Imports who built my awesome engine!!!
Eric Shea
Ron Meier
Jeff Hines
Glenn Stazak
Rick Ollah
Glenn Sager
Bruce Stone
Edgar Vera
PMB Performance
Pelican parts
Restoration design
914 rubber.com
Al reed Polishing
Americote Powder coating
Patrick motor sports
Asse Sales
Sierra Madre
Ebay $$$
Just to name a few... and to this site and all the members with the help, tips, parts and most of all the amazing comments along the way. You guy's kept me going!!! Sorry If I forgot anybody and if I did and I'm sure I did THANK YOU
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So this means we're gonna see you in Moab in September?!
Outstanding build!
We have truly seen some amazing builds by some extremely talented people who have managed to raise the bar for the rest of us when it comes to maintaining these cars for future generations to see and enjoy. Great work - this is a beautiful car with superb craftsmanship.
Going to miss this Build thread..Your Six Really turned out NICE..I wish I made it to San Marino..914- Take Care,Alan
Trophy worth build for sure...I'll use it as a reference to how "not-done" mine is and what I can aspire to.
Inspirational Andy. Thanks for sharing all your hard work and inviting all of us to see your six transformed into a work of art. I'll miss your thread.
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Yes I'm planning on being in Moab
Congrats on the build...gotta feel good! Looks pretty freakin awesome.
I'm way impressed with this build. From what you started with to what you finished with. Amazing work!
Time to set the ride height and get a performance alignment.
"Epic Build Andy!"
I think you need to post a before/after image here to wrap this up ...
WELL done sir. with SirAndy. We need a "before/after" pronto.
Thanks Again guy's!!!!!!!
I do plan to get the four wheel align and lower the rear ride height to remove the rake. Before and after as requested.
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Wow!
Great work! Time to enjoy it.
I still don't understand why you got rid of the purple tint on the back window.....
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Awesome car Andy! Hope to see it someday!
Clark.
Stunning rescue !
what a great thread. Thank you and congratulations.
Incredible thread Andy. A standard of work by which others will be measured. I am lucky to have been able to see the car in person and witness some of its progress over the last few years.
Now go and enjoy it.
Nice build! you rescued it
Greg
Wow!
Very nice job Andy. 914's look sooo sweet in yellow!
Are you ready for this thread to be moved to the Restoration section or are there a few details you still want to add? The workmanship is a perfect example for future members to review when they start their projects.
I just spent a few hours going through this thread. It was time very well spent. Amazing work Andy, truly inspiring. I am starting a build and the level of your build will be motivation as I progress through each step of my build.
Thanks for sharing your journey with us.
Funny just did the same,wasted a heap of time but I remember seeing this car in its horrible original condition and couldn't resist to see what had been done.
WOW what a rebuild....amazing.
A big well done from Sweden.
Wow. Fantastic transformation. It's almost too beautiful to drive.
That had to be an insane amount of work to make that transformation from where you started to the gorgeous car that it is now.
All I can say is WOW!
Simply amazing!
Jeff B
super D duper so beautiful
The stance on that car looks great. The yellow with the polished Fuchs is perfect.
an incredible amount of quality work. A lot of time and sweat (and money) is spend here, unbelievable. Very nice work.
Unbelievable work thanks for saving a orig Six. I got you name from a friend of mine
that you can supply me with a Federal sticker that goes in the door jam. Do you still do this? You can contact me at bobparsons@cox.net
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