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Posted by: flipb Nov 16 2009, 12:00 PM

Lay it out there. What are you running? Any plans to change?

(If you have multiple teeners, answer about the 4-cyl that comes closest to being a daily driver. If your teener's on jackstands, answer about how it was and how it will be when you get it running again.)

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 16 2009, 12:13 PM

I currently ave dual IDF 44s, and I am going to swap to dual IDF 40s.

Zach

Posted by: underthetire Nov 16 2009, 12:20 PM

I'm using megasquirt. That will go with my rotary conversion if I ever do it.

Posted by: tradisrad Nov 16 2009, 12:20 PM

Factory FI on a 2056 with Raby 9550 cam. MPS was tuned to match the cam. Runs great, drove it to work today!

Posted by: tat2dphreak Nov 16 2009, 12:37 PM

dual weber 40s. but one day when I'm rich and smart I'll do a sweet aftermarket FI with crank-fire distributor-less ignition

Posted by: gopack Nov 16 2009, 12:43 PM

I have dual Dellorto 36s. I have followed some sweet builds using ITBs and aftermarket fuel injection, and i lust after them. Maybe someday, AFTER i get the car on the road for a year or two, i will go down that road!

Posted by: flipb Nov 16 2009, 12:58 PM

I love these polls. Always some surprises. In the 914 ownership poll, I was surprised that having only one 914 puts me in the minority! On this poll, I was expecting to see at least a few folks considering a switch back to FI.

As for me... some PO put a Weber Progressive on it. I'm waiting for Raby's new cable linkage to come out and will hopefully buy a dual 40mm HPMX set from his shop.

Posted by: tat2dphreak Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM

if my engine was stock it would be stock FI... the stock FI is the BEST thing for a STOCK engine. the stock FI sucks for a non-stock engine.

Posted by: johnnie5 Nov 16 2009, 01:02 PM

Dual 40 Webers on a McMark 2056 with a Mallory and an MSD. Curious to see Jake's linkage as well. Running CB hexbar, hasn't failed so far....

Car is running pretty darn good, no plans to change... unless I win the lottery!

Posted by: zymurgist Nov 16 2009, 01:05 PM

Babydoll has stock D-Jet. Motor has Euro P&Cs but is otherwise stock. I plan to keep it that way (with the concurrence of her owner).

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 16 2009, 01:14 PM

SDS crank fire FI and I have a huge 2.7/4 almost ready, but all plans have changed and the big 4 is moving over to the bug and the teen is getting a /6.

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 16 2009, 01:16 PM

What he said

Posted by: johnnie5 Nov 16 2009, 01:19 PM

C'mon lotto!

Posted by: blitZ Nov 16 2009, 03:47 PM

Same here, however, I would like to switch to an aftermarket setup eventually. The cars I have seen with modern efi start and run so much smoother.

Posted by: tradisrad Nov 16 2009, 03:54 PM

Is it possbile to gain more power out of our setup using aftermarket FI? What sort of gain coulsd be expected. Mine runs good, but I think the induction is the limiting factor?

Posted by: fiid Nov 16 2009, 03:54 PM

There's no option for "planning to add an intercooler".

Posted by: underthetire Nov 16 2009, 04:13 PM

Bigger throttle bodies, idle circuit control, timing advance curves, new style injectors. Just depends on how far you want to go. Could be a BIG increase, could be minimal.

Posted by: r_towle Nov 16 2009, 05:39 PM

Stock FI switching to Dual webers...just cause they sound so cool.
Different motor goes with the carbs so dont start whining...I know, I know, and I factored that in.
Rich

Posted by: jsayre914 Nov 16 2009, 06:41 PM

im runnin stock d-jet on my 2.0 and love it

i got stock l-jet on my 1.8 love it too

but i can only fit one engine at a time in there

Posted by: Shade Tree Nov 16 2009, 06:44 PM

I've decided to put the webers on my Samurai so the 914 is going to stay with the dual Dellorto DRLA 40's

Posted by: john grier Nov 16 2009, 06:45 PM

Both of my 914's are stock with fi
One is a 2.0 the other is a 1.7
I like the fi as oposed to carbs.
My cars run fine.
Yeah I have had and driven 914's with carbs and
I did not like them, To me they were to much trouble.
I have enough power as it is.
After all I am not raceing.
If I got a Raby, I would still want fi
If I put a six in it, it would be a 3.0 sc witch is a mfi.
But I have enough fun with my stock engines.
Just my 2cents worth, John

Posted by: ottox914 Nov 16 2009, 10:27 PM

Dual TWM ITB's (from Jake, when they were better than they are today), SDS crankfire EFI, turbo, intercooler. Working on building a better T-IV with Jake, then I'll be back hunting in SSM autocross.

Posted by: craig downs Nov 16 2009, 10:58 PM

Dual 45 Dells feeding a 2270 from a Jake Raby engine kit. I wouldn't change a thing as I'm very happy with this engine and the carbs.

Posted by: Randal Nov 16 2009, 11:00 PM

I'm looking forward to having my little 4 out there racing again. It will be nice to have 100% of the motor available.

Posted by: al weidman Nov 16 2009, 11:31 PM

I've had two 914's, a '73 2.0 silver with the works (I sold them new) and a nice clean '75. My '73 became unreliable about 1979 so I put on 40mm webers, the car still has them and runs great. I sold it to a friend in 1989 and he still has it. The '75 let me down on the way home. Stopped on me four more times after replacing parts one at a time, but not the right part. Not smart enough to figure out what the problem was. I put an electronic ignition and a pair of 40mm Del Ortos on and now I will drive anywhere. The stock FI ran good, it just wouldn't stay running. Al.


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Posted by: ME733 Nov 17 2009, 06:57 AM

....Running 44 webers....that are modified a little.....later next year..I will try some modified solex 40-p 11,s., which I expect will have a little smoother transition from IDLE to ...higher RPM,s.......

Posted by: benalishhero Nov 17 2009, 06:37 PM

I've been running D-jet on my '74 since april and loving it.

Posted by: forzamotorsport9 Nov 17 2009, 11:04 PM

my good 914 is such low mileage im keeping her all stock...BUT the 914 shell that doesn't have an engine might find a chevy 350 or an EJ20 from a 2.5 RS impreza

Posted by: Dominic Nov 18 2009, 02:15 AM

The short answer is Yes, you would be able to fine Tune more power out of the stock engine with modern programmable E.F.I., but you will most likely be limited with the stock cam.

Posted by: Joe Ricard Nov 19 2009, 10:39 AM

44 IDF's with 40mm vents. and several other hop up tricks.

Posted by: Rav914 Nov 19 2009, 10:56 AM

My favorite engine is the 1911 on my '70. I'm running dual 40IDF's (real Italian), Raby 9550 cam, and a Mallory Unilite. I plan on using Jake's cable system once it becomes available and switching to a Triad muffler.

I love the sound of the carbs. If I could make them louder I would. I'm contimplating a GT engine lid so more sound comes from the engine compartment.

Posted by: hedfurst Nov 19 2009, 12:20 PM

dual Dellorto 45s

Posted by: Shade Tree Nov 19 2009, 06:43 PM

Or, put on the 6 inch velocity stacks with 9 inch filters. You'll have to cut holes in the engine grill. THAT will be loud.
On a side note, I just ordered the Dellorto update kits today with the spray bars and jet doctors....can't wait to get 'em.

Posted by: SGB Nov 19 2009, 08:25 PM

Excellent poll. Responses let us see a good picture of the 914 populace out there.

Posted by: flipb Nov 19 2009, 08:58 PM

It's been even more interesting than I expected.

I wonder how representative it is of the remaining 914 fleet...

(And for what it's worth, the counter includes each response... since there are two questions, it shows double the number of responders.)

Posted by: nein14 Nov 20 2009, 07:07 AM

2.0/4cyl with CIS injection and a K26 Turbo

Posted by: blitZ Nov 20 2009, 08:07 AM

Interesting to see that almost half are still using the factory FI.

Posted by: Gint Nov 20 2009, 09:05 AM

I chose dual carbs and plan to go to aftermarket FI. Pprovided of course that the funky little knock the motor has developed between 2.8 and 3.8k doesn't window the case.

The poll doesn't give you all the detail though.

For instance, my car has dual carbs on it because I bought it with a single carb. That had to go and I had a couple of complete sets of 40IDFs, manifolds and linkage. If it had the factory FI on it when purchased, it would still be on there today. But since it didn't come with factory induction and it's a 2056 on a 1.8 case and heads, I want to go aftermarket FI. If it was a 2056 on 2.0 heads I'd probably just slap a factory D-Jet on it and go.

Posted by: buhs914 Nov 24 2009, 03:17 PM

Yeah a PO took off the FI on my 1.7 and put on a Weber Progressive... If i had the money i would probably get FI again..

Posted by: raw1298 Nov 24 2009, 09:25 PM

Will be running weber 40's when installed.


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Posted by: patrick3000 Nov 29 2009, 08:24 PM

What manifold will you use with the Solex P11's?

Thanks

Almost forgot I'm running Weber 44's with the 2.4-4 but already thinking about the next engine

Posted by: Pat Garvey Nov 29 2009, 08:40 PM

I'll stick with my stock FI. Regardless of the negatives proposed by others, mine has NEVER let me down, or even burped, in 37 years of ownership.

Don't fix what isn't broken, if you just want to drive it.
Pat

Posted by: ME733 Nov 29 2009, 10:43 PM

........ ...........what manifolds.?..for the solex 40p11...well I have two types, the first is just your ordinary weber /kit manafold...with new mounting stud holes drilled and tapped . The other is a set of F/super vee intake manafolds... which I acquired many years ago from V/W, s racing department.

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 29 2009, 02:18 PM

Sweet motor/carbs/DTM kit!!! How does it feel in the 914? Can you compare it to anything else. I had some 45 Dels and sold them to someone Jake knows in Australia...since he could use them and I am holding out for EFI once I do a build.

Is the 2270 all the motor you need, or do you wish for more?
Trying to get everything straight in my head so I can budget.

Posted by: type47 Dec 29 2009, 02:43 PM

You need to get a spare motor to build up the way you like it as you'll never wear out the motor you have (j/k ). It's like my white car. I've had it for like 7 years and only put 6k mi on it. At that rate, it'll outlive me....

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 29 2009, 04:32 PM

Good point, you've put more on yours in 7 years than I have. At least my garage is finally done so I can hope to actually drive the cars now (once I clean out the carbs and rebuild the window regulators and door handles)

Posted by: type2man Dec 29 2009, 06:50 PM

I have triple weber 40's in my 914/6 and I just changed out my 40 webers for 40 dells on my 1974 2.0. Gotta love that Dellorto Whistle!!

Posted by: SCV Jan 9 2010, 11:41 PM

I'm running stock L-Jet in my 75' 1.8. It has required a bit of attention due to years of neglect by the previous owner(s) , but I'm happy with the performance of the stock FI when it is working correctly.

The plan is to keep the stock FI working while I save for an upgraded engine. The new engine will be designed to run carbs, since I have a preference for them.

Posted by: flipb Jan 18 2011, 11:10 AM

Thought I'd give this a to see if new members want to add their responses.

I thought this turned out to be an interesting "state of the fleet" exercise.

And FWIW, I originally answered Single Carb... happy to say I've now moved to dual 40's.

Posted by: dirk9141973 Mar 19 2011, 09:57 AM

Happy with duel 40 !! next step is another car 912 1976 or 911 ?? I see no reason to put more $ in car with limited resale value
Why put $ 20,000 in one car when I could have 2 ??

Posted by: dw914er Mar 19 2011, 11:24 PM

stock FI. I have to admit: the (pretty much stock) T-4 still feels peppy enough . Maybe I'll drop a 6 in it, but right now I'm happy with it.

Though, I was thinking about it earlier today, but what do we think will happen for the stock FI guys? I've been slowly seeing parts becoming harder to find.

Posted by: Derek Seymour Mar 20 2011, 12:54 AM

Stock and leaving that way for now. However Eventually I want to use MFI from a BMW 2002 combine it with cam profiled for the track and bump the cc's to 2056.

Posted by: nsr-jamie Mar 20 2011, 02:37 AM

I have twin 40mm Dellorto and my motor is a 2.2L Fat Performance engine with the 103mm pistons and stock stroke, big valve heads 48 x 38 and ported and polished, high performance cam and a 2L exhaust with Bursch muffler...runs good and makes good power. If I had more money I would love to have a Tangerine exhaust and a mallory distributor...perhaps some day I will get these parts and may upgrade to 44mm Webers too...but that depends on the funds...of course I would love to have a modern 6 in my car but I kind of like the 4 cylinder engines and they are fun to hot rod too. Cheers

Posted by: ppetion Mar 21 2011, 05:06 PM

dual 40 webbers, leeping it that way

Posted by: ppetion Mar 21 2011, 10:35 PM

I have the 40's why are you swapping? are 40's better than 44's?

Posted by: eric9144 Mar 31 2011, 09:19 AM

So I'm curious--I'm stock FI as are many of you--Has anyone done the "updated" FI intake from Auto Atlanta or 9x auto that uses the K&N cone vs the stock air box or the fuel rail kits?

And most importantly was it worth it?

Posted by: Borderline Mar 31 2011, 06:24 PM

I am very happy with my new 2366 with the dual weber 44's. I am about 1.5 to 2 secs faster on the AX course!!

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 1 2011, 04:22 PM

Me too..... Just looking at the amount of people using stock FI still.... I am one... when it is running right.....it is great. I just am wondering about replacement parts. Who and what are the best sources for the money?


No hijack intended....and I don't mean to be contentious either. I will carry a thread once I am done re-bulding my stock FI. So far I have followed all of Brad Anders suggestions.....because they have worked.

Posted by: jaxdream Apr 2 2011, 07:37 AM

I for one would like to read what you have done to bring back stock FI .You didn't mention if it's for a 2.0 or other. Parts for a 1.7 are getting harder to find.

Jack / Jaxdream

Posted by: jaxdream Apr 2 2011, 07:38 AM

opps , I E double posted for me.
Jack

Posted by: detoxcowboy Apr 2 2011, 08:38 AM

I am running 3 cylinders on factory FI..

I fixed it last night...

Posted by: ConeDodger Apr 2 2011, 08:52 AM

I am running stock DJet on a borrowed motor. It runs great and is very reliable.

But I will be running Dual Jenvey throttle bodies with Ford Red Top injectors powered by SDS with TPS, MPS, O2 Sensor in closed loop... All this operating a Raby 2432 Kit motor...

Just waiting on a custom Bowlsby SDS harness and we go live in the car. On the stand though... This thing rocks! Here is a little dyno porn from one Jake built.


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Posted by: eric9144 Apr 2 2011, 12:47 PM

@ConeDodger--first off, I'm jealous, second---that may warrant a new thread w pics, sounds like a lot of fun!

Posted by: ConeDodger Apr 2 2011, 02:44 PM

For now, all the pictures of this project are at the Original Customs site which you can reach through McMark's banner ad at the top or bottom of pages whenever it shows up in the random rotation. There is even a video of the cam break-in 20 minute engine stand run I believe. This was on carbs though. McMark and Original Customs has been instrumental in giving me advice, occasionally turning a wrench when I had to leave at crucial points, fabricating custom components, and just generally being 'the angel on my shoulder' making sure I don't veer off the right path. I highly recommend Original Customs...

Posted by: SCV Apr 18 2011, 04:42 PM

Running factory FI here, and it works great for the stock engine. Daily driving duties are split between the '75 and the Beetle. The Beetle is equipped with dual 36 DRLAs. When I've saved the cash, I'll talk to McMark or Jake about a replacement engine for the '75 with dual IDFs or (properly reworked) HPMXs. Fuel injection has clear benefits, but I prefer carburetors with an appropriate cam.

Posted by: BarberDave May 7 2011, 06:11 AM

O.K. on my old 1.7 I have run every carb known to god. Weber 40's seemed

the best. After I get a 2 post lift and some sort of chair,stool to sit on while

working under it. I will buy one of Jakes's 2270, with what ever he recomends for

F.I. and every new thing he recommends' this is to be a very dependable

driver and cruser with very good milage and of course POWER. This will be my

last hurrah, looking for a good 73, 2.0 to start with. An old man with no

limits . ( just time ). Dave

Posted by: Ductech Jul 15 2011, 01:50 PM

EJ22 N/a american motor out of legacy '91 currently running stock efi for spark and Megasquirt for fueling.

Car drove like crap with the necessary mods to exhaust and intake done in order to fit in the 914. SO the megasquirt takes care of the fueling changes.. works quite well.

Posted by: bare 1 Jul 16 2011, 12:14 PM

72 1.7 stock FI for now Cause for now my limited disposable funds are going into pieces of sheetmetal so I can actually drive the darn thing down the road with out fear of it being a flinstone car. Fred must had some calluse's I don't want them on my butt!

Posted by: bernbomb914 Oct 24 2011, 09:53 AM

I run SDS on 2650 cc 4