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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:42 PM

Hi guys, so a little background first if that’s okay, my name’s Brent and I’m an aerospace engineering undergrad student in Daytona Beach, FL. My daily driver (and first car) is my ’74 914 2.0L. I’ve grown fond of the type 4 engine despite its ahem…slowness. Anyways I recently bought a sand rail frame as an impulse buy. I got it mostly complete minus engine for $500, so I ask who could say no to that? I certainly couldn’t, answers I! The plan is to make it street legal so I can cruise the town, the beach, and even do some off-roading. The transmission is a ’66 Beetle swingaxle tranny with a big differential and off-road gears. I wasn’t interested in a gimpy type 1 engine, so I started collecting parts for a type 4 build. My friends call the 2.0 engine in my 914 the “2-Point-Slow”, so I decided to designate this engine the “2-Point-Go!” The exclamation point is actually part of the name, FYI. This was my first engine build of any type. I’ve worked on my 914 a lot so I’m familiar with the operation and tuning of these engines better than any other engine, so I decided to give it a shot. It would be a very quick and cheap build, because A ) I don’t have much money and B ) I want the rail on the road sometime this century. Here’s a few pics of the sand rail. Her name is Lobo. This is because my dad had an r/c car that said Lobo on the side- this car has sentimental value for me and the sand rail happens to look like it. Lobo is Spanish for wolf; I think this fact is also very cool and it was the clincher for naming the rail Lobo.


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:43 PM

Step one was to buy a few core engines and tear them down. I got a complete core 1.8L for free, and a core 2.0L bus engine for $75 on craigslist. Taking them apart would have been more pleasant had they not been infested with giant cockroaches! I used three bottles of WD-40 killing them as they scurried away from the motor. The situation reminded me of that arcade game Whack-A-Mole. Traumatizing indeed, but I finally found a use for WD-40. Here’s some pics of the nasty cores before I realized they had hundreds of cockroaches in them…ick!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:45 PM

I wanted a 2.0L engine, so I decided to use most of the bus engine parts. The internals were in good shape, although the previous rebuilder lost some man-points for forgetting to install half the wristpin circlips. I wasn’t happy with the bus heads or cam, so I went with the 1.8L heads and a Webcam #73 grind that I got complete with gear and lifters for $75 on craigslist. This is a rather mild cam with more lift but comparable duration to a stock 914 cam. I was considering turboing the engine at some point, so the low lobe overlap (8 degrees) would be perfect for boost. The 1.8L heads were superior to the 2.0L bus heads in every way I could compare them. I spent $125 to get them cleaned up, flycut a little bit, and valves ground into the seats. One of the head gaskets had failed and messed up the seating surface, hence the flycutting. Needless to say I wouldn’t be using head gaskets on this build!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:49 PM

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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:52 PM

After taking the two donor engines apart, it was inspection time. The bus case had been align bored (there was an elephant on the main bearing shells and the journals mic’ed out std), so I couldn’t swap in one of the other sets of nice bearings I had laying around. The #2 bearing plasti-guaged in the tolerance range however so I decided to use them…remember this is a quick budget build (I’m a po’ college kid). The rod bearings and wrist pin bushings looked good so I used them as well. After picking parts out came all the cleaning! I probably spent more than 50 bucks on rags, simple green, and carb cleaner throughout the build….and countless hours removing old dirt and oil. Here’s some before and after shots of the 1.8L heads after getting them cleaned up. I also painted the fan shroud like so.


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:54 PM

After cleaning comes measuring and adjusting. I threw the short block together and luckily everything spun nice and smooth. All the clearances looked good…one of the nice things about working with mostly stock parts! Next up was deck height. I was shooting for between 0.030” and 0.040.” Two of the thin metal shims under the jugs got me about 0.037” which I was happy with. I had a set of 914 pistons lying around but I went with the heavily-dished bus pistons for CR reasons. So with 0.036” DH, 15cc piston dish, and 53cc chambers, I’m looking at 7.6:1 CR. Works for me, especially with the low valve overlap! Hooking up the valve train and smooshing some clay on the pistons confirmed I have tons of piston/valve clearance. This wasn’t the case earlier in the mockup when I didn’t have the dots on the cam gear oriented correctly!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:55 PM

The next item to check is the valvetrain geometry. My configuration was sufficiently different from the stock configuration to completely throw off the geometry. I found the half lift point using a borrowed dial indicator to confirm this. I decided that shimming the rocker stands was necessary. Cutting the pushrods would have probably been the better option but I have no way of cutting them accurately or precisely. I bought some rocker shims, filed them to a correct and consistent thickness and bam! Done. Here’s some shots of that and a shot of the 1.8L core engine mocked up in the rail to check for fitment- it’s close!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 24 2009, 11:58 PM

So I’ve checked almost everything, now it’s time for jugs and rings. I got the bus cylinders honed. There’s some ridge near TDC but I’m okay with that for now…once I have more cashola, better jugs will be installed. I got Grant rings ($30), and adjusted the gaps to 0.017” top ring and 0.015” bottom ring. This is a little larger than some folks have recommended, but if I turbo the engine it will run rather hot. Some of the rings didn’t need to be filed at all. They went in really easy and I was happy with the ring land clearances.


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:00 AM

Finally, it’s time for more cleaning (snore!) and the final build (yay!). I got some Loctite 518 for the case halves and some RTV for some select areas. The only new seals/gaskets I got were pushrod tube seals, front and rear mains, valve cover gaskets, and sump plate gaskets. I also got some Permatex Super Slick lube for the cam lobes. This cam was broken in by the guy I got it from. Unfortunately the lifters got swapped around so I’m taking every precaution to prevent any issues there. I wanted to sacrifice a goat or something to improve my chances, but I couldn’t figure out where I could buy a goat in Daytona Beach. Here’s some shots of the final assembly. It went wicked fast now that all the cleaning and adjusting have been taken care of! I decided to install a windage tray in this motor, mostly because I like the word ‘windage.’


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:01 AM

Once the short block was together, I stuck the pistons on. This went pretty well, partly because I had about a dozen wristpins lying around, so I could pick the ones that fit the best. I remembered to install the wristpin circlips unlike the last guy to build this motor. I also paid attention to the arrows pointing towards the flywheel on each piston top. Sliding the jugs on took a little practice. A ring compressor helped a lot! For this engine I decided to go with the 914 style oil filler and dipstick, so I drilled a hole in the case for a dipstick tube (which I got at the hardware store).


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:02 AM

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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:04 AM

Next up is the heads! That’s my brother Greg torquing the head nuts with a borrowed torque wrench (we have no tools here at college other than wrenches, sockets, and screwdrivers). No head gaskets or anything is sealing the heads to the jugs except really clean metal! I’m getting all my torque specs from an 80’s vintage 914 repair book whilst building the engine (finally a place to use the word ‘whilst’)!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:05 AM

Okay, so the long block is done minus the valvetrain stuff (which I’ll do right before firing it off). Next I set the endplay using three shims. I had a bunch of shims lying around so I picked the ones that gave a good endplay of about 0.006.” The flywheel and clutch are up next! To mate a type 4 to a swingaxle tranny requires a few things. First off you need a flywheel from a vw bus because the ring gear offset is different than a 914 flywheel. These came in 200mm, 215mm, and 228mm clutch diameters depending on the year of the bus the flywheel is from. 215mm is the biggest that’ll fit in the swingaxle tranny without clearancing the bell housing, and it comes from a ’74-’75 bus (the 1.8L engine years). I scored one of these on the samba for $25.00. The center of the flywheel needs to be machined out to accept a pilot bushing because the tranny input shaft isn’t long enough to reach the pilot bushing in the type 4 crank. In addition to the flywheel, I scored a new pressure plate and clutch disk from a guy on the samba for $25.00. Since I had an early swingaxle tranny (’66), the throw-out bearing is the unsupported style- it doesn’t have a guide tube for the TO bearing like the later trannies do. So I needed to buy an adapter disk that goes on the pressure plate in order to prevent the TO bearing from getting chewed up. Here’s some shots! The carbs are Spanish 40IDF’s I got used for $200. I rebuilt them carefully with rebuild kits…New rebuild kits (see I buy some stuff new!).


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:07 AM

After dealing with all that, I put on the cooling system, which I’d previously cleaned up and painted. You can sort of see the yellow spiral I painted on the impeller...more on this later!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:08 AM

Now the motor is ready to go in Lobo! Fitting it in was really tricky with it all assembled, but we got it in! The exhaust is an old Eurorace header system we scored on the samba for $200. It doesn’t have the stinger on it yet in these pics. And later we cleaned the rust off with some Muriatic acid…smelly!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:09 AM

Okay, a week later it was time to fire off the 2-Point-Go! This week was spent doing the myriad of random tasks associated with installing an engine for the first time in a vehicle. I made a motor mount crossbar to support the engine, wired up the engine, hooked up an MSD unit I had laying around, doing up a basic fuel system, carb linkage, valve adjust, rough timing, etc etc etc blah blah. I filled the engine with Valvoline VR-1 20W50 conventional oil, and I used a $$$ Mobil 1 filter. Here’s a shot taken right before attempting to fire the engine off. Cross your fingers!!! Like the impeller spiral? Unfortunately I got the spiral in the wrong direction...that’s what too much Yuengling beer will do to ya! Anyways I took all the plugs out of the engine and turned it over, waiting for the oil idiot light to go out. I was under the impression that the engine should prime after a couple seconds or so. After a minute or so the light was still on, so I said what the heck and got the engine ready to fire. The light would go out or it wouldn’t, and I didn’t like turning the engine over waiting for the light to go out…nerve-wracking!


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:11 AM

To end the suspense (haha), the engine started! It ran for about 10 minutes at >2000rpm as I played with the timing, mixture, etc….then……BANG!!! Engine dies. I’m not sure what went wrong but I’m having visions of dropped valve seats, seized bearings, etc. I mess around with the engine for a bit and finally I take the cap off the dizzy, and find that I can spin the rotor freely 360 degrees. Uh oh! Turns out that I hadn’t clamped the dizzy back down after adjusting the timing, and it traveled upwards until it was no longer engaged into the drive pinion. I reset the timing and Vroom, all is well. WHEW!! Thanks for the ulcer, Mr. Engine! Both the oil pressure and generator idiot lights went out so I was 2 for 2 there. Here’s some more pics because if you’re still reading you’re probably bored of reading. That’s not me in the pics fyi.


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:12 AM

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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:12 AM

Here’s a little cell phone video of the initial startup, if I can figure out how to upload it! It sounds much better in person…the Eurorace with the baffled stinger really sounds good IMO. I still can’t believe how fast it revs compared to the 2.0L in my 914!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUVSCZMQqJY

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:15 AM

About a week after running the engine, I got around to setting the timing (8 deg BTDC @ 800RPM) and getting the jetting right (50 idles, 125 mains). Turned out that 55 idles were too rich, which surprised me. At this point I changed oil and filter, adjusted the valves (all were still pretty close), and took her for a spin! I gave her half throttle at 1500RPM in 3rd, and she started accelerating pretty nicely. Right at 2000RPM I was pushed into the seat and the engine sounded great! I wasn’t brave enough to take her above 2300RPM, at least not until I get the brakes working better! I’m not so sure anymore if I’m going to need the turbo! Here’s a pic of Lobo with headlights, directionals, and vintage Cibie fogs! I’ve cleaned her up even better since I took this shot.


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Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 12:18 AM

Anyways, I just wanted to document my first ever engine build. So far I have her tuned pretty well, and there are minimum oil leaks or strange noises. The plan now is to finish up the buggy and get her street legal. There is something to be said for building your own engine- it was a good feeling firing off the engine, and I have a suspicion that I’ll get a bit of this satisfaction/pride whenever I’m cruising around in Lobo. Now that I have this engine under my belt, my next project is a 2.5L -4 for my 914, for which I have all the parts. Way more care and precision (new parts) are going into the 2.5L. Stay tuned for the build thread for that. If you have any comments on this “2-Point-Go!” build, positive or negative, post away!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh91GkN4MR8

Posted by: JazonJJordan Nov 25 2009, 02:15 AM

Great project Brent!

Really enjoyed your work; I have wanted to do one myself and now,
I am encouraged to do one this summer!
Keep up the good work~ -Jordan-

Posted by: raw1298 Nov 25 2009, 03:28 AM

I have a spare 1.7, now I know what to do with it! Great project.

Posted by: DBCooper Nov 25 2009, 05:46 AM

Very well done for cheap. Your engine's so powerful because of that lost weight, Colin Chapman's revelation. And, of course, the good job you did putting it together.

Just a heads-up on that pancake shroud, though. The fan and air intake low on the back sucks a lot of dust and sand up into the low pressure area behind the car and in to the engine. Plan on removing the tins and cleaning out the accumulated soil periodically to keep the engine cool. Alternatively maybe a Joe Cali upright shroud conversion some time in the future. Simple and cheap, and what I like is that to the casual VW guy it makes the engine look kind of like a T1 but 'wrong' somehow.

Posted by: jd74914 Nov 25 2009, 08:21 AM

Nice job Brent! I've wanted a sandrail for a while. :jealous:

If I might ask, do you go to Embry Riddle?

Posted by: Van Nov 25 2009, 08:57 AM

Could you put some kind of foam filter over the fan shroud opening (it'll cover up your yellow swirl...) Would it restrict the air flow too much?

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 25 2009, 09:26 AM

Did you at least get some air filters over the carbs?
Congrats! I bet it will go like stink in that rail. They weigh NOTHING.
Zach

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 10:57 AM

I'm trying to find a good set of air cleaners now. I'm not going to do any off-roading until I have good filters and prefilters, that's for sure!!

I estimate the all-up weight is around 1000lbs including the engine.

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 11:00 AM

I was wondering the same thing...I could get one of the grills they made for the bus, but that wouldn't help much with dust and dirt. It'll be interesting to see how much just passes through the cooling system and out the bottom....

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 11:01 AM

yep, I'm a senior.
It's a pretty good school. And it's within sight of the daytona speedway, which is great for the rolex!

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 11:03 AM

I've heard of this, but where can I get more info?

And do you think it will clear my exhaust?

Posted by: Sleepin Nov 25 2009, 11:15 AM

Very cool write up Brent! Your use of words makes for an entertaining read!

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 25 2009, 05:47 PM

No it won't clear the exhaust and all you gain is losing the stock T4 fan.

Posted by: Jake Raby Nov 25 2009, 06:49 PM

I think I'd isolate the heat from that header before it heats the fuel in the tank.. Heat radiates and that tank is aluminum which has excellent thermal conductivity..

Hot fuel doesn't burn well or tune well and its just plain not safe..

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 25 2009, 09:39 PM

I was wondering if someone would notice that. I put my hand on the tank right by the exhaust pipe after running it for a while and surprisingly it was barely even warm. I've been thinking of making a metal shield in that area to slow the heat down anyways...

Posted by: Jake Raby Nov 25 2009, 10:22 PM

Under load exhaust gas temperatures run at least 1,000 degrees.. Trust me, that fuel tank will soak that heat up and conduct it into the fuel.

Posted by: DBCooper Nov 26 2009, 08:07 AM

That's exactly the point, Mark, to lose the T4 fan. When you pack an aircooled engine's cooling fins with dirt they don't work any more. You've built engines so you know what happens when you get a little oil leak under the tin, even in a street car. I've found cigarette butts and worse in there on top of the heads. It's a hundred times worse in an offroad car, and a thousand times worse when the fan inlet is at ground level sucking in crap that's been thrown up by the back tires. He said there "aren't many" oil leaks in his engine (which is very good for a first go) but there are still some and even minor seepage will attract and hold dust and then allow buildup, so he needs to be aware of that and do some checking, especially in the beginning.

Unfortunately you would have to lose the exhaust. It's really nice and you don't want that, so if I were you I'd just be aware, pay attention to any heat issues, and maybe plan to pull the tins some time in the future to see what's going on. Cali sells a manual at his http://www.nextgen-usa.com/. Basically you use two sets of T4 tins that are cut and pop-riveted back together to make the shrouds over the cylinders, then make a generator stand and use a T1 upright shroud between the two on top. He charges like $25 for the manual (check that, it's been a while) and the rest of the materials you can usually pick up for free from buddies or not much at a swap meet or Craig's List. There are other alternatives, but that's the one for the college student's budget.

You may never need to do the conversion, depending on where you drive, etc., but it's still good to be aware of it, and if you end up having a problem already know how to fix it.

Posted by: orange914 Nov 26 2009, 03:42 PM

cool project! any body requirements to run it on the street?

mike

Posted by: r_towle Nov 26 2009, 08:00 PM

Nice job.
So your almost a rocket scientist....

Rich

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 27 2009, 10:50 AM

6 months!

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 27 2009, 10:51 AM

Nope! This is Florida, after all!

Posted by: wertygrog Nov 27 2009, 10:52 AM

Thanks DPCooper, I'll look into it. Does it fit under a 914 engine lid?