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Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 01:02 PM
I'm going to eliminate the glove box and the radio. My first thought is to get a flat piece of thin steel (like Porsche used behind the center piece of the dash) that extends from the steering wheel all the way over to the right side where the face ends, and cover that entire piece with the basket weave vinyl. Is that a decent way to execute this? If so, is it correct that it will "sandwich" between the dash top and the knee cap piece, as well as being glued? If so, can i slide it under the dash top or does it need to be removed?
Posted by: Spoke Dec 14 2009, 01:55 PM
With the bottom dash removed, these pieces are easily installed using double-sided tape to hold the metal to the dash. Not sure how to attach the metal plate over the radio and glovebox holes.
Why no glovebox? I would assume the radio will go somewhere else or replaced by an iPod.
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 02:06 PM
Might eliminate the glovebox just for "cleanliness". I thought about an iPod, but might just go with no tunes...just the engine sounds. How does the ventilation control unit come out?
With the bottom dash removed, these pieces are easily installed using double-sided tape to hold the metal to the dash. Not sure how to attach the metal plate over the radio and glovebox holes.
Why no glovebox? I would assume the radio will go somewhere else or replaced by an iPod.
Posted by: Jeffs9146 Dec 14 2009, 02:35 PM
Since you are taking everything out, I would put a sub box up there!!! 
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 02:40 PM
I might if I knew what that was.
Since you are taking everything out, I would put a sub box up there!!!
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 14 2009, 02:41 PM
How does the ventilation control unit come out?
10mm nut on the backside, slides out the front. Bunch-O-Wires-N-Cables attached to it as well ...
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 03:31 PM
Thanks.
How does the ventilation control unit come out?
10mm nut on the backside, slides out the front. Bunch-O-Wires-N-Cables attached to it as well ...
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 03:35 PM
Just decided to leave it..makes life simpler, and I figure I need a place to throw tickets without them blowing away. The glove box itself is in pretty good shape other than a coupla holes in the rear on the bottom...forty years of abrasion I guess. Think I may just rough it up...clean it up, and fiberglass over the outside to reinforce it. Not sure what I'll do on the inside to clean it up...maybe glass over it as well, or "carpet" it with some kinda of felt.
With the bottom dash removed, these pieces are easily installed using double-sided tape to hold the metal to the dash. Not sure how to attach the metal plate over the radio and glovebox holes.
Why no glovebox? I would assume the radio will go somewhere else or replaced by an iPod.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 14 2009, 04:28 PM
trust me, leave the vent controls, to me they were a PITA to get out, and even worse to get back in 
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 04:44 PM
They are surrounded by freakin' electrical tape on the face of the dash. I want to replace it with the basket weave vinyl. How do I get the metal piece out to cover it without removing the controls?
trust me, leave the vent controls, to me they were a PITA to get out, and even worse to get back in
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 14 2009, 05:00 PM
How do I get the metal piece out to cover it without removing the controls?
Short answer: You don't ...
You need to loosen the controls (Remember that 10mm nut?) and slide the controls out. You can get it out far enough without removing the cables etc.. as they're a pain in the rectum to put back on there.
The chrome strip is held in by 4 tabs that you have to press down and then carefully pry on the chrome to remove it.
Andy
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 14 2009, 05:37 PM
Gracias...tomorrow's job.
How do I get the metal piece out to cover it without removing the controls?
Short answer: You don't ...
You need to loosen the controls (Remember that 10mm nut?) and slide the controls out. You can get it out far enough without removing the cables etc.. as they're a pain in the rectum to put back on there.
The chrome strip is held in by 4 tabs that you have to press down and then carefully pry on the chrome to remove it.
AndyPosted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 15 2009, 12:09 PM
Either different on a 1970, mine's missing, or I'm blind. Couldn't find any retaining nut at all. In fact, can't find any way the unit is held in place unless it's merely pressed in there and held in place by the dash itself. The chrome trim strip simply had four horizontal tabs that inserted into corresponding slots in the ventilation unit itself. Anyway...no problem getting it out. Just finished using the angle grinder with a wire wheel to clean up the dash and the metal plates that will get recovered. Out to buy trim adhesive and double sided tape. Damn I'm productive! Retirement rocks!
How does the ventilation control unit come out?
10mm nut on the backside, slides out the front. Bunch-O-Wires-N-Cables attached to it as well ...
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 15 2009, 12:15 PM
Either different on a 1970, mine's missing, or I'm blind. Couldn't find any retaining nut at all. In fact, can't find any way the unit is held in place unless it's merely pressed in there and held in place by the dash itself.
Look harder ...
There's a tab on the backside that is bolted to a stud on the front firewall using a 10mm nut. (10mm being the wrench size, not the thread size) ...
Andy
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 15 2009, 01:40 PM
I see (said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw)...on the firewall...I was looking all over the dash back for it and just assumed... 
Either different on a 1970, mine's missing, or I'm blind. Couldn't find any retaining nut at all. In fact, can't find any way the unit is held in place unless it's merely pressed in there and held in place by the dash itself.
Look harder ...
There's a tab on the backside that is bolted to a stud on the front firewall using a 10mm nut. (10mm being the wrench size, not the thread size) ...
AndyPosted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 17 2009, 07:15 PM
Finished product. Damn...I do good work!
Posted by: dlee6204 Dec 17 2009, 07:32 PM
Looks good! 
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 17 2009, 07:37 PM
Much better "live"...can never figure out what camera settings work best for a black interior under fluorescent lights...
Looks good!
Posted by: Jeffs9146 Dec 18 2009, 12:34 PM
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Dec 14 2009, 03:35 PM)
Since you are taking everything out, I would put a sub box up there!!!
Sorry it took me so long to reply, I have been out of town!
A sub is a Subwoofer for a stereo if you decide to add one!
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 18 2009, 01:07 PM
I'd like to be able to just hook an iPod up...no radio...no CD player. What do I need...just an amplifier?
QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Dec 14 2009, 03:35 PM)
Since you are taking everything out, I would put a sub box up there!!!
Sorry it took me so long to reply, I have been out of town!
A sub is a Subwoofer for a stereo if you decide to add one!
Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 18 2009, 01:43 PM
yep, you can do that...
RCA outputs for the ipod to RCA in on the Amp will work.
imo tho, I have a alpine CDA-105 in my DD, I'll buy another for the 914... ipod controls on the dash is much nicer. I hate blaupunkt stuff... there I said it, it sucks.
Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Dec 18 2009, 01:51 PM
I didn't want to clutter up the dash...just plug an iPod in somewhere like between the seats...have everything else hidden.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 18 2009, 04:32 PM
it works but I hate trying to mess with the little screen while driving
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