Hi all i'm coming to the US!! Well me and my best mate are planning a road trip which we have been hoping to do for some years now. We are really looking for sights and people to meet along the way. Our schedule is quite tight with many one night stops but we are hoping to cover as much ground as possible in the 6 weeks we have. Got to see a few 914 on my travels too...
A link of our planned route can be found by throwing this in google maps! (Cant get it to link...)
**UPDATE**
from:los angeles to:san francisco to:South Lake Tahoe, CA to:Las Vegas to:Flagstaff to:beaver, UT to:Park City to:rock springs to:rapid city to:denver to:poncha springs to:pagosa springs to:Albuquerque to:amarillo to:oklahoma city to:dallas to:houston to:new orleans to:panama city to:Atlanta to:Charlotte, Mecklenburg, North Carolina to:Washington to:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to:New york
Any comments on the route and places we should be stopping or staying at (very limited budget!!) would be great. Basics are heading out 2nd March returning home 13 April. Major stops are NY, Chicago, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, LA and Orlando for at least 3 days each.
Cheers,
Fabian & Nick ( )
Welcome to the states!
IMO, you're missing out if you don't come through Colorado to go over the Continental Divide through the Rocky Mountains.
Stop by some race tracks... Lots of Porsche club events!
My family has been traveling the states with the kids for the last 24 years, and we've still not made all the sites! You won't believe how big the states are in comparison with the UK. I think you need to concentrate on some of the more scenic places, and avoid the big cites (Toledo, Youngstown, Chicago). They are OK to drive through, but you'll spend more for everything and may miss some really beautiful scenery in the meantime.
I'd also vote heavily on Colorado. The eastern part is basically farms and feedlots, but the Rocky Mountains are about as nice as it gets. In California, I'd go for the Pacific Coast Highway from San Francisco to LA. Las Vegas is certainly something to see, but don't miss the Grand Canyon!
I think you'll have a gas, best of luck on your voyage.
You're heading home on the 13th assuming you make it out of Vegas:)
Good luck with the trip, should be a ton of fun!
Thanks for the replies and the comments!
One thing we are struggling with is how to buy and insure a car/suv/truck while in the US . Any guidance would be awesome. Our vehicle budget is only $1500 but we are figuring on a Jeep or crew cab of sorts also thinking along the lines of ex cop car as they seem pretty robust. We looking into rentals but at 24 most companies are killing us on the young driver excess...
Cheers.
when in new orleans - do not do not - appear to be a foreign tourist and do not do not stray off of the main areas - this is a dangerous place only a few blocks from the main tourist spots.
be sure to stop by stone mountain in atlanta for the laser light show.
be careful - have fun
jim
Tell us when you'll be in Flagstaff and I'll make a roadtrip up there weather permitting
Have a great trip! Now tell us about your Bugatti Type 35 !!! Cheers, R
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I'll add my two cents:
Best road trip I ever did was with my brother through New England. After the first day, we swore off interstates. Pulled out a map each morning, looked for some interesting places to go, and took the twisitiest back roads we could find to get there. Really a blast. We even figured out how the map designated unpaved roads, and sought them out. With such a robust itinerary, you'll need interstates to get around quickly - but try to go a few days on the back roads instead - you find some really spectacular sites and fantastic towns along the way.
My other advice... if I had six weeks to road trip, I would hit as many National Parks as I could. Cities are cities, but the natural beauty of some places in this country is breathtaking.
You really should try to make a detour through Atlanta to see Automobile Atlanta. I feel sure George would enjoy talking with you and showing you the best collection of 914s in the world.
Youngstown to Toledo you could go right through Ontario, Canada.
Toronto is right along the way.
You should just come to Moncton, eat some lobster, drink some beer and then go on your trip! You guys have a great time, looking forward to seeing your pics posted here.
Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada
There has to be a reason you are going to Souix Falls and Pennington South Dakota. These are not tourist spots although the people are wonderful.
The Badlands are amazing. The people are terrific. Wall Drug is amazing if only for the fact that they promote it beyond belief for what it is. The Corn Palace in Mitchell is a joke. I have a picture of myself standing in front of it somewhere doing an 'I don't get it pose'.
Are you looking for natural beauty? Want to see the great cities? Are you visiting friends?
Thank you so much that is an absolutely awesome write up! I will be adding these points to our ever expanding itinerary....
We are a bit worried about the weather but hopefully we can get a robust vehicle and i think our average of about 200miles on the driving days shouldn't be pushing it. We generally wont be in a major hurry so if we do have to stop fair enough!
Will defiantly have the laptop aboard and will keep in touch with the board during the journey. One and all will be welcome to share a beverage of their choice with us! Hope we can meet and greet along the way... might also look into picking up some '14 bits and pieces along the way , i love how many member vendors their are making parts for our cars.... (oh no this could get expensive!!)
p.s. As the world is always in need of another progress thread i will eventually get round to adding mine..
While in Salt Lake City be sure to meet up with Eric Shea and others who are local. In Las Vegas be sure to make time to see Renegade's operations. Lots of 914 "options" to be seen there. In LA meet up with the NARP (Not A Real Porsche) gang.
In New Orleans be sure to ride the street cars and go to Bourbon Street. The Garden District is great for old mansion viewing. You are pretty safe on Bourbon Street, well except for your liver. I have personally never seen so much drinking going on with out a fight in my life. Watch the girls walking down the streets because they show their titties for beads thrown from the balconies. You don't say when you will be there but Mardi Gras is around that time. The music is amazing. Blues, jazz, zydeco, it is all there. Be sure to go to a cemetary. New Orleans is at or below sea level so bodies are buried above ground. The monuments and gargoyles are truly amazing. As someone has already said, be sure to stay in the tourist areas. Before Hurricane Katrina it was pretty safe to walk around especially in the daytime but the devastation from the hurricane has made for some desperate people who will do things they might not have thought of before the hurricane.
Take a tour at NASA when in Houston. I was assigned for a time to NASA while I was in the military and if you guys are engineers you will appreciate the amazing tour at Johnson Space Center.
You guys are driving I-15 south from Salt Lake to Vegas, via Beaver? You must know someone in Beaver? A must stop and see is Zion National park. Leaving Beaver, you will drive through Cedar City. Between Cedar City and (just before you get to) Saint George is the turn off for Zion National Park. It is only a 50 mile detour off I-15 and back, and well worth the stop. I would highly recommend staying a day or two and doing some of the hikes in the park, such as the narrows...very impressive. March should be late enough in the season for the snow there to be minimal. At very least, stop there for lunch and drive through the park, you guys will not regret it.
I'm halfway between Memphis and Nashville, and have a spare room. We are about 15 miles south of I 40 which is a main east/west interstate, if that works out for your travel route.
You can do a very easy 300 miles in six hours. I did 600 miles and picked up a car two weeks ago using primarily state two lane roads in 13 hours, if that gives you any point of reference.
Wow! What a trip you have planned.
I will put a plug in for Seattle.
300 miles is only 4 hours of driving. So, depending on where you are at, you might want to up that. Like, oh, Nebraska and Wyoming and South Dakota. traverse much at night and wake up to some great views.
Wyoming. Gran Tetons. Devils Tower, Yellowstone.
Utah. Vast beauty. Check out
http://www.utah.com/stateparks/coral_pink.htm
a short drive through Zion National park, then off to Vegas for you.
If I was driving, it would be:
Colorado: I 70 through the mountains.
Utah. MOAB, Salt Lake. Stop in Windover and check out the salt flats.
A night drive through the desert to San Francisco. You won't miss anything.
California, S.F to L.A on the 1 (hwy 1). Overnight in Montery or by Hurst castle.
Pismo beach, Santa Cruz (fish and chips on the pier)
Nevada. Vegas, then a day trip north to Utah again.
Utah for Zion National park and the Coral Dunes.
Arizona. Grand Canyon, Flagstaff then west on Rt 66 to New Mexico. (my wife loved this drive)
I am in Memphis and have room for you to stay if you feel the need to go visit the home of Elvis. Dinner is on me if you make the stop.
Shoe
I am in Hershey, PA where the Hershey factory is. Its a tourist trap of sorts and not far from NYC, Philly, Baltimore. I even have a place to crash, maybe. Need help purchasing a car? I am sure one of us can help. Mini vans are pretty cheap in my area and are recycled often and in good shape. There is also Amish country not far from here if you wanna see how the technologically unhampered live. Too bad you wont be here in April for the largest Porsche only swap meet. PM me if I can be of any service.
Wow.
Thank you so much, i think we will be taking you up in the offers of a meet or place to crash! Our budget is a bit limited but it is one of those once in a lifetime trips before we settle down to our careers so you guys really would be helping us out and it is uber appreciated!
Car wise we are hoping to purchase one around NY as that is where we are starting, insurance is still the big unknown but we have budgeted about $1600 for it so hopefully a few calls today should get that sorted/ outlined. (insurance over here is very expensive if under 25 and works very differently so we'll see what happens
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Nick and i are having another 'trip planing meeting' (read: few beers with laptop +google) next week adding in all these details so there will be a thorough plan added soon!
Thanks for all the input so far!
good luck on the trip- i'm sure we'll have the welcome mat out when you swing through minny-stp.
it would be a capital investment, but i'd add yellowstone after seeing mt rushmore from the window of the car. then across to san francisco and down the pch to l.a. then up to vegas. you could hit beaver if it's vital, then come back down (good luck seeing everything...) to flagstaff and points east.
i would also skip chicago, but the lake michigan ferry's aren't running yet, so speed around... actually speed across the north after leaving pennsylvania/ohio, and save time for california and across to the southeast states.
I getting a bit too excited about this trip now... can i go pack my bags... better not still 2-and-a-bit months away!
Bass Islands in Ohio, near Toledo. Good side trip. Go to the Boardwalk in Put in Bay. Post your pictures, please.
Happy New Year everyone!
Well it's on like Donkey Kong...
Flights are being booked Wed and we will be in the US having the time of our lives by 9th March!
The route has taken a bit of a battering since the original post... Now starting in LA as we have an address for getting the auto insurance (thank you progressive!) and finishing in NY.
Mileage is now 7000miles but planned stay is now up to 7 weeks!
Car of choice is now late 80's Mercedes Benz 420SEL or any V8 variation. They seem to be going really cheap and will make for effortless cruising and fun.
Quite the trip plan!
Just a suggestion, you may want to re-evaluate your driving stretch from Salt Lake through Wyoming, to the Black Hills.
March/April can be a bit iffy with snow and it's looking like your map will take you across I-80 to Rawlins, north to Casper and Sheridan, then east on I-90.
Do you have an alternate route, a "plan B" per se?
Mike
I just missed this thread somehow! It looks like you'll miss the Mall of America in Minneapolis. I was thinking as I was reading this I would drive the Alien down to meet you guys'.
What a great trip! You will love the US. I agree about staying away from the corperate food joints. Find the mom and pop places.
SirAndy:
Yeah, i love the thought of the Merc. I currently drive a 190e over here but it does 30mpg being a 1.8! But you touch on a good point... want to cry a little? Our current gas price is roughly £1.20/Ltr and US price works out at £0.46/Ltr.... Yes, really! Fuel cost is our smallest budget.
Kirmizi:
No current pan b for that part of the route... will snow chains and slow progress be a issue? Any suggestions welcome!
(We are stopping in Park City area to meet up with a friend working a ski season hence the route up that way.)
rick 918-S:
Shame we can't stay for longer or get everywhere but i think if we keep adding to the trip we'll be very broke and won't want to leave! We are already up to 7 weeks from what was planned to be a month away... :-)
Thanks again for the encouragement and kind comments! See many of you soon i hope!
While heading in from the east to SF, might as well stop at Lake Tahoe or Yosemite. I really suggest taking HWY 1 down to L.A. like was mentioned. Takes a little while longer but it's a way nicer drive. Remember, Northern CA and Southern CA are almost like two different states. I wouldn't live in Southern Ca for nothin !
And try and avoid L.A. during the week, and S.F. bay area during commute times. That will add A LOT of time on the road.
As the token Albuquerque member these days (which pretty much makes me the token New Mexico member, though I probably just don't know anyone from the southern parts of the NM), I would like to at least meet up with you folks and perhaps pick up a dinner tab and a pint at my favorite locally-owned (and 914 fan/owner as well as Atomic Ramble 2007 sponsor) brewpub / restaurant.
PM me and let me know when you think you'll be in the Santa Fe - Albuquerque area and I can help make recommendations if needed or possibly even put you up myself, if you don't mind roughing it a bit. (i.e. your own room but on a futon).
Cheers, and hope it's a great trip! Love it when people tour my part of the country!
- Nelson
We do several road trips out of SoCal with our Porsche buddies every year. Please don't miss Hwy 1 from LA to San Francisco. It even gets more beautiful as you go north. Stop at Nepenthe in Big Sur for lunch. Google Big Sur. Your map looks like you are taking Hwy 5 North from LA. Please don't, Hwy 1 will tke your breath away. Frankly, having traveled all over the US by car, I think it is hard to find more beautiful driving than the west coast. Colorado is certainly stunning as well
Just an update on our travel plans (see below).... We will be grabbing a couple of cell phones when we arrive and will share our numbers on here, so if we are in your area and anyone is free on an evening
Looking at some nice roads now and refining the Google auto route maker as it has missed some gems like highway 1... shame most of the Yosemite roads are closed this time of year maybe next time! I like the fact you can use Google street view on laguna seca and there are racecars going round! Anyway, back to it i go... hostels, pubs and fun stuff to sort still!
Hope to meet a few people in less than a month or so! (you can also Facebook me @ Fab Pillay)
p.s. this timetable is not set in stone we will be flying by the seat of our pants most of the time.... but does get us to our homebound flight in time, which is nice!
Dude, you are gonna be 1.5 hrs away from the Hershey swap meet and Porsche show on April 24-25. We have an event that happens at the same time called the Mid Engine Invasion. Last year we had like 30 914s parade in together. There were even more there that were not yet associated with us.
You should consider it being so close. You can crash at my place
As somebody who spent 25 days and 8k or 9k miles on the road in 2009 traveling the back roads of the 4 corner states and the Appalachians - I think you're going to be missing most of the beauty of America. And that your plan will fall to pieces when you realize some places really do suck and you'll want to move on to the next.
What are you coming for? The geological beauty or to see the cities? Or both? 7 days between Alb, NM and Houston? You will be very dissapointed, it's an ugly part of the country. I would drive straight from Alb to New Orleans only stopping to sleep. You're missing the national parks of Utah and the majority of Colorado - a major loss. I spent an entire week in Colorado - and desperately want to go back for everything I missed.
Sorry for being a negative nancy - but while driving across America sounds great, you'll end up missing most her beauty from the main freeways and interstates as you speed from one city to the next.
For researching routes, google the All American roads. There are some amazing drives, specifically the skyway that will get you up into Maryland from the Carolinas.
Bit of both really, don't take the auto Google road map to heart. We have always planned to get off the highway and explore the parks and forests, even the trip to Grand Canyon isn't on the map but we are going there (ran out of destination letters on the Google map thing)!
We are a bit unsure about the alb to Houston bit but don't want to over do it with the driving. Houston is a definite stop as we want to see the space center (being engineers and all!)
Stuff like that and anything different is what we want. After 5 years in one small (tiny by US standards) city for university we just need to explore
Personally... I'd skip the 'Casper' part of the trip. There is better scenery if you head North 16 miles south of Green River, go up through Farson, over South Pass, over through Lander, Riverton, hang a left in Shoshoni, go through Wind River Canyon, up through THermopolis (Hot Springs State Park), through Worland (where I live), then either up through Greybul and over the Big Horn Mountains via Shell Canyon, or go through Ten Sleep and over the Big Horn Mountains via Ten Sleep canyon...
sorry for the run on sentence. =o) The scenery is better up here. the I-80 corridor is long, boring, and windy.
Edit: ...Jackson Hole... and the Tetons. MUCH better than Casper.
If you do end up in Hollywood and would like to visit a famous unique place drop me a PM and I will have passes to The Magic Castle waiting! It is a private club where famous magicians perform for eachother.
http://www.magiccastle.com
We also own a Hotel next door that is clean and comfortable
http://www.magiccastlehotel.com
Jeff
Since you're planning to hit DC on 4/15, you can pick up everyone's tax returns along the way and drop them off when you get here.
Yo Fab! You can both crash at my place when in your in Denver. PM me and let me know if you want to take me up on the offer. We'd love to meet up with you guys regardless. give you some of the local trivia etc... Cheers!
Lunch with The Cap'n and The Lovely Lyn in Santa Maria, 3+ hours north of LA on your way to San Francisco ....................... Santa Maria style Tri Tip sandwiches at a local place, or something else if you're afraid you won't want to leave .............
The Cap'n
I live in Flagstaff and will meet with you. Keep this web site and keep us informed on your travels; Grand Canyon is about 75 miles away (South Rim).
If you are having traveling problems, I can be an emergency connection point, and Move Quik can be coordinated with your traveling. Somewhere the 914World Club has a list of members throughout the U.S. that have offerred to provide connection points. Maybe we can get this information and provide it to our "international guests.
Looks like a very interesting trip and have fun. Looking forward to your travel progress.
Steve N Sandy Hurt
Hmm. I should have said "not far from Dallas" back there, not Houston. Longview is like 5 hrs away from Houston, I think.
Fab...
Where are you guys? I'll be "batch'n" it when you're scheduled to hit SLC. Are you still on that schedule?
Don't stay in Beaver... let's talk.
Hi all, sorry we've been a bit hectic in LA. Will update as soon as we get to San Fran this evening with any luck!
Saw my first 914 yesterday, was quite exciting...
Catch you all later guys!!!
Hello all!
We made it to San Francisco... bet you cant wait to see our $1500 motor... well here it is..
Drove like a champ all the way up Highway 1 and we had a great time hustling it though the curves... We had a flat in LA on Sat which meant we couldn't get away until about luchtime on Sunday... (sorry to those who we were hoping to meet in San Fran Sunday morning) we finally made it after 10hrs with quite a few stops for photos and the sunset.(me on right, Nick on left)
we are off to South Lake Tahoe tomorrow during the day sometime and will be then heading on through to Vegas the folllowing morning...
Phone number is 424-212-1686, need to get some more credit tomorrow but will be reachable. So many ppl i need to reply to... Better phone home too i guess!
Poor hostel internet EDIT....
Still planning on coming through Salt Lake City?
Hello from the east (least?) coast!
When are you planning to make the leg from Charlotte NC to Washington DC? Will you be traveling I-85 to I-95? I'm about 80-90 miles east of Richmond VA (others here are in the Richmond area). If you come through VA on a weekend, maybe I could drive out Richmond way.
Charlotte to DC is probably about 8 hrs, give or take for traffic. Are you staying in the DC area? Hopefully you'll have time to take in a few sites . . . .
Please keep us posted as to your plans and where-abouts.
Best,
Steve A-
Hiya,
We made it to South Lake Tahoe! Moving on to Vegas tomorrow maybe stopping in Yosemite for one night if the drive is tough going.
What a great drive today, car ran nice and the roads were really nice. We took the 50 as it was the most direct route from SF. only one minor problem so far, car is slowly losing power steering fluid but we check it every stop and along with oil and water! Getting pretty good gas mileage too which is nice. A little duct tape has also been added to the interior to add some structural integrity
Pictures to come soon...
We are still ticking along, had a very long day at the Grand Canyon yesterday and we are now taking stock for the night in Cedar City!
Did a great drive today up to 10000ft! The Merc is still going like a champion and to make it even better i used a couple of spare hrs this afternoon to fix one of the electric windows and both electric seats! Our car is now even better than when we got it!
We have has such an amazing time so far. We are heading up the 15 tomorrow to Salt Lake and then staying with friends in Park City for a few days.
I can put you guys to work building 914-6/GT calipers this week! LOL
Looks like a great time!
great thread guys -
COOL!
Lunch in Boulder next week?
Ferg
Gents,
Just found this post, this is awesome. I wish you the best in your travels here in the states. If my car was running, I'd try to meet up w/you around NY. Enjoy and be safe!
COOL! How's your cell phone minutes? Can we call you?
HI all,
Cell number is 424-212-1686 topped up today so call away.
We are heading up Rapid City way on Sat, stopping about halfway before finishing the trip up to Mount Rushmore.
Went down to the Bonnie Salt flats today... lots of water on the speedway! No pics yet as i'm doing photos old school with a film slr... couldnt afford a digital. Also got lost on a 130mile detour... whoops but what the hell, it's all an experience!
We are still on schedule with the plans as long as there arent too many snow storms!
Calling all CO folk see you soon! Dinner/lunch sounds good if its roughly on our route
Where are ye, lads?
Gonna be a bit breezy on your travels through Wyoming today and tomorrow, but at least it's not snowing.
What's the dinner plans for Denver?
Mike
Just left the guys a voice mail message. Cool trip guys!
Going through Oklahoma, you'll want to drive up Mt. Scott during daylight.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mount+scott,+ok&sll=35.012002,-97.097168&sspn=1.032517,2.469177&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mt+Scott,+Lawton,+Comanche,+Oklahoma+73501&ll=34.845367,-97.868958&spn=1.034616,2.469177&z=9
If you want to see small town Oklahoma, you can drive over to Mangum, OK from Mt. Scott or go to Mangum first then Mt. Scott.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mangum,+OK&sll=34.845367,-98.239746&sspn=2.06916,4.938354&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mangum,+Greer,+Oklahoma&ll=34.872412,-99.503174&spn=1.034276,2.469177&z=9
There is not much in the way of gas stations in these parts, so you want to keep an eye on your gauge.
I STRONGLY recommend you stop and eat at the Ranchman's Cafe in Ponder, TX. All sorts of famous people have eaten their several times. The food is utterly delicious.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ponder,+tx&sll=34.872412,-99.503174&sspn=1.034276,2.469177&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Ponder,+Denton,+Texas&ll=33.182962,-97.287369&spn=0.131887,0.308647&z=12
Address is: 110 W Bailey
PO Box 117
Ponder, Texas 76259
Did we miss the Colorado leg of your trip?
Sorry for the patchy updates... we have been blasting along to beat the weather... and get more time at the beach!
We are now in New Orleans but off to Panama City Beach, FL in the morning.
We had a great time in Denver, we stayed at the Ramada and spent an interesting evening at the English pub down the road from the hotel...
We also stopped in Oklahoma City and Santa Fe in a slight change to our route.
We have also had a couple of minor problems along the way... Easter Sunday we managed to pull in for a quick lunch beak to find the main fuel line spraying fuel onto the intake at 3bar... we needed a change of pants realising what could have happened if the fuel had gone straight onto the exhaust instead... Anyways being easter sunday we struggled to find some injection hose so i managed to bridge the leak for the 90 mile jaunt to Houston and we got a new piece of hose the next day ($2 fix!)
nick then left the headlights on while we spent the day exploring the space centre... and yes battery took a beating but looks to be fine again now... Its all fun and Heidi is still motoring like a champ. She also loves Shell Optimax at 93 RON being the Euro sec which should run on 98RON!! Goes like a train now we have got some good miles under her belt and are running back at sea level. Power steering is still leaking like a good'n and we managed to break the bonnet release so a pair of pliers come in hands at every gas station... other than that with the seats and windows working properly she is almost better than when we got her... definatly more comfortable and thank god for amazing air-con!!
Lots of photos going onto my photobucket account (search people: pillay2k)
i will add some here soon as possible which will hopefully be in some kind of order! Internet is a bit slow at the moment.
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