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Posted by: silver74insocal Dec 20 2009, 10:27 PM
QUOTE(kconway @ Dec 20 2009, 08:06 PM)
Waddup Kev! kewl another socal er! try these links for help:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914parts.htm
http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/TechNotebook.htm
pm if you need help dude im in rancho cucamonga. i have an intacted electrical system in the car in the garage and no how your feelin (PO completely disaasembled FI system and ihad to put it back together) I can send pics or help id ing wires. what year you got? thanks,Dave
Posted by: bandjoey Dec 20 2009, 10:29 PM
We'll all done that one time or other. Good news is you probably have another 914er close by that can help and after 30-40 hours of work you'll figure it out. Really it's not that hard after you understand how German wires layout. They're all color coded. There's an ebay store that sells jumbo size, laminated, colored and labeled electrical schematics..http://www.colorwiringdiagrams.com
It's the only way I finally figured it out. Post Pictures! Good Luck and Merry Christmas.
Posted by: McMark Dec 20 2009, 10:38 PM
QUOTE
Tell me there is a resource available to put it all back together.
That's what we're here for.
You'll get through it.
Posted by: detoxcowboy Dec 20 2009, 10:50 PM
I have been in the "overwhelmed" situations and evry time so far they worked out easier than anticiapted without fail, it is the seamingly simple things that get out of the expecation of difficulty level, and the seemingly hard things that are suprisingly easier.. You will get it wired and as a result have a much better understanding of how your 914 works. Basic 914 wiring is an awesome thing to understand as down the road it will make unusual problems instantly recognizeable and deciferable. When your done you will know how to find ghosts.. Good Luck post it here we will help..
Posted by: ahdoman Dec 20 2009, 11:36 PM
Kevin - what year is your car? I've got a really nice laminated full color wiring diagram you could borrow that's for a 74 and up.
Posted by: kconway Dec 20 2009, 11:54 PM
QUOTE(ahdoman @ Dec 20 2009, 09:36 PM)
Kevin - what year is your car? I've got a really nice laminated full color wiring diagram you could borrow that's for a 74 and up.
My car is a 74.
Posted by: silver74insocal Dec 21 2009, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(kconway @ Dec 20 2009, 09:54 PM)
QUOTE(ahdoman @ Dec 20 2009, 09:36 PM)
Kevin - what year is your car? I've got a really nice laminated full color wiring diagram you could borrow that's for a 74 and up.
My car is a 74.
hey Kev can you post some pics of your engine bay (motor installed)? i want to compare harness and wiring locations. any help would be great. i have a 74 1.8
Posted by: Dr Evil Dec 21 2009, 11:17 PM
Dude, you live in Long Beach. You have one of the most prolific and best communities available to you. Joe Sharp, T H O M A S, just to name 2 of the many. You will be OK, unless they dont like you, then you are screwed
Posted by: swood Dec 21 2009, 11:25 PM
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Dec 21 2009, 09:17 PM)
Dude, you live in Long Beach. You have one of the most prolific and best communities available to you. Joe Sharp, T H O M A S, just to name 2 of the many. You will be OK, unless they dont like you, then you are screwed
I'm your neighbor. I like you...problem is I don't know jack shitake. But, if you need a shoulder to cry on, I'm here for you. I may even have a '74 harness that may be in "less worse" shape than what you got. But like I said, I wouldn't know.
Posted by: silver74insocal Dec 21 2009, 11:47 PM
QUOTE(swood @ Dec 21 2009, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Dec 21 2009, 09:17 PM)
Dude, you live in Long Beach. You have one of the most prolific and best communities available to you. Joe Sharp, T H O M A S, just to name 2 of the many. You will be OK, unless they dont like you, then you are screwed
I'm your neighbor. I like you...problem is I don't know jack shitake. But, if you need a shoulder to cry on, I'm here for you. I may even have a '74 harness that may be in "less worse" shape than what you got. But like I said, I wouldn't know.
seriously guys wtf. im just down the road and will drop everything to help.i am not well knowledged but can figure out anything in electronics....so why the cold shoulder? just trying to help
Posted by: hwgunner Dec 22 2009, 12:52 AM
QUOTE(silver74insocal @ Dec 21 2009, 09:47 PM)
QUOTE(swood @ Dec 21 2009, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Dec 21 2009, 09:17 PM)
Dude, you live in Long Beach. You have one of the most prolific and best communities available to you. Joe Sharp, T H O M A S, just to name 2 of the many. You will be OK, unless they dont like you, then you are screwed
I'm your neighbor. I like you...problem is I don't know jack shitake. But, if you need a shoulder to cry on, I'm here for you. I may even have a '74 harness that may be in "less worse" shape than what you got. But like I said, I wouldn't know.
seriously guys wtf. im just down the road and will drop everything to help.i am not well knowledged but can figure out anything in electronics....so why the cold shoulder? just trying to help
I think a relax pill might be in order. The guys are not tryin to dis you, but they have been around for a very long time and happen to know a couple people who have also been around a long time who are in the area and know they can help. They just don't know you.
Posted by: Dr Evil Dec 22 2009, 01:06 AM
Know who? Easy does it, man.
Posted by: kconway Dec 22 2009, 01:27 AM
QUOTE(silver74insocal @ Dec 21 2009, 08:05 PM)
QUOTE(kconway @ Dec 20 2009, 09:54 PM)
QUOTE(ahdoman @ Dec 20 2009, 09:36 PM)
Kevin - what year is your car? I've got a really nice laminated full color wiring diagram you could borrow that's for a 74 and up.
My car is a 74.
hey Kev can you post some pics of your engine bay (motor installed)? i want to compare harness and wiring locations. any help would be great. i have a 74 1.8
No can do, engine is presently out of the car as is most of the FI and ignition wiring.
Kev
Posted by: ahdoman Dec 22 2009, 09:17 AM
Kevin - That dash assembly setup is really bizarre and that's a big hole! If you're down this far you might consider just buying a whole new dash assembly from somebody who has some parts cars and just bolt it in. Ask them to include the heater/vent assembly as well.
Note; Bruce Stone probably has one and he's local. PM him; bdstone914.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Dec 22 2009, 10:12 AM
I have a complete harness from a '75 in a box that may help. When I first got it, I mounted it the length of the garage wall; I wanted to see where everthing goes. A few of the color coded wires were cut and used on my 914; 99% is intact with switches and fuse panel. I also have a laminated wire diagram. Let me know if you can use it. It's in a box and ready to use.
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Posted by: kconway Dec 22 2009, 10:17 AM
QUOTE(ahdoman @ Dec 22 2009, 07:17 AM)
Kevin - That dash assembly setup is really bizarre and that's a big hole! If you're down this far you might consider just buying a whole new dash assembly from somebody who has some parts cars and just bolt it in. Ask them to include the heater/vent assembly as well.
Note; Bruce Stone probably has one and he's local. PM him; bdstone914.
Steve,
One of the first things I did when I got this car some 4-5 years ago was locate a dashframe. Mike D. up your way graciously donated one I'm going to use.
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 22 2009, 05:37 PM
#1 - Goes to the Steering column
#2 - Dash lights (well, you have the sockets, without the lights)
#3 - A switch of sorts, a pic of the knob would help ...
Andy
Posted by: mightyohm Dec 22 2009, 05:44 PM
Sorry to hijack but am I the only person who wants to see pics of the crazy computer system that you are ripping out?
Posted by: kconway Dec 22 2009, 05:46 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 22 2009, 03:37 PM)
#1 - Goes to the Steering column
#2 - Dash lights (well, you have the sockets, without the lights)
#3 - A switch of sorts, a pic of the knob would help ...
Andy
#1 YES, thank you. Didn't notice that one when I pulled the column, just the two smaller connectors. Unfortunately, the hot wire does not stay seated in this connector. Got lucky as I noticed a big slice in the jacketing of the hot wire before I melted everything after reassembly!
#2. Okay, maybe there are dash lights on the fresh air controls? All other dash lights are accounted for.
#3 I suspect these go to the terminals on the fresh air sliders. This knob says "lights" but as i remember it I think they operated the fan for the defroster?
Posted by: kconway Dec 22 2009, 05:48 PM
QUOTE(mightyohm @ Dec 22 2009, 03:44 PM)
Sorry to hijack but am I the only person who wants to see pics of the crazy computer system that you are ripping out?
Jeff,
computer system is long gone but there are photos here in this post>
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=61776&hl=
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 22 2009, 05:57 PM
QUOTE(kconway @ Dec 22 2009, 03:46 PM)
#3 I suspect these go to the terminals on the fresh air sliders. This knob says "lights" but as i remember it I think they operated the fan for the defroster?
Aha. The fresh air fan is normally operated by the dash controls, so you won't need that switch anymore ...
And yes, the dash lights go to the dash controls ...
Andy
Posted by: 396 Dec 22 2009, 09:51 PM
QUOTE(kconway @ Dec 20 2009, 08:06 PM)
Talk to Art.. that's provided he has time now the he's hooked up again.
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 22 2009, 10:02 PM
QUOTE(mightyohm @ Dec 22 2009, 06:44 PM)
Sorry to hijack but am I the only person who wants to see pics of the crazy computer system that you are ripping out?
I remember that thread.
My teenage buddy, with a dad that had all the toys, had this in a Lincoln. Early bling.
Computer was kind of lame, late 70's tech, it did do MPG, temp, time, bunch of engine monitors. You know useless crap to a kid who drove a beat bug.
Posted by: silver74insocal Dec 22 2009, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(hwgunner @ Dec 21 2009, 10:52 PM)
QUOTE(silver74insocal @ Dec 21 2009, 09:47 PM)
QUOTE(swood @ Dec 21 2009, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Dec 21 2009, 09:17 PM)
Dude, you live in Long Beach. You have one of the most prolific and best communities available to you. Joe Sharp, T H O M A S, just to name 2 of the many. You will be OK, unless they dont like you, then you are screwed
I'm your neighbor. I like you...problem is I don't know jack shitake. But, if you need a shoulder to cry on, I'm here for you. I may even have a '74 harness that may be in "less worse" shape than what you got. But like I said, I wouldn't know.
seriously guys wtf. im just down the road and will drop everything to help.i am not well knowledged but can figure out anything in electronics....so why the cold shoulder? just trying to help
I think a relax pill might be in order. The guys are not tryin to dis you, but they have been around for a very long time and happen to know a couple people who have also been around a long time who are in the area and know they can help. They just don't know you.
no worries..sorry bad choice of words. i should have put a happier smiley face at the end to notate my un seriousness..is that a word?
Posted by: kconway Dec 23 2009, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(396 @ Dec 22 2009, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE(kconway @ Dec 20 2009, 08:06 PM)
Talk to Art.. that's provided he has time now the he's hooked up again.
I'll have to track himd down when we go back to work. I thought he told me he sold everything he had, maybe that was -6 diagrams?
Posted by: rascobo Dec 25 2009, 09:47 AM
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Dec 20 2009, 08:29 PM)
We'll all done that one time or other. Good news is you probably have another 914er close by that can help and after 30-40 hours of work you'll figure it out.
Really it's not that hard after you understand how German wires layout. They're all color coded. There's an ebay store that sells jumbo size, laminated, colored and labeled electrical schematics..http://www.colorwiringdiagrams.com
It's the only way I finally figured it out. Post Pictures! Good Luck and Merry Christmas.
Hell,
thirty to forty hours? My first time it took Me that long to stop crying and crawl out from under my blankets. Ahh, the good old days before the Internet and this fancy,smancy '914 World.com, when real men figured it out on their own or walked (damn, but My feet still hurt)!
Hang in there, there are a lot of resources and help available, and a sense of pride, accomplishment and satisfaction when You persevere and finally overcome and defeat these wonderful and sometimes evil little Teutonic love machines.
A trip through the Emoticons can pretty much tell the story.
Haven't been to bed yet, can You tell?
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