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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Nurburgring crashes of the seventies

Posted by: johannes Jan 8 2010, 07:50 AM

I uploaded a new version of the Nürburgring crashes video.
Better image quality, more crashes and a few 914.
These shots were captured in the seventies with a super 8mm film camera.
A time when safety was just a word. This was filmed when the "ring" is opened to the public. Most drivers don't even have seat belts, some have the children on the backseats ...
The curve is called Adenauer Forst and is just afer a long straight line


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwc54G2Ur8

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 8 2010, 08:27 AM

Cool.
That Yellow 914 just kept trying.

The tangerine 914 did not seem to notice that there was a bend in the road.
Zach

Posted by: flipb Jan 8 2010, 08:33 AM

Very cool.

Watch the whole thing... there are some amazing crashes in there. If you're just looking for the 914's, they're at 3:30; 3:55, and 6:20 - although the latter isn't so much a crash as a shortcut. smile.gif Plenty of other P-cars too.

Kind of a relief to see that the P-cars tended to have relatively controlled spin-outs, as opposed to a lot of the more top-heavy cars.

Posted by: Cheapsnake Jan 8 2010, 09:00 AM

We have no idea what the drivers were saying as they emerged from their cars, but we can assume most of the words spoken just before entering the curve,

"Hold my beer and watch this!"

Tom

Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 8 2010, 09:41 AM

Awesome. In one of the last crashes someone has a soda come out the right front window and start squirting all over the place... Too much speed, not enough tire, not enough talent...

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 8 2010, 09:46 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jan 8 2010, 10:41 AM) *

Awesome. In one of the last crashes someone has a soda come out the right front window and start squirting all over the place... Too much speed, not enough tire, not enough talent...

What about the dude in the bug that tries to jump clear of his car!!!

When you go to the Ring these days, is it still so lax? No helmets, some of these guys were clearly not even wearing seat belts.

Zach

Posted by: stuttgart46 Jan 8 2010, 10:07 AM

Dig that crazy music man.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jan 8 2010, 10:26 AM

Helmets are not required. It's still basically "run what ya brung". w00t.gif driving.gif Although most of the cars I saw where pretty well prepared. (I didn't see any sodas flying out of windows). They said one motorcyclist a month dies at the "Ring". We were driving cars from a company called "rent-a-racer". The insurance deductible was $10,000!

Posted by: messix Jan 8 2010, 10:26 AM

gotta love swing axles

Posted by: ahdoman Jan 8 2010, 11:42 AM

I have never seen so many "yard sales" in one video! Did you notice the handling characteristics of all the 911's? They all did the same thing.

Posted by: underthetire Jan 8 2010, 12:08 PM

Wow, that was cool. Brought back memories of my dads 73 rootbeer brown Crapi, i mean , Capri. I moshed that car sooo bad. You know some of those had to be " hey mom, can I borrow the car" then "hey mom, i destroyed your car"...

Posted by: johannes Jan 8 2010, 12:22 PM

If that bug cab had flipped that would have killed a lot of people ! ...

Posted by: plymouth37 Jan 8 2010, 12:31 PM

looks like the orange 914 took the best line out of anybody!

Posted by: agentblr Jan 8 2010, 12:41 PM

I'm sure you all noticed none of the Porsche's flipped ! Anyone know what the green car is at 6:59 ??

Posted by: VegasRacer Jan 8 2010, 01:05 PM

Kool. aktion035.gif

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 8 2010, 01:10 PM

I wonder if the passenger in the BMW at the :30 second mark was ok after coming that far out of the window?

Posted by: johannes Jan 8 2010, 01:19 PM

QUOTE(agentblr @ Jan 8 2010, 10:41 AM) *

I'm sure you all noticed none of the Porsche's flipped ! Anyone know what the green car is at 6:59 ??


I know what it is...
Rare car, that's why I put it on the video despite it didn't really crashed.
Could be a good question for the "guess the car" game ...
Attached Image

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 8 2010, 01:22 PM

Alfa.

Posted by: johannes Jan 8 2010, 01:23 PM

QUOTE
Alfa...

Romeo ...

Attached Image

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 8 2010, 01:27 PM

IPB Image
Alfa....

Posted by: johannes Jan 8 2010, 01:36 PM

Everyone can say it's an Alfa ...

It's a ZAGATO JUNIOR ...


...

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 8 2010, 01:49 PM

I was giving others a chance. My brother has been a big Alfa fan for years....hard not to pick up some of it.

Posted by: URY914 Jan 8 2010, 03:48 PM

Looks like the BMW and Bug drivers need to turn it down a notch...

Posted by: Madswede Jan 8 2010, 04:02 PM

The person in the hideous something-or-other at 5:08 makes a nice save. Love the Orange 914 taking the shortcut. Wasn't there a light blue-ish 911 that went into the ditch sideways? He seemed like the only 911 that didn't get throttle off oversteer. There's also a couple more guys that make some miraculous recoveries ... I sure hope whomever was in the burning wreck escaped!

Great video, thanks for posting it!

- Nelson

Posted by: kg6dxn Jan 8 2010, 04:28 PM

The last time I saw that many Notchbacks was at a VW car show. Sad to see so many wrecked there. Now I know where those rare Vw's went... Junk Yard hissyfit.gif

Posted by: '73-914kid Jan 8 2010, 04:33 PM

I'm amazed at how controled the 914 spins were. and yeah, they all did the same thing..

Posted by: 914Sixer Jan 8 2010, 04:34 PM

I was at the Ring for the 1970 German GP. Cars would fly by on the straight away on pit row the hit the 1st corner and you could see daylight under the tires. Everything from F1 cars to the Capri's, BMW's,Porsche"s, etc. were able to catch air on the corner.

Posted by: johannes Jan 8 2010, 04:41 PM

QUOTE
The person in the hideous something-or-other at 5:08 makes a nice save


That's a Matra M530. Mid engined, Ford V4, about 80 hp and plastic shell.
In french magazines of the 70's they used to compare this to a 914 and most (french) journalists would prefer the Matra. I can remember some writing the Matra had a timeless design that would last compare to the 914 that they described as hideous...
ha ha ha , Matra sold a few 1000 of M530 and the design is now so obsolete...

Posted by: MDG Jan 8 2010, 04:42 PM

QUOTE(Sleepin @ Jan 8 2010, 02:10 PM) *

I wonder if the passenger in the BMW at the :30 second mark was ok after coming that far out of the window?


I thought the same thing. The whiplash effect of the person's face into the top of the door/roof looks like it would have been messy.

Posted by: Smitty911 Jan 8 2010, 05:06 PM

A convertable FULL of people on a Race track. shades.gif screwy.gif

I thought it was a Early DRIFTING movie, The Fast and the Dead.

The Opel GT stayed on all fours as did all the 914's. The Beetles rolling over and drivers falling out.

Common Sense? I think not. No Helmets, Seat Belts, Roll Cages, we have come along ways.

Posted by: bembry Jan 8 2010, 05:16 PM

QUOTE(johannes @ Jan 8 2010, 12:36 PM) *

Everyone can say it's an Alfa ...

It's a ZAGATO JUNIOR ...


...


Hell,
I'm glad go guys got it. I thought it was a Saab Sonnet initially.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 8 2010, 05:27 PM

QUOTE(Smitty911 @ Jan 8 2010, 03:06 PM) *

No Helmets, Seat Belts, Roll Cages, we have come along ways.

Keep in mind, this is NOT a racing event. shades.gif

It's basically like parade laps on a race track where anyone can take their family wagon and drive around the track a few times.

This is still done to this day at every major race track i have ever been to.
popcorn[1].gif Andy

Posted by: TravisG Jan 8 2010, 08:18 PM

That looks like the way I drive on the computer games driving.gif Have no feel of the road and get mad when it slides off the road at 30mph! biggrin.gif

Posted by: scotty b Jan 8 2010, 08:34 PM

LOL I had this on in another window when I started atching the vid. Works pretty well. Give it a try lol-2.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSQTfeySt2s

Works even betterer !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ChiKPI67M&feature=related

Posted by: scotty Jan 9 2010, 12:46 AM

QUOTE(MDG @ Jan 8 2010, 02:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Sleepin @ Jan 8 2010, 02:10 PM) *

I wonder if the passenger in the BMW at the :30 second mark was ok after coming that far out of the window?


I thought the same thing. The whiplash effect of the person's face into the top of the door/roof looks like it would have been messy.


Damn! No belts whatsoever. Those people are all lucky...that burnt out car didn't look so good.

I was on the edge of my seat hoping the guy in the Alfa would save it unsure.gif

Posted by: Drums66 Jan 9 2010, 01:51 PM

Johannes,

is there a Fiat 850 sport coupe.....somewhere
in that video??? idea.gif popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: johannes Jan 11 2010, 02:08 AM

QUOTE(Drums66 @ Jan 9 2010, 11:51 AM) *

Johannes,

is there a Fiat 850 sport coupe.....somewhere
in that video??? idea.gif popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif


There are plenty of them ...

BTW I owned a 1969 Fiat 850 sport coupe in the eighties.


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