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Posted by: mepstein Jan 9 2010, 09:47 AM

Official Steel Flare Group Buy

George Hussey, the owner of Automobile Atlanta, has offered a group buy special on his reproduction 914-6 GT steel flares. These flares are NLA from Porsche and have been successfully reproduced by Auto Atlanta. More facts about these flares are available at www.autoatlanta.com

The special, one time, discount price is $550.00 per set. Shipping to the lower 48 will be $50.00, shipped Fed Ex. Regular price in the Auto Atlanta catalogue is $1,095 + shipping. If you live outside the lower 48, please send $600/sets ordered and additional shipping charges will be determined by Auto Atlanta prior to shipping.

If you purchase flares under the package deal, you may also buy a set of duplicate GT rockers for an extra 150.00 + $35 shipping. Regular catalog price is $225.00 +shipping. Fiberglass rockers are measured from a factory 914-6 GT. Again, additional shipping charges outside the lower 48.

The flare order ends on January 31st 2010. Within about 2 weeks of George receiving payment, he will start production. I would imagine we could expect to receive flares by the end of February.

Payment will be in the form of USPS money order made out to Automobile Atlanta. The only way to hold your place and receive a set at this incredible price is to have payment to me by January 31st. Please do not send checks or ask about other forms of payment, we do not have the means to accept anything other than money orders. Money orders sell for $2.00 at your local post office. George would like all questions and payments to be first directed at myself, so he and his staff do not spend extra time and resources on the transaction. I will do my best to answer questions and will contact George or his staff if needed.

Please mail your money order to me and include the following:
Name
Address
Phone
# of flare sets and optional GT rocker sets ordered.

Please send me an email Mark@MarkEpstein.net with your full name and # of flare sets ordered so I can keep a running tally and have a check against money orders received.

Thank you,

Mark Epstein
5307 Limestone Road, Suite 100
Wilmington, DE 19808

302-355-0684

Posted by: r_towle Jan 9 2010, 09:59 AM

Can we get a more firm date on delivery for this run?

Rich

Posted by: pktzygt Jan 9 2010, 10:32 AM

Expect a check from me.

Posted by: Todd Enlund Jan 9 2010, 03:09 PM

Damn! That's killer... $150 lower than the buy that I organized.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jan 9 2010, 04:22 PM

Thank George for going out on a limb and making these available at all. No business wants to spend money if it doesn't have to these days. If he's able to make a profit on them and get a a larger number made, it allows him to get the tooling costs amoratized much easier, and may allow more neat parts to become available in the future.

I've always been happy that people like Auto Atlanta, Vellios, Wevo, PMO, etc. have had the courage and guts to make unique parts available for a rather small, select market. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 9 2010, 07:04 PM

Well, I don't work at Auto Atlanta but if I had to guess...
Send money to AA
Production ~1 week later,
Post production,
Delivery to AA,
Pack and ship to customer
~1 month?

Probably hard to give an exact date because of all the different people who touch the flares but from what George told me, an end of February date is reasonable. Perhaps the organizer from the last group buy/George could chime in. Since AA is out of stock, this group buy is the fastest way to get a set at a price that can't be beat. Thanks, Mark

Posted by: jsayre914 Jan 9 2010, 10:24 PM

Mabey this thread needs some motivational pictures (awesome flared cars)

At that price I was also thinking about it. What eles exactly is involved other than the welding and painting. Can you keep the stock suspension the same and use spacers, or is that silly. Do you have to go 5 lug to get wheels that look right??

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jan 9 2010, 10:38 PM

Anything can be done with enough money (4 lug custom wheels can be made), but I think most folks use the readily available 5 lug wheels from the 911 line.

Posted by: McMark Jan 10 2010, 12:02 AM

Custom wheels aside, you'll have to go five lug to really take advantage of the flares.

The sets of AA flares I've seen have always been impressive, and that price is nearly as cheap as fiberglass.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 11 2010, 08:44 AM

Do you think there is anything wrong with using 2" spacers with the stock 2.0 fuch alloys. I wasn't planning on changing the suspention when I install the flares. I know I won't get the advantage of wider rubber but I like the look of the flares and the four lug wheels.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 11 2010, 08:57 AM

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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 11 2010, 10:15 AM

The really cheap way to go is to buy a set of four to five lug adaptors and then purchase a set of seven inch fuchs repros and bolt them on. Another way is to purchase 7.5 and 8.5 boxster wheels and bolt them on with the four to five lug wheel adaptors. That will give the 914 an updated rather than vintage look.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 11 2010, 10:37 AM

We have several cars here with the steel flares installed including the old extreme (many of you are probably familiar with it) I will post a few.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 11 2010, 10:38 AM

here is a car that Craig Laughlin at the Camp sold us. It went to Germany. Had our steel flares and a four to five lug conversion that we sell installed. Craig had factory fuchs on it and we really liked the silver center color.

Posted by: nsyr Jan 12 2010, 11:34 AM

Count me in

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 12 2010, 12:02 PM

Never done a money order. What's wrong with a check? No means to accept a check?
Andy

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Jan 12 2010, 12:10 PM

Guess I will miss out again. This is too short of n.itice to come up with the extra money unless I skip out on the Buttercup build in Kansas. I would have een good for a couple of sets after February but I am committed to the Kansas trip. I also noticed you didn't mention anything about that price being dependent on a minimum 40 sets being sold. Has that changed now & 550.00 is the price regardless of how many are so,d?


Donald

Posted by: mepstein Jan 12 2010, 12:27 PM

We've had a really good response so far with quite a few members emailing me that the money orders are on the way. I counted 40 hands up when George placed his initial post for gauging interest in a group buy. Some of the vendors asked for 2-3 sets so I'm hoping we hear from you soon. At this price, it might make sense to keep a couple sets in stock. The GT look is getting more popular and the flares are the most obvious feature. They also give you the opportunity for wider wheels and tires. We are going to hit the 40+ number for sets ordered - Failure is not an option! So let your 'teener friends know that they need to order a set too. Thanks guys, Mark

Posted by: mepstein Jan 12 2010, 12:35 PM

I don't think Auto Atlanta wants to take personal checks (they would have to wait for them to clear and we have members ordering sets from other countries -Japan, Germany, ect.) and I do not want to take a check with my name on it, deposit it and then pay AA. That would not be safe for the members. Money orders are easy and safe - $2.00 at your local post office minutes before you drop it in the mail.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 12 2010, 12:50 PM

We will sell 40 sets! I have also listed on Club, Roadglue, Pelican, Rennlist, and Samba. If the racers wil post on the racing/ax sites, that would be great!

Thanks, Mark

Posted by: enikolayev Jan 12 2010, 01:07 PM

Count me in as well. Will send the money order in a few days.

Posted by: jkrobb2001 Jan 12 2010, 03:34 PM

Mark,
If you order 2 sets is it 100$ for shipping? Also if 2 sets of rockers then 70$ shipping for rockers? Any combined shipping? Should we include shipping with initial money order? Thanks, Jeff

Posted by: mepstein Jan 12 2010, 03:47 PM

Jeff-

Remember - Every set (or 2) ordered benefits the entire group. And please, make all money orders out to Automobile Atlanta - not me. Thank you, Mark

Posted by: mepstein Jan 14 2010, 01:55 PM

What my teener will (almost) look like when Scotty B gets done...


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Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 14 2010, 02:00 PM

how many sets are currently accounted for?

I am on the fence on this one, but the price is hard to turn down. You could flip them at Hershey for a quick profit.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 14 2010, 03:07 PM

We will have 40 sets sold so everyone can get the $550 price.

I am receiving orders from Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan in addition to members from roadglue, pelican, club and samba.

Posted by: kconway Jan 14 2010, 03:08 PM

Wow! Checks in hand for 40 sets in a week is pretty amazing...

Posted by: mepstein Jan 14 2010, 03:18 PM

We WILL have 40 sets sold. Check are coming in but it's only been 5 days since thread went live. Thanks, Mark

Posted by: Gudhjem Jan 14 2010, 04:03 PM

My money order went in the mail today.

Posted by: kconway Jan 14 2010, 04:26 PM

Oh, my bad. Interesting...not trying to knock this but I'll be pretty surprised if you can get 40 sold in a reasonable amount of time. There has been several prior buys and I can't imagine there are 40 more who follow through. The real expense is the installation and when that realization sets in, the numbers drop. Also, hopefully you didn't double counts raised hands since alot of folks play in each of those forums in different names.

Good luck, your enthusiasm is exactly what a group buy needs.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 14 2010, 05:03 PM

* We should have 10 sets purchased just from the overseas members. I'd rather get this done quickly than have it drag out too long. I'm hoping members can have the flares in there hand begining of March.

I received 5 emails like this today;
Hi Mark.
Just sent my money order for $785 to you. Thanks again for coordinating this.
--Steve
1 set flares
1 set GT rockers
Steve M

The real expense is the installation and when that realization sets in, the numbers drop.

* I bet the members could get a group flare build together similar to the transmission clinic (past) and rust repair (future). East coast/mid/west coast. Drive in, weld, drive out. Production line style. Scotty B offered me a good price since I'm getting him to paint my car.

Also, hopefully you didn't double counts raised hands since alot of folks play in each of those forums in different names.

* I didn't take any of the hands too seriously, I'm counting members who are sending checks.

Good luck, your enthusiasm is exactly what a group buy needs.

* Thank you. Real estate is sort of slow this time of year so I'm having fun with this stuff. Just bought new calipers, rotors, ect, ect from Eric Shea/PMB. Bunch of small parts from AA and Pelican. Planning on talking to Jake Raby for one of his killer 4's. Mark

Posted by: mepstein Jan 16 2010, 06:33 AM

1 week into group flare buy! Order your set now! This deal will not be repeated soon and maybe never at this price. A set sold recently on roadglue for $800 in 24 hours. Don't miss this great opportunity.


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Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 18 2010, 10:09 PM

Bumping this to the top. You won't find this deal again!

Posted by: JazonJJordan Jan 18 2010, 11:03 PM

Fantastic. In for one complete set; possibly two. Thanks guys.

Posted by: michaelt55 Jan 19 2010, 12:46 AM

I am on the fence on this one... whats the count?


Michael

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 19 2010, 09:44 AM

How about ""on the flare" on this one"" Michael???

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 19 2010, 10:03 AM

I think this thread should be a STICKY at least until the group buy is over.

If you're on the fence, fall over to the flared side!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 19 2010, 10:33 AM

I just received 5 more checks today with many more members telling me the checks are in the mail.

Buy Flares
Buy Flares
Buy Flares

Posted by: andys Jan 19 2010, 10:58 AM

Mark,

I'm not sure what your answer was to Donald's question. What happens to our $550 if we fall short of 40 sets? Will you ask for more money to cover any cost differential, or do we have the option to have the funds returned and our order cancelled on an individual basis?

I need to get to the Post Office to purchase the cashiers check/money order; one set of flares here.

Andys

Posted by: hcdmueller Jan 19 2010, 11:00 AM

Any idea how much shipping would be for USPS to an APO address? I won't flare the car I have but one car is never enough.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 19 2010, 01:15 PM

We had another member ask and George said AA often sends to APO and FPO addresses. My understanding is there shouldn't be any additional shipping cost since flares weigh 22lbs and ship out of NY. Definately order a set for future builds. Or sell them for big $ profit overseas!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 19 2010, 01:28 PM

I'll just trade all the money orders in to AA for a 914-6 :>)
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No, really, I'll let the members decide what to do. But if all the people telling me, "the checks in the mail", put the check in the mail, we'll have 40 sets.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 19 2010, 01:32 PM

39 sets, we're just waiting on you. :>)

Posted by: mepstein Jan 19 2010, 03:44 PM

Flares


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Posted by: kfish914 Jan 19 2010, 04:50 PM

I put the money order in the mail today should be on your door step by Fri-Sat.

Posted by: sixgt Jan 19 2010, 05:45 PM

Can I do one set of flares and two sets of rockers? I was in on the last group buy. Lmk, thanks!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 19 2010, 07:34 PM

yes, I'm sure we can work it out

Posted by: Todd Enlund Jan 19 2010, 07:46 PM

That would be awesome. The welder could be running constantly, but jumping from car to car to allow the metal time to cool in between beads.

Posted by: david63 Jan 19 2010, 09:19 PM

Money order sent today. Thanks for handling this

Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2010, 06:03 AM

Mike from Spain is ordering 5 sets! Woo Hoo!!!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 20 2010, 09:51 AM

You are doing a fabulous job Mark keep up the good work. We are ready to go and Tim is loading the tooling next week.

Posted by: Justinp71 Jan 20 2010, 11:20 AM

This is a great deal, here are my AA flares that I paid $900 for...


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Posted by: sawtooth Jan 20 2010, 01:07 PM

I'm in. Money order is on its way. Thanks Mark!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2010, 01:12 PM

Hidetsugu is ordering from Japan!

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 20 2010, 01:21 PM

Does the price go down when we get to 60 sets?

Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2010, 01:31 PM

At that number, George actually hands me the keys to his GT!

George, any links to articles on that car?

Posted by: enikolayev Jan 20 2010, 05:16 PM

Money order sent.

1 Set Flares
1 Set Rockers

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2010, 09:25 AM

There are many articles out there this fabulous car. The original won lemans first second and third in 1966 and won in 67 68 and 69 then Henry Ford decided he had beaten the europeans enough (Ferrari for the most part) so retired the car. The recreation was made in 2005 and 2006 only. It looks and is constructed so much like a Porsche 904 that I am sure that the ford engineers tore apart a few when designing the GT 40!
This is the only american car I own besides our original family 1964 Buick Riviera http://kaufmanphoto.zenfolio.com/p611204665/h12430722#h14d01258 and was very surprised at what Americans could create in a car if they really tried.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 21 2010, 09:34 AM

I actually was talking about the 914-6 GT (thought you had a blue one?) but the Ford will suffice.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2010, 09:45 AM

I was not thinking as I drove that Ford in today!

The M-471 GT Has had several articles written about it by Brett Johnson in the past and they were published in Excellence magazine. It is a totally stock car as is as it was from the factory with steel factory installed flares fiberglass flared rocker panels, six inch fuchs alloys with 21mm wheel spacers and longer wheel studs, the standard six cylinder engine, and best of all a factory front flared steel valance to match the flared fenders. The big giveaway is that the side markers have been relocated downward from the non flared location just like they did with the USA 916.
What is funny is that we measured both the 916 and the 914-6 m-471 and the flare placement is different between them. I wonder what Steve's car measures?
One cannot really beat the look of the GT flares as they really add toughness to the car and by being able to add the wider wheels and tires, adds tremendous handling to the car, making it able to compete with modern cars with fat wheels and tires.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2010, 09:47 AM

by the way the m-471 has not been run in at least seven years so although I would love to hand you the keys, you would get no where quickly Mark!!!!!!!!!!


It is about time we take this car out and get it running again.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 21 2010, 09:59 AM

Any links to those articles?

And that sort of answers my other question. When I flare my car, I'm planning on using the 2.0 fuchs and not going 5 lug. I have 205x60x15 so there's a lot more tire than original and I want to keep it from being "over-tired" and sluggish. I was thinking about 25mm of spacers since the wheels are 5.5" Nice to hear I will have a similar stance to the factory GT. I'm not trying to build a replica, just look right for me. Also have my eye on a pair of all leather GTS LeMans seats. Never cared for vinyl seats ( I know I'l catch hell for that statement).

Oh, talked to Jake Raby lat night. making plans for project 2270!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 21 2010, 10:11 AM

Yes - I'll be available when you get it running again. It's only a 1500 mile round trip for me. Hmmm, going to be at Hershey, PA?

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2010, 04:47 PM

I actually drove that car up there years ago for a 914 owners association meeting. Driving back at speed through the Shenandoah valley with the top off was tremendous.

Posted by: smg914 Jan 21 2010, 05:24 PM

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2010, 05:37 PM

WOW steve. Are they brothers or are they sisters? I know that WE are brothers!

Posted by: andys Jan 21 2010, 05:37 PM

Money order sent today; one set of GT flares.

Andys

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 21 2010, 05:40 PM

Notice the front flared belly pan / valance on the blue car?

We also took the rocker mold from these factory fiberglass GT rockers on the blue car

Posted by: mepstein Jan 21 2010, 06:16 PM

Sahara Beige Steve - Are you able to share any information about your GT?

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 21 2010, 09:48 PM

I think I just drooled on my keyboard.

Posted by: smg914 Jan 21 2010, 10:10 PM

Definitely blood brothers.

Posted by: smg914 Jan 21 2010, 10:11 PM

Soon, very soon, the story will be told.



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Posted by: hot_shoe914 Jan 21 2010, 10:48 PM

I have my six dead presidents for the flares. Now I just have to talk myself into pulling the trigger. With money as tight as it is these days 600.00 is a wad to have just sitting around for a year or so until I can afford to pay somebody to install the flares. Still thinking........sure wish this had taken place in March.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 22 2010, 02:02 PM

And I promise you that it will never happen again. Although we have the tooling paid for (that is why the price is so low) we will never again get the quantity together to make another run, so although they will continue to be popular we will not come off the tooling included price of 1150 a set and the best wholesale break will be 795 for a quantity. Plus we have to run a hundred sets, and with all of the other stampings we have planned the flares will not be made again any time soon (AND YOU KNOW WHAT SOON MEANS AT AUTOMOBILE ATLANTA from the thread about "I owe
George an apology!!) (excuse the capitals, new keyboard!)

Posted by: jmill Jan 22 2010, 02:56 PM

Great. Just as I'm getting enough scratch together for an engine you make me think about another set of flares.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 22 2010, 03:29 PM

The body is the most important thing. If you have no body you have no car. One can get a lot further with a good body than with a good engine!!!!!!!

Posted by: Steve Jan 23 2010, 11:48 AM

Is that Blue Gemini Blue or Adriatic Blue? I think you have both but I was curious which one this is.

Posted by: StratPlayer Jan 23 2010, 11:59 AM

At this rate, there won't be any narrow body 914's left out there.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 23 2010, 12:50 PM

Here are some pictures of the factory 916 that steve took at the Charlotte Parade along with our limited edition:

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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 23 2010, 12:57 PM

Steel flares look good on the 914 but I do not particularly like the silver painted roof and lack of side vinyl!


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Posted by: 914coop Jan 23 2010, 08:06 PM

Payment sent for 1 set

Posted by: mepstein Jan 23 2010, 08:26 PM

Awesome! Keep them coming everyone. Thanks, Mark

Posted by: Frost Jan 25 2010, 12:22 PM

Hi ive been lurking the boards and specially this topic, and i really want to get my hands on a set. So should i send $785 for a set and rockers?

Posted by: mepstein Jan 25 2010, 01:15 PM

Yes!!! Call me with any questions. Mark 302.355.0684

Posted by: hcdmueller Jan 25 2010, 03:28 PM

As they say "The check is in the mail" (or money order in this case) for one set of flairs. Can you PM or email me when you get it?

Posted by: mepstein Jan 25 2010, 04:00 PM

Honestly, It's a little much to PM 40 members since user names don't always match real names. I will make a list of all orders I receive and post to this site so members can cross check against what they ordered. You can also call me with any questions but give some time for me to receive your checks. Hope that sounds fair to everyone. Thanks, Mark

Just received an order from Denmark!

Posted by: hcdmueller Jan 25 2010, 05:19 PM

Your plan sounds way better than mine. I going to get another beer.

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Jan 25 2010, 05:41 PM

Okay, made the decision today to part with my dead presidents in exchange for a set of flares. Just gotta scratch up some rocker money. I think I have a plan that will allow me to have them installed & have the car painted this year, along with installing a new 200hp motor. With a lot of luck maybe in time for MUSR 11 down on The Dragon.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 25 2010, 06:47 PM

Awesome!!! Get your money in asap since the offer will close out on the 31st. Then it will be a race to see who gets "flared" first.

Posted by: ghopkins Jan 26 2010, 02:32 AM

Mark Epstein,

I will send you a USPS money order for $785 tomorrow for 1 set of GT flares and 1 set of GT rocker panels. Thanks again for handling this.

Gabe Hopkins

Posted by: zymurgist Jan 26 2010, 01:38 PM

Mark,

Put me down for one set. The money order is in the mail.

Ken Majewski

Posted by: Frost Jan 26 2010, 02:05 PM

Mark,

Count me in, i sent the money order in the mail today and i sent you an e-mail too.

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 26 2010, 02:21 PM

I have been dreaming of flaring my 914 for over 20 years ..... and now I will be one step closer!!!!

Posted by: kerensky Jan 26 2010, 02:22 PM

Hmmm, hadn't been on here in awhile and just happened to poke my head in, so I'm just now hearing about this. You need money in hand by the 31st, or firm commitment, say money order in FedEx with tracking number emailed to you by the 31st?

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 26 2010, 02:35 PM

That can be fixed very easily, seeing as how you are friends with the Dr. from Auto Atlanta

Posted by: mepstein Jan 26 2010, 02:51 PM

Yes. asap. Please call me and we'll make sure your up to speed. Thanks, Mark 302.355.0684

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 26 2010, 03:05 PM

This is the greatest thread of all time !!!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 26 2010, 03:20 PM

Stored in my parents garage for 22 years and on it's way to being "reborn". My 13 year old son thinks he's going to drive it. Yea right, get your own toy!


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Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 26 2010, 04:05 PM

nice looking car! Too clean to flare!

Posted by: ghopkins Jan 26 2010, 04:37 PM

Mark Epstein,

I sent my money order today USPS Express Mail. You will get it tomorrow by 1500hrs and you will have to sign for it. Thanks.

Gabe Hopkins

Posted by: mepstein Jan 26 2010, 04:37 PM

Been waiting 26 years - It's getting flared!
When I buy an origional six (keep me in mind guys) I promise not to flare it.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 26 2010, 04:41 PM

Gabe - No problem. Receptionist is at my office 8:30am-5:30, Mon-Fri. That's why I gave out my office address.

Posted by: scotty b Jan 26 2010, 05:19 PM

They won't look very good on a tail dragger Ken

Posted by: zymurgist Jan 26 2010, 05:26 PM

Hey, just stocking up on 914 parts. Mark my words, I will own one one day.

Posted by: scotty b Jan 26 2010, 05:35 PM

They'll be a bitch to weld onto the Vette too

Posted by: zymurgist Jan 26 2010, 05:45 PM

Actually I think some wide Fuchs would look pimpin' on the big Benz...

Posted by: DBCooper Jan 26 2010, 05:46 PM

Ha Ha! That's funny Scotty, good one!

Posted by: scotty b Jan 26 2010, 05:48 PM

Flared Benz Eh? NOW we're talkin'

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 27 2010, 04:38 PM

Too clean ??? My 914 is just as clean or cleaner and I am gonna flare it. I was hoping to find one that was not as nice but this is what I bought and unless someone wants to trade my super clean 1973 injected 1.7 for a project ....... the saw, cutting wheels and TIG welder are coming out as soon as I recieve my steel AA flares

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 27 2010, 04:40 PM

Flare it !!!

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Jan 27 2010, 05:17 PM

Did I happen to mention that my money order is on the way for one set of flares!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 27 2010, 05:26 PM

I do not believe in cutting a nice 914 EVER! That means no lumping it with strange engines no color changes no carburation and NO FLARES!!
Flares are to help correct bad body work or to transform a ragged 914 into a thing of GT beauty.

However we DO have over 200 up the street begging to be brought back, and I am sure that they would accept anything you wanted to do to them, and so would I!!!!!!!!!! The more 914s on the road the better.
By the way it is Chad Dixon's birthday today (37) and he is busily working on his steel flared, rotory powered 914!!!!!!!!!! He calls it his 913x

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 27 2010, 09:54 PM

Hey George, how about a free 914 (and title) with the purchase of a set of flares and rockers?

It will be a sin to cut my rear quarters, so clean and pretty...

Posted by: mepstein Jan 27 2010, 10:07 PM

I've read over 20 threads of various "rustorations". Lots of time and money. Lots! Even the guys who weld spend money on the replacement metal and supplies. Most of the threads I've read are 3+ years long and don't have finished pictures of the car. So I'm lead to believe they are still on jackstands in the garage. I'm still picking up the rust free roller (rust free because PO spent $4K on rust repair) but I will probably resell since I don't have time or ability to put it back together.

Posted by: John Jentz Jan 28 2010, 10:16 AM

Ok, somebody has to be the last guy in. Is it me? I'll take one set of flairs and one set of GT rockers. Can I pick them up at AA as I live x20min from there? On my way to the bank, PO and FedEx. Thanks for doing this

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 28 2010, 12:34 PM

GT flares is the reason I bought my 1973 1.7 914. It is clean, low rust, doors close nicely with FI that still works. I tried buying a basket case to flare but the examples I saw at the time were very bad shape considering what the owners wanted for them.

The one I ultimately bought had a high asking price but we had good conversation and the guy liked the idea I was gonna turn it into a GT.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2010, 12:40 PM

John - No. But everyone appreciates your order. I received this 5 minutes ago:


From: Sean Molloy
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:35 PM
To: Mark@MarkEpstein.net
Subject: flair group buy

2 sets Steel flairs

1 set flared rockers

Shipped to my shop

Sean molloy
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Its in my pocket. I’m headed to PO in 20 minutes

Have you sent payment to me yet? Thanks, Mark

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BTW - It's ok to be a little late to the party if you order 2 sets :>)

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2010, 12:48 PM

OK, I have to confirm the 11 sets ordered overseas and paid by wire transfer but....I have a count that totals-


wait for it




wait for it




still waiting?



41 SETS OF FLARES!!!!

Posted by: sawtooth Jan 28 2010, 12:54 PM

Yeeeha!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 28 2010, 03:26 PM

That is a great idea. If I could get 40 participants who would be willing to buy 1500.00 worth of 914 parts, for each I would give them a free 914 (with title) to restore! I donate the 914 and YOU save it!

Posted by: pktzygt Jan 28 2010, 04:30 PM

You have #42 in the mail. Guaranteed delivery by 3 tomorrow. Sorry so late.

Posted by: pktzygt Jan 28 2010, 04:31 PM

That's one heck of a group buy. Who is putting this one together? I'm going to have to sell another car.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2010, 04:42 PM

No problem, we'll get your name on the list. Thanks, Mark

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2010, 08:10 PM

Paid – Check received

Chris Mueller 1 flare
Dean Mikel 1 flare 1 rocker
Ken Majewski 1 flare
Andy Szyszkowski 1 flare
David Bomon 1 flare 1 rocker
Ben Thomas 1 flare
Roy Robertson 1 flare 1 rocker
Travis Neff-Hochne 1 flare
Yeugenitj Nikolayer 1 flare 1 rocker
Shvithya Yong 1 flare
Hidetsugu Chuuma 1 flare
Michael Harmon 1 flare 1 rocker
Ken Fisher 1 flare
Danel Young 1 flare 1 rocker
Rick Lance 1 flare 1 rocker
Steve Madsen 1 flare 1 rocker
Jeff Robb 2 flares 2 rockers
Tom Buswell 1 flare 1 rocker
Larry Rukavina 1 flare
Irvin Cooper 1 flare
Gabe Hopkins 1 flare 1 rocker
Mark Epstein 1 flare 1 rocker


Check in mail

Sean Molloy 2 flare 1 rocker
John Jentz 1 flare 1 rocker
Karl Anders 1 flare
Jeff Chang 1 flare
Cali guy 1 flare
Andrew Hargraves 1 flare
Edwin Flores 1 flare 1 rocker

Foreign wire transfers
to be confirmed soon – 11 flares

Please don’t panic if I missed you. This is a preliminary list that will be updated over the next couple days. If you see a mistake, call or email me. Thank you all for such a successful group buy!!! Mark Epstein

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 28 2010, 08:22 PM

Hey wait a second, 40 of us are halfway to $1500 worth of parts already!

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Jan 28 2010, 08:28 PM

Don't see my name on the "checks in the mail" list. You have another one heaed your way as I mailed it yesterday.

Posted by: JazonJJordan Jan 29 2010, 05:54 AM

WoW That's fantastic! I would certainly be on that list!

Posted by: mepstein Jan 29 2010, 09:45 AM

Just received money orders:

Cali guy 1 flare
Karl Oygard 1 flare 1 rocker
Edwin Flores 1 flare 1 rocker

Edwin was kind enough to send me a money order without the PAY TO: filled out (blank check) and included the receipt. Edwin, I appreciate the offer of free money but I will take care of it properly.

Thanks again everyone!!! Mark

Posted by: Frost Jan 29 2010, 11:34 AM

Haha yeah, that was my second time dealing with money orders and i didn't know if you were to write on them or what. Thanks for setting this up!

Posted by: RiqueMar Jan 29 2010, 01:13 PM

Flares!!!


The front car (mine) has AA flares, the back one (dads) has factory. As you can see, there is no visual difference.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 29 2010, 01:33 PM

You weren't the only one

Posted by: mepstein Jan 29 2010, 01:34 PM

Just received:

Sean Routten 1 flare 1 rocker

Posted by: mepstein Jan 29 2010, 01:55 PM

Well the guys overseas sure held up there end of the deal. 18 sets of flares!!! I had counted 11 so we are way ahead of expectations and might be on our way to breaking 50 sets.

Posted by: nsyr Jan 29 2010, 02:31 PM

You should have mine today. I sent it priority mail on tuesday. i did forget to put a return address on it. i hope that won't delay it.

Posted by: pktzygt Jan 29 2010, 03:40 PM

Sweet!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 30 2010, 09:40 AM

tick tick tick..........JAN 31ST 11:59 PM AND IT IS OVER THERE IS STILL TIME.

Posted by: Zardozz Jan 30 2010, 12:08 PM

I'm such a fool, I wish I would have caught this tread earlier

Posted by: faux916 Jan 30 2010, 12:16 PM

George, Do you have 40 cars that are rebuildable? I may be in on this one!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 30 2010, 01:04 PM

YES MANY more than 40. Years and years ago an old mentor of mine from Connecticut, Oliver Jones, said upon looking at my 356 cabriolet restoration project, "George I used to cut up 356 speedsters that made your car look like a pile of junk" From that moment on I vowed NEVER to again cut a 914 unless it was horribly crashed. Instead I took them up the street and parked them on our four acres. They rest in peace until someone comes along to save them.

Posted by: faux916 Jan 30 2010, 01:25 PM

Cool! Who's in?

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Jan 31 2010, 10:56 AM

group buys are a pain in the main drain. thanks for putting this together

Posted by: mepstein Jan 31 2010, 11:10 AM

No problem, I had a good time and had fun talking 914 with so many people. Thanks to all the members at this site and others for stepping up in such a short time. Since we are close to 50 sets, I'm considering this a big success. Thanks also to George Hussey at Auto Atlanta for giving us the opportunity.

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 31 2010, 12:18 PM

PMing you on this George...

Posted by: mepstein Feb 1 2010, 12:45 PM

Just received money from:

Andrew Hargraves 1 flare
Donad Russell 1 flare
Sean Molloy 2 flare 1 rocker

Posted by: Frost Feb 1 2010, 01:54 PM

Wow that's insane, almost hitting 50 sets! That machine is going to be working pretty hard in the next couple of weeks.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 1 2010, 02:16 PM

Yea, 49 paid and 5-6 more checks in the mail.
You guys made me look good.
Thanks, Mark

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 1 2010, 03:00 PM

Mark you did a fabulous job, and just to let everyone know how popular 914s and 914 gt conversions are these days,(good for all of us who own one or several!!!) we sold an additional 20 sets to two wholesalers in Germany! (SAME GROUP BUY PRICE)
Like like creating a 73 911 rs clone, 914 gt clones are the rage!
Thank everyone who participated in this group buy.

Posted by: FourBlades Feb 1 2010, 03:22 PM

Oh no! I already have 3 that still need work.

Now I want 10 more...

Can I pick them up at the southeast cancer clinic? I'll get them blasted, welded,
and primered and be ready to paint and assemble.

John

Posted by: mepstein Feb 1 2010, 03:25 PM

Nothings more expensive than a free Porsche.

Posted by: FourBlades Feb 1 2010, 03:33 PM

Read my 1973 thread and see how I saved a lot of money by spending $24,000+ on a $500 914.

It would all be so worth it if I could just get done.

John

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 1 2010, 04:55 PM

you are the man! Save the 914 to hell with the whales!

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 1 2010, 08:17 PM

For some wacked reason I cannot open any of the threads on page 2 of the post menu .................

Posted by: Zardozz Feb 2 2010, 06:13 PM

My check should have arrived today

Posted by: scotty b Feb 2 2010, 06:31 PM

Don't piss off Paul. He just might put a fake bullet in yer chest


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Posted by: mepstein Feb 2 2010, 07:19 PM

Today I received:

Chester Lee 1 flare
Bill Armstedt 1 flare 1 rocker

Thank you, Mark

Posted by: zymurgist Feb 2 2010, 07:56 PM

Funny... I could use rear flares for the tail dragger! It's at least 80 percent of the way to a 2.7 RS clone already.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 3 2010, 12:18 PM

Steel Flare update:
(as told by George Hussey - AA)

checks arrived. We are processing! Thank you again.
I just talked with Tim, and he has the dies out (took two days!) Tomorrow he will load the fronts (that will take a day) and then he will begin doing the fronts, and next week will set up the rears. The production of the 100 sets will take three to four weeks, he will do twenty five sets at a time and trim and send.

Please let me know who paid first and those are the ones who will get their flares first.

------
So it looks like production has begun. I am still receiving the last of the money orders and will send them to AA next week. Thanks, Mark-the flare guy-Epstein

Posted by: nsyr Feb 3 2010, 05:58 PM

Cool Beans!!!!!!

Posted by: enikolayev Feb 5 2010, 02:39 AM

Nice! now to be done with the engine rebuild before they get here...

Posted by: mepstein Feb 8 2010, 01:15 PM

Some more names to add to the list:

Carl Latzel 1 flare 1 rocker
Donald Russell 1 rocker
Stephen Shippey 1 flare 1 rocker
Jeff Chang 1 flare 1 rocker
Nick Preston 1 flare
Bill Almstent 1 flare 1 rocker
Chester Lee 1 flare

Posted by: tomeric914 Feb 13 2010, 08:18 AM

Hey Mark, any update on flare production?

Posted by: mepstein Feb 13 2010, 08:31 AM

Please see post #160, Feb 3rd. My part of the group buy is over so I will let George update us all on flare production. Thanks, Mark

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 13 2010, 09:44 AM

Tim is completing a video on flare production as he is doing it and should have it this week for us. Flared rockers are going out.

Posted by: enikolayev Feb 19 2010, 01:12 PM

Received my rockers today. Box looked undamaged.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 26 2010, 04:48 PM

Steel flares arrived today.

Scotty - Can you weld on tomorrow, paint Sunday and and have me ready to hit the road for Moday? Is that too much??? I'm not in a big rush...

Posted by: sawtooth Feb 26 2010, 05:03 PM

Very nice, hope mine get here soon.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 26 2010, 05:07 PM

we are stamping and sending as they come off the end of the line. The rest of the rockers should be completed at the end of next week and shipped out all at one time.
Please remember that these rockers are fiberglass just like the factory so need to be fitted and sanded and painted! If they look rougher than you thought that is why. They fit great and are exactly the correct length.

Posted by: zymurgist Feb 26 2010, 05:40 PM

I got mine today too! It's dark now so I will look at them tomorrow.

Now all I need is a 914.

Posted by: BenNC Mar 2 2010, 02:03 PM

Will we get notification when our orders ship, or just look for it when it shows up?

Thanks

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 2 2010, 04:52 PM

when we get into shipping 20 sets we will publish the list. We are about to post a video about the making of the flares for every one to see.

Posted by: sawtooth Mar 3 2010, 11:34 AM

My flares arrived yesterday, they look great. Now just waiting on rockers. Thanks Mark & AA!

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Mar 3 2010, 12:12 PM

stop teasing me

Posted by: Frost Mar 3 2010, 12:29 PM

Man i cannot wait til mine get here, gotta wait patiently!

Posted by: david63 Mar 3 2010, 10:18 PM

Mine arrived today... Waiting on rockers and for the welding gods to bestow the ability to install them (first have to get the nerve to chop up a really straight car). Seriously - I will be looking for someone to install these. Probably in the Dallas/Ft Worth area (I do not think any shops in Midland/Odessa could do it the way it needs to be done). If anyone has any body shops in the DFW area that they know could do it right please PM me.

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 4 2010, 07:03 PM

Cool!! I can't wait to get mine so I can start cutting!!!

Posted by: 914coop Mar 18 2010, 11:49 AM

Anyone else still waiting for theirs?

Trying to wait, however since it has been 2 weeks since the last post and no word or flares have showed up. I need to know if i need to be asking more questions to find out where mine are.

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Mar 18 2010, 11:59 AM

im still in teh tease locker

Posted by: snakemain Mar 18 2010, 12:28 PM

Still waiting....on flares and rockers both.

Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 18 2010, 01:49 PM

I PM'd George who instructed me to e-mail Mia (accounting@autoatlanta.com) to find out where I was on the list. I'm in no hurry, but the response was "2 to 4 weeks". I was one of the first to send my money order in FWIW.

Posted by: Zardozz Mar 18 2010, 02:36 PM

I'm still waiting but then again I haven't found anyone to put them, I'm not qualified

Posted by: hcdmueller Mar 18 2010, 02:50 PM

Got my flares a week ago. They showed up in great shape.

Posted by: BenNC Mar 18 2010, 03:39 PM

I spoke with George about a week ago. They had some sets in stock, which is what shipped out already.

The new run is in the final trim stage. I got the same 2-4 weeks estimate.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 18 2010, 04:13 PM

The man in the video said they had some rears left over from the previous order so they could match with the new fronts and send out. I imagine they make a bunch of fronts and then rears to match. Some have shipped and the video makes it obvious that more are being made. I hope everyone receives their order soon and starts posting their own flare build.

Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 18 2010, 05:00 PM

Can you post the link to the video?

Posted by: mepstein Mar 18 2010, 05:25 PM

http://autoatlanta.com/g/flares.php

Posted by: 914coop Mar 18 2010, 05:32 PM

Thanks for the info.....I will keep waiting patiently then

Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 18 2010, 07:43 PM

Nice! Thanks Mark.

Posted by: BenNC Mar 19 2010, 04:00 PM

Got mine today. As noted above, I was early on the list for the newly stamped sets so these should start showing up for everyone.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 19 2010, 04:05 PM

the rockers look beautiful. Our man was buy fitting them for a trim line along the door opening wednesday. Tim is cranking out the flares each day. He just sent me radio face plates they made on their laser cutter and they look GREAT!
We also have the spoiler with out brake ducts that looks great taken right from the old Mitcom / Prototype Plastics mold, one of the many we bought from the company before it went out. Finally those original ABS rockers look absolutely stunning if anyone wants an old 70s look via this dealer provided accessory.

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 19 2010, 05:22 PM

I could use a set of those GT rockers. What do they look like? I would like them as close to M471 option as possible ...

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Mar 19 2010, 10:11 PM

I hope mine show up before I leave for Scotty's & Hershey. If not I will have to pay shipping again to get them to ScottyB.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 19 2010, 10:17 PM

I received my flares but not my GT rockers before I delivered my car to Scotty B so I asked Mia at AA to send rockers direct to Scott. She said no problem.

Posted by: kfish914 Mar 20 2010, 08:51 AM

I received my flares Friday
Now to make up my mind to weld on myself or have some one else do it

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Mar 20 2010, 10:06 AM

They were made from the original factory m-471 GT rockers that the factory installed on the last six. The part we took the mold from even had the original factory part number on it....both sides!!

Posted by: snakemain Mar 22 2010, 05:07 PM

Had a visit from Brown Santa this afternoon! Box full of flares! Now just waiting on the rockers.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 31 2010, 06:45 PM

Just got the GT rockers today. Finish looks great. Super light.


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Posted by: snakemain Apr 1 2010, 06:05 AM

Brown Santa made another visit to me yesterday as well. Haven't had a chance to open the box and check them out yet.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Apr 1 2010, 07:27 AM

very soon do not be glum!

Posted by: mepstein Apr 1 2010, 09:57 AM

Worth the wait. Both flares and rockers are top notch in quality and appearance.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Apr 5 2010, 10:58 AM

Here is the latest, tim just sent this to me.

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:28 PM
To: Accounting
Subject: RE: flares

We are rubber padding the last hit in the press for the rear flares. Those
will be done late today. Then the rear flares need to flanged at the
bottom and cleaned. This takes two people two days to finish. We should
have them all finished and ready to ship by late Wednesday or Thursday
this week. The rear flares take considerably longer to do than the front
ones. Longer than I expected for sure. I can drop ship some for you
tomorrow if you need. Thanks, Tim.

Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 5 2010, 11:02 AM

I can understand this. It seems takes longer that you would think to get production running. You take your best estimates and even pad a little. The key is the product is top notch. I don't mind waiting a bit for quality work.

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Apr 5 2010, 11:03 AM

Cool, maybe my flares and rockers will arrive before I leave for Scotty's. These are going to look so good on my car!

Posted by: RobW Apr 5 2010, 11:16 AM

I'm jealous Shoe.. congrats...

The next next next project for me will be a flared 914...

Posted by: mepstein Apr 5 2010, 11:35 AM

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Posted by: ghuff Apr 5 2010, 12:00 PM

If any of you guys bail on your flares, please sell them to me

I am in MD and was stupid not to get in on this before.


Fail on my part, yes I know

Posted by: tomeric914 Apr 9 2010, 05:02 PM

YES! Brown Santa showed up today with my flares!

Now, where are those rockers...

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Apr 9 2010, 09:07 PM

Brown Santa came to my house today also. Unfortunately I wasn't here and never am when he visits which is why I gave a shipping address to work for my flares and rockers. I guess somebody didn't pay attention and just had them shipped to my house. Takes forever to track them down around here. Probably end up going back to the shipper as I can never be here when they run so I ALWAYS have EVERYTHING shipped to my work. Oh well.

Posted by: mepstein Apr 9 2010, 09:48 PM

Donald - Sorry there was a mistake on shipping instructions. I made a copy of the letter you sent me but I don't have an address other than the return on the envelope. Hopefully you can call UPS and have them redirect or leave a note authorizing them to leave at house. My apologies. Mark


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Posted by: 914coop Apr 10 2010, 05:55 AM

Yes, mine showed up yesterday Came home last night to a large package on the deck. Will be checking them out latter this morning

Posted by: Frost Apr 13 2010, 06:10 PM

My flares came in today, boy was i happy when i walked up to my doorstep to see this nice box sitting there waiting for me! I still don't have my rockers though. Thanks alot AutoAtlanta!


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Posted by: hot_shoe914 Apr 13 2010, 08:10 PM

They have tried to deliver mine twice, once more and they go bye bye. Was going to go pick them up but work during their business hours. Short of a miracle mine will be heading back to AA soon.

Posted by: nsyr Apr 16 2010, 08:59 AM

I got my flares. i had gotten a set a couple years ago but had to sell do to fund shortage.
The set I just got seem to have more 'ripples' in them. I know a little bit is normal but these seem to me fairly significant. I don't recall my last set have any. Any thoughts on this?

Posted by: tomeric914 Apr 16 2010, 02:28 PM

Mine have ripples in them as well. Nothing that can't be fixed but I was expecting them to be smoother from what I had heard. Keep in mind that the factory flares had ripples as well.

Posted by: Zardozz Apr 16 2010, 05:52 PM

I got mine yesterday. YEA!!

Rockers are still incoming.

Posted by: scotty b Apr 16 2010, 06:36 PM

They all do. Unfortunately that is a result of the stamping process

Posted by: cpe May 3 2010, 10:23 PM

So how do you "iron" out or cover up these ripples?

Posted by: SirAndy May 3 2010, 11:23 PM

bondo ...

Posted by: hot_shoe914 May 31 2010, 09:45 PM

Is there anybody out there waiting still other than me. Received Flares well over a month ago but still waiting on rockers.


Shoe

Posted by: tomeric914 Jun 1 2010, 07:50 AM

Check with Mia at Auto Atlanta. My flares and rockers came in April. The rockers had a corrected address on them.