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Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:37 PM

UPDATE 04/2017:

The Limo Project has found a new home!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=307809





Today work has begun on the 914World exclusive "914 Limousine" project!

After years of tossing the idea around, McMark, RobW and i decided a few weeks back that it was time that someone actually build such a monstrosity.

RobW had a bare shell with front end damage so all we needed was another donor to make the front of the Limo.

I bought a '75 roller from Chris Hamilton and Rob and i went to pick it up this morning.

Once at McMark's shop in Sonoma, we started stripping the car, built a second dolly to be able to roll the shell around and started to cut off the rear of the white car and the front of the red car.

Both cuts are rough cuts at this point. Next weekend, we'll start with the more detailed cutting and test fitting.

The final result will be a 4-door, 4 (maybe 5) seater with at least one removable top (maybe two) and all the usual bling one would find in a Limousine.

The paint has yet to be determined but we are leaning towards a certain Porsche period correct 98 color.

Andy


CURRENT STATUS:

- Fixed the huge hole in the front trunk floor ...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=102807&view=findpost&p=1418688


Parts Donations:

- Read here if you'd like to contribute to the 914World Limo project:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103595

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Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:39 PM

Picking up the second car:




The two cars, before the cutting:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:41 PM

Me playing with the plasma cutter:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:44 PM

More cutting. The longs on the later cars have a double walled inner reinforcement that took quite a bit of work to cut through.

Posted by: MoveQik Jan 9 2010, 08:47 PM

Between this and Anklebiter there are some killer projects going on right now! I can't wait to see this baby roll into an event.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:47 PM

Tada!




Closeup of the inner workings of the hell hole. They all have rust there, even if the top of the long looks decent.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:49 PM

Second car, front end ready to be cut:






We're saving the windshield hoop for later:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:51 PM

Nice cut line ...




Almost there:

Posted by: iamchappy Jan 9 2010, 08:53 PM

Cool is it going to have a hot tub wet bar and a barbecue in it......

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:54 PM

Voila!


This gives you a rough idea of the dimensions although we'll be cutting off another 1 1/2 feet or so.

Basically, the front door jamb of the red car will be right at the firewall of the white car.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:58 PM

The list for next weekend includes:

- fine tuning on the cuts
- removing the front bulkhead section on the red car
- removing the rear firewall on the white car
- getting the longs lined up.

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 08:59 PM

QUOTE(iamchappy @ Jan 9 2010, 06:53 PM)

Posted by: silver74insocal Jan 9 2010, 09:09 PM

where do drivers apply? cant wait to see more on this thread

Posted by: steveherman Jan 9 2010, 09:12 PM

omg.
this will be great.
lol
sorta!

Posted by: MoveQik Jan 9 2010, 09:13 PM

Whatcha gonna do between the targa bar of the front car and the door of the rear car? Enclosed or open air?

As for paint...you gotta have big metal flakes.

Posted by: flipb Jan 9 2010, 09:14 PM

Immediate reactions:

1. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=101939&view=findpost&p=1247339!!

QUOTE(kwales @ Dec 7 2009, 04:56 PM)

Posted by: quadracerx Jan 9 2010, 09:15 PM

This is like the "COOLEST THING EVER!!"

Cant wait to see what happens next....I knew Andy had a plot...LOL

Steve

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 09:22 PM

QUOTE(flipb @ Jan 9 2010, 07:14 PM)

Posted by: URY914 Jan 9 2010, 10:05 PM

I like it!

4 or 6?

Posted by: buhs914 Jan 9 2010, 10:17 PM

So the 914 "limo" is going to be a four seater? haha Cool project though!

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 9 2010, 10:23 PM

This would be the correct build for a V8 and an automatic transaxle. Are you going to need to put a frame on it, or keep it unibody?

Zach

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 9 2010, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Jan 9 2010, 08:23 PM)

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jan 9 2010, 10:35 PM

A good friend of mine is doing something similar with three Deloreans (imagine, three gullwing doors on each side). I have seen the car, and it truly is a neat project! There are obviously many crazys in all brands of auto-enthusiasts.

I think the biggest problem on the 914 project is going to be getting enough stiffness in the long chassis. The Delorean has a spine running along its roof that provides structure, and I wonder if the 914 won'd need some sort of support (or some major reinforcement along the rocker panels) to work. I wonder if giving up the removeable top (for the rear passenger compartment), and welding in a roof panel would help the rigidity of the project.

Posted by: McMark Jan 9 2010, 11:41 PM

So nice to finally get this... uh... dream underway.

There's a lot of tricky metal work that's going to need to be done. But once the two cars are together it's going to be pretty much like building any other 914.

Design Considerations:
1. Fully operational and street legal. We want to be able to drive this thing to events as well as even rent it out on the weekends.
2. Four working doors with working roll up windows.
3. Comfortable seating for rear seat passengers.
4. Clean and comfortable interior. I do not want to build a car that doesn't seal right and looks like crap inside.

We have some crazy ideas and a lot of issues to deal with, but I'm extremely confident that we'll be able to build something that's really nice and really exciting.

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Jan 9 2010, 11:42 PM

....Saratoga top cut into a "T" top using a steel center beam for the back passenger compartment?

If you keep the rear compartment a two seater, you could fab up a center console that went from fire wall to fire wall that incoprated several of those cup holders that actually get cool or hot (they make them big enough for a champaign bottle) and you could mount a flat screen below the window opening.

I wonder if there is a way to make the window inbetween the two compartments electric.... you could replace the glass with an upohstered privacy partician!!

bitchen bitchen project!!!!

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 9 2010, 11:52 PM

I would to weld on that thing! Audi turbo 4 cylinder with an auto trans.

Flares or un-flared that is the question?

I think structurally you may have to do a tin top over the rear section but you could use a roof from a BMW 525I Touring. My 95 Touring has a double sunroof. Yes Two sun roofs in the same top. They open really cool too.

Here's a link that discribes how it works.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bmwe34.net/Wiki/img/wiki_up/open_front.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bmwe34.net/Wiki/tiki-index.php%3Fpage%3DDouble%2Bsunroof&usg=__D9Ay5Hra92KOuekRnNzCAYZmacw=&h=188&w=250&sz=7&hl=en&start=12&sig2=BnI3JHYRLqEgMRSVDq3-EQ&um=1&tbnid=NutQ8kzjm0GwuM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3DE34%2Bbmw%2Bdual%2Bsunroof%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1I7TSHB_en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=0W1JS_mVK4vQNM2vpZAJ

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jan 10 2010, 12:01 AM

Auto-cross or daily driver?

Posted by: RobW Jan 10 2010, 12:53 AM

Nice progress Andy and McMark....

It is truly impressive, Andy buys a roller in the AM and a few guys turn it into that by the afternoon.....

Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 10 2010, 01:37 AM

OMG!

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jan 10 2010, 02:04 AM

food for thought.

maybe keep it in the family of sunroofs as VW?

a samba bus style:

cloth sunroof and sky lights

Posted by: SCV Jan 10 2010, 02:13 AM

Very cool idea, I'll be watching with interest.

Posted by: plymouth37 Jan 10 2010, 02:30 AM

HAHAHA F***ing Love it!

Posted by: kwales Jan 10 2010, 01:08 PM

Looks like my prediction was right.......

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=101939&hl=limo

Hmmm..... mebbe I ought to use that crystal ball more......

O crystal ball, where's my next Job???

"Limo Driver"? that can't be right.....


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Posted by: dakotaewing Jan 10 2010, 01:33 PM

I showed this thread to wife, and her reaction was that you would need 4 914's put together to make a limo... 2 914's only equal a normal sized car...!!!

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 10 2010, 01:48 PM

QUOTE(dakotaewing @ Jan 10 2010, 11:33 AM)

Posted by: McMark Jan 10 2010, 03:08 PM

914 Towncar?

Posted by: tod914 Jan 10 2010, 03:17 PM

Make it a 6 wheeler with 2 engines Cool project! Defenitely pimp it out.

Posted by: JRust Jan 10 2010, 03:38 PM

But it will no longer be a true mid engine car

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: scotty b Jan 10 2010, 03:44 PM

Nice try guys. Clearly a photoshop job. April 1st is a couple months away try again then.


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Posted by: KaptKaos Jan 10 2010, 05:10 PM

More inspiration!

Posted by: marks914 Jan 10 2010, 05:55 PM

Tomorrow is my forst day back to work I will see if I can do a couple of sketches.
Mark

Posted by: Borderline Jan 10 2010, 06:00 PM

Holy you guys were serious. I thought you were just talking. Make sure you reinforce the loooonngs!!

Posted by: championgt1 Jan 10 2010, 08:51 PM

Damn! Andy, I was sure you were going to build a truck.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 10 2010, 08:56 PM

After looking at the two tubes lined up again I'm sure you can build that car as a targa top. I think you could actually stretch it a little more.

Posted by: pktzygt Jan 10 2010, 09:32 PM

Like a train wreck.... You just can't look away!

I want to hire it out next time I'm over there. Don't rush, I have no reason to leave here other than to go ride in a 914 limo.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jan 10 2010, 11:01 PM

Very creative, I like the group effort concept. Are we going to see the Limo at WCR 2010 ?

Posted by: quadracerx Jan 10 2010, 11:05 PM

Speaking of WCR 2010 Where is it gonna be?

Posted by: McMark Jan 10 2010, 11:10 PM

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=102032

We're hoping to be there in all the four door glory.

Posted by: Socalandy Jan 11 2010, 12:01 AM

So will the rear window of car #1 become a working privacy glass window??

this is cool

Posted by: Brent Jan 11 2010, 01:28 AM

My kids Love it! This is going to be soo cool. Maybe Hotwheels can finally do a 914, if it was something like this, to fit in with their fantasy hot rod line.

Posted by: stephenaki Jan 11 2010, 05:14 AM

This should be fun to watch!

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 08:06 AM

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 08:13 AM

Needed more "B" pillar!
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QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 09:06 AM)

Posted by: flipb Jan 11 2010, 08:16 AM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 09:06 AM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 08:17 AM

Sorry...needed full tint!




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Posted by: Sleepin Jan 11 2010, 08:24 AM

QUOTE(flipb @ Jan 11 2010, 07:16 AM)

Posted by: nsr-jamie Jan 11 2010, 08:27 AM

This is going to be fun to watch, I am voting for Tangerine and classic leather interior, also you need to get some Fuchs on there for sure

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 08:46 AM

Sorry...just went for "bling" 21s and a hot tub...just FUCHing around.

Posted by: Spoke Jan 11 2010, 08:55 AM

Ken,

Nice mockup. Maybe angle the rear of the B-pillar to match the front of the B-pillar.

914's turn heads. This one will...well...I'm not sure what type of reaction this one will get.

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 09:02 AM

You are right...much better.

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 11 2010, 09:55 AM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 09:06 AM

OK...forget the bling wheels and hot tub...this is serious, right? It's a 914 so the Fuchs stay. Here she is with the newest "B" pillar.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jan 11 2010, 09:30 AM

In order for the rear windows to work, you need to do something else to fill the gap at the B piller. I don't think you want to try to redesign the rear doors, it would be much easier to use the stock window.

Of course, you need to put power windows in! A center privacy glass window should be easy to fabricate - that's just a straight up and down slide.

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 09:57 AM

Good observation...now the doors and glass are stock.

QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Jan 11 2010, 10:30 AM)

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 11 2010, 10:05 AM

The "B" Pillar should be narrow and instead of vinyl should be smoked glass. Make the rear door normal sized and use the fill panel between the doors as a space filler.

Try that.

Posted by: Spoke Jan 11 2010, 10:21 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 9 2010, 11:33 PM)

Right now, the plan is to start with a /4 and later maybe go to a flat /8 ...
Andy

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 10:50 AM

Nah...worn out!

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jan 11 2010, 11:05 AM)

The "B" Pillar should be narrow and instead of vinyl should be smoked glass. Make the rear door normal sized and use the fill panel between the doors as a space filler.

Try that.

Posted by: flipb Jan 11 2010, 11:08 AM

Once the build is done, we must find the owners of this car and challenge them to a race. Or A/X.

Posted by: spare time toys Jan 11 2010, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(flipb @ Jan 11 2010, 11:08 AM)

Once the build is done, we must find the owners of this car and challenge them to a race. Or A/X.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 12:27 PM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 08:50 AM)

Nah...worn out!

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 12:30 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 11 2010, 08:21 AM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 12:52 PM

Love you too man.

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2010, 01:27 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 08:50 AM)

Nah...worn out!

Good. Because this is not your photoshop mockup thread ...

We've had plenty of those in the past. You are by no means the first to try their hand on a photoshopped 914 limo.

This thread is about building the real thing. And yes, shockingly, we already have a plan on what it will look like.

And we already have the babes to pose with it when it's done.
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 01:00 PM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 10:52 AM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 01:11 PM

Sure...that works.

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2010, 02:00 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 10:52 AM)

Love you too man.

In the "I'll poke you with a stick" kinda way?


Andy

Posted by: 9146986 Jan 11 2010, 01:17 PM

How about "suicide" doors on the rear???

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 01:27 PM

If you want to commit suicide just try to contribute without asking permission.

QUOTE(9146986 @ Jan 11 2010, 02:17 PM)

How about "suicide" doors on the rear???

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 02:04 PM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:27 AM)

If you want to commit suicide just try to contribute without asking permission.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jan 11 2010, 02:14 PM

So Andy,

Can you share any details of how this might look? Especially interested in how the roof line will work as the stock roof line/window top edge slopes down towards the rear of the car.

Congrats to you and the Limo team on a cool project!

Got an exterior paint color selected?

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 02:16 PM

Nobody else seemed to mind and in fact were suggesting changes...giving some kudos, etc. You're are a great help to all, and I honestly & sincerely appreciate the great deal I've gleamed from your experience and expertise...really. I hope it continues and you accept this post with no malice. But, sometimes you need to chill a tad....just a tad. I can sense that being one of the "Grandfathers" of this group can be frustrating...newbies coming in and going where others have been warned repeatedly not to go, etc. You know there's been a thread on old targas vs. new targas for example, and get frustrated when (I for example) ask what the difference is without starting a thread search on every question I have. How hard is it to just say there's already a thread without having to add things like "It's not that hard to find guys." Again...what did you lose by me throwing in a coupla Photoshop images I enjoyed making for the group (and you I mistakenly thought) that others seemed to enjoy? Geeshhhhhhhhh.
Love,
Ken

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2010, 03:04 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 11:27 AM)

If you want to commit suicide just try to contribute without asking permission.

How about applying "not-so-common-anymore sense" to your posts?

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 02:23 PM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jan 11 2010, 12:14 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 02:32 PM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 12:16 PM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 11 2010, 02:49 PM

I see and understand your point as well. The problem is one that happens wayyyyyyy too often between people, in person and on the internet. It's called expectations. You have described your expectation of what this thread would entail. I stepped all over that (not having the slightest clue what your unexpressed expectation was).

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2010, 03:32 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 11 2010, 12:16 PM)

Again...what did you lose by me throwing in a coupla Photoshop images I enjoyed making for the group

I see and understand your point.

I'll try to explain mine:

This thread is meant to be a build/progress thread of a car that the owners (Mark, Rob, me) have been planning to build for quite some time now.
The intend was/is to show the progress of our build.
I felt you were spamming this thread with images of how you think our car should look like.


Maybe i do need to lay off the coffee, but it just came across weird which prompted my response.
Andy

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jan 11 2010, 03:20 PM

I would lean towards option 2.) also. I don't think the stock removable top will work due to its curvature unless a curved filler is put in between the ligfted top and the door glass top edge. Even then the roof line will have an ugly 'bump' in it if the stock top is reused.

I think Felix had great difficulty with this same issue of getting custom door glass on the neo914 project. He eliminated the triangle glass, but getting custom door glass was very expensive. I don't think he ever solved it last I heard. Flattening out the top to stretch it the full length of the limo would be as straightforward as possible, but still a lot of work. I hope there is a talented metalworker available. Maybe Marks partner?

Building the edges of the steel top to match the top edge of the stock door glass curvature would be the easiest approach, although still a challenge. With a solid steel top fixed sunroofs could be put in both front and rear - simple plexiglass panels using that rubber marine gasketing 'zip strip' just like the aftermarket moon roofs use. Not sure how to make a removable top panel, but this car screams for it.

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2010, 12:23 PM)

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jan 11 2010, 12:14 PM)

So Andy,

Can you share any details of how this might look? Especially interested in how the roof line will work as the stock roof line/window top edge slopes down towards the rear of the car.

Congrats to you and the Limo team on a cool project!

Got an exterior paint color selected?

Jeff,
we're still debating the roof.

In order to create a smooth line, we need to raise the back of the front targa top and there are several possibilities.

1| We can keep the removable targa top and shim the seals to match the top of the window. This *might* look OK if we keep the targa bar side panels black.

2| Get rid of the front targa top and add a solid steel roof that can be shaped to match the door glass.

3| Leave the top shape and blend in the rear of the top with the roof strip that needs to be added between the two tops. This could be as easy as adding side skirts that 'fake' a smooth roof line ...

4| Get custom door glass.

Andy

PS: I'm leaning towards 2. A solid roof in the front (Maybe a sun/moon roof?) would also help adding strength to the tub.

Posted by: PanelBilly Jan 11 2010, 04:10 PM

Can't wait to see the creature in the raw state. Show me the Limo!

Posted by: RobW Jan 11 2010, 06:10 PM

For the top, I'm thinking plywood.. easy to paint or texture too!

If the top of the windshied loop can be used, it might look funny but it should work, and connect it to your custom Targa pillar. Or are 2 tops end to end really funky?

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 06:20 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Jan 11 2010, 04:10 PM)

Posted by: carr914 Jan 11 2010, 06:40 PM

Are you gonna have Neon lights under the Limo?

BTW; I used to have a Limo Company - the stories I could tell.....

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 11 2010, 06:42 PM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 11 2010, 04:40 PM)

Posted by: bandjoey Jan 11 2010, 08:58 PM

...it's really not intended to redesign your car...unless you want a Texas Limo. High Ground Clearance, leather upholstery, and plenty of horse power.



LOVE THE CAR... I want you to drop us off at Disney Land when it's ready!


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Posted by: Sleepin Jan 11 2010, 09:04 PM

Don't forget the Xbox 360 to play Forza III!

Posted by: Al Meredith Jan 11 2010, 09:25 PM

I saw a show on TV once about a shop in Los Vages that builds stretch limos, they always have a vinyl roof because the metal roofs always warp. The padded vinyl hides the wrinkles .

Posted by: Rand Jan 11 2010, 10:08 PM

Good thing 914s don't have metal roofs.
Actually I think I would use metal (remembering Dan Root's job) around the perimeter. Build the overall roofline you want, make it strong (which would be nice given the extra length) then drop in the open top options how you want. Open top above the driver isn't as important as the back... Where a large open area would be great - for passengers to stand up while cruising the Tahoe gut during WCR! Wait, is that Mrs. C swinging her top around?

Posted by: hot_shoe914 Jan 11 2010, 10:19 PM

Maybe i do need to lay off the coffee, but it just came across weird which prompted my response.
Andy

Posted by: Dr Evil Jan 11 2010, 10:56 PM

Finally, after hearing you all talk about it and scheme at the transmission clinic, it is a nice to see it progressing

Posted by: RJMII Jan 11 2010, 11:17 PM

Nice work! I want to see more pictures.(actual pictures!) I don't even care if they are slightly out of focus... wait, who had the camera?


On the roof ideas... Would building a custom roof out of fiberglass be an option? In a similar fashion to how some of the car stereo guys build sub enclosures. Make the arches and shapes with balsa wood, plywood, etc; then stretch speaker grill cloth over it. Maybe you could build the mold that way to get the lines you're wanting, to get somewhat of a consistency.
Mark's got that vacuum pump, does he have a big enough bag?

Posted by: McMark Jan 12 2010, 12:12 AM

Fiberglass is certainly an option. The roof portion of the build is going to be the only big hurdle to cross. Everything else will be easier.

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jan 12 2010, 01:45 AM

Did you say you have a rough sketch? Can we see it, if so?

I'm curious if you've thought of a triple door limo? It looks like this example has a collapsible middle window or sail panel.



Just more food for thought.

Posted by: dw914er Jan 12 2010, 02:04 AM

I can't wait

Posted by: zymurgist Jan 12 2010, 05:14 AM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 11 2010, 07:40 PM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 12 2010, 05:50 AM

A buddy of mine builds perfect roofs (did one for his Prowler) out of carbon fiber using foam as the mock up. He only does this as a hobby and for his own pleasure. He also did the fenders and air box (looks like the fuel tank) on his V-Rod. Never seen him actually build these things but they are freakin' perfect.

QUOTE(RJMII @ Jan 12 2010, 12:17 AM)

Nice work! I want to see more pictures.(actual pictures!) I don't even care if they are slightly out of focus... wait, who had the camera?


On the roof ideas... Would building a custom roof out of fiberglass be an option? In a similar fashion to how some of the car stereo guys build sub enclosures. Make the arches and shapes with balsa wood, plywood, etc; then stretch speaker grill cloth over it. Maybe you could build the mold that way to get the lines you're wanting, to get somewhat of a consistency.
Mark's got that vacuum pump, does he have a big enough bag?

Posted by: carr914 Jan 12 2010, 07:15 AM

Here's your motor in my garage, I've been waiting to use it for something

Posted by: carr914 Jan 12 2010, 07:16 AM

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 12 2010, 11:19 AM

Hmmm...say the roof were to be made flat and then we would have the window issue. Could we address the issue by modding or adding a shim bracket onto the window regulator to raise the final position of the window in it's closed position?

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 12 2010, 11:42 AM

Cool project.

I like the bus sliding top idea for simplicity and stability.

Have fun with it.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 12 2010, 11:56 AM

QUOTE(RJMII @ Jan 11 2010, 09:17 PM)

Nice work! I want to see more pictures.(actual pictures!) I don't even care if they are slightly out of focus... wait, who had the camera?

Posted by: StratPlayer Jan 12 2010, 12:02 PM

Oh man thats gotta be fun,,,, keep the pics coming. Very cool...

Posted by: Andyrew Jan 12 2010, 12:15 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 12 2010, 09:56 AM)

QUOTE(RJMII @ Jan 11 2010, 09:17 PM)

Nice work! I want to see more pictures.(actual pictures!) I don't even care if they are slightly out of focus... wait, who had the camera?

You'll have to wait until Saturday for more photos.

And no, i didn't take any of the pics ...
Andy

Posted by: al weidman Jan 15 2010, 02:22 AM

T.C., as long as I have been reading these threads, I can't believe " the stuff in your garage". drool, drool. Al. BTW, I'm glad you love 914's.

Always like the unusual, weather shortened or lengthened. Now I've had awful thoughts, putting a 914 front on my bus, sectioning it to the right height, you are really expanding our horizons.

Andy, Mark and Rob, you guys are going to make us proud, can't wait.

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 15 2010, 05:54 AM

OMG! He can also change the length of the seasons!

QUOTE(al weidman @ Jan 15 2010, 03:22 AM)

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 15 2010, 11:41 AM

QUOTE(al weidman @ Jan 15 2010, 01:22 AM)

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Jan 15 2010, 02:02 PM

Sweet
Anyone familiar with the work at Original Customs will know this project will be a great blend of VW/Porsche factory and custom touches. Clean and with purpose. I hope to see OEM Porsche wheels on it, and I hope some fun work-parties are opened to give locals (and those with lots of spare time) and chance to get their wrench or sanding block on it to be part of history.

T.C., that is an amazing engine, it would be in my living room, not garage

Posted by: messix Jan 15 2010, 02:50 PM

QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Jan 15 2010, 01:02 PM)

Sweet
Anyone familiar with the work at Original Customs will know this project will be a great blend of VW/Porsche factory and custom touches. Clean and with purpose. I hope to see OEM Porsche wheels on it, and I hope some fun work-parties are opened to give locals (and those with lots of spare time) and chance to get their wrench or sanding block on it to be part of history.

T.C., that is an amazing engine, it would be in my living room, not garage

Posted by: RobW Jan 15 2010, 03:51 PM

What's the plan for the 3 day weekend? Any cutting? or

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 15 2010, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Jan 15 2010, 01:51 PM)

What's the plan for the 3 day weekend? Any cutting? or

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 16 2010, 01:09 AM

Posted by: Randal Jan 16 2010, 11:23 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 15 2010, 02:07 PM)

QUOTE(RobW @ Jan 15 2010, 01:51 PM)

What's the plan for the 3 day weekend? Any cutting? or

3-Day Weekend?

I'll be at the shop tomorrow. We're going to do more cutting and fine tuning.

Basically, the idea is to have her ready to be welded by the end of the day tomorrow ...
Andy

Posted by: plymouth37 Jan 16 2010, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 15 2010, 03:07 PM)

Basically, the idea is to have her ready to be welded by the end of the day tomorrow ...
Andy

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jan 16 2010, 06:40 PM

Thinking... "Please let Mark be the one taking the photos".



Andy, I almost offered a hand but something popped up last minute.

Is it beer-thirty yet?

Posted by: RobW Jan 16 2010, 08:39 PM

Its looking good....

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 16 2010, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Jan 16 2010, 07:39 PM)

Its looking good....

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 08:42 PM

Today was a good day. We got to the point where we have the longs lined up correctly. The fitment is surprisingly good. We weren't sure at first how well the two parts would mate together, but even the fenders will blend together nicely.

Everything lines up just right!


Cutting out the front bulkhead:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 08:44 PM

Rob trimming the rear end:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 08:46 PM

Test fitting, we did this probably 20 times or so, each time taking a bit more off the fenders etc. to make sure we get a perfect fit.


Still more to cut:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 08:49 PM

Cutting out the front seatbelt mounts as we're going to use these again later:

Posted by: greenie Jan 16 2010, 08:51 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 16 2010, 06:44 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 08:54 PM

Looking pretty good already!

The cars are not level yet, you can see the center being a bit too high. Of course we'll get everything level and square before we do any actual welding:

Posted by: RobW Jan 16 2010, 08:57 PM

QUOTE(greenie @ Jan 16 2010, 06:51 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 16 2010, 06:44 PM)

Rob trimming the rear end:

Rob...put on your safety glasses!!!!

You guy's are whacked!!!! I'm still not sure this is for real?

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 08:57 PM

We got within 1 1/2" of our target, which is the two longs actually mating up to each other.
We need to do some more trimming on the floor-pans and the front firewall needs a relieve-cut for the top of the door pillar to slide in.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 09:00 PM

Quite a lot of leg-room!

Posted by: URY914 Jan 16 2010, 09:00 PM

Andy,

I gotta tell you it looks better than I thought it would.

Posted by: RobW Jan 16 2010, 09:03 PM

I checked out a few limos on the way home and they are absolutely jacked up a few inches...

BTW the full length profile picture doesn't do it justice... the car has an awesome line...

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 09:03 PM

That's it for today. Time for some ...

Once the two halfs are welded together, we'll cut out the white firewall completely to really open up the inside space of the car ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 09:07 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Jan 16 2010, 07:03 PM)

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jan 16 2010, 09:10 PM

Looking great Team Limo

I just had an idea for the top.

If the windshield was raked back, the top of it would lower and a newly-fabbed continuous top would be more or less level with the rear most Targa bar. Mod the middle Targa as needed for height to match.

So is this going to be a 'stock' look narrow body....or you going 'outlaw' with it? Either way its fun watching it come together.

We need a 914 limo smiley now...:914limo:

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 09:16 PM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jan 16 2010, 07:10 PM)

Looking great Team Limo

I just had an idea for the top.

If the windshield was raked back, the top of it would lower and a newly-fabbed continuous top would be more or less level with the rear most Targa bar. Mod the middle targa as needed for height to match.

So is this going to be a 'stock' look narrow body....or 'outlaw' with it? Either way its fun watching it come together.

We need a 914 limo smiley now...:914limo:

Posted by: swood Jan 16 2010, 09:16 PM

I have a new desktop pic. Andy looking like he's ready to hit the drive through for some fried chicken

That's going to be a ridiculously crazy car.

Posted by: Krieger914 Jan 16 2010, 09:21 PM

This is freaking awsome! Good work guys. I am going to have to come by and take a look sometime.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 16 2010, 09:34 PM

I have a suggestion for the top. Glass a windsheild frame to the back of the front targa top so you can slip the rear targa top into the front one.

By using two tops and sectioning them together you could make up the difference in length for the rear compartment.

Because the front targa top archs downward at the targa bar you will need to reshape it to get a clean straight line to the rear top section.

This will allow the removal of the rear targa top then the front targa top. The only problem will be storage....

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 16 2010, 09:54 PM

Very awesome! Not what I had imagined...it is better by all means!

Andy, has anyone ever put air bags on a 914? Would it be possible to do in order to create clearance at railroad tracks and parking lot entrances?

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 10:01 PM

QUOTE(Sleepin @ Jan 16 2010, 07:54 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 10:04 PM

This would certainly suck ...




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Posted by: Sleepin Jan 16 2010, 10:08 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 16 2010, 09:01 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2010, 10:14 PM

QUOTE(Sleepin @ Jan 16 2010, 08:08 PM)

Posted by: bandjoey Jan 17 2010, 12:00 AM

That wasn't so hard was it?
What about Low Rider elevator shocks to be sure of ground clearance?

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jan 17 2010, 10:01 AM

Somebody mentioned a tailgate 914...




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Posted by: burton73 Jan 17 2010, 12:02 PM

This is coming along super nice. A 924 ( I think that is the one) steel sunroof roof for the rear would give you the strength. You may want to use 2 steel sunroofs. That will be very strong and still be very cool.

Bob

Posted by: racerbvd Jan 17 2010, 12:58 PM

Have you guys thought about a set of 17" Rota Fuchs, 7s all the way around & you won't need to flare.. Of course, there is that group buy if you choose to flare it. On running gear, have you thought about using a Boxster engine with a Tip??

This is a cool project!!

Posted by: LarryR Jan 17 2010, 06:54 PM

There was definitely a lot of cutting going on Saturday. I stopped by and did not know what they were building. A good hour and a half went by before I was like ok what are you guys doing. (yes I missed the obvious) Once they told me it was going to be a limo I could not stop looking at it trying to visualize the finished car. This will be very cool to watch come together

Posted by: johannes Jan 18 2010, 08:17 AM

Photoshopped a few hours ...

The images are very large. Click to watch them at full size.

Posted by: johannes Jan 18 2010, 08:18 AM

More

Posted by: johannes Jan 18 2010, 08:20 AM

All these three drawings mean custom side windows
In this drawing the half circle window is not attached to the door

Posted by: johannes Jan 18 2010, 08:26 AM

tricky part

Posted by: Randal Jan 18 2010, 08:29 AM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jan 17 2010, 08:01 AM)

Somebody mentioned a tailgate 914...

Posted by: Randal Jan 18 2010, 08:32 AM

QUOTE(johannes @ Jan 18 2010, 06:17 AM)

Photoshopped a few hours ...

The images are very large. Click to watch them at full size.

Posted by: flipb Jan 18 2010, 08:47 AM

I'm sure it adds complexity, but you've got to find a way to have separate targa tops for front and rear.

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 18 2010, 08:55 AM

Andy...Hurry up...kick his ass...demean...belittle...pleeeeease! Otherwise I'll think you're anti-semitic! Lay him out dude!!!

QUOTE(johannes @ Jan 18 2010, 09:17 AM)

Photoshopped a few hours ...

The images are very large. Click to watch them at full size.

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 18 2010, 11:29 AM

Once everything gets sorted out, you guys should add a powered rear window for the first half of the car. Maybe source the system out of a Honda Del Sol. It would so complete the whole limo theme.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 18 2010, 11:53 AM

QUOTE(johannes @ Jan 18 2010, 06:18 AM)

More

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 18 2010, 11:57 AM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 18 2010, 06:55 AM)

Andy...Hurry up...kick his ass...demean...belittle...pleeeeease! Otherwise I'll think you're anti-semitic! Lay him out dude!!!

Posted by: kwales Jan 18 2010, 11:59 AM

Andy,

Don't know if you have an Engineer on the job but a quick hand calculation can tell you a lot.

I looked up the maximum deflection formula for a beam (the longs) supported at each end (the wheels) and subjected to the big butt test. The maximum deflection of the long will be directed down at the center of the beam equidistant from the wheels whenever the big butted person stands at the center of the car.

The formula is:

Deflection = weight (of big butt) times the longitudinal length ^3 (CUBED)
divided by 48 times Youngs modulus times the moment of inertia for the long.

What this tells us is deflection from the big butt test is a function of the CUBE of the length of the long.

What does that mean?

If the length of the longitudinals is one normal length then one cubed is 1*1*1=1 unit of deflection from a big butt.

If the length of the longs is doubled, then the length used in the equation is twice as long. So 2*2*2=8 times the deflection from the same big butt.

So it's the CUBED length in the equation that's going to give you 8 times the deflection (with the big butt test) when you double the long length.

Might be a little bouncy unless you put in some extra steel.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jan 18 2010, 12:05 PM

Very nice ! Have you considered installing a rumble seat into the rear trunk ? If the limo was used in a parade, dignitaries would need a conspicious place to ride. When not in use, the rear trunk lid would look normal
Plus, you could get seating for two more ...

Can't wait to see the progress pics

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 18 2010, 12:15 PM

QUOTE(kwales @ Jan 18 2010, 09:59 AM)

Posted by: kwales Jan 18 2010, 12:25 PM

Good. Didn't want you to be real surprised if it bounces a lot.

You would be amazed how few engineers bother to do a quick hand calculation for a "reality check". I can't tell you how many times I've seen it done.

Got a fat bottom chick? They work almost as well and are much more entertaining (in a bouncy way) when they jump up and down.....

If they are small, you might have to get two...

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jan 18 2010, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(kwales @ Jan 18 2010, 12:25 PM)

Good. Didn't want you to be real surprised if it bounces a lot.

You would be amazed how few engineers bother to do a quick hand calculation for a "reality check". I can't tell you how many times I've seen it done.

Got a fat bottom chick? They work almost as well and are much more entertaining (in a bouncy way) when they jump up and down.....

If they are small, you might have to get two...

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 18 2010, 12:56 PM

When jew're right, jew're right...I apologize.

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 18 2010, 12:57 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 18 2010, 06:55 AM)

Andy...Hurry up...kick his ass...demean...belittle...pleeeeease! Otherwise I'll think you're anti-semitic! Lay him out dude!!!

Actually, this is all your fault anyways ...


I was told by my co-limo-workers that i was out of line so this time i actually asked for opinions.

QUOTE

We're still debating the roof section. We're open to suggestions.

Sorry to burst your anti-semitic bubble, not going to happen on my watch.
Andy

Posted by: grantsfo Jan 18 2010, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(johannes @ Jan 18 2010, 06:18 AM)

More

Posted by: McMark Jan 18 2010, 02:42 PM

That's pretty close to what we're looking at doing.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Jan 18 2010, 03:06 PM

How about a dual cowl pheaton? Cozy

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 18 2010, 03:36 PM

QUOTE(7TPorsh @ Jan 18 2010, 02:06 PM)

How about a dual cowl pheaton? Cozy

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Jan 18 2010, 03:41 PM

Sweet work people!!!!!!

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 18 2010, 03:45 PM

Posted by: grantsfo Jan 21 2010, 04:50 PM

These guys had similar ideas and capability. Like some of thier touches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6dCuz34LRU

Posted by: Krieger914 Jan 21 2010, 07:47 PM

I like the second steering wheel idea, BUT it should turn the rear wheels! Imagine the fun!

Posted by: McMark Jan 22 2010, 12:28 AM

We thought about leaving the pedal system in the rear car for some fun hyjinks. Front seat steers, bake seat works the gas/brake/clutch and shifts.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 22 2010, 01:35 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 21 2010, 10:28 PM)

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 22 2010, 05:48 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 22 2010, 01:28 AM)

Posted by: maf914 Jan 23 2010, 07:58 AM

QUOTE(kwales @ Jan 18 2010, 09:59 AM)

Posted by: Rod Jan 23 2010, 11:30 AM

Can't believe you are actually making this happen! Love the way you have challed one chassis to 'slot' the other in - this is well on it's way to a superb looking limo. If you can make it look factory I take my hat off to you all.

Now get that V8 lined up to power it

Posted by: Rand Jan 25 2010, 07:50 PM

...with an automatic.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 25 2010, 09:18 PM

When done, you can challenge this other VW to a race

Posted by: RJMII Jan 26 2010, 01:03 AM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 25 2010, 08:18 PM)

When done, you can challenge this other VW to a race

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 26 2010, 05:51 AM

Tell your wife millipedes don't have tires at all!

QUOTE(RJMII @ Jan 26 2010, 02:03 AM)

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 25 2010, 08:18 PM)

When done, you can challenge this other VW to a race

My wife said "It's a friggin millipede, it should have more tires."

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 30 2010, 09:12 PM

Houston, we have a Roller!

No pics from me, McMark took some as did Jeff Keyzer. You'll have to wait until they get around to upload the pics and video.


This went a lot smoother than i had anticipated, we leveled the two halfs, pushed them together, squared the whole thing and , voila!


This is gonna be soooo much fun.
Andy

Posted by: tod914 Jan 30 2010, 09:41 PM

Going with the Warner brother's dixie cup and string intercom? Or perhaps something alittle more high tech

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Jan 30 2010, 09:44 PM

Posted by: silver74insocal Jan 30 2010, 10:20 PM

QUOTE(tod914 @ Jan 30 2010, 07:41 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 01:42 AM

Hey Jeff (Mr. Mighty Ohm, leader of the Resistance):





Andy

Posted by: Dr Evil Jan 31 2010, 02:01 AM

"Leader of the resistance"

Brilliant

Posted by: RobW Jan 31 2010, 07:51 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 30 2010, 11:42 PM)

Hey Jeff (Mr. Mighty Ohm, leader of the Resistance):





Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 12:57 PM

McMark emailed me his pics, so here it goes ...


We added bracing to the inside of the longs on the front portion of the limo and used that to get the two halves tacked together initially.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 01:00 PM

After that, we welded support plates on the outside of the longs and added (temporary) bracing to the top sail-panel to doorjamb and firewall to triangulate the whole mid-section.

This turned out to be plenty strong!

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 01:02 PM

And here she is, rolling for the first time!

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 01:03 PM

Leftovers ...




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Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 31 2010, 01:06 PM

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 01:09 PM

Next weekend, we'll be taking out the front firewall and add some nice support to the longs at the mid-section.
This will also give us an idea of what is needed to mate the two floorpans and the center tunnels.

If we have time, we'll start addressing the sail-panel area.

I'm still amazed at how well the two parts line up. It looks like everything will be pretty straight forward. The only thing that needs some extra attention is the fact that the door-post for the rear is about 1" higher than the fender near the front door handle. We'll have to find a way to blend those together.
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 01:10 PM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 31 2010, 11:06 AM)

Posted by: siverson Jan 31 2010, 01:11 PM

Looks like fun!

Posted by: Gint Jan 31 2010, 01:41 PM

That's gonna be a riot to ride around in!

Posted by: Jacob Jan 31 2010, 01:57 PM

I am trying to fix the rotted area where the bumper bolts on. I sure could use that part of the front end. That is a complicated part to shape.

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Jan 31 2010, 01:59 PM

Isn't that as evil as McCain dumping his first wife just because she got disfigured in a car wreck (not a 914)?

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 31 2010, 02:10 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Jan 31 2010, 11:06 AM)

You could have waited for my next post. The one were i just said that we're going to cut out the whole front firewall anyways. So who cares if it's rusted ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 31 2010, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(Jacob @ Jan 31 2010, 11:57 AM)

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jan 31 2010, 02:35 PM

Wow guys, that looks great. I didn't think it would line up so simply. Great work, can't wait to see the next update.

Posted by: DBCooper Jan 31 2010, 03:26 PM

So let me get this straight, you guys are using two ancestors of the Boxster to build an ancestor of the Panamera? Which is actually not an ancestor so much as a missing link?

Posted by: RobW Jan 31 2010, 04:06 PM

Nice work! and I thought Disneyland was where dreams came true....

Posted by: dw914er Jan 31 2010, 08:38 PM

god this is soo cool

Posted by: Krieger914 Jan 31 2010, 09:00 PM

You guys are almost done!

Posted by: McMark Jan 31 2010, 10:14 PM

I'm still amazed at how straightforward and smooth (I didn't say easy ) this project has been. I have no doubts that it will be plenty strong. There are a few large hurdles to cross yet, but we've gotten a lot farther in three days than I would have expected.

And yes, the white car was rusty. Why do you think we picked it? The funny thing is that once we're a little farther along I will have to take some time to do a little rust repair.

Thanks Andy, mightyohm (Jeff K), and LarryR for their help. It really sped things up during all the measuring, leveling, and straightening. (we checked the balance and alignment of the halves about 30 different ways)

Posted by: tod914 Jan 31 2010, 10:42 PM

I hate to ask this, but are you going to have to cut it in half to get it in the paint booth?

Posted by: bcaschera Jan 31 2010, 10:55 PM

i think two 914s might fit in the booth bumper to bumper, this thing is less one deck lid . Seriosly though, how long is it ? like the size of lincoln continental? or is it acctually approaching true limo size.

Posted by: orange914 Feb 1 2010, 01:26 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 31 2010, 11:03 AM)

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 1 2010, 02:15 AM

QUOTE(bcaschera @ Jan 31 2010, 08:55 PM)

i think two 914s might fit in the booth bumper to bumper, this thing is less one deck lid . Seriosly though, how long is it ? like the size of lincoln continental? or is it acctually approaching true limo size.

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Feb 1 2010, 10:06 AM

We live our dream through you guys.

Anything we (914-World guys) can donate??

Tom

Posted by: Cupomeat Feb 1 2010, 10:50 AM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 12 2010, 08:15 AM)

Here's your motor in my garage, I've been waiting to use it for something

Posted by: Krieger914 Feb 1 2010, 03:12 PM

Hey Mark how about calling it a Twin Targa? Limo and 914 seem to be at odds with each other.

Posted by: FourBlades Feb 1 2010, 03:25 PM

You can shock the pinkie benders by entering it in the next PCA parade autocross.



John

Posted by: McMark Feb 1 2010, 03:41 PM

914Sedan just doesn't have the same ring.

Posted by: URY914 Feb 1 2010, 03:42 PM

I just showed my daughter this thread and she wants it for her senior prom in four years.

Posted by: McMark Feb 1 2010, 03:43 PM

Sounds great Paul.

Posted by: plymouth37 Feb 1 2010, 04:25 PM

Love it!

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 1 2010, 10:01 PM

I got Jeff's pictures today. Not much new stuff, so here are a few more ...

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 1 2010, 10:16 PM

I just now noticed that the rear part of the limo is in fact Patrick's old car that his son ran into a tree ...

At least, she'll live on.


Patrick, if you read this, you'll get free Limo rides for lifetime!
Andy

Posted by: Brent Feb 2 2010, 03:31 AM

At least, she'll live on.


Patrick, if you read this, you'll get free Limo rides for lifetime!
Andy

Posted by: Krieger914 Feb 2 2010, 09:25 AM

Let me know if you guys need parts I may have some.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2010, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(Brent @ Feb 2 2010, 01:31 AM)

QUOTE

At least, she'll live on.

Patrick, if you read this, you'll get free Limo rides for lifetime!
Andy

That is true class Sir Andy! But what if he never reads this?

Posted by: ericread Feb 2 2010, 12:20 PM

QUOTE(FourBlades @ Feb 1 2010, 01:25 PM)

You can shock the pinkie benders by entering it in the next PCA parade autocross.



John

Posted by: RobW Feb 2 2010, 12:24 PM

So what are the next steps?

Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 2 2010, 12:48 PM

I knew you guys could do this, but what about the engine? I want to see how what you were discussing when I was out there is going to materialize

You can put the mini bar in the front passengers seat with access to the rear compartment

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2010, 01:25 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Feb 2 2010, 10:48 AM)

I knew you guys could do this, but what about the engine? I want to see how what you were discussing when I was out there is going to materialize

You can put the mini bar in the front passengers seat with access to the rear compartment

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2010, 01:30 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Feb 2 2010, 10:24 AM)

Posted by: McMark Feb 2 2010, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Feb 2 2010, 10:24 AM)

Posted by: McMark Feb 2 2010, 01:46 PM

Just measured the wheelbase: 148 in. from wheel center to wheel center.

Stock 914 is about 96 in. Which makes it about a 50% increase in length.

Posted by: ppickerell Feb 2 2010, 02:18 PM

On second thought at least it did not end up cut into pcs, oh wait it did. I am so confused!

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2010, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(ppickerell @ Feb 2 2010, 12:18 PM)

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Feb 2 2010, 02:46 PM

Will there be Airport shuttle service available? Will the driver be wearing a chaffeur suit, holding a name card and beer chilling in the bar? I'd pay good cash for that type of service!

Family still lives in San Jose, I go there twice a year.

Posted by: monkei Feb 2 2010, 03:05 PM

Thanks, guys. Now my dad has EVEN MORE reason to hate me for wrecking his teener.

On the other hand, interesting project....

Posted by: RobW Feb 2 2010, 03:42 PM

QUOTE(ppickerell @ Feb 2 2010, 12:18 PM)

On second thought at least it did not end up cut into pcs, oh wait it did. I am so confused!

Posted by: ppickerell Feb 2 2010, 09:45 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Feb 2 2010, 02:42 PM)

QUOTE(ppickerell @ Feb 2 2010, 12:18 PM)

On second thought at least it did not end up cut into pcs, oh wait it did. I am so confused!

You have to admit.. it looks good!

Posted by: McMark Feb 2 2010, 09:54 PM

That's some good medicine....

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2010, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 2 2010, 07:54 PM)

That's some good medicine....

Posted by: bandjoey Feb 2 2010, 11:22 PM

The chauffeur will be wearing a Hawaiian shirt, a sailing cap, shorts and flip flops! It's the 914 way.

Posted by: RobW Feb 5 2010, 10:05 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 2 2010, 08:07 PM)

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 2 2010, 07:54 PM)

That's some good medicine....

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 07:36 PM

Cutting the firewall:




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Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 07:39 PM

We moved the doors to the back and started mocking up the roofline:

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 07:41 PM

Firewall out! This really opens up the inside space:

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 07:42 PM

This is going to need some cleanup and welding ...




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Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 07:44 PM

Two more:

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 07:50 PM

The lower portion of the firewall will stay. We already seam-welded the top shut and we'll add a flat section to the back to get a nice clean box. It'll add to the strength of the center portion and also give us a clean transition to the floor-patch that still needs to be added.

The front portion of the rear center tunnel will be replaced with a custom piece for better looks.

The side areas will have substantial bracing added on the inside from the doorposts up into the rollbar area. Then the whole side will be closed up with a smooth patch-panel.

For the roof, it looks like we will in fact be able to keep both targa tops for the front and rear. We came up with an idea that would give us a nice roofline and still have the front top removable as well. We shall see ...



Any local volunteers for Saturday the 20th??? We could need some hands as we will have to do a lot of cleaning, grinding and prepping of the inside before we weld in all the reinforcements and panels.
Andy

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 6 2010, 07:51 PM

my thought is two targa roofs with a targa band between, The separation, after all shows the client and chauffeur are two different entities.

Nice Job , will be great FUN.

Posted by: scotty b Feb 6 2010, 07:56 PM

This is rediculous. We all know you can't limo a 914

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 6 2010, 08:09 PM

Posted by: plymouth37 Feb 6 2010, 08:36 PM

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 6 2010, 10:18 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Feb 6 2010, 05:56 PM)

This is rediculous. We all know you can't limo a 914

Posted by: Sleepin Feb 6 2010, 10:29 PM

Andy, bench seat in the back? Maybe even an L bench?

Posted by: busmech Feb 6 2010, 10:30 PM

To bad there are not to many options for a automatic trans, would make it easy for the shift linkage. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: RJMII Feb 6 2010, 10:37 PM

QUOTE(busmech @ Feb 6 2010, 09:30 PM)

To bad there are not to many options for a automatic trans, would make it easy for the shift linkage. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: McMark Feb 6 2010, 11:49 PM

I still can't really believe how smoothly this project is going. I figure another month or so and we'll be installing interior and thinking about motor/trans.

Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 7 2010, 12:22 AM

Convert a TIV to diesel

Posted by: KaptKaos Feb 7 2010, 12:29 AM

QUOTE(bandjoey @ Feb 2 2010, 09:22 PM)

The chauffeur will be wearing a Hawaiian shirt, a sailing cap, shorts and flip flops! It's the 914 way.

Posted by: RobW Feb 7 2010, 12:34 AM

Yeah! Nice progress guys!

Posted by: Heeltoe914 Feb 7 2010, 12:45 AM

What a great job guys. Fast work to.

I think you should start a "Donate to the Limo Fund" but the donation is parts?

I am sure you guys have already been thinking about this stuff but??? Here is some parts I was thinking about;

Wood bar with leather trim.
Intercom system
Seats
SC front end for vented rotors
Bigger brakes
Shift bar parts
Longer clutch and gas cable. etc....
How about the MR2 setup of cable shifting??
914 interior bits, window cranks, crome cover for the locks,

Things that we can send to you to help the project come along. Just post what you guys need team work.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 7 2010, 03:30 PM

QUOTE(Heeltoe914 @ Feb 6 2010, 10:45 PM)

Posted by: grantsfo Feb 8 2010, 11:57 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 7 2010, 01:30 PM)

We have the need for a few things ...
Andy

Posted by: RobW Feb 9 2010, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Feb 8 2010, 09:57 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 7 2010, 01:30 PM)

We have the need for a few things ...
Andy

like common sense.

Posted by: grantsfo Feb 9 2010, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Feb 9 2010, 02:00 PM)

QUOTE(grantsfo @ Feb 8 2010, 09:57 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 7 2010, 01:30 PM)

We have the need for a few things ...
Andy

like common sense.

Got any?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Feb 9 2010, 04:59 PM

That's quite obvious, Grant--after all, who puts phone dials on a Boxster??

... Probably the same sort of person who drives a 914!!


Oh, wait!

--DD

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 9 2010, 05:30 PM

Why did the firewall come out? I would have thought a privacy partition would be in order? Electric window?

Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 9 2010, 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM)

Posted by: Ferg Feb 9 2010, 05:48 PM

Every time I look at this thread, I'm reminded of this scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixDpqVtXbfQ

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2010, 06:05 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM)

Posted by: McMark Feb 9 2010, 06:26 PM

Three guys wanna head over to the beach in a four seater 914, you wanna be the loser in the back by yourself?

This way four people can ride and converse easily. Having sat in the chassis with the firewall and without, I wouldn't build it any other way.

I'm gonna stop calling it a limo, cause a real limo would be built completely differently and would have things like a privacy screen. This is the 914 Saloon.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2010, 06:37 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 9 2010, 04:26 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2010, 06:42 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 9 2010, 04:26 PM)

Posted by: 7TPorsh Feb 9 2010, 06:42 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2010, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(7TPorsh @ Feb 9 2010, 04:42 PM)

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 9 2010, 07:12 PM

Posted by: Sleepin Feb 9 2010, 07:23 PM

Isn't the sole purpose of the partition to avoid open container laws? Might want to reconsider.......

Posted by: jmill Feb 9 2010, 07:26 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 9 2010, 06:42 PM)

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 9 2010, 04:26 PM)

I'm gonna stop calling it a limo, cause a real limo would be built completely differently

I think you are WRONG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limousine

Andy

Posted by: FourBlades Feb 9 2010, 08:01 PM

Hey, you need to post warnings before slapping in those kind of pictures!!!

Posted by: scotty b Feb 9 2010, 08:14 PM

I dub thee : NINE FOUR 'TANG

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Feb 9 2010, 08:42 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Feb 9 2010, 09:14 PM)

Posted by: scotty b Feb 9 2010, 08:44 PM

Uh ....yeah...about that ....I was referring to the POON not the Must

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Feb 9 2010, 08:46 PM

No problem...I can Photoshop THAT too!

QUOTE(scotty b @ Feb 9 2010, 09:44 PM)

Uh ....yeah...about that ....I was referring to the POON not the Must

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 9 2010, 08:48 PM

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Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Feb 9 2010, 08:58 PM

Uh ....yeah...about that ....I was referring to the POON not the Must

Posted by: racerbvd Feb 9 2010, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Feb 9 2010, 06:46 PM)

No problem...I can Photoshop THAT too!

QUOTE

Uh ....yeah...about that ....I was referring to the POON not the Must

Posted by: bigkensteele Feb 9 2010, 09:07 PM

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Feb 9 2010, 07:01 PM)

QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Feb 9 2010, 06:46 PM)

No problem...I can Photoshop THAT too!

QUOTE

Uh ....yeah...about that ....I was referring to the POON not the Must

No Photo shop needed

Posted by: al weidman Feb 9 2010, 10:13 PM

Nice car.

The Feb. Excellence has a 911 sedan that is in the spirit of your project. Chick Iverson also had a VW bug sedan. Would a 944 sedan look like a Panamera?

Posted by: grantsfo Feb 9 2010, 10:15 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 9 2010, 04:26 PM)

Three guys wanna head over to the beach in a four seater 914, you wanna be the loser in the back by yourself?

Posted by: scotty b Feb 16 2010, 07:44 PM

BOTTOM of page 4 ????

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 16 2010, 09:22 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Feb 16 2010, 05:44 PM)

BOTTOM of page 4 ????

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 20 2010, 07:23 PM

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 21 2010, 08:59 PM

We reached the cleanup & patch phase.

Today, we removed the mid section of the center tunnel. It'll be replaced with a custom (removable) version. It'll be nice to be able to access everything inside the tunnel in the center section of the car.
We'll have to run all custom cables, wires and fuel-lines etc.. The new tunnel will be narrower and lower than the stock tunnel.

We also patched the sides of the floorpan. The mid-section requires some creative metal bending. We'll add that next weekend.

The rest of the day was spent cleaning up and prepping the side sections around the inside of the targa bar to door post transition.
That part will also be patched in next weekend.



And here are the pix:


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Posted by: Sleepin Feb 21 2010, 09:27 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 21 2010, 07:59 PM)

We reached the cleanup & patch phase.

Today, we ...

We'll ......
We also .........

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 21 2010, 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Sleepin @ Feb 21 2010, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 21 2010, 07:59 PM)

We reached the cleanup & patch phase.
Today, we ...
We'll ......
We also .........

But it looks like Mark is the only one working.

Posted by: Brent Feb 22 2010, 01:18 AM

No.1, girl in purple on the pole needs a wax or shave.
N0 2, HD channel just showed a Ferrari Medina(?) Limo. They have Gull wing doors for the center section, and race seats with 5 point harness stacked behind each other. I took some pics, will look for a link , however. Interesting take.

Posted by: RobW Feb 22 2010, 08:18 AM

What? No glass bottom?

Nice work guys!

Posted by: Brent Feb 22 2010, 11:48 AM

http://jalopnik.com/360854/ferrari-360-modena-limousine-or-how-to-look-ridiculous




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Posted by: zymurgist Feb 22 2010, 01:21 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 9 2010, 07:42 PM)

QUOTE(McMark @ Feb 9 2010, 04:26 PM)

I'm gonna stop calling it a limo, cause a real limo would be built completely differently

I think you are WRONG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limousine

Andy

Posted by: Randal Feb 22 2010, 01:23 PM

QUOTE(Brent @ Feb 22 2010, 09:48 AM)

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Feb 22 2010, 02:33 PM

An yet another idea.

By the way, I've got a rear trunk lid with luggage rack you can have, if wanted.


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Posted by: SirAndy Feb 22 2010, 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Marty Yeoman @ Feb 22 2010, 12:33 PM)

Posted by: faux916 Feb 22 2010, 04:07 PM

This looks like an amusement park ride. I bet if that door feel on you you would be dead!


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Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 22 2010, 04:52 PM

Nice haircut Mark!

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 27 2010, 09:04 PM

Today we finished the rear floorpan and did some cleanup on the crossmember.

There was a lot of fab-work involved and it took the whole day, but it was well worth it. The transition between the rear floorpan and the front floorpan turned out really nice and it'll enable us to do a clean install of the custom center tunnel piece needed.


The hole:



Restoration Design floor pan used as a donor for patches:



McMark welding:



Old heater tube outlets removed:



Patch welded in:



Me grinding down some of the weld on the crossmember:



Cleaned up and primered:



Center portion finished:



And the final shot, voila!

Posted by: siverson Feb 27 2010, 09:41 PM

This is really neat!

Posted by: siverson Feb 27 2010, 09:41 PM

Are you going to have front and rear heat? Heat is always nice...

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 27 2010, 09:47 PM

VW gas heater may be in order. The floor looks nice! Strange without the rear tunnel.

Posted by: RobW Feb 27 2010, 10:07 PM

Keep up the good work!

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 27 2010, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(siverson @ Feb 27 2010, 07:41 PM)

Posted by: McMark Feb 27 2010, 11:35 PM

But since the heater tube aren't connected, the whole long becomes a heat-distribution-box. With the oval outlets being the heater vents. An Eberspacher would be a GREAT addition if we can find a place to mount it. Defrost is always a problem on cold mornings.

Posted by: Sleepin Feb 28 2010, 02:35 AM

I see McMark finally made Andy work!

Looks great guys!

Posted by: McMark Feb 28 2010, 01:17 PM

Poor Andy.

Posted by: tdgray Mar 1 2010, 09:15 AM

Go boys GO

Posted by: racunniff Mar 1 2010, 10:04 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2010, 11:30 AM)

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 11 2010, 08:21 AM)

A flat /8 sounds exciting. This would be the race motor, yes?

Funny that nobody else picked up on this.

We don't need speed, we need torque. We'll use whatever we can spare for now just to get it rolling.

But in the long term, a flat /8 is on the drawing board. Somewhere in the 3.5L to 4.0L range. It's being blueprinted as we speak.
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 12:19 PM

This weekend was not picture worthy.

Lots of labor but mostly unspectacular prep work for next weekend.


We scraped off all the tar from the floor-pans to get a better idea of what amount of rust might lurk underneath. They were surprisingly solid and only need a few patches.

I also removed parts of the handbrake system. We will run a metal tube next to the long and use a custom cable to simply hook the front handle to the stock splitter in the back.

I cut all the patch pieces needed to finally connect the front targa bar with the rear door jambs to get a solid, permanent connection. This should really stiffen up the center portion of the car.

We decided to change our plan of attack a bit and get the car drivable as soon as we're finished with the major metal work.
The reason being that we want to be able to find (and eliminate) any problems related to the chassis itself that would only be obvious when driving the car.
You can only test so much while it's sitting on jack-stands.


Once we feel confident about the chassis and the basic mechanics, we can switch gears and start making her look pretty.
Andy

PS: If you want to swing by, the next Limo workday will be Saturday, 03/13 at McMarks shop in Sonoma ...

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 01:03 PM

This mockup by Johannes is pretty close to what we have in mind. As you can see in the second image below, the center section between the two cars is a bit wider as in the mockup.

I really like the look of the small rectangular side window and the rectangular b-pillar. It'll flow nicely with the lines.
The side window will be the full width of the original triangle window.

One problem area will be the transition between the two cars. The rear of the front door is actually a good 1" lower than the front of the rear door. This part will be tricky.

We also figured out how to have a straight roofline and still be able to retain both targa tops. We even figured out how to fit two tops in the rear trunk without cutting the trunk!

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 07:03 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 8 2010, 10:19 AM)

Posted by: Rand Mar 8 2010, 07:07 PM

Posted by: McMark Mar 8 2010, 07:15 PM

Going to sit on my ass in a cabin and drink, maybe go snowshoeing. After dealing with Andy for TWO days this weekend, I need a vacation.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Mar 8 2010, 05:15 PM)

After dealing with Andy for TWO days this weekend, I need a vacation.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 11:09 PM

Quick mockup of what we have in mind ...

Andy




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Posted by: tod914 Mar 8 2010, 11:11 PM

Two removable tops Andy? Should be quite the machine when done.

Posted by: racerbvd Mar 8 2010, 11:11 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 8 2010, 09:09 PM)

Quick mockup of what we have in mind ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 11:16 PM

QUOTE(tod914 @ Mar 8 2010, 09:11 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 8 2010, 11:19 PM

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Mar 8 2010, 09:11 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 8 2010, 09:09 PM)

Quick mockup of what we have in mind ...

What, no 911 brakes & fuchs??

Posted by: McMark Mar 8 2010, 11:28 PM

The front targa top will end more in line with the front edge of the sail panel. That will avoid a weird step in the roll bar top.

Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 9 2010, 01:07 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Mar 8 2010, 05:15 PM)

Going to sit on my ass in a cabin and drink, maybe go snowshoeing. After dealing with Andy for TWO days this weekend, I need a vacation.

Posted by: Rand Mar 9 2010, 01:23 AM

ROB!! Got your tix bro. In the bag. Looking forward to Yopu and Beckster at the steakhouse (or one of another hundred venues I have on hand around here)

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 14 2010, 02:23 PM

We got the front targa bar tied into the rear door jambs yesterday!


No pics yet as they are on McMarks camera and he's somewhere in a cabin in Tahoe right now, probably with a massive hangover ...
Andy

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Mar 14 2010, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Jan 12 2010, 08:15 AM)

Posted by: RobW Mar 14 2010, 10:05 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 14 2010, 12:23 PM)

McMarks somewhere in a cabin in Tahoe right now, probably with a massive hangover ...
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 17 2010, 09:06 PM

Here are the pics ...

















Andy

Posted by: McMark Mar 17 2010, 09:10 PM

It's gettin' there.

The cabin was GREAT!

Posted by: siverson Mar 17 2010, 10:02 PM

Looks good!

Oh, I meant to remind you: put in seat belt bolts.

-Steve

Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 17 2010, 10:04 PM

Nice! I really like the front door idea we talked about. That is going to resolve a huge issue.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 18 2010, 11:26 AM

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Mar 17 2010, 09:04 PM)

Posted by: r_towle Mar 18 2010, 04:13 PM

It should have suicide doors.

Rich

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 18 2010, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Mar 18 2010, 03:13 PM)

Posted by: bcaschera Mar 19 2010, 11:42 AM

ip: You guys are crazy... In the best kin of way. Still planning on having it done in time for WCR?? I hope i get to ride in this beast on day

Posted by: tdgray Mar 19 2010, 01:08 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 18 2010, 06:25 PM)

QUOTE(r_towle @ Mar 18 2010, 03:13 PM)

It should have suicide doors.

No, it shouldn't ...

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 19 2010, 01:10 PM

QUOTE(tdgray @ Mar 19 2010, 12:08 PM)

your getting grumpy in your old age Andy

Posted by: tdgray Mar 19 2010, 03:24 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 19 2010, 03:10 PM)

QUOTE(tdgray @ Mar 19 2010, 12:08 PM)

your getting grumpy in your old age Andy

Actually, i was born grumpy.

Just like the other 80 million Germans ...
Andy

Posted by: URY914 Mar 25 2010, 07:44 PM

I ran across this pic today and it reminded me of the Limo project. What is the latest?

Posted by: McMark Mar 25 2010, 07:47 PM

Couple weekends off.

Posted by: URY914 Mar 25 2010, 07:52 PM

Oh BTW, Andy I found your tool box........

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 25 2010, 08:54 PM

Cool!

I'll PM you my mailing address right now ...
Andy

QUOTE(URY914 @ Mar 25 2010, 06:52 PM)

Oh BTW, Andy I found your tool box........

Posted by: URY914 Mar 25 2010, 08:59 PM

Sorry, I don't really have it, all I have is a picture.

Posted by: Rico Suave Mar 25 2010, 10:33 PM

I hear Brad has some time now that he's shutting down his websites....ask him to come up and you can bury the hatchet.....somewhere....

Posted by: McMark Mar 27 2010, 07:24 PM

Great work day! Andy will post pics when he gets home. We got a ton done and hit a milestone by getting the side walls complete, including the seat belt mount plates. Yippee!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 27 2010, 08:36 PM

And here are the pics ...





















Andy

Posted by: Sleepin Mar 27 2010, 08:40 PM

Posted by: Rico Suave Mar 27 2010, 08:43 PM

BTW, how youse maniacs gonna register that thing? Limos require special plates and inspections.......

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 27 2010, 08:57 PM

QUOTE(Rico Suave @ Mar 27 2010, 07:43 PM)

Posted by: Rico Suave Mar 27 2010, 09:05 PM

No disagreement....but don't try to rent it out...

Posted by: Jona Gold Mar 27 2010, 09:14 PM

That's just awesome....

Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 27 2010, 09:14 PM

Not that anyone plans on getting into an accident, but the 914 seat belt won't function correctly the way it is mounted. There is a pendulum inside that swings from rear to front when mounted in the stock location that "catches" the seat belt cog to keep it from unreeling in the event of an accident. As it is mounted now, it will swing from side to side.

There is also another cam that engages when the belt unreels rapidly so I guess technically it will half-function.

A retractable belt from a 70's VW Bug would have the pendulum situated correctly for this application.

Posted by: McMark Mar 27 2010, 09:38 PM

It's getting 944 belts. No problem.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 27 2010, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Mar 27 2010, 08:38 PM)

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 27 2010, 09:57 PM

QUOTE(Rico Suave @ Mar 27 2010, 07:43 PM)

Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 27 2010, 09:59 PM

You two are sick and twisted and I love it!

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 27 2010, 10:01 PM

Hey! Stop it Dammit, I'm trying to get seven in a row here. Did I do it?

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 27 2010, 10:02 PM

Hah!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 27 2010, 10:11 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Mar 27 2010, 09:02 PM)

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 27 2010, 10:16 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 27 2010, 09:11 PM)

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Mar 27 2010, 09:02 PM)

Hah!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 27 2010, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Mar 27 2010, 09:16 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 27 2010, 09:11 PM)

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Mar 27 2010, 09:02 PM)

Hah!

I had seven in a row there for awhile.

Posted by: black73 Mar 28 2010, 10:58 AM

That looks different from the set I got back in'62....

QUOTE(URY914 @ Mar 25 2010, 07:52 PM)

Oh BTW, Andy I found your tool box........

Posted by: Brando Mar 28 2010, 09:27 PM

I would honestly have to call this a "914 sedan". 4 doors and all, but not as long as a limo.

Add about one more 914 length and it would be a limo. I don't believe it needs special registration unless it is going to function as a service limo. You would need a TCP# and you could get a 1ZZ#### license plate.

Posted by: johannes Mar 29 2010, 01:16 AM

QUOTE(Brando @ Mar 28 2010, 07:27 PM)

Posted by: sww914 Mar 29 2010, 01:25 AM

I think what you guys are doing is cool.
I'm glad I don't need to sit at my computer and pick apart every little fucking detail looking for flaws.

Posted by: zymurgist Mar 29 2010, 04:54 AM

QUOTE(Brando @ Mar 28 2010, 11:27 PM)

Posted by: plymouth37 Mar 29 2010, 07:16 AM

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Mar 29 2010, 03:54 AM)

QUOTE(Brando @ Mar 28 2010, 11:27 PM)

I would honestly have to call this a "914 sedan". 4 doors and all, but not as long as a limo.

Twice as many seats as a 914. Too bad the number 928 is already taken.

Posted by: RobW Mar 29 2010, 07:23 AM

Nice work Andy and Mark!

Posted by: Randal Mar 29 2010, 08:43 AM

QUOTE(RobW @ Mar 29 2010, 06:23 AM)

Nice work Andy and Mark!

Posted by: Randal Mar 29 2010, 08:52 AM

QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Mar 29 2010, 06:16 AM)

QUOTE(zymurgist @ Mar 29 2010, 03:54 AM)

QUOTE(Brando @ Mar 28 2010, 11:27 PM)

I would honestly have to call this a "914 sedan". 4 doors and all, but not as long as a limo.

Twice as many seats as a 914. Too bad the number 928 is already taken.

How about 1828?
Love the project guys!

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 29 2010, 03:54 PM

Sick, sick, sick....but way cool!

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 6 2010, 07:57 PM

Some more pics from this lascht weekend ...


Cracked long:






More bracing on the longs:

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 6 2010, 08:00 PM

Digging into the fender transition area ...




No safety glasses or gloves!




Quick and dirty mockup with lots of aluminum tape.
This area will need some creative metal work to look good.

Posted by: r_towle Apr 6 2010, 08:20 PM

Red green show...The tape should hold it...

Looks like a fun work of art...
Get it pin striped.

Rich

Posted by: McMark Apr 6 2010, 10:39 PM

Hey! You were supposed to take a picture after I put on the glasses and gloves...

Posted by: Ferg Apr 7 2010, 08:40 AM

Found you guys a tow vehicle

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Chevy-Suburban-Limousine_W0QQitemZ200458759197QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2eac45ec1d

Posted by: dflesburg Apr 7 2010, 08:41 AM

you guys need a small plasma cutter.

Posted by: McMark Apr 7 2010, 09:43 AM

Have a small plasma cutter. I don't like the warped metal, or dealing with the dribbles on the edge. I've gotten really handy with a cutoff wheel in the last 10 years. It's my #1 most used tool (okay, aside from the 13mm wrench).

Posted by: mepstein Apr 7 2010, 10:01 AM

One day you might need an MRI and regret not wearing saftey glasses

Posted by: McMark Apr 7 2010, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 6 2010, 09:39 PM)

Hey! You were supposed to take a picture after I put on the glasses and gloves...

Posted by: balljoint Apr 10 2010, 05:51 AM

Following with great interest. Excellent work and very entertaining. Thank you.

Not sure if anyone has offered yet, but do you need a set of these?


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Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2010, 09:02 PM

Another great day in Limo Land ™

We got the drivers side frame work finished. Yeah!


Here's a before shot of the glory hole:




View towards the rear:




View towards the front:




And straight up:

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2010, 09:07 PM

We cut a groove along the bottom of the long and added vertical reinforcement plates that were welded to the angle iron on top and butt-welded to the bottom.

We added 5 plates over a total length of about 16 inches.


McMark welding upside-down:




One plate in:




All 5 in:

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2010, 09:08 PM

McMark goofing around ...




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Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2010, 09:11 PM

All cleaned up and in primer ...








And closed up from the inside as well:

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2010, 09:12 PM

Now it's time for some


Andy

Posted by: jcambo7 Apr 10 2010, 09:14 PM

This is awesoe! I can't wait to see the project completed!

Posted by: McMark Apr 10 2010, 09:17 PM

I'll be glad to be done with the frame/structure work. We should have all that buttoned up next weekend.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 10 2010, 10:34 PM

Mmmm goober welds.

Gotta crank up the heat when welding 1/8" steel! (doesnt help that your welding upside down...)

Awesome progress, Thats the hard and critical part right there... Good final result!

Posted by: McMark Apr 10 2010, 10:49 PM

Turned up all the way and there was no room for the 'torch'.

We'll be working next Sat if you wanna show me how it's done.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2010, 11:00 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 10 2010, 09:49 PM)

Turned up all the way and there was no room for the 'torch'.

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 11 2010, 02:28 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 10 2010, 09:49 PM)

Turned up all the way and there was no room for the 'torch'.

We'll be working next Sat if you wanna show me how it's done.

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Apr 11 2010, 08:05 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 10 2010, 07:08 PM)

McMark goofing around ...

Posted by: McMark Apr 11 2010, 11:25 AM

Posted by: Randal Apr 11 2010, 02:08 PM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Apr 11 2010, 01:28 AM)

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 10 2010, 09:49 PM)

Turned up all the way and there was no room for the 'torch'.

We'll be working next Sat if you wanna show me how it's done.

What welder? What wire?

Try turning down your wire speed?



I weld the thick 1/8" stuff all the time w/ my Lincoln 135 on .030 wire. D setting ~ 3.5 wire speed. However I know a lot of the body shops use .023 wire as its better on 18 and 20 guage.

But then again, I know how hard it is to weld in a tight space upside down... Literally impossibly.. Put the stick up there, hold the trigger, and hope for the best..

Posted by: Krieger914 Apr 11 2010, 03:16 PM

How about cutting a few holes on the side of the longs and welding from there?

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 11 2010, 03:32 PM

QUOTE(Krieger914 @ Apr 11 2010, 02:16 PM)

Posted by: RobW Apr 11 2010, 03:39 PM

Nice work guys!

Posted by: black73 Apr 11 2010, 05:42 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 11 2010, 03:32 PM)

The welds are solid. No need to make them look pretty .
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy May 29 2010, 10:00 PM

Work was a bit slow today. It took me 3 hours just to drive from Oakland to Sonoma! Damn bay area holiday traffic jam madness ...


Anyways, here are the pics.
We started work on the roof-line by raising the middle targa bar about 1".
That allows for a straight metal roof section between the front targa top and the rear targa top.
Because the 914 roof slopes down towards the rear we would otherwise have a weird dip in the roof-line.

Next weekend, we'll build the metal framework for the center section of the roof.
Andy

Posted by: tod914 May 29 2010, 10:07 PM

Will the string be used as the intercom system? Nice werk fellers, you guys got tallent.

Posted by: rick 918-S May 29 2010, 10:21 PM

Posted by: majkos May 30 2010, 07:22 AM

Nice "Lines"

Keep up the good, er, Great work!

Posted by: ConeDodger May 30 2010, 08:40 AM

It could have gone either way... It might have been a hang out day because the autocross at Infinion was just 20 minutes away with Holiday weekend traffic or work on the limo... Andy was the strong one. I think Mark was leaning toward the hang out day.

I wish I had my camera with me when I told Scott Yeaman that Andy and Mark were building a 914 limo. The look on his face was pure amazement.

I got the replacement control arm bead blasted for my car after it's WCR tangle with a rock. Mark will powdercoat it later.

Posted by: RJMII May 30 2010, 09:18 AM

Are those threaded rods holding up the roof? (pre weld pictures)

It looks like you welded a nut to the roll bar, then adjusted with a threaded rod...

Oh, and the project is still looking great! I've been enjoying the build, thanks again for sharing.

Posted by: corsepervita May 30 2010, 09:18 AM

cool project - will be interesting to see how it ends up when it is finished

Posted by: roadster fan May 30 2010, 11:32 AM

You guys are Crazy!!!!!

And I mean that in a good way. Man, I can't wait to get a ride in that. The stuff of legends!

Jim

Posted by: McMark May 30 2010, 12:32 PM

Yeah, we used threaded rod to set the height of the rollbar. The top was latched on, front and back to keep everything stable. Then we ran a string from the front of the car to the back of the car to approximate the desired roofline. Then we brought up the targa bar to get close to the line, exactly where we wanted it. With this technique, we could test different heights, look at things from across the room, and take measurements to make sure everything was matched.

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 2 2010, 03:38 PM

The donor parts car has arrived ....

Andy

Posted by: McMark Jul 7 2010, 12:03 PM

This project needed a bit of a kick start. I think this will do the trick...


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Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 7 2010, 01:36 PM

You got an extra case with it??? Hmmmm... What diabolical projects could we do next??? Oh, and how did you get from Napa to Hwy. 5 and back to Sonoma by 10am?

Posted by: markb Jul 7 2010, 01:39 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 7 2010, 11:03 AM)

This project needed a bit of a kick start. I think this will do the trick...

Posted by: RobW Jul 7 2010, 02:11 PM

QUOTE(markb @ Jul 7 2010, 12:39 PM)

QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 7 2010, 11:03 AM)

This project needed a bit of a kick start. I think this will do the trick...

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 7 2010, 02:35 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 7 2010, 12:36 PM)

Posted by: Brent Jul 7 2010, 02:49 PM

This car is going to hit the show circuit for sure, when not being utilized by members.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jul 7 2010, 07:20 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jul 7 2010, 12:36 PM)

Posted by: McMark Jul 7 2010, 10:33 PM

The six isn't actually going to power the limo. It's just a fancy looking seat.

Posted by: Krieger Jul 7 2010, 10:51 PM

I still have those rear bilsteins for you. Im gonna wait till my car is painted then Ill get them to you if you still want them

Posted by: arkitect Jul 8 2010, 09:20 PM

Mark and Andy,
Cool build thread, can't wait to see it finished.

Dave

Posted by: McMark Jul 8 2010, 10:41 PM

Andy, absolutely.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 10 2010, 10:32 PM

So, did anything get done today? Do tell oh Big Brained One!

Posted by: McMark Jul 10 2010, 10:51 PM

Yes.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 11 2010, 12:30 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 10 2010, 08:51 PM)

Yes.

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 11 2010, 01:39 AM

Here are a few pics. I got off to a late start due to me signing the lease to my new house this AM.

We did some more work on the roof-line and the sail-panel/side-window area today.

Unfortunately, the front angle and rear angle of a 914 side-window are not the same. We came up with a compromise where the center sail panel will be slightly wider on top and the front rectangular window on the rear door will also be slightly wider on top.
That will take care of the difference in angle.


Below are the pics of the guts of the new sail-panel ...
Andy

Posted by: johannes Jul 11 2010, 01:53 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 10 2010, 11:39 PM)

Posted by: plymouth37 Jul 11 2010, 02:14 AM

Absolutely love it! Good work guys!

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 11 2010, 07:48 AM

Nice work guys!

Posted by: McMark Jul 11 2010, 10:17 AM

We also came up with an oil tank plan for the six. I had a few ideas that I've been mulling over for years and we talked them out and changed a few things and now we have a plan. Exciting things to come.

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 11 2010, 12:54 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 11 2010, 09:17 AM)

Posted by: Project 6 Jul 11 2010, 01:04 PM

Let's see a current side view of the whole car!

Posted by: scotty b Jul 11 2010, 03:27 PM

QUOTE(Project 6 @ Jul 11 2010, 11:04 AM)

Posted by: dw914er Jul 11 2010, 03:53 PM

project is coming along nicely!!!

Posted by: dw914er Jul 11 2010, 03:53 PM

project is coming along nicely!!!

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 11 2010, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Jul 11 2010, 02:27 PM)

QUOTE(Project 6 @ Jul 11 2010, 11:04 AM)

Let's see a current side view of the whole car!

Roll that puppy outside and snap a few

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 11 2010, 07:16 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 11 2010, 07:51 PM)

QUOTE(scotty b @ Jul 11 2010, 02:27 PM)

QUOTE(Project 6 @ Jul 11 2010, 11:04 AM)

Let's see a current side view of the whole car!

Roll that puppy outside and snap a few

We need a drivers door first. The sideview doesn't work without both doors ...
Andy

Posted by: Krieger Jul 11 2010, 08:59 PM

The Bilsteins are yours!

Posted by: zx-niner Jul 11 2010, 10:26 PM

Will be delivering two doors this Saturday . . .

Posted by: McMark Jul 11 2010, 10:31 PM

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 11 2010, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(zx-niner @ Jul 11 2010, 11:26 PM)

Will be delivering two doors this Saturday . . .

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 1 2010, 01:59 PM

Lookin Good
sorta dejavu
http://www.facebook.com/pages/PEGASUS-BUGSHOP/223579762967#!/photo.php?pid=3763173&id=223579762967&ref=album

Posted by: MBowman325 Aug 24 2010, 01:00 PM

Been away for a bit..


So, how is it progressing?

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 26 2010, 01:01 PM

Da Modor! 2.7L

Yeah

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 26 2010, 01:47 PM

I'm prepping the engine bay for the aftermarket bulkhead mount right now. We should be ready to test fit the engine next weekend. ...

Posted by: johannes Sep 26 2010, 02:48 PM

WOW !!! that limo will rock ! ... You are the master !

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 26 2010, 09:25 PM

More pix ...

Posted by: KaptKaos Sep 26 2010, 10:23 PM

Damn. That limo is gonna haul!

Posted by: Chris Hamilton Sep 26 2010, 10:24 PM

Andy, you should come get the paperwork at some point. My emails and PMs don't seem to be getting through.

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 26 2010, 10:29 PM

QUOTE(Chris Hamilton @ Sep 26 2010, 09:24 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 3 2010, 07:47 PM

More baby-steps ...


I finished the basic structure of the second sail panel today.
That means we can now weld those up and make them look nice.

The same goes for the center roof section. We'll be able to finish the structural for that next time ...

Posted by: Krieger Oct 3 2010, 08:00 PM

Ser Gut!

Posted by: racerbvd Oct 3 2010, 08:09 PM

This is going to be a very sweet ride, you guys are real Craftsmen!!!!

Posted by: ConeDodger Oct 4 2010, 08:00 AM

Posted by: FourBlades Oct 4 2010, 08:04 AM

Need more limo porn!

Posted by: jcambo7 Oct 5 2010, 05:07 PM

Posted by: GTeener Oct 5 2010, 05:58 PM

Coolio. Nice progress.

Posted by: BiG bOgGs Oct 5 2010, 07:06 PM

You guys flat out ROCK!!!

Posted by: markb Oct 5 2010, 08:03 PM

QUOTE(FourBlades @ Oct 4 2010, 07:04 AM)

Need more limo porn!

Posted by: RobW Oct 5 2010, 08:06 PM

C'mon... its just photoshopping.....

Posted by: stewteral Oct 5 2010, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 9 2010, 07:37 PM)

Today work has begun on the 914World exclusive "914 Limousine" project!

After years of tossing the idea around, McMark, RobW and i decided a few weeks back that it was time that someone actually build such a monstrosity.

RobW had a bare shell with front end damage so all we needed was another donor to make the front of the Limo.

I bought a '75 roller from Chris Hamilton and Rob and i went to pick it up this morning.

Once at McMark's shop in Sonoma, we started stripping the car, built a second dolly to be able to roll the shell around and started to cut off the rear of the white car and the front of the red car.

Both cuts are rough cuts at this point. Next weekend, we'll start with the more detailed cutting and test fitting.

The final result will be a 4-door, 4 (maybe 5) seater with at least one removable top (maybe two) and all the usual bling one would find in a Limousine.

The paint has yet to be determined but we are leaning towards a certain Porsche period correct 98 color.

Andy


CURRENT STATUS:

- We sourced a 2.7L /6 engine and added a aftermarket bulkhead mount ...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=102807&view=findpost&p=1376127


Parts Donations:

- Read here if you'd like to contribute to the 914World Limo project:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103595

Posted by: Gary Oct 5 2010, 08:31 PM

That's a fine looking motor

Posted by: GTeener Oct 8 2010, 03:00 PM

Is there a blueprint plan for this build, or are you just building by trial?

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 8 2010, 04:44 PM

QUOTE(GTeener @ Oct 8 2010, 02:00 PM)

Posted by: jaxdream Oct 8 2010, 05:28 PM

Don't forget , between SirAndy and McMark they have 4 eyeballs!!!!!!

Jack / Jaxdream

Posted by: Hontec Oct 9 2010, 04:58 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 9 2010, 12:44 AM)

QUOTE(GTeener @ Oct 8 2010, 02:00 PM)

Is there a blueprint plan for this build, or are you just building by trial?

We've got two levels and a tape-measure. Does that count?

Posted by: kg6dxn Oct 11 2010, 07:23 PM

Here's some motivation for you...

Posted by: scotty b Oct 11 2010, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Oct 11 2010, 05:23 PM)

Here's some motivation for you...

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 8 2010, 12:47 PM

Coach Lights??? So many options ...


Traditional:




Spiral:




Bubble:

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 8 2010, 02:28 PM

Ha, traditional for sure.

Posted by: scotty b Nov 8 2010, 06:08 PM

Spiral man

Posted by: orange914 Nov 8 2010, 06:21 PM

+1 traditional

Posted by: steveherman Nov 8 2010, 07:37 PM

OMG BUBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dlee6204 Nov 8 2010, 07:40 PM

Posted by: drew365 Nov 8 2010, 09:44 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 19 2010, 11:10 AM)

QUOTE(tdgray @ Mar 19 2010, 12:08 PM)

your getting grumpy in your old age Andy

Actually, i was born grumpy.

Just like the other 80 million Germans ...
Andy

Posted by: r_towle Nov 8 2010, 10:19 PM

McMark claimed (tweet) you guys are back working on it today...
So, where are the pics?????

Rich

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 8 2010, 10:28 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Nov 8 2010, 08:19 PM)

Posted by: abayer1969 Nov 9 2010, 06:32 AM

QUOTE(dlee6204 @ Nov 8 2010, 08:40 PM)

QUOTE

OMG BUBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bubble all the way!

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Nov 9 2010, 10:26 AM

Schedule another limo work-party
I am in the middle of a move, need to find a new rental in Marin, and have 914 parts to donate. Good weather this Saturday means final PCA AX for me, but bad weather and I would join youz guyz indoors and bring parts.
That motor rocks!

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 9 2010, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Nov 9 2010, 08:26 AM)

Schedule another limo work-party

Posted by: HarveyH Nov 10 2010, 07:34 AM

Your idea of coach lights reminded me of a traumatic expierience of many years ago. I once saw a 50's/60's vintage Rolls Royce, (possibly a Silver Wraith) in black with a white padded vinyl top and Landau irons.

Posted by: RobW Nov 10 2010, 11:14 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 9 2010, 11:31 AM)

QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Nov 9 2010, 08:26 AM)

Schedule another limo work-party

Funny you mention that ...

We talked about doing another work party. There's a lot of grunt work that needs to be done before we can start making her look nice.

This would probably be more of a scrub and clean party ...

Posted by: McMark Nov 10 2010, 01:02 PM

Sorry for the delay. The limo work day on Sunday wore me out enough to let me get sick. So I've been sleeping the last few days away with a cold.

Our first task on Sunday was to strengthen the rear 'window frame' section so that should any passenger try and grab onto that area, it's less likely to bend something. By adding in these triangulation pieces, we got it surprisingly rigid. I was worried we weren't going to get it strong enough, but now I'm more than pleased with how it turned out.



We added an strengthening beam between to two sail panel sections to help tie them together as well as added another weld seam at the joint between the two sections. This area isn't going to see a lot of stresses, so super strength isn't important.



And finally we 'skinned' one side of the mid panel. It looks really odd this way, but once we fill in the fender gaps and add on the roofing section, it'll look better. This is where the limo lights will go.



After Sunday's work day we decided to stop work on the aesthetic portion of the project, and refocus on the functionality portion. So next weekend we will be doing a lot of measuring and planning to get closer to having a proven running car. I've already called Terry cable and confirmed that we can have custom length cables produced for the throttle and clutch cables. We plan on getting the suspension and brakes all cleaned up, powder coated and prettied up. We plan on cleaning painting and undercoating the wheel wells while the suspension is off, that way we can tape those areas off when we paint and still leave the braking system intact. I'd like to bleed it once, and then leave it alone for good. After next weekend we'll have a better idea of what we can accomplish on a work weekend, but as mentioned it will probably consist of cleaning the rear fender wells, engine bay, and under the rear trunk to prepare those sections for finishing. As well as pulling the motor and transmission and stripping all the rest of the trim and parts off of our parts car

Posted by: RobW Nov 10 2010, 01:07 PM

Nice work. Hope you feel better!

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 10 2010, 04:08 PM

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 10 2010, 05:34 PM

Time to pick a color ... Not surprisingly, Raspberry has my vote ...


Black:


Dark Blue:


Green:


Raspberry:


Red:


Yellow:




If you want to play with it yourself, here's the photoshop file.
It has a saved selection for the background images that you can use to create your own color layer ...

http://www.914world.com/cantnamethisdownloads/LimoConcept.psd

Posted by: abayer1969 Nov 10 2010, 05:52 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 10 2010, 06:34 PM)

Yellow:

Posted by: Dr Evil Nov 10 2010, 06:10 PM

Black, duh. The green one reminds me of money

I vas sinking, maybe make the rear doors suicide doors? Probably too much work, but it woudl be cool.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 10 2010, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Nov 10 2010, 04:10 PM)

Black, duh. The green one reminds me of money

Posted by: Dr Evil Nov 10 2010, 06:14 PM

Do like the VW rabbit and paint each panel a different color

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 10 2010, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Nov 10 2010, 04:14 PM)

Do like the VW rabbit and paint each panel a different color

Posted by: RobW Nov 10 2010, 06:20 PM

Dark blue. Haven't you EVER seen a dark blue 914 Andy?

Posted by: Krieger Nov 10 2010, 07:01 PM

Not rasperry. Maybe red or silver. That is one freaking looooong rocker pannel!

Posted by: JRust Nov 10 2010, 08:01 PM

How about the Limosicle? Still have Phoenix red trim but with the Delphi or Viper green

Posted by: kenshapiro2002 Nov 10 2010, 08:08 PM

Silver...absolutely.

QUOTE(Krieger @ Nov 10 2010, 08:01 PM)

Posted by: iamchappy Nov 10 2010, 08:13 PM

First thought i had was Silver

Posted by: markb Nov 10 2010, 08:18 PM

Um, metallic red?

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 10 2010, 08:19 PM

Plaid

Posted by: bigkensteele Nov 10 2010, 08:37 PM

I think silver wouild look great.

Did I miss what you are going to run for wheels? I am picturing 5 bolt steelies and flat caps - classy.

Posted by: Lennies914 Nov 10 2010, 08:47 PM

Is there a date for the build party?

Silver would look cool!

Posted by: scotty b Nov 10 2010, 08:48 PM

How about saturn yellow and lime green ?? Mark Epstein has a motor for it


you could name it the Mintberry crunchmobile

Posted by: strawman Nov 11 2010, 12:50 AM

C'mon -- SF Giants orange! I'd pay big bux to to be dropped off at One Willie Mays Plaza in a teener limo!!!

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 11 2010, 12:56 AM

It's a limo, Black of course!Second thought, black shows all your bodywork sins, silver is more painter friendly.

Posted by: Dr Evil Nov 11 2010, 01:06 AM

Martini? Racing stripe?

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 11 2010, 01:16 AM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Nov 10 2010, 11:06 PM)

Posted by: Dr Evil Nov 11 2010, 01:32 AM

Grasshopper? It is a limited addition (only one) and there wasnt officially one made in that scheme, right?

Posted by: flipb Nov 11 2010, 08:06 AM

What's wrong with you people? Don't you realize it'll hurt the collector value of the car if you paint it anything other than the original factory color?


(of course, that might require a nice blend between the front & rear donors...)

Posted by: johannes Nov 11 2010, 08:23 AM

Tangerine !!!

... Let's do it seventies ! ...

...

Posted by: Gustl Nov 11 2010, 10:02 AM

what about one of these:

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 11 2010, 10:06 AM

[/quote]
I think the Dr has it, Martini!!!

Posted by: bandjoey Nov 11 2010, 11:38 AM

Purple with lots of neon! and it's Time to start on the INTERIOR!



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Posted by: abayer1969 Nov 11 2010, 12:10 PM

QUOTE(bandjoey @ Nov 11 2010, 12:38 PM)

Posted by: siverson Nov 11 2010, 12:11 PM

L20E

Posted by: Gustl Nov 11 2010, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Nov 11 2010, 08:06 AM)

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Nov 11 2010, 02:52 PM

BLACK
matte black
satin black
metalic black
ultra glossy black
black with racing stripes
silver and black
BLACK

Posted by: flipb Nov 11 2010, 02:56 PM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Nov 11 2010, 02:18 PM)

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Nov 11 2010, 08:06 AM)

Martini? Racing stripe?

like this one

QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Nov 11 2010, 04:52 PM)

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 11 2010, 03:21 PM

Posted by: Cupomeat Nov 11 2010, 04:08 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Nov 10 2010, 10:48 PM)

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Nov 11 2010, 05:25 PM

I choose Aubergine!

Posted by: BiG bOgGs Nov 11 2010, 07:28 PM

If the classic black limo look is not where you guys want to go, I would suggest going with any classic color/racing scheme from one of the classic/iconic 914's.

Any of the 70's racing teams would be cool.

Or maybe it could be styled after the 914 given to Ferry Porsche.

What ever you guys decide on, I'm sure it will be cool.

Posted by: scotty b Nov 11 2010, 07:45 PM

whit, pull the stripes starting at the top of the turn signals, and run them straight back along the top edge tapering to a point near the cowel. There was a 935 with a similar look


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Posted by: Betty Nov 12 2010, 10:39 AM

Gulf colored paint scheme?

Either that or I'm really liking either Bumble Bee, Creamsicle, or Grasshopper.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 12 2010, 11:58 AM

QUOTE(Betty @ Nov 12 2010, 08:39 AM)

Posted by: Ferg Nov 12 2010, 01:42 PM

harlequin like the old Golfs?






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Posted by: McMark Nov 12 2010, 09:06 PM

Nice thinking, Drew. I could get into aubergine.

I like Grasshopper too.

If anyone wants to show up this Sunday and strip the parts car, come on down.

Posted by: swood Nov 12 2010, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 12 2010, 07:06 PM)

Nice thinking, Drew. I could get into aubergine.

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 12 2010, 10:57 PM

QUOTE(swood @ Nov 12 2010, 10:39 PM)

QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 12 2010, 07:06 PM)

Nice thinking, Drew. I could get into aubergine.

+1
Auber Uber Alles!!

Posted by: ClayPerrine Nov 14 2010, 07:47 AM

Paint it like the Pink Pig?

Or how about the paisley 917 paint job?

Posted by: bob Nov 14 2010, 08:10 AM

I'd vote for a Grasshopper Limo!

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 14 2010, 10:11 AM

So imagine if the car was done in the 70's and was a support vehicle for the factory race teams and painted to match the transporter and race car. If I were building one that's the direction I would be taking. But I'm kind of like that.


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Posted by: arkitect Nov 14 2010, 10:34 AM

My feeble attempt at paintbrush -
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Posted by: JRust Nov 14 2010, 11:45 AM

wanted to try to get the side stripe with Porsche but couldn't figure out how to insert text


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Posted by: kwales Nov 14 2010, 11:52 AM

Piffle,

White Porsche limos are sooooooooo common.....

(no, it's not a photoshop, it resides about 40 miles up the road from me)

You need another color....

Now a gulf blue and orange limo.......


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Posted by: kafermeister Nov 14 2010, 09:41 PM

Ken is that from the Taj?

Posted by: P.Rocket Nov 14 2010, 10:34 PM

Ravenna green is totally 70's and very photogenic.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Nov 14 2010, 10:49 PM

BLACK limo's have class. A black Porsche 914 limo would be classy. Ya want to put racing stripes on it? Then why not some neon lights under the rocker panels and a really, really loud "ricer" type exhaust. You have a choice between a classy project that will draw an admiring crowd or something that looks like a high school project that the 15 year olds will love.
Cheers, Elliot

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 15 2010, 02:04 AM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Nov 14 2010, 08:49 PM)

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Nov 15 2010, 02:12 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 15 2010, 12:04 AM)

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Nov 14 2010, 08:49 PM)

You have a choice between a classy project that will draw an admiring crowd or something that looks like a high school project that the 15 year olds will love.

Class? Where do i find some of that?

Posted by: shoguneagle Nov 22 2010, 09:44 PM

I finally re-read the entire thread taking everything into consideration.

The Project: Great demonstration of skills, thinking, winging it, and engineering know how. Great job with eyeballs, straight edge, metal, tape, and string. A great build to see how sheet metal is worked on a 914 including building stress points and developing ideas while on the build cycle. Learned alot and nice to see people are dedicated to getting a conversion done in a short and reasonable time frame. Great Job!!

I really liked the constructive ideas offered and makes even an observer think about your project and how you are putting it together.

I am looking forward to seeing The Project when I get to Bay Area next June. Keep up the good work and hope to see what the final paint scheme. I like the idea the Doctor suggests: a one of a kind deserving special treatment within the Porsche car family.

Thanks for letting me reading the thread.

Steve Hurt

Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 23 2010, 01:00 PM

How about the Janis Joplin look ?


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Posted by: McMark Nov 28 2010, 06:56 PM

Got some more work done on the limo today. We halted progress on the body and started focusing on making the thing move under its own power. No sense in getting the body perfect, if it doesn't drive well.

So we did some brainstorming, ate some pizza, and then extended the clutch tube and throttle tube. We used the tube from our parts car, so it's a perfect size match. We then clamped a section of sheet metal around the junction and brazed the whole thing together. This'll be plenty strong.

Now we just need to order custom length cables from Terry Cable and we can check these two off our list.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 28 2010, 06:59 PM

Next Weekend - Dec 5.

We will be finishing up some welding/fabrication in the rear center tunnel. But we could really use some help pulling the motor and trans out of the parts car. We need this transmission to test fit the motor and finish fabricating a few more pieces. We could use 2 or 3 people for this.

Posted by: Dr Evil Nov 28 2010, 07:16 PM

For a tranz, do you suppose a box with 4 short gears and one tall/stock 5th for freeway would be desirable? Let me know if you want me to do up a box for this

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 28 2010, 08:27 PM

I got nothing except these pics of McMark playing with his torch ...

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 28 2010, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 28 2010, 04:59 PM)

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 28 2010, 09:42 PM

If you decide on a color you could jamb the engine bay an then you wouldn't need to pull the engine later when it comes time to paint the car. Just an idea'er.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 28 2010, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Nov 28 2010, 07:42 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 5 2010, 01:41 AM

Tomorrow will be another Limo Sunday™. Ya'all are welcome to schwing by if you are in the area ...

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 5 2010, 07:20 PM

It's alive!!!!

Well, sorta.


Today was pretty productive. Lennie stopped by to help, so we got a lot done.

We cut the parts car in half and removed the engine and transmission. We'll be using the transmission in the limo.

We then hooked up the extended wiring harness, added the gauges and tail lights, threw in a battery and voila!
No smoke. No blown fuses.
Taillights came on as did the headlights and dash lights. The blinker relay was clicking but no blinkers. Probably a ground issue.

Posted by: McMark Dec 5 2010, 08:16 PM

Pull the transmission out of the parts... uh... car.


Attached image(s)

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 5 2010, 09:33 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Dec 5 2010, 06:16 PM)

Posted by: orange914 Dec 6 2010, 12:46 AM

andy, if i can talk kenny and my other son into a build... still a basic roller? what kinda $ do you want?

mike

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 6 2010, 12:50 AM

Mike,

Im planning on doing a trailer build, however probably wont get to it for a while... I'd be more than happy to help and have some idea's myself to making it work the best. Besides this looks like a way better chassis than what I have in my backyard...

Posted by: orange914 Dec 6 2010, 12:56 AM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Dec 5 2010, 10:50 PM)

Posted by: orange914 Dec 6 2010, 12:59 AM

p.s., melodie cringed ... this could to be fun

Posted by: tod914 Dec 6 2010, 01:07 AM

Andy's 1/2 off sale.

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 6 2010, 01:11 AM

QUOTE(orange914 @ Dec 5 2010, 10:59 PM)

p.s., melodie cringed ... this could to be fun

Posted by: nathansnathan Dec 6 2010, 01:40 PM

I think I didn't see this pic in any of the 28 pages of this thread.
I couldn't find too much info on this or any other pics, but it is indeed a 914 limo, looks like adriatic blue. For your inspiration :

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 6 2010, 02:06 PM

QUOTE(nathansnathan @ Dec 6 2010, 11:40 AM)

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 6 2010, 02:24 PM

That picture was the inspiration to this car, what started the joke that turned into a physical object.

Correct Andy?

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 6 2010, 02:48 PM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Dec 6 2010, 12:24 PM)

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 6 2010, 02:52 PM

Found the thread!

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=2991


Looks like Mark S. did the initial image and then i played with several different versions of the center roof section ...

June 2003

Posted by: r_towle Dec 6 2010, 02:53 PM

you move fast...

Posted by: nathansnathan Dec 6 2010, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 6 2010, 12:48 PM)

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Dec 6 2010, 12:24 PM)

That picture was the inspiration to this car, what started the joke that turned into a physical object.

Correct Andy?

Pretty much ... I'm sure those old threads are still on here somewhere. I know i still have the original photoshop files of that blue "Limo". I remember i did a few different ones playing with the roof-line and sail panels etc. ...

That's the power of the Interwebs for you!
Hey, i found this picture online, so it must be real!

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 6 2010, 03:15 PM

QUOTE(nathansnathan @ Dec 6 2010, 12:55 PM)

That is really funny. I got it from this page

http://my.net-link.net/~dcline/limonov1.htm

-he totally fell for it, as did I and so did Karl Ellzy apparently

QUOTE

Most of these limousines have been built or created by individuals,
some however may have been converted by known coachbuilders.
(If you have any additioanl information please let me know.)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 16 2011, 09:42 PM

Wow, it's been over a month since we last worked on the Limo ...


Well, here are the (crappy cell phone) pictures from today.
The front of the Limo had a large cutout in the trunk floor either for a oil cooler shroud or AC condenser. In any case, the hole had to go. I cut a replacement panel from the parts car, cleaned it up and welded it in.




The hole:


The patch panel:


Rough cut of the panel:


Trimmed:


Welded and primered:



I still have to do a second pass on the welding to close the pinholes and grind the welds a little bit nicer. But that's for another day.

Posted by: McMark Jan 16 2011, 11:56 PM

I finished the design work for our custom oil tank as well. Gotta send it out for laser/waterjet cutting, then weld it all together. B)

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 17 2011, 12:36 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 16 2011, 09:56 PM)

Posted by: Krieger Jan 17 2011, 11:00 AM

What do you think about using seam sealer to fill the pinholes?

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 17 2011, 11:32 AM

QUOTE(Krieger @ Jan 17 2011, 09:00 AM)

Posted by: McMark Jan 17 2011, 01:29 PM

It's a really small time investment to do it right. The seam sealer isn't water proof forever and would only last a year or two of regular driving before you're doing it again and wasting MORE time than it would have taken to do it right.

Posted by: trojanhorsepower Jan 17 2011, 06:23 PM

Has anybody heard for Karl lately?

-Peter

Posted by: RobW Jan 17 2011, 08:08 PM

Nice work Andy and Mark... I can only imagine what might be in store for the front trunk of the 914 limo

Posted by: Jenny Jan 18 2011, 12:01 AM

This is awesome guys!! But, am I the only one imagining Herbie the love bug when thinking of welding two cars together? I'm picturing the front of the car turning while the back half continues on straight, or the back half surpassing the front half in a race.

Posted by: messix Jan 18 2011, 12:30 AM

Jenny!!!!!

Posted by: Jenny Jan 18 2011, 12:49 AM

Hi there! I'm here for the week, until school starts again on the 26th. Mostly lurking though. Lots of new names I don't recognize.

Oh sweet! You guys kept my smiley!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jan 18 2011, 08:43 AM

What are you guys thinking??? A limo with no air conditioning?????

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 18 2011, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Jan 18 2011, 06:43 AM)

Posted by: 9146986 Jan 18 2011, 03:59 PM

It's got 6-80 AC! Two tops, four windows, and 80 MPH.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 18 2011, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(Jenny @ Jan 18 2011, 12:49 AM)

Hi there! I'm here for the week, until school starts again on the 26th. Mostly lurking though. Lots of new names I don't recognize.

Oh sweet! You guys kept my smiley!

Posted by: markb Jan 18 2011, 04:49 PM

Hi Jenny!

Posted by: Sleepin Jan 19 2011, 04:38 PM

Attached image(s)

Posted by: tscrihfield Jan 21 2011, 09:18 PM

QUOTE(kwales @ Nov 14 2010, 12:52 PM)

Piffle,

White Porsche limos are sooooooooo common.....

(no, it's not a photoshop, it resides about 40 miles up the road from me)

You need another color....

Now a gulf blue and orange limo.......

Posted by: Ferg Mar 18 2011, 02:54 PM

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 18 2011, 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Ferg @ Mar 18 2011, 01:54 PM)

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Mar 18 2011, 05:31 PM

What's up for this weekend? Indoor limo projects? At the shop at all?

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 18 2011, 05:33 PM

QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Mar 18 2011, 04:31 PM)

What's up for this weekend? Indoor limo projects? At the shop at all?

Posted by: Sleepin Mar 29 2011, 12:33 AM

We are dying for some photo updates here!

Posted by: maddog Mar 29 2011, 05:00 AM

Posted by: majkos Mar 29 2011, 07:31 AM

waiting.........

Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 29 2011, 09:33 AM

I saw it Sunday. All snuggled up next to McMark's Cellette Bench. I donated the factory carpet from my car and the door panels. My carpet will clean up nicely with a power wash shampoo... Let's keep the donations coming! This thing will be SWEET when it is done!

Posted by: McMark Mar 29 2011, 03:09 PM

No work on the chassis in awhile. Both Andy and I have been super busy. BUUUUUT, I have a significant 'part' on the way to me. Some assembly required, but it's going to get us much closer to driving...

Posted by: kg6dxn Apr 20 2011, 06:51 PM

We need an update!

Posted by: moparrob Apr 20 2011, 09:30 PM

Will it be ready for prom season?

Posted by: euro911 May 2 2011, 10:30 AM

I just got around to seeing this thread the other day. Cool to see one actually getting built!


I photo-shopped my wife's '71 a few years ago just to get an idea of what one would look like ...

Posted by: moparrob May 2 2011, 12:32 PM

QUOTE(euro911 @ May 2 2011, 09:30 AM)

Posted by: wingnut86 Jun 10 2011, 11:23 AM

...I'm in a givving mood.

"Fasthonda" would have a heart-attack if he saw my post.



What else do you guys need?

keep it smallish please.

Wingnut86

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 10 2011, 01:06 PM

QUOTE(wingnut86 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:23 AM)

Posted by: JRust Jun 10 2011, 01:16 PM

OOH! I actually got to see this last weekend. Pretty impressive to see you had a car cover that fit it . What a cool project. Like most projects it gets to sit alot of the time. At least it isn't on jackstands

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Jun 10 2011, 01:21 PM

I'll try and snap a few pics this Sunday when I visit McMark.
Thanks for letting me "donate" all those parts after the swap meet!

Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 7 2011, 08:09 PM

When is the next build party. Need to get this done before WCR 2012...

Posted by: Andyrew Jul 7 2011, 09:33 PM

Posted by: bare 1 Jul 7 2011, 10:15 PM

An I thought patchin up my hellhole was a project!

Posted by: jcambo7 Sep 28 2011, 09:48 PM

What's going with this project?

Posted by: McMark Sep 28 2011, 11:12 PM

The shop is overflowing with paying projects and Andy's doing the work of four people until he can hire three more programmers at work. I hate to see it sit, but real work comes first.

Posted by: jcambo7 Sep 28 2011, 11:17 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 29 2011, 12:12 AM)

The shop is overflowing with paying projects and Andy's doing the work of four people until he can hire three more programmers at work. I hate to see it sit, but real work comes first.

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 29 2011, 11:32 AM

QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 28 2011, 10:12 PM)

The shop is overflowing with paying projects and Andy's doing the work of four people until he can hire three more programmers at work. I hate to see it sit, but real work comes first.

Posted by: wingnut86 Sep 29 2011, 11:39 AM

...sounds like you need 3 account-able, 32 hrs per week interns.

No one at the local Tech School or College needs a guaranteed A for their final semester?

Oops...

P.S. Very cool how everyone has a little Smiley...I found mine too - Dumb-Ass??? OK, who's the wise-ass...

Posted by: KaptKaos Oct 14 2011, 09:49 PM

Oddly enough, I felt the need to cross post this....


http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,448348,page=2

Be sure to scroll back to page 1!

Seems like great minds think alike.

Paging Dr. Evil!! Call for Dr. Evil!!

Posted by: racerbvd Oct 14 2011, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Oct 14 2011, 08:49 PM)

Posted by: Dr Evil Oct 14 2011, 10:02 PM

QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Oct 14 2011, 11:49 PM)

Posted by: KaptKaos Oct 14 2011, 10:16 PM

I've got a bead on an EM corvair coupe. More to follow.....

Posted by: flipb Jan 13 2012, 10:50 AM

for the two-year anniversary of this thread/project...

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 13 2012, 11:51 AM

QUOTE(flipb @ Jan 13 2012, 08:50 AM)

for the two-year anniversary of this thread/project...

Posted by: Ferg Apr 18 2012, 11:51 AM

Posted by: McMark Apr 18 2012, 01:22 PM

Holy cow. Time flies...

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 18 2012, 01:30 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 18 2012, 12:22 PM)

Holy cow. Time flies...

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 18 2012, 01:35 PM

Sound like some pretty lame excuses to me.

Posted by: Ferg Apr 18 2012, 01:48 PM

Clearly neither of you are drinking enough beer.

Posted by: kg6dxn Apr 18 2012, 10:26 PM

Will this limo ever make it to WCR???

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 18 2012, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 18 2012, 09:26 PM)

Will this limo ever make it to WCR???