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Posted by: underthetire Feb 10 2010, 09:52 PM

After really looking at the cost of the rebuild of the GA i picked up, i started to think twice. Then a guy at work offered me a buick 231V6. Low mileage motor (he got it in 81). So, I know i need the adapter stuff and cooling, probably some other stuff like headers or other misc crap. Anyone have the 231 ? and how do you like it?

Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 10 2010, 09:56 PM

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Posted by: drgchapman Feb 10 2010, 11:32 PM

I put a 231 into a '73 Vega back in 1978. Power was down low, not a rever. Good torque. Lots of motor torque over to control vs. the inline 4 it replaced. I think built to a different hp/torque curve it could be a lot of fun. I was looking for an aluminum small block buick v8, literally found this car, an Astre, I think, in a ravine and pulled the motor and transmission out on a skid.

Posted by: type47 Feb 11 2010, 05:58 AM

QUOTE(underthetire @ Feb 10 2010, 07:52 PM) *

After really looking at the cost of the rebuild of the GA i...


What was your ballpark estimate?

Posted by: Phoenix-MN Feb 11 2010, 06:09 AM

QUOTE(underthetire @ Feb 10 2010, 07:52 PM) *

After really looking at the cost of the rebuild of the GA i picked up, i started to think twice. Then a guy at work offered me a buick 231V6. Low mileage motor (he got it in 81). So, I know i need the adapter stuff and cooling, probably some other stuff like headers or other misc crap. Anyone have the 231 ? and how do you like it?


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http://phoenixhobbies.com/html/first_drive.html

http://phoenixhobbies.com/html/project_914.html

There are a couple of others on the board maybe they will chime in.

Paul

Posted by: tradisrad Feb 11 2010, 09:13 AM

My friend has a Buick V6. It is fast. He does not participate on this board.
I though about doing something similar, but I don't want to cut up my car.

Posted by: underthetire Feb 11 2010, 11:51 AM

QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 11 2010, 03:58 AM) *

QUOTE(underthetire @ Feb 10 2010, 07:52 PM) *

After really looking at the cost of the rebuild of the GA i...


What was your ballpark estimate?



Heads 1K
P/C 900
Cam/lifters/pushrods 500
bearings 350 or so
oil pump
gaskets
machine work

so i'm guessing if i do some of the case machining myself, and some of the head machining, about 3K. Them i'm still only in the 150HP range.

Buick V6- free
ring and gasket it, new valve springs-200 bucks (maybe free)
Adapter with flywheel 500
motor mount bar 100
cooling i'm gonna buy a RX7 rad-200 bucks
exhaust- not much since I have a mandrel tube bender at work

Oh, might do a cam in it with lifters as well, but a very good friend of mine used to race the 231 and helped design the turbo regals, up to the GNX. He has a ton of stuff for these motors he does not use any more. Hell he even has 3 GNX complete crate motors still in the buick box.

Posted by: Phoenix-MN Feb 12 2010, 11:17 AM

QUOTE(underthetire @ Feb 11 2010, 09:51 AM) *

QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 11 2010, 03:58 AM) *

QUOTE(underthetire @ Feb 10 2010, 07:52 PM) *

After really looking at the cost of the rebuild of the GA i...


What was your ballpark estimate?



Heads 1K
P/C 900
Cam/lifters/pushrods 500
bearings 350 or so
oil pump
gaskets
machine work

so i'm guessing if i do some of the case machining myself, and some of the head machining, about 3K. Them i'm still only in the 150HP range.

Buick V6- free
ring and gasket it, new valve springs-200 bucks (maybe free)
Adapter with flywheel 500
motor mount bar 100
cooling i'm gonna buy a RX7 rad-200 bucks
exhaust- not much since I have a mandrel tube bender at work

Oh, might do a cam in it with lifters as well, but a very good friend of mine used to race the 231 and helped design the turbo regals, up to the GNX. He has a ton of stuff for these motors he does not use any more. Hell he even has 3 GNX complete crate motors still in the buick box.


I have a new Kennedy pressure plate, flywheel and disk for sale if interested

Paul

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