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Posted by: xperu Feb 20 2010, 12:05 PM
Just courious, how can I tell if the engine in my car, came with the car when built. The VIN# 7472901421 and the engine block # is EB002449=1.7. My car was built 08/73, but the 74 came with either a 1.8 or a 2.0. Mike
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 20 2010, 12:14 PM
QUOTE(xperu @ Feb 20 2010, 11:05 AM) 
Just courious, how can I tell if the engine in my car, came with the car when built. The VIN# 7472901421 and the engine block # is EB002449=1.7. My car was built 08/73, but the 74 came with either a 1.8 or a 2.0. Mike
4742901421 !! look above the relay board drivers side inner fender well in the engine compartment at the sticker.
That will tell you if it was originally a 1.8 or a 2.0 Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
Posted by: xperu Feb 20 2010, 12:21 PM
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 12:14 PM)
QUOTE(xperu @ Feb 20 2010, 11:05 AM)
Just courious, how can I tell if the engine in my car, came with the car when built. The VIN# 7472901421 and the engine block # is EB002449=1.7. My car was built 08/73, but the 74 came with either a 1.8 or a 2.0. Mike
4742901421 !! look above the relay board drivers side inner fender well in the engine compartment at the sticker.
That will tell you if it was originally a 1.8 or a 2.0 Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
OK George, and George "thanks" for all the tech help you have given me me over the years. Mike
Posted by: type47 Feb 20 2010, 12:43 PM
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 10:14 AM)
Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
I thought EC was a 1.8... Interesting build date could either be the last 73 or the first 74 depending on the end of the vacation break. Are your gauges with or without the center "dot"/button?
Posted by: Drums66 Feb 20 2010, 01:22 PM
QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 20 2010, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 10:14 AM)
Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
I thought EC was a 1.8... Interesting build date could either be the last 73 or the first 74 depending on the end of the vacation break. Are your gauges with or without the center "dot"/button?
.....It is as well(EC-1.8)
Posted by: xperu Feb 20 2010, 01:48 PM
QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 20 2010, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 10:14 AM)
Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
I thought EC was a 1.8... Interesting build date could either be the last 73 or the first 74 depending on the end of the vacation break. Are your gauges with or without the center "dot"/button?
Silver dot center on gauge needles. The sticker George mentioned were not there, must have been removed when sandblasted because I do remember paper stickers being there before. Mike
Posted by: detoxcowboy Feb 20 2010, 02:00 PM
some early 74's had silver button gauge ans some did not.. my 74 2.0.. ninth made at least by sequantial engine #''s, did not have silver button, but did have the early temp.. so whooo whoo whoow hoo heee, being as your car is a 1.8 and is still a 1.8 your probably good, I think there is a registry available to check or something but cost some $$$ to get an official letter, I would justy go with it as original in your head until your selling at a concourse level and the paper work gets you more $$ you have a nice car appears un-molested, mine was same way and afterg getting into it I realized unmolested is like ingnored but that also shows you that everything is probably orginal.. just enough work to keep it running unitl some fool me or you dumops the money into it to restore and relaibly drive it w/ confidence, thats my 2 cents on verifying #'s..
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 20 2010, 02:11 PM
QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 10:14 AM)
Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
I thought EC was a 1.8... Interesting build date could either be the last 73 or the first 74 depending on the end of the vacation break. Are your gauges with or without the center "dot"/button?
EB 74 1.8 EC 75 1.8 another way to tell is to look at the rear right of the engine compartment between the two bolts for the right rear top holder and the center engine lid catch, and see if there is a stud sticking forward to hang the charcoal cannister. If so, it was a 1.8 originally.....EASY!
We are neglecting poor Pat's originality and history! (although I think that they should be combined!)
Posted by: ME733 Feb 20 2010, 03:10 PM
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 03:11 PM)
QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 10:14 AM)
Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
I thought EC was a 1.8... Interesting build date could either be the last 73 or the first 74 depending on the end of the vacation break. Are your gauges with or without the center "dot"/button?
EB 74 1.8 EC 75 1.8 another way to tell is to look at the rear right of the engine compartment between the two bolts for the right rear top holder and the center engine lid catch, and see if there is a stud sticking forward to hang the charcoal cannister. If so, it was a 1.8 originally.....EASY!
We are neglecting poor Pat's originality and history! (although I think that they should be combined!)
...................GOOD GRIEF!!!!......this is the stuff I was hoping to get a thread started in originality section....with photos....I vote that george should start it ....George, after 35 years It,s EASY for you !!!and science fiction to most everyone else!!!......P.S. thanks...M.M.
Posted by: vsg914 Feb 20 2010, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(detoxcowboy @ Feb 20 2010, 02:00 PM)
some early 74's had silver button gauge ans some did not.. my 74 2.0.. ninth made at least by sequantial engine #''s, did not have silver button, but did have the early temp.. so whooo whoo whoow hoo heee, being as your car is a 1.8 and is still a 1.8 your probably good, I think there is a registry available to check or something but cost some $$$ to get an official letter, I would justy go with it as original in your head until your selling at a concourse level and the paper work gets you more $$ you have a nice car appears un-molested, mine was same way and afterg getting into it I realized unmolested is like ingnored but that also shows you that everything is probably orginal.. just enough work to keep it running unitl some fool me or you dumops the money into it to restore and relaibly drive it w/ confidence, thats my 2 cents on verifying #'s..
That is the longest sentence I have ever read. Whew! I'm worn out.
Posted by: type47 Feb 20 2010, 04:08 PM
The reason I asked is that I have an EC engine in my '74 and it is the factory engine.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Feb 20 2010, 11:52 PM
I thought the EB motors were the low-compression CA-only 73 1.7?
The only way I know of to verify that a given engine came with a given car is to get a Certificate of Authenticity for your car from Porsche.... And get lucky. Often they do not include engine or transmission numbers, and sometimes the information they do have is wrong. 
But it's still about the only real way to know.
--DD
Posted by: xperu Feb 21 2010, 12:30 PM
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 02:11 PM)
QUOTE(type47 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 20 2010, 10:14 AM)
Obviously the eb is a 1.8 and about the correct sequence for a 8/73 build date
I thought EC was a 1.8... Interesting build date could either be the last 73 or the first 74 depending on the end of the vacation break. Are your gauges with or without the center "dot"/button?
EB 74 1.8 EC 75 1.8 another way to tell is to look at the rear right of the engine compartment between the two bolts for the right rear top holder and the center engine lid catch, and see if there is a stud sticking forward to hang the charcoal cannister. If so, it was a 1.8 originally.....EASY!
We are neglecting poor Pat's originality and history! (although I think that they should be combined!)
Well I checked as you suggested George, but no studs; it was a California car I brought to Texas. I have sense had the engine built out to a 2.0, but after looking through the specs posted on this forum things didn't match up. If I was to sell my car "which I'm not" I want to represent the car as it really was/is, the car seemed to me completely original. The plate frame says OTTOs Porsche Venice CA., so maybe they still have records from the VIN#. Mike
Posted by: davep Feb 21 2010, 03:12 PM
No EB engines were used in the 914. So, not original.
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