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Posted by: RJMII Mar 22 2010, 01:02 PM

shipped 4/7/2010. first run of 914-8 emblems closed.


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Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 22 2010, 01:43 PM

Jim, How long are you offering the special price. Wife cut me off for awhile. Just spent 2K on Abby (Alien baby )

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 22 2010, 01:48 PM

She cut YOU off because you drove thousands of miles through hurricanes and blizzards to pick up HER car? Where's the justice?

Posted by: RJMII Mar 22 2010, 01:58 PM

until my wife realizes I should be charging more.

The end of march... then I'll be finishing the run of them and starting a run of something else. i missed seeing you at route 66; i was disappointed that the weather caused your rush in another direction.

Posted by: burton73 Mar 22 2010, 10:23 PM

Are your parts going to have high and low areas like the factory units?


Bob

Posted by: RJMII Mar 22 2010, 11:06 PM

Yes, they are.

Posted by: karlo Mar 25 2010, 05:53 AM

More pictures, please! I'm very close to shelling out the money for this, just need that extra little bump to put me over the edge...

Posted by: McMark Mar 25 2010, 07:42 AM

So far so good! Looking forward to seeing the finished product.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 25 2010, 04:49 PM

Here is another wooden one that I cut out, testing the multi layers gcode. The black one is the loaner for reference.


My new metal end-mill bits should be here soon to where I can cut some out of aluminum.




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Posted by: RJMII Mar 25 2010, 04:49 PM

Thank you, Mark! I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product as well. I'm getting closer.

Posted by: kg6dxn Mar 25 2010, 05:45 PM

I'm in! when will they be ready? when do you need paymant? Does the price include shipping?

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 25 2010, 06:21 PM

That looks great!!! I will be needing one that says 914 - GT in the future

Posted by: RJMII Mar 25 2010, 06:29 PM

I'm hoping to have them ready to ship on April 4th.

The price includes shipping in the lower 48 states.

payment can be made anytime between now and shipping day.

I have enough aluminum to do a run of 10.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 25 2010, 06:32 PM

Thank you! I might play with the design of yours in wood while I wait for my carbide bits/end mills to show up.

Posted by: kg6dxn Mar 25 2010, 06:34 PM

Just sent my Paypal, Thanks!

Posted by: karlo Mar 25 2010, 07:03 PM

You have me convinced. Money sent via Paypal.

- Karl

Posted by: RJMII Mar 25 2010, 07:23 PM

Thank you Mike and Karl. =o)

Posted by: burton73 Mar 25 2010, 10:34 PM

Paypal sent.

Bob

Posted by: kconway Mar 25 2010, 10:59 PM

What is the attachment plan? Will there be pins like on the earlier emblems or adhesive tape?

Posted by: RJMII Mar 25 2010, 11:21 PM

Great question!

Right now they are just flat pieces of metal that would need adhesive tape. (now included)

I can look into using pins if someone wants them.

Posted by: McMark Mar 26 2010, 10:20 AM

Just use emblem tape, like EVERY modern car. Forget the pins. They're too much work.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Automotive/OEM/Products/Exterior/Badging/

Posted by: RJMII Mar 26 2010, 10:27 AM

Mark, thanks for the tip.

adhesive tape it is, then. =o)

Posted by: karlo Mar 26 2010, 12:45 PM

If you can make them with pins, I'd be interested in paying a little extra.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 26 2010, 03:56 PM

Do you already have holes in the back of your car? If so, how far apart are they?

I'm looking into options for pins for you; it looks like I could make shallow holes and then silver solder them or epoxy them into the holes.

Posted by: computers4kids Mar 26 2010, 08:46 PM

914-Automatic ?

Posted by: RJMII Mar 26 2010, 10:08 PM

Let me see if my x-axis will travel that far. =o) I might have to do it in a couple of stages, but... yeah. I'll give it a shot.

the CNC mill runs off of a different computer than what I do my designing on, and I just got some strips of aluminum that would probably be long enough.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 27 2010, 04:10 PM

I've been playing with the 914-GT script in wood while waiting for the end mill bits for the aluminum.

Here's a pic:

It pushes the limits of my little mill; I'm thinking anything longer will have to be done in a couple of stages.


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Posted by: RJMII Mar 27 2010, 04:42 PM

and trimmed...


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Posted by: BKLA Mar 27 2010, 05:26 PM

Jim-

these are looking great! Great Job!

Send me an email with a price for the 914-6 and the 2.7. I'll paypal the same day!

Posted by: karlo Mar 27 2010, 05:34 PM

Very nice!

The previous owner either closed up the holes, or the car never had them. Just place the pins in a manner similar to the original "914" emblem.

- Karl

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 27 2010, 07:30 PM

It looks awesome !!!!! Maybe I should get one just to motivate me to finish my GT replica ..... !!!

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 27 2010, 07:31 PM

This is great !!! Now I dont' have to make one myself .....

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 28 2010, 10:21 AM

So what will the price be for the 914-GT tag? They are looking so beautiful .......... I can't wait ........

Posted by: marks914 Mar 28 2010, 04:53 PM

I like the 914-GT, I am in for one. Move the T closer to the G though
Mark

As for making the tape nice, we can laser cut it so that it will fit niceley on the back. I like to tay 1.0mm underflush of the emblem all the way around.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 28 2010, 07:48 PM

Okay, will do. How much closer would you like it? I should probably remove the dash between the G and the T as well?

laser cutting sounds nice. I wish I had those capabilities. =o) maybe someday.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 28 2010, 07:51 PM

$65 for the GT ones, they are taking a bit more work.

and thank you! I'm really looking forward to cutting out of aluminum this week.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 29 2010, 02:54 PM

I'm setting up the mill to cut this one out right now. =o)

I get to start cutting aluminum first thing tomorrow!

The mill is heading out to my dad's shop so I didn't have to build a shrowd to catch the chips flying off of it. It'll be good to have the noise out of the apartment, too.

I'm ahead of schedule for getting these done, and should have some aluminum chips soon enough.

I'm pretty excited about getting to make these; thank you everyone so far for your support and questions and suggestions.

The green lines are the tool path; and the blue ones are the lines that they are following. As you can see here, I still need to pocket out the insides of the 9 and the 6.


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Posted by: gothspeed Mar 29 2010, 03:07 PM

I am ok with the distance between the G and the T ......... though absolutely no dash between the letters.

Here is what I want in the font you are using ....

914-GT

Will this be bare aluminum, powder coated or anodised?

Posted by: RJMII Mar 29 2010, 03:12 PM

Okay! I can do that. =o) I can work on that next, while the 914-6 is running through the wood version to check the tool paths.

Bare aluminum.

Posted by: RJMII Mar 29 2010, 06:06 PM

Here is the 914-6 out of wood.

The cheeto's thumb print is going to buff right out. I also need to add the tail back onto the '4'. and that's why I do them out of wood first.

the second picture is for the 914-GT modifications.

gothspeed, Mark, what do you two think? Should I make a wood one for your twos' approvals?




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Posted by: BKLA Mar 29 2010, 07:29 PM

Great job Jim!

Send mine just raw aluminum as I am rethinking what I want as a finish. I may just polish the snot out of them!
- or plate them
- or powdercoat them
- or anodize them....

Maybe they won't even go on the car!

Posted by: RJMII Mar 29 2010, 10:01 PM

Thanks, Brett! I'm aiming to please. =o)

Here's the first one in rough form. Playing with aluminum is a bit different than wood, that's for sure.

This one won't be going anywhere, it was for the sole purpose of practicing with the aluminum so the ones that leave will be perfect. =o)

More pictures will come as more of them are made.


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Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 30 2010, 09:44 AM

Very nice Jim

Posted by: kconway Mar 30 2010, 10:40 AM

You ought to try putting the 3M emblem tape on the aluminum stock before you mill it or do you think it would tear it up?

Posted by: RJMII Mar 30 2010, 10:49 AM

Kevin;

It would tear it up, and it would change the distance between one end of the emblem and the other end by too many .001's of an inch to mill evenly. (I gave that idea some thought as well, and vetoed it myself)

However, applying the 3m tape afterwords and taking a razor blade to it will work wonders.

I need to go back and edit about it not coming with the tape, I realized I can pick it up at cost from NAPA so it would be cheaper for me to do it and more beneficial to you guys that are buying/have bought.

Posted by: zymurgist Mar 30 2010, 11:38 AM

It's cool when you can use your toys to make things for other peoples' toys.

Posted by: McMark Mar 30 2010, 11:42 AM

Awesome! And I'm really glad to hear you'll provide them with the adhesive already installed.

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 30 2010, 01:16 PM

I like it !!!

Posted by: kconway Mar 30 2010, 02:00 PM

Yeah, badass. I'll take a GT version.

Posted by: RJMII Apr 1 2010, 06:27 PM

Getting closer to perfection...

If someone wants to claim this one as is; I can drop it in the mail tomorrow with a piece of sticky tape. (like what McMark linked to, or something very similar)

I can get some hi-res pics, too. my mom has a 12mp camera, and I have webserver space to upload to.


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Posted by: kconway Apr 1 2010, 08:27 PM

Hey, by the way; how does the thickness of the material compare to OEM badges?

Posted by: RJMII Apr 1 2010, 08:45 PM

looks like. .012" difference.


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Posted by: JRust Apr 1 2010, 08:50 PM

Looking good Jim! May need to figure something bigger for my gt engine lid

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Apr 2 2010, 11:35 AM

Posted by: zymurgist Apr 2 2010, 11:42 AM

Don't know how well these would sell, but have you thought about NARP in the same font?

Posted by: RJMII Apr 2 2010, 12:07 PM

I can draw it up and see. =o) I'll be populating my website with all of the suggestions; and we'll see how well they do. Thank you for contributing another suggestion!

Posted by: rohar Apr 2 2010, 12:19 PM

Have you thought of putting some gorilla tape on the back (to keep it square) and throwing it in a ball mill for a few hours? I'd think it'd smooth out the hard edges and polish it up nicely. I've got one I made out of a coffee can, some skate board bearings and an old mixer that works nice for things like this

Posted by: RJMII Apr 2 2010, 01:06 PM

rohar, thanks for the tip! I might try polishing up one of the emblems from the practice runs that I've been using to test feed speeds. My parents have a rock polisher that just might do the trick... Thanks! I'll give it a try. =o)

Posted by: rohar Apr 2 2010, 01:25 PM

I've got a small foundry in the back yard, the issue comes up a lot I've thought about using a rock polisher then I saw the price.

Paint can/coffee can with a piece of allthread through it and a pair of 2x4 blocks for the ends and a mixer from the second hand store did the job. I fill it with some sand and old nuts and bolts for medium. Just vary the ratio of nuts and bolts to sand for "aggressiveness". Ball bearings are wonderful if you come across a good deal.

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Apr 2 2010, 03:58 PM

SO cool. I was on a V* quest for abit and absolutely would have purchased one if I had found the right car.

Could you knock off the euro"914-6-VW-Porsche" badge? I would think you could sell a pile of those. The current ones in the market are way over priced.

Again, great job.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Apr 2 2010, 04:17 PM

George should have a handle on those here very soon.

Posted by: RJMII Apr 2 2010, 04:26 PM

Yeah, George is doing those. =o) His will be gold... I wonder if he'll give me a good deal on Bovey's old one that he cut in two. Then I can do the aluminum ones.

Posted by: smrz914 Apr 2 2010, 04:32 PM

So I ordered the 914-8 emblem, but would like to know if there is enough interest in a 918 emblem. I would probably take one of those too.

Posted by: burton73 Apr 2 2010, 04:36 PM

These will need to be hand finished with silicone carbide paper but first tape it down to a hard surface to work on it. Or taped to a board and put in a vibratory finisher with small media with abrasive media mixed in cast polyester plastic. This works great for this type of work. You do not want to bevel the backside. After you are done with the vibratory polishing you can put the part in acetone to remove the tape. Or cut it or heat it.


The factory parts are sanded after they are cast in white metal. I have looked my 914-6 VW Porsche unit and note the shrink marks from the casting plus I can see the bevels.

Bob

Posted by: RJMII Apr 2 2010, 04:47 PM

Paul; the 914-8 emblems are my starting point. They are helping me to learn the feeds and speeds and the pre-orders helped fund the aluminum, the end mills (I've already broken 3), and to get input.

When I finish this run of 914-8 emblems I'll be putting a bunch of options on my website and in a members vendor thread here. The 918 will be one of them. =o)

So far I've had quite a bit of input and great tips; and I appreciate all of the assistance in the learning process. There's a great group of guys here, that's for sure.

Now to find some silicone carbide paper. =o) I have more than one emblem that I've screwed up that I can try out a polishing technique.

Posted by: rohar Apr 2 2010, 07:38 PM

burton73 made a great point about vibratory polishing, so much easier than doing it by hand. If you don't have one, you can put a make shift vibrator can together with, you guessed it, a paint can. Fill it with media, drop your part in it, duck tape a palm sander to the top and hang it from the ceiling by a rope. Plug it in and let it sit for a while

Posted by: bigkensteele Apr 2 2010, 10:46 PM

or buy one from Harbor Freight for $50
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93252

Posted by: rohar Apr 2 2010, 11:16 PM

I own one of those! I hate the stupid bolt in the middle that holds the lid on, gets in the way of longer pieces. Besides, $50 is a set of pads or over half a set of stainless brake lines. Priorities!

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Apr 3 2010, 08:49 AM

thankfully I still have an unused one.... that cost me 29.00 from our local dealer.

Posted by: burton73 Apr 3 2010, 12:27 PM

“Or taped to a board and put in a vibratory finisher with small media with abrasive media mixed in cast polyester plastic”.

This is some of the kind of stuff that works great. I have just a different brand but Harbor has this for cheep.



Bob

Posted by: RJMII Apr 3 2010, 12:35 PM

Bob, so do you want me to send the raw metal version to you? I can leave the 3m tape off of it for you to finish the way you'd like.

Posted by: burton73 Apr 3 2010, 01:10 PM

Please send me with tape on and if you would send me and extra piece of tape it would be great. If you material is on a roll you can stick it to wax paper. I think I will finish by hand with Silicone Carbide (Wet Dry) sand paper in different grits and a Dremel tool.

Thank you very much.

Bob

Posted by: BKLA Apr 5 2010, 03:44 PM

Any update?

Posted by: RJMII Apr 5 2010, 06:25 PM

My wife took claim of me over the weekend; so today was a busy day with the emblems.

so update? Yes! I should be able to get the 914-8 emblems out tomorrow that are not on the polish list.

I'm still trying to figure out the posts for the one that is getting them.

The 914-6 order is waiting for the 2.7 to be drawn up and cut out.

Posted by: RJMII Apr 6 2010, 07:44 PM

I had a busy day today.

I'm working on cleaning these up and getting the rough edges off of them.

It seems as if everyone wants to try a different way of polishing theirs, so I will clean the rough edges and include a foot of 3m emblem adhesive with each one. It will be on wax paper, since it came in a roll.

(any objections; PM me. )


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Posted by: kg6dxn Apr 6 2010, 09:57 PM

You can send mine un pollished. No problemo

Posted by: RJMII Apr 7 2010, 03:42 PM

Mike; yours is at the post office with my wife right now.

She also has the rest of the 914-8's that have been paid for; except for Karl's.

I am working on the pins for Karl's; trying to figure out how to do w/out screwing it up.

I left the adhesive tape off, and included it on a piece of wax paper. I would have applied it and cleaned it up, but again, you all have your own (great!) ideas on how you'd like to try polishing them.
If you ordered one of these and accidentally screw it up, PM me... I'll cut the first run orders a heck of a deal on a second one, as a way of saying 'thank you' for being my first customers.

the first run of 914-8 emblems is done. =o)

Posted by: Porcharu Apr 7 2010, 04:18 PM

Did you hand code the G-code or 'cheat' and use software
Steve

Posted by: RJMII Apr 7 2010, 05:10 PM

Steve, you see the screen shots earlier in the thread? that's bobCAD. that's my 'cheat' right there.

I had to go in and look at my gcode, though. I went over the lines to make sure I wouldn't break anymore bits.

Posted by: karlo Apr 14 2010, 05:13 PM

If it's a lot of trouble for you, don't spend any more time on it. I can mount it with adhesive instead.

- Karl

Posted by: Jeroen Dec 29 2010, 06:55 AM

Received Jim's custom emblems this morning
They're awesome!
Thanks Jim

Posted by: kg6dxn Dec 29 2010, 09:17 AM

I can hardly wait for my new one. 914-1.3T

Posted by: RJMII Dec 29 2010, 09:32 AM

Jeroen, Thank you for posting the pics those look incredible!

Mike, I'm looking forward to milling yours as well! The new 'look' is going to be fun. My mill is set up for cranking out 40 little wheel blanks, and then I'm cutting out a few more emblems.