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Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 23 2010, 05:29 PM

So much for the new tires I was going to buy. Rear ended a big Tahoe today. Went right under the bumper, barely a scratch on the SUV, but I bunged up my right front sheet metal, etc.

I'd been planning on some body and paint work for some time, so it looks like this will force my hand. Hate the idea of being off the road just when the sun is starting to come out. Any of you NW guys need some side work?







The front end already had some slight damage from the PO: bumper tits, hood alignment, etc., so this means I have to finally move ahead with making it into the 914 I've always envisioned. Time to make lemonade.

Posted by: Gint Mar 23 2010, 05:35 PM

Ouch. That's *not* going to rub out.

Posted by: Daiberl Mar 23 2010, 05:43 PM

Oh, not good Let me know if you need a helping hand, if you need it painted I can recommend Jerry Mahoney, he did a great job on my car.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 23 2010, 05:44 PM

I'd love some side work Marc but I don't know if this is beyond my knowledge. We can talk about it and see though

Posted by: aircooledtechguy Mar 23 2010, 05:49 PM

D'oh!! Sorry to hear about the accident. I hope you fared better than the car??

On the bright side, the damage doesn't look too bad. I'm no body guy and don't even pretend to be.

Posted by: effutuo101 Mar 23 2010, 05:50 PM

I may have a new piece you can weld in there. but, it requires a little bit of plasma cutter to get.

Posted by: r_towle Mar 23 2010, 05:52 PM

That sucks.
A good metal guy can hammer and dolly that close to the right shape..try to avoid welding a new piece on....hammer it out if you can.

rich

Posted by: Jon Fernandes Mar 23 2010, 06:20 PM

That sucks man, but it doesn't look too bad. Is the hood bent?

Posted by: RJMII Mar 23 2010, 06:23 PM

That really sucks.

hopefully it's something Jon can do; he needs to keep his COTM wannabe.

Posted by: Tom Mar 23 2010, 06:33 PM

Marc,
Sure sorry to see this. I do, however like your attitude. " now's the time to make it into the 914 you love"
Good luck on fixing this and getting it back on the road.
Tom

Posted by: URY914 Mar 23 2010, 06:33 PM

Looks like the bumper cap made it OK. Be thankful for that.

Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 23 2010, 06:33 PM

That sux! I'm not close enough to help but that is repairable. I'm fixing way worse than that right now. If I didn't have a computer crash I would show you photos. The lap top I'm posting from doesn't even have a slot for my camera's flash drive. Watch for my post about area51werks alien autotopsy over the next couple days when I can get my computer back up and running. I have some stark evidence that a dent like that can be fixed.

Posted by: messix Mar 23 2010, 06:57 PM

Posted by: greenie Mar 23 2010, 07:15 PM

I would suggest that you pay attention to your driving in the future.

You kid's and all your electronic gizmos are a hazard to us prudent and cautious drivers.

I think it's a total.

Learn from this little episode and slow down next time.

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 23 2010, 07:19 PM

Oh hell, it's no big deal. I've got a spare green one in the other garage that nobody ever drives. I'll just use that one.

Posted by: porschecb Mar 23 2010, 07:47 PM

Mind telling us how that happend?

Posted by: jmill Mar 23 2010, 08:11 PM

That's not bad at all. New hood and some fender work and your all done. Check out my progress thread to see the damage I have in that same corner. Be thankful you dove under and didn't get the headlight bucket and front valance.

Posted by: Sleepin Mar 23 2010, 08:20 PM

There are other ways to get a Chalon conversion done...albiet none probably as quick as that was.

Seriously though, that sucks! Make lemonade like you said!

Posted by: Pat Garvey Mar 23 2010, 08:29 PM

Umm, I'd be a little bit conservative about this event, since we know nothing of the circumstances. You've already made yourself Judge & Jury, yet we know knothing of the accident.

It's NOT a TOTAL. And the last thing we want is another 914 lost. It's a minor scrape. Easilly fixed.
Chill!
Pat

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 23 2010, 08:34 PM

Not to worry Pat. Greenie is just a reactionary who is so excitable that when he farts he thinks he needs a brain tranplant. Thanks for sticking up for me though.

Posted by: jsaum Mar 23 2010, 08:41 PM

Ouch! that's not to bad. Let me know if you find someone. Here's where I'm at with my fender I had nothing to lose and only knowledge to gain by pounding mine out. It's amazing now you can get the sheet metal to move. My goal was to get it to the point where I can get the turn signal light back in and get it on the street. I have some really nasty creases in it so it will never look good. Once I get it all back together I plan on finding someone who can splice a good piece back in. Maybe we can get a two fer?




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Posted by: 6freak Mar 23 2010, 08:44 PM

I would say failure to stop in time ..pretty cut and dry ...you didnt get hurt thats what matters and its just a car ...you gonna go for pulp free lemonade

Posted by: Frost Mar 23 2010, 09:08 PM

Time for some flares!

Posted by: PanelBilly Mar 23 2010, 09:11 PM

Doesn't look so bad to me. Are you thinking of working on it yourself or just turning it over to someone else?

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 23 2010, 09:34 PM

I'll need to turn it over to someone for the paint and body work. I've got too many other projects and not enough time or expertise.

Posted by: greenie Mar 23 2010, 09:38 PM

kkk

Posted by: 914junkie Mar 23 2010, 09:40 PM

That sucks, sorry to hear that happened. I have a straight fender and hood you can have for free if you want to pick them up down in Vancouver, WA. PM me if yer interested. Paul S.

Posted by: greenie Mar 23 2010, 09:42 PM

Pat,

I'll have to disagree with you on this subject.

It's been my misfortune to have driven on numerous occasions with Mr. Kelty360.

The last time out with we had a supposed fun run ( AirCooledTechnologyGuy can vouch for me) this punk kid (Kelty360) was pushing us toward unsafe conditions.

He's does not have the maturity and is to easily distracted by his blutooth, ipods, cell phones etc. to operate in a safe manner.

He's a menace, I''m tired of his ilk giving the rest of us a bad name!

I'm sorry for calling out a member but someone needs to do it!

I say "Ban Kelty360"!!

Sorry if I've offended anyone.

Posted by: messix Mar 23 2010, 09:52 PM

i
ll have to agree with Greenie here on this.

i think that Kelty360 couldn't reach the brake pedal to boot!
young punks!

Posted by: messix Mar 23 2010, 09:57 PM

and this guy is on his way to surpassing Jim in wreaking/killing 914's

he's so bad, he sneaks up on peoples cars and breaks the door handles.
this guy is a menace!

Posted by: championgt1 Mar 23 2010, 10:05 PM

What a bummer! Teener Tuesday!

Posted by: greenie Mar 23 2010, 10:06 PM

Troy,

Don't get me started on this, he's a baaad man!

I'm grateful for your support.

Greenie

Posted by: messix Mar 23 2010, 10:14 PM

I feel it's my duty to humanity to warn all those that i can reach with this post to the danger that this miscreant is to society and especially porsche 914 cars!

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 23 2010, 10:59 PM

So, I see your true colors now. It's all puppy dogs and roses til the going gets tough. Well the gloves are off now I know where there's some pristine zambieze sheet metal just waiting to donate to a good cause. I've got a sawzall and I know how to use it. And Troy, that crack about reaching the brake pedal.....

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 24 2010, 12:06 AM

You "rear ended a Tahoe today". Ain't no excuse for hitting someone from behind. Texting? Dropped your coffee? Not paying attention? If a 914 gets rear ended everyone wants to lynch the guy that hit it. You hit someone from behind and "gosh golly I guess I'll have to make lemonade". What good fortune to hit someone from behind because now you can make the 914 you always wanted.

Posted by: greenie Mar 24 2010, 06:57 AM

Very well said Elliot.

Listening to all of Mr Kelty360s handwringing, woe is me, amd "lemons to lemonade" nonsense we still have not heard how he caused this serious accident.

Was he texting? or was this another one of his episodes?

Let's see if he can man-up and come clean.

Posted by: RobW Mar 24 2010, 06:59 AM

Posted by: RobW Mar 24 2010, 07:04 AM

I would think its a blond with a casually relaxed dress code featuring extraordinary assets.... but then again, its the NW so it might have been Big Foot or a UFO....

Posted by: ghuff Mar 24 2010, 10:01 AM

Wow you guys are owning this kid.


I rear ended somebody once in a nice looking 1995 Jetta. It was my fault, I was sleepy and literally turned the radio knob while not looking for 1/2 a second, but that 1/2 second was 2-3 and a 5mph bump it was.


I was 19 years old. I learned, and now I do not do that shit ever.


What has he done in the past on these spirited drives you guys speak of?


When our car club has these, only select people are allowed to go because a lot of people drive outside their limits and their vehicles limits.

I like to call it video game driving, they turn the wheel so hard and sharp with no feel like it's a static thing for each corner while flooring it. No concept for angle of the car in corner, understeer/oversteer, apex etc.

Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 10:44 AM

yes this kid fully deserves what he is getting from us!
i don't think we will be inviting him to our teener tuesdays until he gets some more years of life experience and calms his wreakless immature behaviour.
if he shows up to the wwc this year i recommend every one give him a wide berth and consider who you want to be associated with. thats all i'm saying.

Posted by: ghuff Mar 24 2010, 10:46 AM

Well, let's hear some facts and experience to back it. Because actions in public on drives and facts are just that.....

So please do tell. You may save someone else and their car.

Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 10:55 AM

I'll let Mr Greenie comment more on this as i recognized the dangerous nature of Kelty360 shortly after i met him and have limited my exposure to him, however Mr Greenie has tried to take him under his wing to mentor him at great risk to his saftey and reputation. this has seemed to be a total waste of time and effort, much to Mr Geenie's frustration as exposed by this thread.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 24 2010, 11:12 AM

Did you call Marc young?

Posted by: ghuff Mar 24 2010, 11:15 AM

Let's define young. I'm 28 going on 29 this year.

I know I am closer to young for this board, and car apparently. But we have some teens here if I remember right and college age folk.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 24 2010, 11:24 AM

I'm 31.... and Marc is...

Hey Marc, just how well do you remember when they released the first gas powered car?

Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 11:26 AM

well he's not quite as young as you, but yes i and also Mr Geenie have.

I have one example where Kelty360 had put many in danger at one of our teener tuesdays, but this was preceded by the drive up to our meeting place that Mr Geenie had led kELTY360 to the meeting location. this as related by Mr Geenie to the group gathered as "harrowing"! Kelty360 had nearly lost total control of his car several times!
Kelty360 later endangered the whole group and more so Mr
Geenie by enticing and futher more encouraging a young lady that was in the presence of some very large and dangerous looking "counrty" boys to try to engage Mr Greenie in what many would consider infedelity to his marriage. you see the meeting place was in a town know for it's back woods country and biker type atmosphere, and not some where to "mess around" with the locals.
if you search our teener tuesday thread and look from references to the town of Carnation you will find the whole episode as it happened then.

Posted by: Todd Enlund Mar 24 2010, 11:43 AM

Obviously a menace. Look how inattentive he is to his driving.

Posted by: greenie Mar 24 2010, 12:01 PM

Troy,

I just wish I was as good a judge of character as you appear to be!
Somehow you really read the true person that Kelty360 is.

I have wasted many years trying to turn this fellows life around only to be rewarded by threats to me and my property.

Very upsetting, I may have to take the afternoon off.

Posted by: ghuff Mar 24 2010, 12:06 PM

Sounds very classy, now threats to property and life?

Posted by: championgt1 Mar 24 2010, 12:42 PM

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 24 2010, 12:45 PM

"You're only as old as the woman you feel". Groucho.

Posted by: Rand Mar 24 2010, 12:51 PM

I was present and have partial incriminating photo evidence to back that story up. Wait, I see the accused (and the accuser) in this pic but not Greenie. This must have been just prior to the country boys chasing him down the street.


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Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 01:00 PM

in this picture please notice on the far right the other miscreant Jim [he has changed his user name many times to obscure and misrepresented german phrases and words to try to weasel his way back into the 914 fold.] that we have shunned from our presence for killing several 914's do to his immaturity and recklessnes.

Posted by: andys Mar 24 2010, 01:23 PM

Marc,

That's nearly identical to what the PO did when I bought my car several years ago, though it was the left side that got crushed (submarined a Mustang). I did the metal work myself, though the hood I did replace. It's not quite finished in that "after" picture.

Andys




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Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 01:29 PM

I recall another time just this last summer, Mr Greenie in all his good nature and belief in the good in people had brought Kelty360 to a bbq that one of our northwest members Mike aka 6Freak had graced us with at his home. while Mike was busy tending the bbq with his very generous spread bbq meats and sausages kelty 360 had convinced many of the gathered that a car that Mike had obtained and was considering as a restoration project for he and his son was in fact a car that was to be cut up and scraped! before Mike knew what was happening the car had been cut in quarters and many parts had been loaded up and taken away.
this was by my opinion taken very admirally by Mike in his understanding as to how we had all been fooled by Kelty 360 and did not hold us accontable for what had happened.
Mike aka 6Freak is a class act and here again we had seen the nefarous character that Mr Kelty360 is.

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 24 2010, 01:34 PM

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 24 2010, 01:42 PM

I was so old I told those young whippersnappers it was just a fad. Never amount to anything.

This has all been entertaining and some of you are having too much fun, but in all seriousness, I've just learned that the driver of the other car is claiming some lower back pain. I've got good insurance so that's not a problem, but for obvious reasons I won't be responding to any of the spurious, unfounded, and wildly speculative claims made in this thread.

Thanks to all who've offered assistance and advice.

Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 01:55 PM

wow! sorry mark.
it's about the standard for any accident for claims of injury to gain a profit from your insurance company.

all my posts have been stupendously huge exagerations and manufactured liables against my good friend mark.

no harm meant buddy.

Posted by: Rand Mar 24 2010, 02:11 PM

By now it should be completely obvious this was purely friends joking with each other. It should also be obvious that if Marc was not a mature and responsible driver, the nature of the jokes wouldn't make any sense at all.

Driver claiming back pain?
The 914 slides just under the bumper barely scratching the SUV, and only gets this much damage to the turn signal area? No way there was enough impact to injure the driver.


Best of luck Marc.

Posted by: ghuff Mar 24 2010, 02:21 PM

I need a new sarcasm detector.

It has completely been broken on text.

I h8 you guys

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 24 2010, 02:22 PM

Being out of the loop for a while, I was scratching my head for a second. But Troy set me straight.

Marc, you know you have resources to help get your 914 fixed.

Posted by: greenie Mar 24 2010, 02:25 PM

Marc,

Let me know if I can help.

Curt

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 24 2010, 02:29 PM

Now I have been told that even the slightest hit can upset your back when you get really really really old.

I think Curt could have that all straightened out in no time Can use my garage to paint if you wish...or I can paint

Posted by: Rand Mar 24 2010, 02:37 PM

It would have taken a stellar sarcasm detector to catch it without knowing these PNW clowns - That's why they were having so much fun with it. I was wondering how far it would go. Bummer a bit of insurance claim reality had to spoil it before we found out.

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 24 2010, 02:38 PM

Thanks guys, I probably owe a BBQ for all the 'luv'. Now if only I can figure how to match the paint to oxidized Marathon Blue...it's the metallic that's tough.

Posted by: messix Mar 24 2010, 02:47 PM

scuff it and paint the whole car.

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 24 2010, 03:17 PM

Not a bad idea, remove all the trimings and just give it a quick one-coat job. Would be good for 10 years probably.

Posted by: greenie Mar 24 2010, 08:05 PM

A couple of pics to cheer Marc ( and me ) up!

You guys are the best!

(Hope the General doesn't see this)


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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 24 2010, 10:38 PM

looks like her conversion operation took quite well

If you got insurance and they going to make a claim agianst you might as well get your car fixed at a shop in a timely fashion, and enjoy the summer.

Posted by: Todd Enlund Mar 24 2010, 10:57 PM

I agree. I'm amazed that the driver even felt the impact.

That sucks. Sorry Marc.

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 26 2010, 08:18 PM

I think that's the plan now. got an estimate from Mark @ Eurotech today and we'll talk more early next week. The estimate was reasonable and he certainly knows these cars well. We are fortunate in the NW to have so many resources in the area.

Posted by: 6freak Mar 26 2010, 08:48 PM

I`m STILL trying to get all those parts back

Posted by: 6freak Mar 26 2010, 08:55 PM

Just remembered the front of that old 74 went to eurotech ...how weird is that

Posted by: 6freak Mar 26 2010, 08:58 PM

who`s daughter ...cant be a girl friend because no girl that pretty would hang with use Jokers

Posted by: messix Mar 26 2010, 09:14 PM

that really was a girl that was with some country boys ... big ones... looked mean and not so happy about thier girl being groped by a bunch of dirty old men.

Posted by: Rand Mar 26 2010, 11:56 PM

Dudes, you gottsta learn how to quote.
Oy.
One bracket breaks everything.
Slackerz
Seriously... Don't delete a char before the ] or whatever.
Donta chazza uzza

Posted by: Rand Mar 27 2010, 12:00 AM

Now I know why Brad threw in the towel.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 27 2010, 12:10 AM

Just curios. Is the bumper top one of my solid ones? I'm interested to determine if they have a better survivability in this type of accident. Either way it looks like it did well.

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 27 2010, 12:24 AM

To the best of my knowledge it's original. I haven't cleaned it up yet to see if it's truly OK, but if not, I'll be looking for you.

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 27 2010, 12:38 AM

Mine have only been out for about a year, so more than likely it's OEM.
Thanks,
Mark

Posted by: familienauto Mar 27 2010, 12:43 AM

What an amusing thread.

Best of luck getting it fixed the way you want Mark.

Signed,
A PNW lurker.

Posted by: messix Sep 11 2010, 12:00 AM

ooooohhhhh!!!!!!

should we revive this thread again????

thanks for finding it again and bringing it to my attention!!!!

Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 11 2010, 05:35 AM

Show your left front fender !!

Posted by: KELTY360 Sep 11 2010, 11:06 AM

OK, OK...I so love seeing this thread at the top of the page. As documented elsewhere, Eurotech Bodywerkes did a tremendous job on the fender repair and repaint. Truly a lemons to lemonade story.

Lemons:



Refreshment in process:





Lemonade!



Let me just say how gratifying it was to have the support of the PNW Teeners through that difficult time. Makes me think of butterflies and rainbows Love you guys No really, I do I think it's time for a Teener Tuesday; maybe that will get me inspired to fix my intermittent starting problem.

Posted by: messix Sep 11 2010, 11:43 AM

that'd be right front fender

Posted by: KELTY360 Sep 11 2010, 12:21 PM

The freckles on his wrist morphed into age spots and now he can't tell right from left.

Don't laugh Troy it's going to happen to you too!

Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 11 2010, 03:38 PM

left when you look at it from straight on

Posted by: messix Sep 11 2010, 04:45 PM

what's going to happen to me...... what are we talking about..... damn CRS[can't remember shit]

Posted by: messix Jun 18 2011, 06:07 PM

it's baaack!

Posted by: RobW Jun 18 2011, 10:09 PM