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Posted by: LotusJoe Apr 9 2010, 04:50 PM
I am missing a bunch of engine tin screws. What size are these screws? Looks like a M6???? 
Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 9 2010, 04:51 PM
M6
Posted by: LotusJoe Apr 9 2010, 04:52 PM
M6
Like a M6 X10 ???
Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 9 2010, 04:54 PM
Invaluable resource for these kind of things:
http://www.porsche.com/latin-america-en/accessoriesandservices/classic/genuineparts/originalpartscatalogue/
That and...
www.mcmaster.com
...and you're in fastener heaven.
Posted by: LotusJoe Apr 9 2010, 05:03 PM
Invaluable resource for these kind of things:
http://www.porsche.com/latin-america-en/accessoriesandservices/classic/genuineparts/originalpartscatalogue/
That and...
www.mcmaster.com
...and you're in fastener heaven.
Thanks!! Saves me a ton of time
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 9 2010, 10:20 PM
There's one on the right over-cylinder tin, under the plenum, that is larger. I forget if it's M7 or M8.
--DD
Posted by: type47 Apr 10 2010, 05:40 AM
Socket head bolts are nice to use in those hard to get to places. Black oxide ones are cheap at Home Depot, Lowe's, or local hardware store.
Posted by: thomasotten Apr 10 2010, 05:29 PM
check the online VW places. They have them, and they have a stainless steel finish.
Posted by: McMark Apr 10 2010, 07:58 PM
Dave, good catch! That's only on later cases, but you're right.
Posted by: veltror Apr 11 2010, 10:19 AM
There is no way I am going to use screws again, it was a bastard to get some of my screws off and the ones which I replaced with ocket heads I used cheap ones which rusted and rounded off, an even bigger bastard to do, I suggest stainless socket heads or you could go for these
http://www.volksbolts.com/eng.htm
roman
Posted by: charliew Apr 11 2010, 10:51 AM
m6x10. I got a set of ss socket button head for a super beetle 1600 from someone on samba but I am going to try to find the source as I need lots of them for my projects.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 11 2010, 11:01 AM
Dave, good catch! That's only on later cases, but you're right.
I didn't realize it was only later! Do you know where the break was? (Hmm... Time to go spelunking in the parts catalog....
--DD
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 11 2010, 11:36 AM
Curious, the catalog doesn't mention any larger screws.... It also lists several different lengths:
M6x10: 8 + 4 + 2 = 14
M6x12: 5 + 3 + 4 + 4 + 2 = 18
M6x15: 2 + 4 + 2 = 8
...Plus the two M5 screws for the cylinder-bottom tin, and 7 more M6x12 for the front tin--and one M6x12 bolt (yes, the Cap'n is right once again!) for the front-most holes on the front tin.
Very interesting!!
--DD
Posted by: stateofidleness Apr 11 2010, 11:50 AM
Curious, the catalog doesn't mention any larger screws.... It also lists several different lengths:
M6x10: 8 + 4 + 2 = 14
M6x12: 5 + 3 + 4 + 4 + 2 = 18
M6x15: 2 + 4 + 2 = 8
...Plus the two M5 screws for the cylinder-bottom tin, and 7 more M6x12 for the front tin--and one M6x12 bolt (yes, the Cap'n is right once again!) for the front-most holes on the front tin.
Very interesting!!
--DD
Hey Dave, I was actually about to head to local hardware store to get all the engine tin screws and was perusing the site for a compiled list of all sizes/lengths I would need.
Can you confirm this:
M6x10: 14
M6x12: 18 + ftront (12)
M6x15: 8
M5x?: 2
M6x12 (bolt?): what's the difference?
Posted by: charliew Apr 11 2010, 03:10 PM
Stainless steel socket head m6x10 12mm long, pck of 50 $11.00 + shipping
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=Product:MS2550012A20000&ucst=t
I ordered these and they are allen head ss screws and not button head screws like I thought.
Posted by: stateofidleness Apr 11 2010, 03:31 PM
can those be used throughout the whole engine tin or are different sizes necessary?
I'm really dreading this part as I don't remember where screws came from
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 11 2010, 07:58 PM
I cannot confirm anything other than that's what the catalog says. I think I used M6x10 Allen screws for all of them on mine, except for the larger one where I re-used the funky fastener that the PO installed.
BTW, the bolt is just a regular hex head bolt, not a slot-head screw. Nothing special about it, just that it isn't a screw. That's because it's difficult to get a screwdriver onto the screw-head on the forward-facing fastener. (The one holding the two pieces of front engine tin together.)
--DD
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 11 2010, 10:27 PM
I have the 10mm allen head scres in stainless with stainless washers for $18 if you need them. I would definately stay away from the black oxide as they WILL rust. Cheaper, but not really what you want.
Last line on the list.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=91029&st=0#entry1113642
Posted by: stateofidleness Apr 11 2010, 10:38 PM
If i need all 4 sides that seal the engine tin to the engine bay, which "set" would I be looking for?
can you price me a set of the screws and a set of the seals?
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 12 2010, 12:23 AM
If i need all 4 sides that seal the engine tin to the engine bay, which "set" would I be looking for?
can you price me a set of the screws and a set of the seals?
You are correct that is all 4 seals. The long front ans 2 sides of the "J" seal and the "Y" seal for the back. $76 for the set,
Screws for $18.
Shipping $6
I'll PM you with the payment info.
Posted by: stateofidleness Apr 12 2010, 12:57 AM
sounds good! it'll be wednesday before i pull the trigger, but look for it then!
thanks
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