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Posted by: woodgeek May 12 2010, 07:43 AM
Do all 914 rear calipers use the funky RIBE fasteners? I'm spending this coming weekend working on my 1975 1.8 and I'm trying to gather up / order all of the tools and supplies I'll need.
My 914 runs but idles rough and the brakes are frozen. So, I've ordered / rounded up the following:
- vacuum hoses
- vacuum / pressure gauge
- f/r brake lines
- brake pressure bleeder / speed bleed nipples
- intake manifold sleeves (the four short ones)
- a dwell meter
- rebuilt front calipers
- rebuild kit for the rear calipers
- injector seals
- triple-square bits
- lots of printed how-to's from Pelican & 914 World
- etc, etc, etc
The only thing I'm uncertain about are the RIBE fasteners on the rear calipers. I've read that the RIBE fasteners are used on the early 914's -- are they only on the early ones? Mine is a '75; will it have those fasteners? The reason I'm asking is the car is 200 miles away so I can't walk out and check.
I'm bringing my torx bits and a propane torch just in case. I've heard that using the torx bits on ribe fasteners can be hit or miss.thanks,
dave
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 12 2010, 09:17 AM
No they combined regular hex and those randomly.
Do all 914 rear calipers use the funky RIBE fasteners? I'm spending this coming weekend working on my 1975 1.8 and I'm trying to gather up / order all of the tools and supplies I'll need.
My 914 runs but idles rough and the brakes are frozen. So, I've ordered / rounded up the following:
- vacuum hoses
- vacuum / pressure gauge
- f/r brake lines
- brake pressure bleeder / speed bleed nipples
- intake manifold sleeves (the four short ones)
- a dwell meter
- rebuilt front calipers
- rebuild kit for the rear calipers
- injector seals
- triple-square bits
- lots of printed how-to's from Pelican & 914 World
- etc, etc, etc
The only thing I'm uncertain about are the RIBE fasteners on the rear calipers. I've read that the RIBE fasteners are used on the early 914's -- are they only on the early ones? Mine is a '75; will it have those fasteners? The reason I'm asking is the car is 200 miles away so I can't walk out and check.
I'm bringing my torx bits and a propane torch just in case. I've heard that using the torx bits on ribe fasteners can be hit or miss.thanks,
dave
Posted by: Eric_Shea May 12 2010, 09:20 AM
Yours have the standard 11mm hex. They are made by both Ribe and Verbus but, you won't have the proprietary head design to deal with. I believe the 45mm are Verbus and your 50mm are Ribe.
That said, someone may have retrofitted an older caliper on the car... I've seen it all (almost). That being the case...
Torx "can" work but in limited capacity. Do not try to tension with a torx. Only use them to hold the fastener head in place and, do all you can to minimize the force put on them (torch, penetrating oil, preload, etc.)
Posted by: woodgeek May 12 2010, 09:31 AM
Yours have the standard 11mm hex. They are made by both Ribe and Verbus but, you won't have the proprietary head design to deal with. I believe the 45mm are Verbus and your 50mm are Ribe.
That said, someone may have retrofitted an older caliper on the car... I've seen it all (almost). That being the case...
Torx "can" work but in limited capacity. Do not try to tension with a torx. Only use them to hold the fastener head in place and, do all you can to minimize the force put on them (torch, penetrating oil, preload, etc.)
Thanks guys and thanks for the welcome!
I'll take some pics this weekend.
Posted by: type47 May 12 2010, 10:29 AM
Any particular reason you are going to separate the rear calipers? I read it might create problems....
Posted by: woodgeek May 12 2010, 10:35 AM
Any particular reason you are going to separate the rear calipers? I read it might create problems....
Well, I want to clean them thoroughly, I'm a glutton for punishment and I love to take things apart. The calipers are over 30 years old so they probably need a good going over. I've read just about every 914 brake rebuild article on the web so I've got a pretty good idea what to expect.
I'm just not sure how many quarts of brake fluid to buy before I start this project.
Posted by: sean_v8_914 May 12 2010, 12:22 PM
what problems are created from caliper separation?
Posted by: Eric_Shea May 12 2010, 01:56 PM
Legal problems, which is how the Internet myth got started.
Posted by: sean_v8_914 May 12 2010, 02:42 PM
every time I see Eric post I wonder: why am i still building calipers? I think I am really done with it. assembly and disassembly are easy. proper caliper cleaning is a pain in teh arse....
OK, I went and looked. $125 is chump change for the amount of work it takes. I have built my last 914 rear caliper.
Posted by: sean_v8_914 May 12 2010, 02:43 PM
Im gonna go weld something now
Posted by: Eric_Shea May 12 2010, 02:55 PM
You send me all your calipers... I'll send you all my welding. I weld like a 3 year old on acid.
Posted by: sean_v8_914 May 17 2010, 10:52 AM
deal! i'de rather dodge slag for 2 hours than scub a single caliper. Is that you in Tahoe building calipers in teh photo?
Posted by: Eric_Shea May 17 2010, 11:31 AM
Is it a really handsome guy? Yes!
Posted by: woodgeek May 18 2010, 09:28 PM
Thanks for the tips guys. Had a great weekend working on the 914. Didn't get a lot done but I did post pics and started a blog. Check out my sig line if you're interested. Have a good one!
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