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Posted by: jimkelly Jun 21 2010, 02:17 PM

can early rotor and caliper be installed on late strut ??

i have this on the drivers side of my 1972 914 ??

jim


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Posted by: underthetire Jun 21 2010, 02:51 PM

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 21 2010, 01:17 PM)

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jun 21 2010, 03:09 PM

Essentially, no. And it's NOT the mounting bolt spacing. The offset is different for the caliper mounting ears, and they won't center on the disc. I have heard rumor that there "may" be an interim strut in production in late '72, but I've never seen one.

The Cap'n

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 21 2010, 03:24 PM

I tend to think they "might" but I've never tried it and, I've been told no.

The offset on the calipers is quite a bit different. That is made up on the rotor side. SO... I "THINK" if you move rotors and calipers you "MAY" be safe.

I've also heard of the interum strut but, never seen any proof either.

I have no more 914 struts laying around, early or late, so I cannot give a definative answer but, I'd like to see EARLY ROTORS and EARLY CALIPERS on a LATE STRUT to see what happens.

I could be very wrong... all signs point to that.

Posted by: jimkelly Jun 21 2010, 03:37 PM

instead of the unicorn strut theory - i am begining to think maybe eric is on to something - that very possibly - an early caliper and rotor can be fitted to a late strut.

before i order a set of early calipers from eric - i want to get one or both my struts replaced with a matching set of early struts - since i recently installed new rotors and bearings.

now i want to do ball joints and install rebuilt calipers as my braking is still sub-par.

i can squeal my tires under emergency braking at 60 mph but at 30 mph, if i just mildly hit the brake peddle, stoping power feels weak.

jim

Posted by: underthetire Jun 21 2010, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 21 2010, 02:37 PM)

Posted by: jimkelly Jun 22 2010, 05:38 AM

i replaced my rubber lines recently.

** if it is determined that a late strut will work with an early rotor/caliper combination, i will just need one late pass side strut.

jim

Posted by: type47 Jun 22 2010, 05:47 AM

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 22 2010, 03:38 AM)

Posted by: jimkelly Jun 22 2010, 08:20 AM

maybe under the shed in his back yard - aka: micro junk yard : )

but i am hoping for a definitive answer to this age old question : ))

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QUOTE(type47 @ Jun 22 2010, 04:47 AM)

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jun 22 2010, 03:38 AM)

... i will just need one late pass side strut.

aren't there some struts at Root's shop?

Posted by: Joe Ricard Jun 22 2010, 01:25 PM

Hmm, I just always swapped the whole thing.

But yes the only difference is 1/8" spacing difference caliper to rotor centering. I think it is add a washer going early caliper to late strut.

320I caliper to late strut is machine off 1/8"

So I might have this backwards.

Posted by: jimkelly Jun 23 2010, 07:01 AM

anyone have a definitve answer. seems joe might be about right as 1/8 inch is not so obvious to the eye. jim

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 23 2010, 05:17 PM

Back in the last thread that addressed this Rich Towle said he would check.

Get on it Rich!

Posted by: jimkelly Jun 24 2010, 06:43 AM

new vantage point..

based on this pic - if it is off by 1/8 inch - it is not correctable by using washers.


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Posted by: 914rat Jun 24 2010, 10:51 AM

Jim, I have some core struts of both type and I'm just across the bay in Md.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 24 2010, 01:41 PM

Offset on the calipers is much greater than 1/8th"

Posted by: r_towle Jun 26 2010, 08:34 AM

Late strut, early calipers/rotors WONT fit.
Early strut, toss it...it has the crappy ball joint anyways.

I never bothered to try later rotors/calipers on an early strut....I replaced the early strut and went the other way.

I will be in the shop today, Eric....tell me what measurements we need, I will take a look and see what I have left.

Rich