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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ HERE'S WHAT YOU MISSED!

Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:10 PM

confused24.gif No excuses for not making this get together. The weather was perfect. Here's is what you missed.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:11 PM

Another picture.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:11 PM

A different view. oops, that didn't work!

Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:14 PM

Here's what I meant to post.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:14 PM

Suspension detail.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:15 PM

Engine detail.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:16 PM

Interior shot.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:17 PM

Front trunk detail.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:17 PM

Interior of front trunk.

Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:18 PM

Crap, forget to attach again.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:19 PM

More interior detail.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:19 PM

More GT


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:22 PM

Motor from 914-G driver and 500hp motor for cobra in shop.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:23 PM

Here's the cobra


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:24 PM

Hudson Hornet race car


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:25 PM

just a ferrari


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:27 PM

Actually a few 914s were there. The Boxster is my driver.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:28 PM

Better view of the 914-6


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:29 PM

Later on these two 914s showed up. A 73 1.7 and another 914-6.


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:31 PM

Close up of the beautiful 914-6


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:32 PM

This 914-6 has a unique interior


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 03:33 PM

And no, I didn't take any pictures of the owners. Who cares what we look like. Any how, you guys missed a great day. Thanks to Mark Allin who had a great display of the history of his car and the 3 year restoration process. OK, who's planning the next event? laugh.gif

Posted by: krk Apr 10 2004, 06:41 PM

Wow! Thx for posting the pics!

The GT is way way way too clean. heh.

It would have been fun to dig around a big -- but the pics help cure that urge. Thx again for posting them!

kim.

Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:44 PM

More pictures


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:45 PM

front repop goodyear racing slick


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:45 PM

More GT

Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:46 PM

Damn, did it again


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:46 PM

More pics


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:47 PM

More goodies


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:48 PM

another - detail of chassis reinforcement


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:49 PM

more GT stuff - chassis reinforcement for racing stresses


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:50 PM

more GT


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:52 PM

wouldn't you want to own this car?


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:52 PM

unique door panels


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:53 PM

last one

Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:54 PM

one more - unique bracing for GT


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:55 PM

another view


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Posted by: william harris Apr 10 2004, 07:56 PM

that's all folks


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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 10 2004, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(william harris @ Apr 10 2004, 05:52 PM)
wouldn't you want to own this car?

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Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Apr 10 2004, 08:05 PM

Thanks for the pics!

Posted by: seanery Apr 10 2004, 08:08 PM

This is a great thread, I'm gonna move it to the main area.

Posted by: Rob Ways Apr 10 2004, 09:07 PM

That's an awesome GT rep. We all we could do that to our cars with our spare cash and spare time!! Thanks for sharing!!!

Posted by: Bleyseng Apr 10 2004, 09:33 PM

How does it shift? no shift rod that I can see.....

Cool pics especially since its ORANGE my favorite color on a 914.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2004, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Apr 10 2004, 08:33 PM)
Cool pics especially since its ORANGE my favorite color on a 914.

yes, and if you look close enough you can see that it used to be yellow. wink.gif

oops, did we forget to paint a spot? pictures don't lie ...

very! nice car tho!
smilie_pokal.gif Andy

Posted by: mskala Apr 10 2004, 09:50 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 10 2004, 10:40 PM)
yes, and if you look close enough you can see that it used to be yellow.

oops, did we forget to paint a spot? pictures don't lie ...

very! nice car tho!
smilie_pokal.gif Andy

This car used to be other colors (haven't all antique racers been).
But not bloody likely to have any yellow on it.

Here's what it looked like recently


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Posted by: vortrex Apr 10 2004, 09:57 PM

so who owns/built the GT? are they a member here? that's got to be one of the, if not the, best 914's I've ever seen.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Apr 10 2004, 09:58 PM

Obscene, decadent, and absolutely beautiful.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2004, 10:18 PM

QUOTE(mskala @ Apr 10 2004, 08:50 PM)
But not bloody likely to have any yellow on it.

well, you decide. cool.gif

it's either yellow paint OR rust, whichever is worse ...


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Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2004, 10:39 PM

btw. the shock towers should be painted black to get that authentic "GT/914-6" look ...

Andy


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Posted by: vortrex Apr 10 2004, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 10 2004, 08:39 PM)
btw. the shock towers should be painted black to get that authentic "GT/914-6" look ...

Andy

don't think so..


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Posted by: Matt Romanowski Apr 10 2004, 11:25 PM

Remember that this is not a reproduction, it's a real GT with history. The yellow (if it's there) is probably zinc chromate primer. That car is truly perfect.

Matt

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 10 2004, 11:29 PM

QUOTE(vortrex @ Apr 10 2004, 09:56 PM)

don't think so..

interestingly enough, looking through my stash of pictures, it looks like that the GT's that opted for the 100L tank don't seem to have the blacked out shock towers.
which makes sense cause they had to cut out that wall and weld in the support for the bracing.
guess they repainted that area afterwards without the black ...

idea.gif Andy

Posted by: Rich Bontempi Apr 10 2004, 11:41 PM

Hey William, thanks for the GT shots , it's always nice to see special 914's. By the way, what was that , yellow globe in the sky? In your part of the frozen tundra, we know you never see the sun. LOL

Posted by: thesey914 Apr 11 2004, 02:32 AM

QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Apr 10 2004, 07:33 PM)
How does it shift? no shift rod that I can see.....


It doesn't need to shift...is has no drive shafts fitted yet.
A-w-e-s-o-m-e 914. Thanks for sharing the pics.

Posted by: Racer Chris Apr 11 2004, 07:22 AM

That is .. so .. like .. my dream garage! wub.gif
Thanks for sharing William.

And I nominate Sir Andy for biggest A..hole after those picky comments!
He's spent way too much time around B. laugh.gif

Posted by: Bleyseng Apr 11 2004, 08:49 AM

heres another one with the big ass tank


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Posted by: Eddie Williams Apr 11 2004, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 10 2004, 11:29 PM)
QUOTE(vortrex @ Apr 10 2004, 09:56 PM)

don't think so..

interestingly enough, looking through my stash of pictures, it looks like that the GT's that opted for the 100L tank don't seem to have the blacked out shock towers.
which makes sense cause they had to cut out that wall and weld in the support for the bracing.
guess they repainted that area afterwards without the black ...

idea.gif Andy

And if you look real close you'll notice they didn't opt for the 100l tank, so maybe black shock towers are in order.

Just getting Andy's back!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Apr 11 2004, 11:39 AM

Looks great William !!. But.. all 914's look great when going back together from a rotisserie rebuild.. laugh.gif It will be ultra dirty the first time he spins it at a vintage event... laugh.gif

I started to say: everything looked correct... but I realized who's car it was that it was an orginal GT.

The only thing that stands out that I had NO info on was the stregthened top. I have never even seen one.


B

Posted by: thesey914 Apr 11 2004, 01:37 PM

Geoff, Dig the avatar -I'm glad to see another a beer afectionardo.....
All we drank in Tignes..( My friend Gee is not really that ugly in real life)


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Posted by: jonwatts Apr 11 2004, 06:29 PM

What color blue is this? Anyone with first hand knowledge please let me know.

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thx!

Posted by: djm914-6 Apr 11 2004, 06:38 PM

^ that's Mark Skala's car, I'd assume he know the color.

I totally forgot about this event has happening this weekend! I'm SO pissed that I missed it. I would love to have seen that Ferrari first hand.... no wait, I meant 914. wink.gif

That car is jut too nice. I'd be afraid to drive it. I guess there is something to be said for driving a rat.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Apr 11 2004, 06:40 PM

If that is a factory 914-6 with original color paint it is Adriatic blue, code 16. That pic doesn't do justice to the color. Saw one entered in the concours at PCA Parade in '02. It was beautiful.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 11 2004, 06:40 PM

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Apr 11 2004, 06:22 AM)
And I nominate Sir Andy for biggest A..hole after those picky comments!

hey, i really like that car!

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 11 2004, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(Eddie Williams @ Apr 11 2004, 10:15 AM)
Just getting Andy's back!

thank you Sir ... cool.gif

Posted by: jonwatts Apr 11 2004, 06:43 PM

QUOTE(jim9146 @ Apr 11 2004, 04:40 PM)
If that is a factory 914-6 with original color paint it is Adriatic blue, code 16.

That would be my guess, but your right, it doesn't look quite the same as I've seen in other pictures. Could just be the overcast day.

Posted by: mskala Apr 11 2004, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(jonwatts @ Apr 11 2004, 07:43 PM)
QUOTE(jim9146 @ Apr 11 2004, 04:40 PM)
If that is a factory 914-6 with original color paint it is Adriatic blue, code 16.

That would be my guess, but your right, it doesn't look quite the same as I've seen in other pictures. Could just be the overcast day.

There's a winter's worth of dust on it, it's 35 year old chippy stuff,
and also the right rear quarter panel is a bit darker because it
appears the PO fixed a dent a long time ago. But it is adriatic.

Posted by: jonwatts Apr 11 2004, 08:41 PM

Please don't make excuses, for original paint I think it's beautitious.

Posted by: william harris Apr 11 2004, 08:49 PM

I asked that very question of the owner - Adriatic Blue. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 7391420 Apr 12 2004, 11:54 AM

Pics look awesome, sorry I missed it,

I'm going to look into the Rensport idea and if it works out, I'll let everyone know and see if we have interest..

-Adam

Posted by: william harris Apr 12 2004, 03:01 PM

go Adam go laugh.gif

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Apr 12 2004, 03:43 PM

Ok wait, I have a question, I thought ALL GT's came with Welded tops...
a couple of the pics that are labeled *GT* do NOT look like it has a welded top, or
even a top on it.

For instance, this picture here...


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Posted by: vortrex Apr 12 2004, 03:50 PM

I don't know, I thought only the 916's had welded on tops? here is an original GT and it looks like the top is bolted on maybe??

http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jonlowe/colli56.jpg

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Apr 12 2004, 04:08 PM

Thanks Vortex, you're right, it IS the 916 and not the GT that has the welded on top.

my bad ohmy.gif

Posted by: william harris Apr 12 2004, 06:58 PM

Yes you are correct about the top being bolted on. I don't have a picture of it, but in Mark's photo album there were several close up shots of the tabs coming out from the windshield frame (in front) where the top bolted on. About a few of the prior comments, the car clearly was not finished when we saw it. Yes, the drive shafts and shift rod were not installed yet. In fact Mark continued to work on the car while we were there. This car was raced at Le Mans and the Nurburing (spelling?). Mark has pictures of the factory livery was raced in 1970 and that is how he has restored the car. The car did not have the 100 litre tank, etc. All in all, quite a piece of 914 history. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: vortrex Apr 12 2004, 07:00 PM

how did he come about this car?

Posted by: ein 6er Apr 12 2004, 07:03 PM

william, thanks for the fotos!!! that thing is beUUUUtiful!!!

what is the history of this gt? did i miss it some where? what is the vin?

i'm looking forward to seeing it at rr2!!

here are some shots of the top from brumos' gt #59.

Posted by: william harris Apr 12 2004, 07:03 PM

Mark purchased the car three years ago from a local porsche guy - Len Cummings - Len does business as Auto Sport Engineering. Apparantly he owned the car for sometime planning to restore it and never got around to it. So, as the saying goes, timing is everything. wink.gif

Posted by: ein 6er Apr 12 2004, 07:03 PM

top front

Posted by: seanery Apr 12 2004, 07:04 PM

I think I'd have a constant erection if I owned a car that ran at LeMans :dhead:

Posted by: ein 6er Apr 12 2004, 07:04 PM

top back

Posted by: ein 6er Apr 12 2004, 07:05 PM

#59

Posted by: ein 6er Apr 12 2004, 07:05 PM

front caliper

Posted by: william harris Apr 12 2004, 08:07 PM

Yeah, it's pretty exotic stuff. But Mark couldn't be more down to earth, he told me the restored car is too clean and need to have the patina of a couple of races under its belt to look right to him. Man, I would give anything to be at Rennsport to see this car run. Some club member should film this car and post to the site.

Posted by: vortrex Apr 12 2004, 08:53 PM

yes, someone definitely needs to film it! I had no idea that was a real GT, now it's even more amazing.

Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 12 2004, 10:39 PM

I really like that (looks like a bolt on) cage that the car being redone has. Any info on that cage...looks like the targa area is totally free, which makes it look cool. Thanks.

Posted by: TimMartin Apr 13 2004, 05:50 PM

Hey William,

what can you tell us about that backpad replacement? I've removed mine and i was going to have a custom interior/carpet place make a molded/contoured carpet replacement. That looks exactly (if not better) than what i was going to do. And is that an access panel to the crank pulley? That could be a good idea i suppose smile.gif

.tim

Posted by: RAR Apr 14 2004, 12:09 PM

We had a Hudson Hornet when I was a kid.

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Apr 14 2004, 12:27 PM

QUOTE(TimMartin @ Apr 13 2004, 03:50 PM)
Hey William,

what can you tell us about that backpad replacement? I've removed mine and i was going to have a custom interior/carpet place make a molded/contoured carpet replacement. That looks exactly (if not better) than what i was going to do. And is that an access panel to the crank pulley? That could be a good idea i suppose smile.gif

.tim

Tim, The GT's simply used perlon felt to replace the carpeting (except for the floors which were rubber mats). This included the firewall - just felt covered. The access panel is random - not on all GT cars.
Here is my removed backpad:


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Posted by: thesey914 Apr 14 2004, 02:47 PM

Scott, I'm curious what you did just where the felt meets the rear glass? I reckon this will be quite hard to make good. Do you have any detailed pics?

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Apr 14 2004, 03:28 PM

Hiya!
I laid down a strip of black vinyl on the bottom edge of the glass (like the stuff they use to put graphics on cars). When I glued the carpet, I actually glued the top edge to this piece of vinyl. I cut the top edge of the carpet about 1/8" of an inch below the edge of the vinyl. It adheared great compared to the glass, and looks very finished - even though technically there is an exposed edge on the perlon.

The perlon is great to work with, no freying = no binding and with heat and water you can stretch/form it around most everything. Makes sense why the factory used it.

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