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Posted by: ELLIOTT Sep 8 2010, 07:26 PM

Hi all, is their any reason why I should not use copper for the fuel lines through the tunnel? I will be relocating the fuel pump up front also.

Posted by: ELLIOTT Sep 8 2010, 08:08 PM

I for some reason did not do a search for " copper fuel lines" before posting. But now I have and have found some information on the subject. thanks to all that has pondered on my question.
thanks again

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 8 2010, 09:51 PM

OK who the hell is this ELLIOTT guy and does he know he spells his name wrong? confused24.gif lol-2.gif
Cheers, Elliot (one "T") laugh.gif

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Sep 8 2010, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 8 2010, 08:51 PM) *

OK who the hell is this ELLIOTT guy and does he know he spells his name wrong? confused24.gif lol-2.gif
Cheers, Elliot (one "T") laugh.gif


"One 'T'" as in "idiot".

Hi, Elliot! The Cap'n, who couldn't help hisownself ..............

Posted by: Krieger Sep 8 2010, 10:25 PM

Maybe Elliot, last name starts with T?

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Sep 9 2010, 08:12 AM

The original lines are well protected and last the life of the car unless you have burned them from floor pan or clutch tube replacement.
If you have to replace them the biggest reason not to use the copper lines is that Racer Chris at Tangerine Racing makes SUPERB stainless lines bent in the original configuration for easy installation and longevity.


QUOTE(ELLIOTT @ Sep 8 2010, 06:26 PM) *

Hi all, is their any reason why I should not use copper for the fuel lines through the tunnel? I will be relocating the fuel pump up front also.


Posted by: Bartlett 914 Sep 9 2010, 09:41 AM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Sep 9 2010, 09:12 AM) *

The original lines are well protected and last the life of the car unless you have burned them from floor pan or clutch tube replacement.
If you have to replace them the biggest reason not to use the copper lines is that Racer Chris at Tangerine Racing makes SUPERB stainless lines bent in the original configuration for easy installation and longevity.


QUOTE(ELLIOTT @ Sep 8 2010, 06:26 PM) *

Hi all, is their any reason why I should not use copper for the fuel lines through the tunnel? I will be relocating the fuel pump up front also.



I will second that. I have installed 2 sets. They go in nice and SS is not going to corrode. Price is reasonable and you will have no doubts as to it's longevity.

Posted by: RobW Sep 9 2010, 10:14 AM

+3 - what is piece of mind worth?

Posted by: kg6dxn Sep 9 2010, 10:17 AM

Tha actual reason not to use copper is the maliability of copper will weaken the tube from vibration and cause catistrophic failure. You will not find anyone in the racing industry using copper fuel lines. You will however find aluminum. Aluminum works great and will not break from vibration. Stainless steel are nice too!

I run Aluminum with AN fittings everywhere. Supply and return.

Posted by: 76-914 Sep 9 2010, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Sep 9 2010, 09:17 AM) *

Tha actual reason not to use copper is the maliability of copper will weaken the tube from vibration and cause catistrophic failure. You will not find anyone in the racing industry using copper fuel lines. You will however find aluminum. Aluminum works great and will not break from vibration. Stainless steel are nice too!

I run Aluminum with AN fittings everywhere. Supply and return.

I want to add to Mikes comment as he is mostly correct. Dead soft aluminum is OK in the vibration dept, however I used T-2021 alumininum (hard) on my plane and found both lines were cracking on the first annual inspection. It was very evident after magnafluxing the tubes. Actually it scared the shit out of me. I replaced them w/ dead soft alum and flew it for the next 10 yr's w/o any signs of fatigue

Posted by: ELLIOTT Sep 9 2010, 12:45 PM

thanks for all the laughs and responses

Posted by: ELLIOTT Sep 9 2010, 01:00 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 8 2010, 10:51 PM) *

OK who the hell is this ELLIOTT guy and does he know he spells his name wrong? confused24.gif lol-2.gif
Cheers, Elliot (one "T") laugh.gif

lol-2.gif and I was thinking the samething about yours only having one T. lol-2.gif

Darn if I would have known about this one T thing fifteen years ago I would have asked my grandparents, ..........since i'm a junior dad cant help. I always figured the one T was for last names rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 9 2010, 03:55 PM

QUOTE(ELLIOTT @ Sep 9 2010, 12:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 8 2010, 10:51 PM) *

OK who the hell is this ELLIOTT guy and does he know he spells his name wrong? confused24.gif lol-2.gif
Cheers, Elliot (one "T") laugh.gif

lol-2.gif and I was thinking the samething about yours only having one T. lol-2.gif

Darn if I would have known about this one T thing fifteen years ago I would have asked my grandparents, ..........since i'm a junior dad cant help. I always figured the one T was for last names rolleyes.gif


Funny thing is, I spelled my name with two T's all my life till I went into the Air Force when I was 19 years old. I had to show my birth certificate and when seeing it for the first time it showed my name only had one T. I had been spelling my name wrong all that time. sad.gif Now my VA records show I have an alias, also known as Elliot with two T's. laugh.gif

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