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Posted by: TomR Sep 16 2010, 05:48 PM
Proud new owner of a '73 914. Car only came with one ignition key. Have had trouble finding anyone who will make a copy. Can get blanks on ebay, but they don't do me much good if nobody can copy it. Haven't tried a porsche dealer yet, but I'm thinking they would be pretty pricey & not sure how much vintage stuff they handle. Any help would be great.
Thx
Posted by: Joe Owensby Sep 16 2010, 06:50 PM
If it is for a 914, just take the new blank along with your current key to a place that cuts keys. No problem getting a copy. JoeO
Posted by: underthetire Sep 16 2010, 06:51 PM
I know the old school VW shop here has the blanks and makes them, have you tried a aircooled VW shop.
Posted by: SLITS Sep 16 2010, 08:30 PM
I have a cutting machine and cut them all the time. Unfortunately, I am on the other side of Amerika ....
Anybody with a machine can cut them, but the blanks are STUPIDLY expensive.
Fark Porsche!
Posted by: benalishhero Sep 16 2010, 08:50 PM
Check with a local dealer first. Mine had blanks. Reasonable price too.
Posted by: kg6dxn Sep 16 2010, 08:56 PM
You need to find a real locksmith! Not Home Depot or a hardware store. It will be no problem. Just buy blanks.
Posted by: Tom_T Sep 17 2010, 09:19 AM
You need to find a real locksmith! Not Home Depot or a hardware store. It will be no problem. Just buy blanks.
... my local locksmith does them, as well as for my other 3 old cars.BTW - they sell both aftermarket non-branded plastic handled keys (no "PORSCHE" on it) & the OEM Porsche style (same as for 911/912/930 of that era) at AA, PP, Pelican, etc. I don't like the metal handled generic VW/Porsche blanks cuz you can't tell the valet (red) key from the full function (black) one.
IMHO, the $5+/- each for repro blanks (red or black) or $15+/- each for genuine Porsche key blanks (red or black - IMHO it's worth the real look) is worth it to me, compared to the $1000's I've sunk & more to sink into my 914!
Posted by: type47 Sep 17 2010, 10:07 AM
I've got a good plan for your early enthusiasm: Go to the Hershey swap meet put on by the Cenn Penn (I think) region of PCA around the end of April every year. There is a fellow there who cuts keys for about $12 for repro red and black keys.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Sep 17 2010, 10:23 AM
It's important that a good master be made. On an old car, that means making a key from the number on the lock. The best place to get that number is from the ignition switch or the trunk lock under the dash. If you don't have a number, then have the locksmith "read" the trunk lock. It's gonna be the least used lock in the car. Once you have a master key, make all duplicates from that, and put it away where you won't use, or lose, it. If your locks don't match, have them rekeyed so they do. Mark Britell does this, and any good locksmith can, too. There's a Porsche key guy in Philadelphia, and he's probably the best there is. I don't remember his name, but I'm sure I could find it if I have to. Scratch that, here's a link. Ain't Google wunnerful?
http://www.lockandkeyid.com/
The Cap'n
Posted by: underthetire Sep 17 2010, 10:32 AM
Don't know if it's correct, but the key that I have for my ignition is a ilco VW71, a poorkey? 946 for glove box/trunk, and door is a SilcaPW1. Obviously I don't have original keys.
Posted by: jeffdon Sep 17 2010, 10:37 AM
I only have the valet key for mine. Is it true that dif. between valet and regular keys is not in the cut, but in a groove in the blank? In other words, can you make a new regular key from a valet?
Posted by: underthetire Sep 17 2010, 10:40 AM
I only have the valet key for mine. Is it true that dif. between valet and regular keys is not in the cut, but in a groove in the blank? In other words, can you make a new regular key from a valet?
Looking at my keys, it is in the cut. But I can not attest to what my car went through with PO's.
Posted by: bandjoey Sep 17 2010, 10:47 AM
The key code should be in the back of the manual if U have it. Any true locksmith can code cut an original
Posted by: Drums66 Sep 17 2010, 11:16 AM
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Posted by: markb Sep 17 2010, 01:28 PM
I only have the valet key for mine. Is it true that dif. between valet and regular keys is not in the cut, but in a groove in the blank? In other words, can you make a new regular key from a valet?
Yes.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Sep 17 2010, 04:15 PM
The key code should be in the back of the manual if U have it. Any true locksmith can code cut an original
I've never seen a key code printed, stamped, or otherwise written in an owners manual. The whole idea is to keep it a secret, and having it in a manual in the car kinda negates the whole plan. They were on a card attached to the keys, IIRC.
The Cap'n
Posted by: PH1 Sep 17 2010, 10:52 PM
It's important that a good master be made. On an old car, that means making a key from the number on the lock. The best place to get that number is from the ignition switch or the trunk lock under the dash. If you don't have a number, then have the locksmith "read" the trunk lock. It's gonna be the least used lock in the car. Once you have a master key, make all duplicates from that, and put it away where you won't use, or lose, it. If your locks don't match, have them rekeyed so they do. Mark Britell does this, and any good locksmith can, too. There's a Porsche key guy in Philadelphia, and he's probably the best there is. I don't remember his name, but I'm sure I could find it if I have to. Scratch that, here's a link. Ain't Google wunnerful?
http://www.lockandkeyid.com/
The Cap'n
This is very good information as usual Cap'n. Thanks!
Kelvin
Posted by: Drums66 Sep 18 2010, 11:34 AM
The key code should be in the back of the manual if U have it. Any true locksmith can code cut an original
I've never seen a key code printed, stamped, or otherwise written in an owners manual. The whole idea is to keep it a secret, and having it in a manual in the car kinda negates the whole plan. They were on a card attached to the keys, IIRC.
The Cap'n
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