Printable Version of Topic

Posted by: 914Sixer Sep 18 2010, 07:09 PM

I bought a z-green 74 and am in the process of sorting it out to run. I am replacing everything that is missing and not correct. I started sorting out the fuel injection and found the fuel pump moved to the front of the car with a piece of zip cord run through the tunnel from the rear to power the pump. All of this was mounted on the front suspension pan cover.

Wonder why this door rotted out? It is completely covered with 1/2 " carpet pad. Every surface had pad glued down including the bottom of the door where the drain holes were. Both door were done like this. Back wall had same carpet pad behind the molded wall.


Attached image(s)

Posted by: PanelBilly Sep 18 2010, 07:40 PM

I think the saddest part is that the DAPO thought he was improving the car

Posted by: dlee6204 Sep 18 2010, 08:57 PM

Oh my...

Posted by: 70_914 Sep 18 2010, 10:20 PM

20 years from now there will be a thread showing pictures of rusty 914's with dynamat all over them and the comments will be the same...

Just sayin'...

Posted by: bembry Sep 19 2010, 03:07 AM

Well, if the comments fit. . . .

Posted by: carr914 Sep 19 2010, 04:28 AM

I don't agree. That carpet foam was just a sponge that held water and Mark said the drain holes were plugged. Dynamat doesn't hold any water. Also I think that any 914 that is being restored today will most likely be stored in a garage vs outside in the elements for the last 40 years.

Posted by: CptTripps Dec 17 2013, 10:44 AM

I know I'm digging up an old thread...but this seemed like the most appropriate place to show these gems off.

"I don't have a half-inch bolt....lets use a four-inch bolt with an assortment of washers."
(I didn't think this bolt would ever end.)


"I'm not sure what this is. Just wrap it in duct-tape, copper pipe insulation, and some zip-ties."
(Used as a hood release.)


"Hmm....a cork. Yeah...that's the ticket!"
(I love that there are two washers on either side of this...)

Posted by: Mblizzard Dec 17 2013, 10:52 AM

Beaded lamp pull chain must meet all of the structural requirements for use as a throttle cable! Right?????

Posted by: monkeyboy Dec 17 2013, 10:58 AM

I wonder how many of us have a background in VW ownership... When I was buying and selling bugs, all that stuff was par for the course. You expected to see something hacked up.

Posted by: Steve Snyder Dec 17 2013, 01:11 PM

Stuff like that was our definition of "Fahrvergnugen."

Posted by: monkeyboy Dec 17 2013, 04:39 PM

exactly.

Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 17 2013, 06:15 PM

facet fuel pump mounted on the pass side engine tin inside the engine compartment and plumbed with cloth (deteriorated) covered fuel line.

Posted by: CptTripps Dec 18 2013, 07:13 AM

From the "Department of Redundancy Department"
Same number of tap-screws on both sides. I guess they had the screws. Why not use them all?


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: Chris H. Dec 18 2013, 07:34 AM

Wow...those need to go in the "bad parts museum". The cork piece is a work of art! And the original one? The carpet in the door? That door had to weigh a TON when it rained. Although the lamp chain....

Wish I still had pics of my '73 2.0 parts car from waaay back. The sail panels were repaired with black tar and then roofing material over the top (tar paper I think...). It wasn't a BAD job...didn't realize it until I took the near-perfect trim pieces off....

Posted by: mikesmith Dec 18 2013, 10:43 AM

That looks like Renegade's work; everything I touch is slammed into the body with tek screws (or fat-head rivets). Even their cable shifter is just tek'ed to the centre tunnel.

Posted by: ripper911 Dec 18 2013, 02:29 PM

I wish I would have gotten a picture of my 911's seatbelt receivers while they were still in the car, some DAPO attached them to the car with bondo.

Posted by: smj Dec 18 2013, 02:52 PM

That sounds like the work of a Darwin Award candidate... Just how much Bondo was there?

Posted by: 914Sixer Dec 18 2013, 05:36 PM

It is good to see the handy work of FORMER rocket scientists in action.

Posted by: CptTripps Jan 17 2014, 04:34 AM

Here's another good one.

Looks like 3 attempts at getting the spoiler in the right place...and then a tube of silicone was used without ever touching the fiberglass. Kinda like a "reverse moat" around the holes.


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: carr914 Jan 17 2014, 07:05 AM

Posted by: 914itis Jan 17 2014, 07:53 AM

The silicone is there to keep water out of the trunk. Ask me how I know?.......

Posted by: topatrout914 Jan 17 2014, 09:08 AM

I can't imagine why some DAPO would do this to a shock.



Just the thought of welding on an oil filled pressure vessel???

Posted by: Mblizzard Jan 17 2014, 09:53 AM

I think it is of greater concern to find out what other things a person that would weld a shock might have done to the car. You can at least see this!

Posted by: toolguy Jan 17 2014, 10:20 AM

I'd imagine that was their way of lowering the back of the car. .

Posted by: euro911 Jan 26 2014, 10:43 PM

I found out why the 'BB's left headlight didn't stay put very well. This must have happened way out in the boonies, or before the magical world of internet shopping and 914 forums




This was in the mid section of 'BB' - attached with 26 rivets, for the tail-shift transmission's shift rod ... mind you, the 'BB' is a 1975




Here's what I found when I removed it




No pix, but it also had late rubber mounts on the engine brackets PLUS early rubber mounts on the outboard ends of the mounting bar


... and the battery tray. Not shown is the bungee cord that held the battery in place



Oh, and the foil tape hell hole patch

All of this has been corrected

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 26 2014, 10:46 PM

More likely to raise it because of the sagging rear springs, nose up attitude..

Posted by: OU8AVW Jan 27 2014, 05:39 AM

Flairs?

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 27 2014, 12:34 PM

Posted by: euro911 Jan 27 2014, 01:14 PM

Posted by: flipb Jan 27 2014, 01:17 PM

That's egregious.

Real Creamsicle sans tits, or faux creamsicle?

Posted by: CptTripps Jan 27 2014, 02:04 PM

Real. COA and everything. It's on eBay right now.

Posted by: Java2570 Jan 27 2014, 07:00 PM

I saw that one last night and was cracking up!!

Posted by: Garold Shaffer Jan 27 2014, 08:40 PM

The 1972 parts car I just cut up. I bought the car from the original owner. He purchased two Porsche badges and then mounted them in the sail panels. I have the paper to prove it. The were held in by wall anchors.

Posted by: gms Jan 27 2014, 10:13 PM

here is how you fix a broken suspension mount

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Jan 27 2014, 10:35 PM

Or play Russian Roulette?

Posted by: Mike Bellis Jan 27 2014, 10:37 PM

OK, I'll post this. PO used this custom bolt setup to attache the rear fiberglass bumper.

Why not just weld the first bolt to the bracket?

Posted by: Old Yella Jan 27 2014, 10:54 PM

Are they orange bar badges?

Posted by: McMark Jan 28 2014, 12:44 AM

I love this thread.

Posted by: Bartlett 914 Jan 28 2014, 07:56 AM

Hey Glenn. Isn't that the car that had an NOS floor pan installed but was never painted and rusted?

Posted by: OU8AVW Jan 28 2014, 08:33 AM

I'll have allot more but I'm not done putting the car back together....and I haven't sold it yet

Posted by: CptTripps Jan 28 2014, 11:09 AM

I'm trying to think of a way to attach those WITHOUT using wall anchors...and can't think of a way.

That suspension mount is just plain awesome.

Posted by: Chris H. Jan 28 2014, 03:13 PM

Look how weak the mounting point is on the body for that hinge apparatus...how is that even still attached?

Posted by: worn Jan 28 2014, 03:33 PM

I agree with the second but not with the first. Dynamat will hold water against the metal for sure. Same way the tar did that was originally installed. Wherever there isn't adhesion the water will eventually find it, and once there will like it because there will be no air currents to carry it away. I have used it though.
Somewhere someone had a comment about a sort of heavy silicone floor pad that you didn't really bond down so it could be lifted out for drying. I like the idea but haven't seen the product.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 28 2014, 08:35 PM

But in 20 Years, most 914s will still be in the Garage on Jackstands! Tough for water to get in there!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 29 2014, 03:33 PM

So... when you add extra padding to your door panels, you can't get the door to latch past the first latch catch.

When you can't get the latch to latch past the first latch catch you add enough Bondo to the quarter panel to match the current position of the door...

Don't add padding to your door panels.

Posted by: bulitt Jan 29 2014, 03:40 PM

Yoga Mat from Target, 10$

Posted by: bulitt Jan 29 2014, 04:40 PM

Pedal cluster floor. layers of riveted metal, bndo, slicone, rust.

Posted by: CptTripps Feb 2 2014, 06:23 PM

Not exactly DUMB stuff...but I found some cool stuff.

Picked both of these from underneath the driver-side headlight bucket.

First: Birth control pill holder.

Then: A Styx tape.

Yeah...I'm a lucky SOB.


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: vw505 Feb 2 2014, 10:50 PM

Sweet.

Posted by: topatrout914 Feb 3 2014, 07:04 AM

There is a serial riveter in the 914 World and they must be stopped!! My car also had several riveted patch panels with nasty tar based undercoating everywhere.

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Feb 3 2014, 09:35 AM

Someone took the time to braze, rivet and glue in galvanized patches on my car. Which I never understood, because it would likely have taken the same amount of time for them to just weld it in correctly. It took me quite a few hours to grind out all of the brazing.


Attached image(s)

Posted by: worn Feb 3 2014, 10:19 AM

A lot of people cannot gas weld sheet. I know I have to work really hard to get it right. So they braze. If it isn't stressed and looks good I am not so unhappy. Most cars of this era have braze points from the factory for set up.

Ever MIG into a piece of lead work that you didn't notice wasn't steel? Blue flames.

Posted by: Garold Shaffer Feb 5 2014, 09:04 PM

Typical floor repair. Tin panel riveted in with fiberglass overlay and door hinge mounted on gas pedal.

Also what do you do when the plastic slider in your door handle is broken???? yep use a small ty-wrap to keep the "good half" in place. Still doesn't work, but what the heck.

Posted by: 76-914 Feb 6 2014, 08:58 AM

No, but I've had the reverse happen. I was gas welding a crack up on my Ghia's driver door during resto when the area 4" above began to liquify. Factory lead lay up.

Posted by: Chris H. Feb 6 2014, 09:45 AM

That is BRUTAL George. The STYX tape evened things out though....

Posted by: 914werke Jun 9 2021, 09:48 AM

I encountered one yesterday, car came in for F. end service. Didnt get a pic but it was a mess.
SOMEONE decided that it would be great idea if they install Zerke grease fittings smack in the middle of the A-arm tubes...stock bushings, they just FILLED the arms entirely with grease !! Presumedly was to stop the T-bar grinding noise from the sacked rear bushes.

Posted by: windforfun Jun 9 2021, 12:32 PM

Posted by: pt_700 Jun 10 2021, 02:46 PM

not my p.o., found on craigslist. apologies if this is anyone here but then again, what the heck!?



here's the ad;

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/d/san-jose-1974-porsche-914/7334347214.html

Posted by: rjames Jun 10 2021, 03:11 PM

"Won't take much to make this car perfect. "
I guess we all have our own definitions of what perfect is.

Posted by: pt_700 Jun 10 2021, 04:44 PM

let's have some more fun with this one!

i really like a woman who'll happily pose for a glam pic with such a car!

Posted by: windforfun Jun 10 2021, 06:36 PM

Go San Jose!!! I used to live in Santa Clara.

Posted by: AZBanks Jun 10 2021, 09:18 PM

At some point I am going to have to do something about my trunk hinge plates.

Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 11 2021, 04:57 PM

I was encouraged to add this picture here.

Enjoy

Jeff

Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 11 2021, 04:58 PM

Same car different location of previous work.

Jeff

Posted by: ejm Jun 12 2021, 06:27 PM

Spent some time today helping a fairly new owner sort out some issues. Removed front and rear hard wired radar detectors and a satellite radio system with Bluetooth leaving just the am/fm/cd head installed to fill the hole in the dash. Pulled out 6 feet of antenna cable and other wiring that was wrapped around the steering column by the upper flex joint and other remnants from an ?alarm system?. In the engine compartment were two pull knob choke cables hooked to the heater boxes even though the stock cable were still there and working. But the best DAPO WTF was the 50+ pound steel ring bolted to the floor of the trunk to center the spare tire. Next thing to sort out is fuel pump toggle switch hanging under the dash and slop in the shifter.

Posted by: bkrantz Jun 12 2021, 08:04 PM

Ballast?

Posted by: Front yard mechanic Jun 12 2021, 08:50 PM

4cents a pound at the scrap yard you just scored 2 bucks

Posted by: euro911 Jun 25 2021, 10:45 AM

Back in the 60s, one of my brother's friends had a Corvair. He wanted to lower the front end, so they snatched a manhole cover from somewhere and tossed it in the frunk

Apparently, these days, some people are stealing them for scrap value - not for lowering their cars

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/nyregion/thieves-take-con-eds-manhole-covers.html

Posted by: 914werke Jun 25 2021, 12:41 PM

Why you ask... you got me!

Posted by: 914werke Jun 25 2021, 12:44 PM

Ive got a lot more from this poor car.



Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: 930cabman Jun 25 2021, 01:44 PM

+100% at least.

Thanks moderator for bringing this in view. Good for a few laughs and maybe even learn a thing or two.

Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 25 2021, 04:00 PM

Rich, that white 914 has some bizarre stuff going on!

Posted by: 914werke Jun 25 2021, 06:48 PM

Thats just the tip of the iceburg


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jun 25 2021, 09:00 PM

When I see the stuff done to these cars, I’m not sure if it is a testament to how desperately folks want to keep them on the road, or just how many people have no clue about what they are doing.

Posted by: 930cabman Jun 26 2021, 08:07 AM

Some of this stuff is just plain scary. I guess a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing holds true.

Think: Rube Goldberg

Posted by: Jett Jun 26 2021, 09:39 AM

Do you think it squeaks?

Posted by: Jett Jun 26 2021, 09:40 AM

I bet if we look under the car that the two black plastic wind flaps have been taken off.

Posted by: Jett Jun 26 2021, 09:42 AM

I like the custom PORSCHE layout!

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Jun 26 2021, 09:50 AM

Reminds of the only rear engine 914…where is that photo?

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 26 2021, 12:10 PM

Attached image(s)

Posted by: 930cabman Jun 26 2021, 05:33 PM

American ingenuity? or maybe I have a great type 1 motor laying around and a cutting torch

Posted by: bkrantz Jun 26 2021, 08:02 PM

I vote for clueless.

Posted by: get off my lawn Jun 30 2021, 12:14 AM

Another possible explanation is that not all that long ago, around here these cars were darn near worthless if they had rust or were in rough shape.
In good condition you could pick one up for under 3 grand, if it didn't run or was rusted out you might have to pay the junkyard $50 to tow it away.

If you look at it through the lens of today, it seems hideous to hack on of these very expensive, very sought after collector cars.
But if you Look at it through the lens of 25 or 30 years ago, it would make sense to cobble a beat up old 914 just to keep it running than to let it go to the scrap yard. And a LOT more reasonable than spending a lot of money on it to fix it up.

Spending a great deal of time and MONEY to go concours-weenie on a beat up 914 when it was cheaper and easier to find a decent one made almost no sense at all.
Plus, these cars tended to attract a demographic that was either financially challenged, or were simply very frugal. Probably because you could pick up one so cheaply at the time.
Not many people would spend $10k to restore a 914-4 that would be worth $5k unless the car was something very special.
I remember when a really nice example of an original 914-6 could be bought for under 20 grand.

Although most 914 enthusiasts were into fixing them up and making then right, lots of folks out there were just interested in getting that ole VW out back running again without spending any money on it.
Or maybe they bought a rough one for not much $$$$, and then realized just how much of a money pit it was to fix up so they found the cheapest way to get it running they could.

I remember going to a sawzall a party where they cut up a rust free 914 because the quarter panel had a dent in it.
Or at a D&G event when we were asked to bring our sawzalls and help ourselves to parts of a collection of shells that were destined to be scrapped.
I scrounged over maybe a dozen 914s in junk yards over the years, and about the only things I can remember snagging was a driver's door mirror, a front bumper, and a transaxle.
The rest just wasn't worth bothering with.

Posted by: volksaddict Jul 11 2021, 06:03 AM

PO left me a couple spare Berus Note the masking tape on the installed plugs, guess He didn't have a spark plug socket.
Glad I decided to do the top end!

Posted by: volksaddict Jul 11 2021, 06:07 AM

Liked his rtv blue too

Posted by: 914werke Jul 11 2021, 08:38 AM

Bad mtr mnts? why replace them when youve got a welder & some metal scrap ....


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: 930cabman Jul 11 2021, 11:08 AM

If you are down, just page through this thread, should bring a good laugh, if not something is wrong

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jul 11 2021, 05:16 PM

Oil cooler

I still find it hard to believe that folks out there find these cars and then just expect to fire them up and go drive without severe consequences.

Good call to teardown and know what you’re dealing with!

Posted by: volksaddict Jul 11 2021, 07:36 PM

Oh yeah the oil cooler Wondering if someone would notice

Posted by: 914werke Sep 17 2021, 02:21 PM

So heres one I see all sorts of variations of: Fuel Pump circuit not working?
Why bother to figure out what the cause is when you can simply add some wires & bypass the whole thing?!?
Fuses...We don't need no Steenking FUSES!!


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Sep 17 2021, 08:40 PM

"Welds". Poor customer actually paid for that work.
I removed the battery tray with a screwdriver and putty knife.
These came off with vice grips and a twist.

It didn't take long to un"weld" everything, and the battery tray was virtually unblemished

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 17 2021, 08:45 PM

Posted by: cassmcentee Sep 18 2021, 05:44 AM

This thread has ruined it
Next time I pass a 914 on the freeway I'm taking the furthest lane away!
I used to pull up along-side with the "Thumbs Up"