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Posted by: mepstein Nov 5 2010, 02:42 PM
This car was bought new by a local doctor in '75 and driven to work about 80K. Ran up until it was brought in for a clutch and repair was never done. Car has sat for the last 4 years. Service station is only a couple miles from my house but the car was parked around back and I never saw it until today. I GPS'ed the owners address and he was another 3 miles down the road. Went over to his house and asked about the car. It was supposed to be sold for 1K but deal fell through. I made cash offer, he took it and signed over title. Now just have to figure out how to get a non running car up a steep unpaved hill to my workshop. Then decide if it is worth restoring or parting. PS- I will not be the one restoring so it will probably be in the classifieds soon. Car seems solid but there is obviously rust in all the normal spots. Also looks to be all origional with the fuel injection still on the engine.
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Posted by: RFoulds Nov 5 2010, 02:45 PM
WOW! lots of good stuff on it still. Get pics of the hell hole and inside trunks please!
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Posted by: RFoulds Nov 5 2010, 02:54 PM
Well, you gotta pull the trunk mats and carpet outa the way...
German Pile carpet don't rust, but the paper thin sheetmetal underneath...
Posted by: Ferg Nov 5 2010, 02:58 PM
Nice pickup!
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Posted by: mepstein Nov 5 2010, 03:00 PM
Well, you gotta pull the trunk mats and carpet outa the way...
German Pile carpet don't rust, but the paper thin sheetmetal underneath...
There was a puddle of smelly water under the carpet.
Posted by: mepstein Nov 5 2010, 03:03 PM
WOW! lots of good stuff on it still. Get pics of the hell hole and inside trunks please!
Too much engine stuff in the way of the hell hole to see condition.
Posted by: RFoulds Nov 5 2010, 03:05 PM
Haa! Been there. Get some big bath towels, mop it up before you move the car.
Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 5 2010, 04:47 PM
Weird, I've noticed a few local ones around here lately as well. One at a VOA lot for $999 (must be a total rusty bucket), another yellow one at a towing yard in Clearview, another yellow one under some old 18-wheeler box trailer and I think another one we noted somewhere else.
Probably all parts cars.
Posted by: johannes Nov 5 2010, 04:56 PM
Nice rims ! ... and red plaid seats !!! are those in nice shape ?
Posted by: mepstein Nov 5 2010, 05:24 PM
Nice rims ! ... and red plaid seats !!! are those in nice shape ?
I will pull off the seat covers and check out the car some more this week end. I only spent 2 minutes looking at the car before I went to sellers house to buy it.
Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 5 2010, 10:48 PM
Weird, I've noticed a few local ones around here lately as well. One at a VOA lot for $999 (must be a total rusty bucket), another yellow one at a towing yard in Clearview, another yellow one under some old 18-wheeler box trailer and I think another one we noted somewhere else.
Probably all parts cars.
I went by VOA to look at that one today. Already sold and the new owner apparently has it running. No idea about rust but apparently it had no exhaust system.
Posted by: arkitect Nov 6 2010, 07:23 AM
Nice find, at least it looks like it's all there.
Dave
Posted by: NC_Colfax Nov 6 2010, 08:59 PM
Nice rims ! ... and red plaid seats !!! are those in nice shape ?
I am also I fan of the seats
Posted by: carr914 Nov 7 2010, 06:32 AM
Plaid is the new Fad 
Posted by: SUNAB914 Nov 7 2010, 09:06 AM
SWEET FIND!
Posted by: mepstein Nov 7 2010, 09:30 AM
Now the question is what to do next?
Posted by: swl Nov 7 2010, 10:22 AM
Now the question is what to do next?
duhhh!
Put it up on jackstands and spend the next 5 years and $10K restoring her to glory! What else?
Posted by: mepstein Nov 7 2010, 11:29 AM
LOL. I already have a money sucking project going on at Scotty B's. Parting the car would make some money but I sort of hate the idea of tearing apart an 80K, 1 owner car. I will take pics of hell hole and longs and decide from there.
Posted by: swl Nov 7 2010, 12:06 PM
being in range of Scotty B is dangerous to your wallet. His work is just way too nice to resist.
Posted by: ghuff Nov 8 2010, 10:24 AM
Scotty does awesome work at reasonable prices. Best kept secret of 914world for sure.
If I knew my car was going to be this bad I would have started with a rustier car. Oh well.
Posted by: okieflyr Nov 8 2010, 10:36 AM
Well, you gotta pull the trunk mats and carpet outa the way...
German Pile carpet don't rust, but the paper thin sheetmetal underneath...
There was a puddle of smelly water under the carpet.
Well if it is holding water then the pans are still in good shape!
Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2010, 02:10 PM
passenger long
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driver long
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driver sail panel
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trunk
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behind driver seat
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Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2010, 02:15 PM
hell hole
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Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2010, 02:16 PM
seats
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80K speedo
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interior
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Posted by: johannes Nov 8 2010, 02:22 PM
You may find a lot of rust when looking at the longs, but this car looks worth to save !!!
Posted by: BigDBass Nov 8 2010, 02:22 PM
Man do I love those seats!
Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2010, 02:34 PM
You may find a lot of rust when looking at the longs, but this car looks worth to save !!!
I poked hard with a screwdriver at the longs and the hell hole and the only part i could poke through was the driver side jack plate. Didn't look under the car since the tires had sunk in the mud but everything looked pretty good and a lot better than I expected. I pulled some tar off the floor pan behind the driver seat and it was mostly clean metal except for some surface rust in the channels. Too bad this car was left out over the last 4 years. I imagine it was really nice at one time.
Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2010, 08:57 PM
Scotty B is getting the wheels so if I keep it, I will use the 2.0 liter Fuchs from my old car. Wonder if the spare is a Pedrini ? - forgot to check.
Posted by: ELLIOTT Nov 8 2010, 10:21 PM
those seats are cool looking
Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 8 2010, 10:51 PM
Those Pedrini's are worth close to a grand a piece. Don't let him rip you off like that... that kinda loot could go for a lot of metal work! 
Posted by: johannes Nov 9 2010, 02:05 AM
Those Pedrini's are worth close to a grand a piece.
Posted by: mepstein Nov 9 2010, 05:14 AM
Those Pedrini's are worth close to a grand a piece. Don't let him rip you off like that... that kinda loot could go for a lot of metal work!
They are the super rare limited "S" edition.
So your saying that Scott should be paying me to work on my car?
Posted by: johannes Nov 9 2010, 06:15 AM
Those are not Pedrini but Mahle. I bought a SET OF FOUR for less than 500 $ and Mittelmotor lists them for 80 Euros each ...
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Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 9 2010, 09:58 AM
Quiet! We're trying to get Scott in trouble.
Precisely!
Posted by: mepstein Nov 9 2010, 10:03 AM
Look at all the hoses in the engine compartment. I think it's turbocharged.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 9 2010, 01:05 PM
Well.
It CLEARLY needs a new battery tray!
Did the rot get to the long? I think that you scored big time on this car! I love the seats too!
zach
Posted by: Drums66 Nov 9 2010, 06:04 PM
those seats are cool looking
I think so too!!(it's a 1.8).....you scored for that price.
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Posted by: mepstein Nov 9 2010, 06:13 PM
Well.
It CLEARLY needs a new battery tray!
Did the rot get to the long? I think that you scored big time on this car! I love the seats too!
zach
I stuck a long screwdriver down to the hell hole and nothing poked through but I would still be surprised if it was solid.
There's a lot of hoses. NOS? Is that a GT front bumper?
Posted by: mepstein Nov 9 2010, 06:14 PM
those seats are cool looking
I think so too!!(it's a 1.8).....you scored for that price.
1 engine, 8 cylinders?
Posted by: Drums66 Nov 9 2010, 06:28 PM
those seats are cool looking
I think so too!!(it's a 1.8).....you scored for that price.
1 engine, 8 cylinders?
....1.8 liter,4 cylinders
Posted by: mepstein Nov 10 2010, 10:50 AM
The spare is also a Pedrini styled Mahle. Scotty B is a lucky guy.
Car has little Ziebart plugs all over. Is that a special German upgrade?
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Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 10 2010, 03:31 PM
You should be able to trade out all of the body work for that rare find!
Posted by: mepstein Nov 15 2010, 11:53 AM
Origional bill of sale
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 1 2010, 01:27 PM
Started playing around.
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 1 2010, 01:30 PM
Just can't warm up to the late bumpers
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Posted by: scotty b Dec 1 2010, 06:44 PM
It's official. You now have 2 914's. One at a shop and one at home. Neither one runs, both are eaten up with rust, your wife and kids would be embarrassed to be seen in either 
Posted by: mepstein Dec 1 2010, 08:00 PM
It's official. You now have 2 914's. One at a shop and one at home. Neither one runs, both are eaten up with rust, your wife and kids would be embarrassed to be seen in either
The wheels you want just went up in price
The white car is in my workshop and the red car is at your shop, family doesn't see either of them. The white car is less rusty than the red car. It's all origional except a poor respray, so it's pretty cool to take apart and see what they really looked like in 75. Floors are solid but will need hell hole work.
My daughter made me promise I would drive her to school next year on the first day in a Porsche
If I find another for $100, I have room for a 3rd
Posted by: scotty b Dec 1 2010, 08:27 PM
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It's official. You now have 2 914's. One at a shop and one at home. Neither one runs, both are eaten up with rust, your wife and kids would be embarrassed to be seen in either
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The wheels you want just went up in price
The white car is in my workshop and the red car is at your shop, family doesn't see either of them.
Ah so it's kind of like auto adultry. Keep the strange away from home. Good idea
My daughter made me promise I would drive her to school next year on the first day in a Porsche
So you're in the market for a 911 now ??
If I find another for $100, I have room for a 3rd
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 1 2010, 08:46 PM
So you're in the market for a 911 now ??- Well, guys are practically giving them away on Pelican.
Actually, about a month ago I made an offer on one that one of my clients needs to sell. My offer was insultingly low but the car is still there. Maybe by January...
Posted by: mepstein Dec 4 2010, 08:57 PM
Progress - I think...
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Posted by: bembry Dec 5 2010, 09:15 AM
Wow--that car doesn't have much more rust than my CA 914 did--astounding for a PA find! Combined with the cool seats, low miles, orig sales sticker, that thing should go for a keep-it-all-original restore.
Very nice find.
Posted by: Hammy Dec 5 2010, 10:09 AM
Wow--that car doesn't have much more rust than my CA 914 did--astounding for a PA find! Combined with the cool seats, low miles, orig sales sticker, that thing should go for a keep-it-all-original restore.
Very nice find.
Tell me you're saving it!
Posted by: mepstein Dec 5 2010, 10:34 AM
Wow--that car doesn't have much more rust than my CA 914 did--astounding for a PA find! Combined with the cool seats, low miles, orig sales sticker, that thing should go for a keep-it-all-original restore.
Very nice find.
Tell me you're saving it!
Saving it... but it won't be stock.
Posted by: mepstein Dec 5 2010, 02:45 PM
Mechanic told me it had a fender bender at one time.
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 9 2010, 12:44 PM
more stuff removed.
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 9 2010, 12:57 PM
All wires get tagged
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Posted by: RobW Dec 9 2010, 01:00 PM
You are one fart smella, I mean one smart fella... 
Posted by: mepstein Dec 9 2010, 01:05 PM
Inspiration for build. Keep it light, simple, clean. No airbox or venting in front cowl, minimal dash, minimal carpet, no soundproofing. No long trips, just a fun runabout car for local driving.
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Posted by: type47 Dec 9 2010, 01:10 PM
Yea, but don't ya want some seats?
Posted by: mepstein Dec 9 2010, 01:22 PM
Yea, but don't ya want some seats?
Yes. Probably use black seat covers over origional seats - for now.
Posted by: mepstein Dec 10 2010, 02:16 PM
Look at post 28 & 29. Jackposts looked pretty good. Even held up to a light screwdriver attack. Now see what happens when I get more aggressive. Driverside opened up under medium pressure, passenger side under hard pressure. The actual longs seem to be ok, though the driver side might be getting thin. Still, no breakthrough even pounding on it with big screwdriver.
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 23 2010, 08:16 AM
Future weight loss program:
backpad - 10
interior firewall pad - 15
engine firewall pad - 10
short dash - 10
front airbox assembly - 10
spare tire - 28
spare tire board - 7
some carpet- 10
'75 bumpers - 85
foam trim - 5
total ~ 190lbs
Posted by: scotty b Dec 23 2010, 08:20 AM
Get that tar board out of there and you'll find out the truth behind your floors and drop another 10 ( ? ) lbs. Mapp gas and a scraper takes about 2 hours if your slow 
Posted by: mepstein Dec 23 2010, 09:14 AM
Floors have surface rust but very solid
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passenger side
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Pedal area - not so good
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Front hood latch attatchment point under cowl - mouse nest held water in pocket.
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Passenger side hellhole was caked with a combination of mouse nest and dirt. Held moisture next to metal 
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Driver side hellhole- of course. - Haven't taken a good look at suspention console.
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Posted by: mepstein Dec 31 2010, 10:26 AM
Current condition. I need to heat up my workshop so the wire harness is flexible and can be removed. Freezing temps make it too stiff to work through the tunnel. Did I just say that?
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Posted by: plays with cars Dec 31 2010, 11:31 AM
What about the mechanicals? Any clue on condition of the engine or transmission?
Posted by: mepstein Dec 31 2010, 11:45 AM
Ran when brought in to the mechanic but needed a new clutch. Maybe the guys coming for the Jan GTG will want to give it a try?
Posted by: mepstein Dec 31 2010, 01:25 PM
"Driving" into the workshop.
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Posted by: okieflyr Dec 31 2010, 03:12 PM
Mark,
My suggestion will be to leave the car on the ground until the flange nut on the rear axles can get broke loose since they are usually a bi**h even with a cheater pipe. A little pre-planning with some penetrating oil on the fragile or difficult fasteners around the exhaust will help too.
I've had my heater on today so it's 75 degrees in the garage, and the sawzall is breaking a sweat. I just pulled the complete harness out as well, but I could cut the sheetmetal openings to make things easier.
Posted by: mepstein Dec 31 2010, 05:02 PM
Mark,
My suggestion will be to leave the car on the ground until the flange nut on the rear axles can get broke loose since they are usually a bi**h even with a cheater pipe. A little pre-planning with some penetrating oil on the fragile or difficult fasteners around the exhaust will help too. Good idea - I have no jack anyway
I've had my heater on today so it's 75 degrees in the garage, and the sawzall is breaking a sweat. I just pulled the complete harness out as well, but I could cut the sheetmetal openings to make things easier.
I took my time with the wire harness and labled each conection, took pictures and even made a chart for the guages. I don't know how to read the wire diagram so I'm hoping this pre planning will help things go better when i put it back together. If I was just pulling it out to sell, it would be quick.
I could use a 4x4 piece of metal under the front trunk hinge where it rusted through. front hood release ataches with 2 bolts from the underside. picture is in this thread.
Posted by: okieflyr Jan 1 2011, 03:58 PM
I could use a 4x4 piece of metal under the front trunk hinge where it rusted through. front hood release ataches with 2 bolts from the underside. picture is in this thread.
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I had already cut the dash and firewall out, but I have a piece that may work.
I can also set aside the driver side suspension console if you want any patch metal for that repair? If not I'll leave it on the trailer going to the scrap yard in a couple weeks.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 1 2011, 04:23 PM
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I could use a 4x4 piece of metal under the front trunk hinge where it rusted through. front hood release ataches with 2 bolts from the underside. picture is in this thread.
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I had already cut the dash and firewall out, but I have a piece that may work.
I can also set aside the driver side suspension console if you want any patch metal for that repair? If not I'll leave it on the trailer going to the scrap yard in a couple weeks.
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Sure, thanks, mark
Posted by: mepstein Jul 15 2014, 08:35 PM
Paul P's turn to finish the story
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