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Posted by: hwgunner Nov 10 2010, 01:43 PM

OK, so I have had a few people ask about doing a group buy on 914-6 oil tanks. I have made some calls and done some figuring and here is what i have come up with.

Number 1: Need 10 of these sold
Patrick Motorsports Tank $635
Patrick Motorsports Filter Console $125.00
Patrick Motorsports Filler Neck w/ Dipstick $150.00

The Filter console and filler neck are not required for the buy in. I will be discounting them on my own so that you guys will be getting a better deal.



Number 2: Need 5 of these sold
Vellios Oil Tank (with filter console) $450.00



Number 3: Need 10 of these sold
GPR Custom 3 piece Cohline 914-6 Oil Line set $250.00 ($275 less than ten sets)


Please no BASHING of any of these parts. Discussion and facts are great but I do not want to get into any mudslinging about any of this.

Is there anything else you guys need?

As with all sales, this is plus shipping and Sales Tax if in Ca.

Let me know if you have any questions and post here if you are in so I can keep track

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Nov 10 2010, 01:51 PM

Very interested in the oil lines. I could not find any info on the GPR site - do youhave alink to the specifics?

Thanks for putting these buys together!!

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 10 2010, 02:16 PM

Put me down the for:
#1
Patrick Motorsports Tank $635
Patrick Motorsports Filter Console $125.00
Patrick Motorsports Filler Neck w/ Dipstick

and #3
GPR Custom 3 piece Cohline 914-6 Oil Line set $250.00

FWIW, I think these are the lines right?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_rdc=1&item=370257141972&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D%2509370257141972%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&viewitem=

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 10 2010, 02:26 PM

You're down!

thanks

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 10 2010, 02:31 PM

Here is what i can tell you. They are not on the website because i have some major changes coming and I do not want to have to do the work twice. The lines are custom made for me on a Cohline oil line machine with real Cohline parts and hose. Essentially these are the same as the factory lines. They are the same size and configuration as the original 914-6 oil lines, including the 90 degree fitting and the coupler that goes through the bracket on the body. For a conversion car that does not have the bracket you can either make and add the bracket or find another way to support the line at that point. Either way that is easy enough. If you have any other questions let me know.

Posted by: mharmon Nov 10 2010, 03:01 PM

I'm in for an oil line set.

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Nov 10 2010, 03:14 PM

Shoot - my car is in the process of being converted, so I do not have the hard return line. I will drop you a line/PM directly to discuss the one long line I will need.

Thanks!!

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 10 2010, 03:50 PM

I can have any line made for you. Just let me know which one and how long you want it.

jonathan

Posted by: ONTHEGRIND Nov 10 2010, 06:25 PM

I would be interested as I may change my mind and do the swap after all..Any way you could post pics or send me pics of the items listed

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 10 2010, 06:29 PM

Do you have pics of the two tanks, side by side???

Posted by: -JR- Nov 11 2010, 04:03 AM

Are the Vellios tanks new old stock or is someone remanufacturing them now?

George Vellios seems to be like a Unicorn these days, a mystical creature of great power but no one really knows if they exist anymore!

If they are new old stock, any idea if these tanks contain internal baffling? I've heard that his early versions didn't include any baffling and caused bad oil foaming under certain conditions. These are the cast aluminum tanks I assume.

I assume if I pick the Vellios tank, I just add a Patrick neck to complete it?

Thanks!

Posted by: type47 Nov 11 2010, 07:27 AM

I'll commit to:
Put me down the for:
#1
Patrick Motorsports Tank $635
Patrick Motorsports Filter Console $125.00
Patrick Motorsports Filler Neck w/ Dipstick

and #3
GPR Custom 3 piece Cohline 914-6 Oil Line set $250.00

and I would be interested in an engine oil cooler (on the engine...)

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 11 2010, 08:06 AM

Damn...I wouldn't have the coin for this till mid/late January.

Posted by: tradisrad Nov 11 2010, 08:16 AM

I find my self in the same boat. I wonder if the wife would miss a $1000 form savings...
i want to, but have to wait.
The new sway bar is awesome

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 11 2010, 08:59 AM

Lots of interest. No budget for that right now.

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 11 2010, 12:51 PM

What would be the cut off date?

Posted by: kfish914 Nov 12 2010, 07:51 AM

I would be interested in one of the oil tanks, not sure which is better. However I would not have the money until late January maybe even February.

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 12 2010, 11:02 AM

I think the Patrick Motorsports oil tanks and lighter, one reason I'm going for it

BTW I'd be fine with a delay, if it means more people can do the group-buy...probably won't work on the conversion till spring anyway.

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 12 2010, 02:33 PM

This is true, the Patrick tank is lighter, and that is seen as a benefit.

Posted by: pete-stevers Nov 12 2010, 03:03 PM

any thoughts on photos of the two....
who is making the velios tank for you?

Posted by: patssle Nov 12 2010, 03:10 PM

What else is the difference between the two tanks, besides weight?

And why no bashing...is there a history on one or some of these parts that have caused complaints? Sorry if that's ...

Posted by: -JR- Nov 13 2010, 01:44 AM

Vellios is a cast aluminum tank where as the Partick version is welded aluminum panels.

Patrick tank is slightly larger in capacity as well.

Some early Vellios tanks lacked internal baffling I understand. Can cause oil foaming and in race applications it can starve the oil pickup in long cornering I also hear.

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 13 2010, 09:50 AM

Every part has a history. I do not mind the facts, which so far is what we have, but quite frankly there is a personal side to some of these parts that I do not feel would be appropriot for this thread. I just don't want to get into that personal side about any of the manufacturers.

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 13 2010, 09:52 AM

Thai is a bit up in the air right now. I definitely do not want things dragging on for months though unless someone else wants to keep track of things.

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 13 2010, 10:07 AM

I should have photos of the 2 sided by side at the end of this next week. The 2 taks are very different in design but end up doing the same thing. The Patrick tank is sheet aluminum that has been cut and welded together with internal baffeling and accessory and mounting points just like the original. The Vellios tank, made by Vellios, is cast aluminum, 2 halves, and also has internal baffeling. The mounting points on the Vellios are the same as the factory and it requires a filler neck like the factory but it has the filter console/stand built right in. This further recuces the cost of the Vellios over the Patrick. It must also be pointed out that the Vellios tank is heavier by several pounds because it is cast.

The last thing I want to say is that I will not sell anything that I do not beleive in. Both of these tanks are good tanks.

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 13 2010, 02:40 PM

I could do that.

Just a thought:
We could also do a deposit so we know exactly where were at numbers wise. There would be a paypal charge (if I was to hang onto everyones deposit), I don't want to be out of pocket. Then we could have a February 1st or March 1st due date.
Then we could all get the Patrick tank.

Myself, I could probably get together the funds for just the Vellios tank within a month or so if things are leaning that way.

BTW the console for the Patrick tank, is it the same as the one for the /6 tank?
If it is I have it.

Posted by: -JR- Nov 13 2010, 11:30 PM

Put me down for a Vellios tank and a filler neck assembly.

I couldn't find any information on the oil lines. There are at least 6 lines in a complete front oil cooler setup or more depending on how it's configured.

Which oil lines are in this kit? A simple diagram would be SUPER! Or part numbers of Porsche lines it's replacing would also work for me.

Thanks Johnathan.

BTW - The group buy steel GT fender flare order went smooooth.

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 17 2010, 10:15 AM

Bump, worst case I could probalby swing the vellios tank.

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 23 2010, 01:19 PM

Weekly bump to let people know this is still hopefully in the works.

Posted by: patssle Nov 23 2010, 01:43 PM

I'll go for the Vellios...can't seem to justify the couple hundred dollars more for the PMS tank.

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 23 2010, 01:48 PM

Yes, this is still going to happen at this point. I will do a count over the long weekend to let people know where we stand.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Nov 24 2010, 08:19 AM

Where's George when you need him.......Can't he buy all this stuff and give us a $4 discount????

Posted by: tomeric914 Dec 2 2010, 09:39 AM

Is this group buy still on? I'm curious what you mean by, "I will be discounting them on my own so that you guys will be getting a better deal" Does that mean that the price for the neck and console will be less than what is listed below?

Does the Filler Neck w/ Dipstick below also fit the Vellios?

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 2 2010, 11:24 AM

The prices "listed below" are the discount prices. Regular price for both of those is $159 each. Yes the filler neck fits the Vellios unit. And yes this is still on. From what I have seen though this could take a while because there are several people who are looking at pulling the trigger after the first of the year.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 2 2010, 05:59 PM

Thanks for the update...FYI, got the sheetmetal today!!! Impressed with your other group buys.

Posted by: jmill Dec 2 2010, 06:22 PM

Very interested in the PM goodies. Can't swing diddly until January. I'm in for the tank for sure. Don't know if I can swing the cash for the console and neck by then though. Hopefully santa is good to me.

Posted by: -JR- Dec 2 2010, 10:50 PM

I never got a reply to this question...

Posted by: bigkensteele Dec 2 2010, 11:50 PM

I would be in for a Velios tank, the console, and the lines. If the GB goes to the Patrick tank, I am still in, but I would rather save the money and go Velios. Please let me know if you want/need a deposit.

Thanks, Jonathan - you are once again stepping up and doing the crap that nobody else wants to do, but benefits many...

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 3 2010, 10:24 AM

Sorry I missed this. the oil line set is the 3 piece set for a stock 914-6. this is not for a front oil cooler set up. there are the 2 lines that get coupled together at the stock oil line bracket, with the coupler, and the line that attaches to the curved hard line that goes under the motor. if you are looking for a custom set up to go to a front cooler i can probably get that done also but we would need to talk on the phone about it. thanks for asking.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 3 2010, 11:53 AM

OK here is the list i have so far. I will update as people chime in. getting close on the Vellios.

Patrick Oil tank
1. JmuRiz
2. type47

Vellios oil tank
1. -JR-
2. patssle
3. bigkensteele
4. tomeric914

Filter Console
1. JmuRiz
2. type47

Filler neck with dip
1. JmuRiz
2. type47
3. -JR-
4. tomeric914
5. patssle
6. bigkensteele

Oil line set (3)
1. JmuRiz
2. mharmon
3. type47
4. bigkensteele

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 3 2010, 12:01 PM

Yes this is the oil line set that i am talking about.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 7 2010, 08:27 PM

If any one with the Patrick tank wants to jump ship let me know because i am ordering the Vellios tanks tomorrow. Vellios guys get ready because i will be asking for $$ as soon as i get a confirmation as to when i will be receiving the tanks.

Jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: patssle Dec 7 2010, 09:13 PM

Oh, add the filler neck and dip to my Vellios order since that is needed.

Posted by: tomeric914 Dec 7 2010, 09:14 PM

I'm jumping ship! Please switch me from the PMS tank to the Vellios unit.

Also take me off the list for the filter console since that's an integral bit to the Vellios.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 8 2010, 12:17 PM

Updated

OK here is the list i have so far. I will update as people chime in. getting close on the Vellios. beerchug.gif

Patrick Oil tank
1. JmuRiz
2. type47


Vellios oil tank
1. -JR-
2. patssle
3. bigkensteele
4. tomeric914

Filter Console
1. JmuRiz
2. type47

Filler neck with dip
1. JmuRiz
2. type47
3. -JR-
4. tomeric914
5. patssle
6. bigkensteele

Oil line set (3)
1. JmuRiz
2. mharmon
3. type47
4. bigkensteele

Posted by: sixgt Dec 8 2010, 02:26 PM

I would like to get a set of the oil lines, and the filler neck and dipstick. Thanks.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 8 2010, 03:38 PM

I will add you to the list.

jonathan

Posted by: ONTHEGRIND Dec 8 2010, 04:17 PM

Did you ever get any pictures ? I am in with cash in hand I would just like to see a comparo between velios and patrick..

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 8 2010, 05:05 PM

I have been looking for my old pics of the Patrick but can not find it at this point. I will look some more. I sold my last Patrick tank just before the group buy and have been trying to get JP to sell me one at the GB price but he has raised my price for one and wont send just one to be for the GB. I have ot get 10 to be able to buy them at the GB price and get more pictures. You can see the Patricjk one on his website and the Vellios can be seen http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310267368760&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT.

Jonathan

Posted by: bigkensteele Dec 8 2010, 05:50 PM

Hi Jonathan,

Please take me off the list for the oil lines. I plan to run a front cooler.

Thanks,
Ken

Posted by: ONTHEGRIND Dec 8 2010, 06:03 PM

I think I may try a velios just so I can dispersant coat it..

Posted by: jcd914 Dec 8 2010, 06:35 PM

If I commit to a Vellios tank how long do I have to scrape the money together?

Quote from your E-Bay ad: "Very rare find here as this one is brand new."

If these are so rare how are you putting together a group buy?
Do you have a secret source?

Thanks for doing this

Jim

Posted by: ONTHEGRIND Dec 8 2010, 10:56 PM

EDIT...

I a may be interested in the vellios if I can get it before xmas.. I would like to test out some dispersant coatings on it...

I want the patrick stuff but it looks like it will be months untill that is ready.. please let me know what the time frame is for getting the vellios.

Thanks

Posted by: sww914 Dec 8 2010, 11:47 PM

If I can't bash here can you at least make your ebay pages automatically list questions asked on the page so I can harass you there?

Posted by: r_towle Dec 9 2010, 12:11 AM

What, no bashing....isnt that half the fun?

R

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 9 2010, 06:10 PM

Fixed it for you Steve. Go over there and check it out. Come back when you have it down!

jonathan

Posted by: patssle Dec 19 2010, 06:06 PM

Bumping this up!

Posted by: tomeric914 Dec 29 2010, 01:30 PM

Any movement on this Jonathan? thanks!

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 29 2010, 05:05 PM

OK, I have been kinda quiet because I had a problem that I had to work out on the Vellios oil tanks. When I originally talked to George about the tanks I brought up using the factory oil lines and nothing was said. From this I assumed that using the factory lines would not be a problem. It turns out, though, George started making his tanks so they accepted NPT fitting instead of metric fittings several years ago. this I did not know and, from what I can find, there are no NPT to metric fitting available. I wanted this to be plug and play so I went out and got correct Metric fitting and am having George do this run with them so that oil lines will be a no brainer. If anyone would like the NPT style so you can run AN fittings, NPT to AN is easy to find, let me know and i will get you one of those tanks. if you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask. The tanks will be ready in about 3 weeks so I will be collecting $$ in a couple weeks.

Posted by: C.Plavan Dec 29 2010, 07:08 PM

I may be joining the party for an oil tank. I'm in the process of picking up a 914 that I just bought. Making it a 914-6 racecar.
Do both of these tanks have any internal baffleing for use in a race car?

Posted by: tomeric914 Dec 29 2010, 07:21 PM

EDIT: Nevermind

Posted by: kfish914 Dec 29 2010, 08:38 PM

I also would like the NPT fittings, please

thanks

Posted by: patssle Dec 29 2010, 09:46 PM

What's the difference between NPT and AN and what should I use? For a 81 3.0L SC.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 31 2010, 10:30 AM

NPT stands for National Pipe Thread and AN is what all the hot rod guys use, Earl's and Russell fitting are common AN fittings. George went to NPT on the tank so that guys could choose the size AN fittings they wanted to run. Some guys might want an AN16 fitting while others might use an AN12 fitting. NPT to AN fitting are easy to get and come in all different sizes. This way George makes just one tank.

Porsche uses metric fittings which are different thread size and pitch than AN fittings and there are no NPT to Metric fittings that i can find. I wanted the tanks to be plug and play for a real 914-6 so that is why I am having George make the tanks with the correct metric thread. If you get the Metric tank you will be able to use stock Porsche oil lines (metric) and a stock on engine oil cooler.

the real decision, in my opinion, comes down to what you are going to do with the on engine oil cooler. No matter what you are going to do you will need to modify your on engine oil cooler (or get one that is modified) or get a real 914-6 on engine oil cooler or use a block off plate and front mounted oil cooler.

If you are going with the front cooler then you will probably want the NPT tank because it will be much easier to make up AN lines to go to the front and back and most front oil coolers and on engien block off plates use AN fittings.

If you are sticking with the on engine oil cooler then you need to decide if you are going to modify the cooler with an AN fitting or a metric fitting. Some say it is easier and cheaper to get the AN fitting. Others want to use original parts and go with the Metric. Neither is better than the other in my opinion, I just happen to have the stuff to do the metric lines and can supply an on engine oil cooler with the metric fittings. If you go AN you will have to decide what size is best for you and have someone modify your cooler and make up your lines.

Now if that is not confusing enough for you call me at 800-321-5432 and we will figure out what is best for you.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 31 2010, 10:36 AM

I believe the PMS tank has more internal baffling than the Vellios after talking to both George and Jim. If you are doing a serious race car then the PMS is probably better. the PMS tank can also be had with metric or AN fittings.

Posted by: kg6dxn Dec 31 2010, 10:48 AM

NPT are a tapered thread. the size is measured as I.D. NPT is a US standard and not to be confused with BSS (British Standard). You may also see NPT listed as FPT (Female Pipe Thread) and MPT (Male Pipe Thread).

AN is short for Army/Navy. This style was originally designed for the military. It is a straight thread with a 37 degree cone on the end for sealing. You can get both NPT and Metric AN adapters.

Metric threads are not tapered. They require a sealing ring or gasket. They are measured from the outside point of the thread or OD. A common size is 14mmx1.5 This means 14mm outer diameter of the threads and the threads are 1.5mm apart.

Posted by: tomeric914 Jan 2 2011, 12:02 PM

Is the Vellios tank set up to accept the factory seal and circlip that seals the tank to the body?

Part numbers are 901-107-281 for the circlip and 901-107-291 for the seal.

If you drive your car in the rain, water will spray in through the hole in the body where the oil filter comes through without this seal.

Posted by: -JR- Jan 14 2011, 11:13 AM

Any updates? it's been half a month since you chimed in.

Thanks!

Posted by: hwgunner Jan 14 2011, 12:04 PM

I will be sending PM's to people very shortly. I will have 4 NPT tanks next week and then some Metrick tanks the following week. I need to start getting payment so I do not end up with a bunch of people backing out and a bunch of tanks on the shelf.At this point I am willing to do the Vellios tanks, the oil line sets and the oil filler necks with the dip sticks. The PMS tank and the filter console will have to wait till I get enough people to do 10 of each (I will buty 1 of each so we really need 9 people).

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: hwgunner Jan 14 2011, 12:06 PM

I am still trying to get your picture. Beleive it or not the problem is that george does not do digital pictures and therefore is witing to finish a roll and develope it and send me the picture in the mail! No Kidding!

jonathan
hwgunenr

Posted by: hwgunner Jan 14 2011, 12:36 PM

Here are some pics of the Vellios tank. I have asked George to be a little more careful with the outside of the tank and try and make it look a little prettier. the first one I got had some drips form the sealant and had some scuff marks on the outside.


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Posted by: hwgunner Jan 14 2011, 12:37 PM

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Posted by: hwgunner Jan 14 2011, 12:37 PM

another


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Posted by: hwgunner Jan 14 2011, 12:40 PM

Here is the Patrick Motorsports


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Posted by: kconway Jan 20 2011, 02:23 PM

Is this buy still open? Anymore Vellios tanks available in the GB?

Kev

Posted by: ONTHEGRIND Jan 20 2011, 03:14 PM

I have about a 3/4 gallon of dispersant coating left over if anyone wants to cover up those marks on the tanks..

Posted by: hwgunner Jan 20 2011, 04:02 PM

Still open!
(PM'd you)

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 3 2011, 05:28 PM

OK, George has set me back about 2 weeks. He has just been slow. For that reason i am making a trip to his house this weekend to pick up 5 of the NPT tanks. the Metric tanks should be not far behind.

Jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 3 2011, 08:31 PM

I am interested in this! Are we still able to get in on this?

Are we still able to get in on this and does it have the oil filter and dipstick?

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 3 2011, 08:47 PM

It is still open. The tank has a built in oil filter console but you would need to buy the Filler neck and dipstick. I am selling those too. You will need to choose between NPT and metric fitting for the tank. There is some explanation above. The NPT Tanks are going to ship on Monday and the metric tanks are still a week or 2 out.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: kconway Feb 3 2011, 09:14 PM

Johnathan,
Does the built in filter console sit proud of the sheetmetal? It would have too right to get a seal? What did I buy, NPT or metric?

Kev

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 4 2011, 01:12 PM

How much for the filler neck & dip stick?

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 4 2011, 02:28 PM

Patrick Motorsports Filler Neck w/ Dipstick $150.00

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 8 2011, 07:20 PM

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Posted by: tomeric914 Feb 11 2011, 11:07 PM

We're getting closer! Any expected time frame for completion and shipment Jonathan? I'm 9 weeks from the season's first DE and getting nervous!

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 12 2011, 12:41 AM

I have shipped the NPT tanks. George has the metric fittings and taps and, as you can see from the above picture, the tank halves. He is going to be working on them for the next week or so (maybe 2) and then I will go and get the next batch and then ship them.

jonathan

Posted by: moparrob Feb 18 2011, 12:24 AM

Jonathan,

I may be interested in a Patrick tank. How close are you to getting a group buy on those?

Thanks

Rob

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 18 2011, 12:25 AM

I can npt budge on the quantity of 10 on the Patrick tanks. If you commited we would be at 3. Not close enough for me to sit on the rest.

jonathan

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 18 2011, 10:34 AM

OK, If I am able to get in on this I am ready! $450 (tank) +$150 (filler neck)! Let me know if I can still get one and where to send the money! I am going to guess that the Metric is all that is left!

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 18 2011, 11:15 AM

They are still available. the metric are the next ones to be done. They will be ready in 1-2 weeks. the NPT will be made again after the metrics. Which would you like?

jonathan

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 18 2011, 11:58 AM

Metric please!

Where does the $$ go?

I may need the oil line kit but I wont know until I go through the box of lines I have. Are they going to be available for a while longer?

Posted by: John Feb 22 2011, 06:55 PM

Can I still get in on this $450 price? I want an NPT threaded tank.

Please PM me details on when and where to send money.

Thank you.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 22 2011, 08:35 PM

I am still waiting for a response to my post and PM!

Jonathan, Any word? Where do I send the $$$$?

Posted by: Ronald4780 Feb 23 2011, 11:21 AM

If it is not too late, please include me in the Vellios oil tank with metric fittings and the filler neck with dip. Thanks.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 24 2011, 12:19 PM

Very quiet?

Am I just TSOL on this one? (Totaly Shit Out of Luck)

Posted by: MikeSpraggi Feb 24 2011, 12:29 PM

I am in urgent need of tank. Ready to buy right now. Can I still get in on this?

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 24 2011, 02:09 PM

Sorry for the delays. No one is TSOL on this. I will honor the prices until I can't any more. As for getting a tank urgently, that probably wont happen unless you want the Patrick tank and don't mind paying more than the GB price because I can not get that price unless I buy 10 at a time and i do not have the $$ for that. I will PM each one of you with more information and post a list shortly of where the next set of tanks is going.

Posted by: John Feb 24 2011, 02:18 PM

Thank you for responding.

I can wait, I just want to know if I can quit looking and get one from you.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 24 2011, 03:40 PM

I am glad to hear all is good! Let me know where to send the money!

Any rough estimate when the Metric's will be done?

Posted by: BKLA Feb 24 2011, 04:07 PM

can I still get in on the following?

GPR Custom 3 piece Cohline 914-6 Oil Line set $250.

Patrick Motorsports Filler Neck w/ Dipstick $150.00

I just bought a vellos tank on ebay... I should pay more attention to this place!

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 25 2011, 10:02 PM

OK, I think I have sent a PM to everyone that needed one at this point. If you think I missed you or want to know any more about what is going on or just want to STS then send me a PM or call me. An up date on the tanks: Not enough people for the Patrick tanks! I have made offers to those that expressed interest in them to give a smaller discount. On the other hand, if I can get to 10 before i have to order then I will give the old GB price to everyone.

On the Vellios tanks I am right there with you. Waiting and waiting. I did talk to George today about a few things and did get him to agree to let me see about having a shop in my area put the tanks together instead of him doing them all. he has way bigger fish to fry and things to work on than putting tanks together. this may speed things up a bit but we will see.

Looks like we may still have one of the 5 metric tanks i ordered available. If you want to get in line please let me know.

PM me if you have any other questions or post them here.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: -JR- Feb 25 2011, 11:01 PM

Sorry didn't get a PM for any money on my order. Does that mean mine is free? I'll take the oil level sensor you quoted me as well.

Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 7 2011, 08:35 PM

Got my Patrick tank from GPR today. I was originally in for the Patrick, then the Vellios and then back again at the regular price for the Patrick. I am VERY happy with the Patrick tank. Unbelievably light and excellent craftsmanship.

I also took my inspection camera and looked on the inside of the tank at the baffling and all. Again, excellent craftsmanship, even where you'll never see it!

Jonathan, thank you once again! This is going to make for a very clean and problem free installation!

Posted by: hwgunner Mar 13 2011, 11:45 AM

OK, my frustration level has hit an all time high at this point. The main reason is that I can not get the tanks out of George. He has been working on them but it is going very slow because his "regular job" is making him work 6 or 7 days a week for the last 3 weeks, leaving little time for tanks. He has been telling me to be patient and to tell the customers to be patient but that just isn’t working for me anymore. The second thing to do it is the guy who makes the oil lines for me just told me he ran out of fittings and it will be about 5 more days till he has them done, this after he told me he could have 10 sets done in no time. “Are you sure? I don’t need to worry about you running out of anything??” I said. “No, I have plenty of everything”, he responded. I do believe he made a simple mistake and that it was totally unintentional, but it still adds to the frustration. I am confident in the oil lines being done at the end of this coming week. The tanks though, I am not.

So this is where I am at. If anyone who has paid for a Vellios tank wants their money back please let me know and I will send out a refund immediately. I feel terrible about taking your $$ and not being able to deliver. In my view it has just been too long and I can’t continue without offering a refund. I know George will deliver at some point, he has already asked for the $$ on the next tanks because he needs it but I told him I need tanks first, I just don’t know when. He told me again today 2 weeks. I will do what I can to speed things up, I went and spent 10 hours of my time going to Palmdale to pick up the last set of 5 and will do that again if I have to, but can not promise a delivery date at this point.

Now, if any one want to switch to the Patrick tank, I have spoken to Jim and they are in stock and ready to ship, I can do that but the cost will be more than the Vellios for sure. The Patrick tank will be $688.00, I can not get the original GB price unless I do 10 at a time and I just do not have the $$ to do 10 myself. Please also note that the Patrick tank will require a filter console that the Vellios tan does not need. If you are interested in switching to this please contact me.

As for the oil lines, I know they will be ready shortly and will get them out as soon as I have them.

If you have any questions or problems with the above please let me know as soon as possible.

Jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: -JR- Mar 13 2011, 10:34 PM

No problem here if I need to wait another 2 months.

My tub isn't going anywhere soon on a 6.

Thanks!

Posted by: John Mar 13 2011, 10:43 PM

Johnathan,

Please don't stress too badly. I am still in. I don't have a problem waiting a while.

If an NPT tank opens up, I can pay as soon as you ask.

Posted by: type47 Mar 14 2011, 06:41 AM

I'm OK with the arrangement. Thanks for putting this together.

Posted by: BKLA Mar 14 2011, 02:16 PM

Jonathan -

thanks for the update. No problem on the wait.

Thanks!

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Mar 28 2011, 03:33 PM

Any word yet??

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Mar 31 2011, 09:49 PM

Bump, project is stalled, any info yet?

Posted by: tomeric914 Mar 31 2011, 10:10 PM

Jeff,

If you need a tank now, spend the extra $400 and get the Patrick tank. You'll be glad that you did.

Posted by: hwgunner Apr 2 2011, 06:18 PM

OK, I am done with the "2 weeks" stuff. I just got off the phone with George about 10 minutes ago. the tanks are still not ready. He has 4 Machined and tapped and is finishing the fifth. Then he is going to weld them. I really feel bad about this but am in a position that i just have no controll over at this point. I keep trying to get him to do the tanks but i just can not get him to work any faster. In the last 2 months his job has been working him 7 days a week and that means the tanks don't get done. As posted several weeks ago, I feel terrible about this and will do what ever I can to make it right. Please contact me if you need a refund or if you want to switch to the Patrick tank.

Posted by: 9146986 Apr 3 2011, 08:06 AM

Jonathan, I got the "two weeks" rap from Velios ten years ago. Sorry for your hassle, but I don't believe anything that guy says. I had to threaten legal action to get tanks that I had prepaid for.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Apr 13 2011, 09:30 AM

Received my Patrick tank last night!! Thanks Jonathan

Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 14 2011, 07:49 PM

Sorry for the lapse in communication, sent you some funds. For some reason it wouldn't let me post a note...so thanks again for working on this!!!

Maybe sometime this year I'll get around to installing all these goodies.

Posted by: hwgunner Apr 14 2011, 08:13 PM

Saw the payment. Will ship as soon as it clears. thanks for the order.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: -JR- May 25 2011, 10:00 PM

*PING*

Whut up?

Posted by: JmuRiz May 26 2011, 09:00 AM

Not sure on the velios, but the PMS tank and accessories came.

Posted by: -JR- May 26 2011, 09:09 PM

I'm in for a Vellios, but no rush. It's been over a month since the last update. So it's nice to know if there has been progress.

Posted by: hwgunner Jun 8 2011, 10:00 AM

OK, so here is th edeal. the Vellios tanks are on hold indefinitely. At this point the Metric ones are not done and have no ETA. Since any new NPT tanks will be done after the metric ones are done they have no ETA either. I have committed to George to buy the Metric tanks when they are complete but will not be selling them until I get a call from him saying I can pick them up. Again, NO ETA on these. I will post them again ONLY when I have them IN-HAND. Sorry for anyone that got bogged down in this.

I do still have a couple Patrick tanks available at the GB price if anyone is interested. Contact me.

jonathan

Posted by: John Jun 20 2011, 06:14 PM

I'm officially out.

My PMS tank and AN fittings showed up today.

It's a nice piece. If anyone wants to see what it looks like on the inside, I can take some pics with my boroscope.

Posted by: hwgunner Jul 23 2011, 12:23 PM

Still no response from George. I do have one last Patrick tank here, ready to be shipped if anyone is still interested. PM me if you are.

Posted by: -JR- Jul 24 2011, 09:23 PM

I'm still in for a metric Vellios tank when, if, they are up.

Thanks

Posted by: hwgunner Jul 26 2011, 03:24 PM

Just so you know, i have not heard from George in a while and he has not returned my calls for a couple weeks.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: -JR- Sep 22 2011, 05:38 PM

Just checking in again since it's been almost two months.

Thanks!

Posted by: -JR- Oct 22 2011, 12:15 AM

I'm out now, just received my factory tank and accessories today.

Thanks for trying to set it up Johnathan.

Posted by: hwgunner Oct 22 2011, 01:41 PM

JR, sorry I could not make it happen.

at this point this thread is dead except I do have one PMS Tank left for $635.00 is someone wants it.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: John Oct 22 2011, 08:08 PM