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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 07:56 PM

Ok, As a preface, I have part of the 914world site for about a year and a half, but had owned my porsche for 5 years or so before I found this amazing resource. I figured that It was about time I started to document my work like everyone else on here seems to do. I'm not doing anything especially spectacular, but it will be nice to look back on this in a few years and have the whole journey in one spot! So enough of that, Hrere goes!

I bought the car in 2003 at the ripe old age of 14 for 900$. It didnt go, didn't stop, no electricals worked, the paint was peeling, and it had just been hit in the quarter panel by a forklift. But what can I Say, I was in love!
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After a few years of polishing contacts to get the electricals to work I went to work stripping the car down for paint in 2005
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I was able to get a great deal on the paint job, the only caveat was that it ended up being in the paint shop for around a year!
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While the car was at paint I went to work rebuilding the engine:
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:03 PM

While the car was off at apint I had some more time to do more research on my 914. I had somehow ended up with a 1973 914 2.0L with frond and rear anti-sway bars, koni classics on the rears, foglights, and the appearance package interior. I also had some fun 5-lug fuchs look alikes and an aftermatket grant steering wheel.
When I finally got the car back from paint in 2006 I was very happy with how it looked!
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I immediately went to work putting the car back together:
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:05 PM

Test Drive 2006:
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Some images after It was cleaned two years after paint:
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:11 PM

in 2009 I sent my rear koni's off to TSM Enchanced in AZ to have them rebuilt. After I recieved them back I primered and painted them. During this time I also bought new Koni adjustables for the front.
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:12 PM

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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:14 PM

in winter 2009 I decided to take some artsy night photos back in NM:
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That's the money shot right there.

As someone who loves the 70's colors (Orange, Yellow, Green) on these things, that looks gorgeous in black.
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That's the money shot right there.

As someone who loves the 70's colors (Orange, Yellow, Green) on these things, that looks gorgeous in black.
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Thanks!

Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:18 PM

In the spring of 2010 I joined in on one of the good Dr.'s transmission clinics in denver to rebuild my flagging 5 speed. What an experience! On site I discoved the tranny I brought was essentially useless as a core and had to buy a new core on the spot. made that cost back however by selling parts off my old transmission!
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:19 PM

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I just had to take it for a spin up in the mountains after I put the new transmission in. It ran like a dream!
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:22 PM

In the summer of 2010 I bought a 500$ parts car and found that theough the body was rusted rotten, nearly every piece of rubber on the car was in perfect condition! Score!



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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:23 PM

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After the summer I brought my 914 back up to school in colorado with me and was able to take it our for a couple of laps at one of the local tracks:
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:25 PM

I also found some time to make a few more custom shift knobs
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:26 PM

I also did a bit of engine dress up.
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:32 PM

The past few months it has been too cold to want to do much driving without heat exchangers, so I started working on some of my small pet peeves. I installed the engine bay light, the liscence plate lights, fixed my odometer, fixed my console clock and made a custorm horn.
I had a spare butterfly center lying around so I bought a porsche insignia on ebay, cut a hole to fit and fitted a small momentary pushbutton from radio shack behind it.
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it works great and at a fraction of the cost of all the correct horn equipment. I also dont have to worry about accidentally hitting the horn button during turns.

Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:34 PM

and the finished product:
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:35 PM

I had a few leftover shift knobs lying around so I built a coat rack too.
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:38 PM

some new re-upholstry:
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 08:42 PM

And the seat in the car:
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Now I'm into wheel refinishing!
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And now, Thank God, I'm all caught up. New posts to come as work progresses. New trunk mount and 140 # springs are on the list, as well as perhaps pblasted and painted trailing arms!
-Ross

Posted by: RobW Feb 5 2011, 09:00 PM

Nice work! You rock! Time to make that Olympic blue a driver! idea.gif

Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 09:08 PM

unfortunately, this is what happened to the olympic blue car...
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Posted by: MDG Feb 5 2011, 09:30 PM

Nice! thumb3d.gif I Love black 914s

Posted by: FourBlades Feb 5 2011, 09:49 PM

Nice thread and great pictures.

Great idea with the horn.

It is fun when you can keep tweaking while being able to drive your car.

John

Posted by: 914 shifter Feb 5 2011, 10:37 PM

nice work.

Posted by: rnellums Feb 5 2011, 10:42 PM

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Nice thread and great pictures.

Great idea with the horn.

It is fun when you can keep tweaking while being able to drive your car.

John

I totally agree. I don't want jackstands to become a part of my car!

Posted by: roadster fan Feb 6 2011, 01:09 PM

Nice Car! thanks for posting the pics. Keep driving while you improve it, my 73 has been on jackstands for years.....


Jim

Posted by: rnellums Feb 6 2011, 03:47 PM

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Nice Car! thanks for posting the pics. Keep driving while you improve it, my 73 has been on jackstands for years.....


Jim

Mine was on jackstands for the first four years of it's time with me. My goal is not to have it out of commission for mOre than a month for the next three years. Next project: elephant racing bushings for the rear.

Posted by: bembry Feb 6 2011, 08:59 PM

Great work--you've done terrific things with that 914.

Posted by: rnellums Feb 15 2011, 11:47 AM

I finished re-finishing the spare and am really happy with the results, it just took forever. steady as she goes I guess.
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 15 2011, 11:48 AM

wow... not the right order. Some more pictures though
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 15 2011, 11:50 AM

I am also getting ready to re-work the rear suspension. Here are some prep shots
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Also on the to-do list is welding in a new trunk hinge mount:
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Posted by: hwgunner Feb 15 2011, 02:07 PM

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Go, Doc, Go! Nice shirt!

Posted by: rnellums Feb 15 2011, 07:32 PM

I just finished pulling the engine so I can weld in that new trunk mount and swap the clutch. The pull went well, but much to my dismay I discovered to messy PO repairs I had thought I avoided until tonight. The Passenger trailing arm, as well as some of the sheet metal in the hell hole seems to have been replaced. I also found some evidence of a separate fender being welded on in parts. To add insult to injust I also found a hairline crack in the paint at the edge of the door. upon closer inspection I found that there was a layer of bondo underneath. I went and did the magnet test and found that even my strongest magnet could barely hold. I knew it had damage ther, but had hoped the paint shop did a good job of pulling it out. Ok. Rant over. Back to work!

Posted by: rnellums Feb 19 2011, 07:17 PM

Here are some more pictures of the the engine and transmission apart, along with a shot of the clutch that came out as compared to the brand new clutch.
Some of the clutch dragging I had before I pulled out the tranny I think I can attribute to the absence of shims on the throwout arm pivot ball. The clutch seemed to be in prety good shape.
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 19 2011, 07:28 PM

I removed the rockers to get better access to the trailing arms. As I did I noticed something strange on the longs. Ten minutes later after pulling what felt like 2 pounds of caulk off the car I ended up with this. a 10" crack up the long. Nothing serious by 914World standards, but caulk? really?
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So I pulled out my trusty MIG and welded up the cracks. Not a permanent solution, but it sould buy me some time before I can dig into it for real. I would really appreciate it if those with more knowledge could chime in on the strength of such repairs. I also am getting hookied up with a weld on clamshell long from a friend here that should allow me to strengthen it further.
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The welds dont look half bad after some grinding!
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 19 2011, 07:31 PM

To cheer myself up I went over to senor O'sheas to grab some goodies. Check out this haul!!!
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I also Spent some time today grounding down the old trunk mount in preparation for the replacement.
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Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 19 2011, 07:51 PM

Hey Man,
I am very proud to have been able to help you with this in my own little way smile.gif It looks great!

Posted by: dakotaewing Feb 19 2011, 08:45 PM

Don't weld in the trunk mounts!

Get James West's trunk mount kit instead-
It is some work to install, but you have a lot of adjustment compared to the weld in mounts! And all it takes is a drill and common hand tools...

Posted by: rnellums Feb 19 2011, 09:35 PM

I've heard that they are great, but honestly I feel more comfortable welding than drilling. And there is the cost factor too. I guess if the weld in doesn't work I can go for the j west system.

Posted by: majkos Feb 20 2011, 09:37 AM

Dude this is a great thread.
I'm glad to be of some help with the goodies

but you're doing what I suggest is scary!
I better stop BS'ing you happy11.gif

Posted by: rnellums Feb 22 2011, 11:31 PM

Well Kev, I'll be by this week to grab some more hopefully. We still need to figure out the Zert situation. This weekend was pretty frustrating, It was good and long, but I didnt get much work done. Today I finished cleaning off the trailinag arms to prep them for paint. I got the first coat of primer on before the sun went down and it got too cold to paint. The good news is that I did maneage to install a stereo system in my 72' pontiac project. Anyways. The pictures from today:
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Posted by: Gint Feb 23 2011, 06:33 AM

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The good news is that I did maneage to install a stereo system in my 72' pontiac project.

I want to see pictures of that.

Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 12:19 PM

It aint pretty Gint. DAPO cut enourmous holes in the kicker panels and my speakers are only 6x6's. I hot the deck for 10$ and the speakers for 30$ so I did the best with what I had. It looks nasty, but at least I have tunes now. More pictures to follow...

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 23 2011, 12:58 PM

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On site I discoved the tranny I brought was essentially useless as a core and had to buy a new core on the spot.


OMG... you fell for that? Oldest trick in his "house call" bag. He does that at every clinic. He uses the dough on cheap hookers. ohmy.gif

Looking good smilie_pokal.gif

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Great build thread. beerchug.gif I followed someone's suggestion on this board to put a few small tackwelds on the backside of the threaded collar flanges to ensure it won't break free. YMMV.
Geoff


Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 07:45 PM

Yeah, I figured that out the hard way, it takes forever to screw it in otherwise dry.gif . Here are some pictures of my ROUGH 72' Pontiac. Its a solid driver, and fun to cruise in, especially in the summer. but its not much of a looker...
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 07:46 PM

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On site I discoved the tranny I brought was essentially useless as a core and had to buy a new core on the spot.


OMG... you fell for that? Oldest trick in his "house call" bag. He does that at every clinic. He uses the dough on cheap hookers. ohmy.gif

Looking good smilie_pokal.gif

I spend it on a tranny, and he spends it on hookers... coincidence?

Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 07:48 PM

Here are some pictures of the interior and the speakers. The install looks REALLY REALLY good... I know. I did the backseat myself.
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Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 07:51 PM

Some more of the orange bomber...
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Now that the stereo is in the Pontiac I have to decide what to do with this... happy11.gif
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And i finished the first coat of enamel on my trailing arms today. add one more day of paint and then a week to cure and I'll have my baby back on the road in no time.
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Posted by: Gint Feb 23 2011, 07:51 PM

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Here are some pictures of my ROUGH 72' Pontiac. Its a solid driver, and fun to cruise in, especially in the summer. but its not much of a looker...
I like it. Beats not having one at all!

Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 23 2011, 07:53 PM

Jeez, I am not even posted in this thread and I am having my name used in vain, vein, vane, vayne (?).

I had to swear off the cheap hookers since I am married so now it is booze and car parts biggrin.gif

Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 07:55 PM

Gint, I need to give you that Dk Grn matchbox one of these days too. I wont be able to make it to cars and coffee in march due to a grad school visit at Purdue that weekend. I need to get it to ya sometime though... keep an eye out for a red lesney for me too ok? biggrin.gif

Posted by: rnellums Feb 23 2011, 08:14 PM

Sorry Doc, I was only using that for the Pun. First gear is still really stiff, but is getting better? I'm hoping shimming the pivot will help with the clutch dragging.

Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 23 2011, 08:22 PM

No offense taken you gingery bastard biggrin.gif

Posted by: majkos Feb 23 2011, 09:09 PM

Gee whiz, Cuz (Eric) you're stirred up a hornet's nest!



I thought it was way too cool we had enough spare parts among everybody to replace damage items,there was swapping going on.

" This is what it's all about" beerchug.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 23 2011, 10:38 PM

Tranny, Hookers, Stiff, Drag...Swapping? Can we "please" get this thread back on topic? confused24.gif biggrin.gif

How bout them Cubs. Those trailing arms sure look nice! wink.gif

Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 23 2011, 10:43 PM

I tried to party with Eric once. I had one beer, awoke in the morning with sore head and ass confused24.gif

Posted by: rnellums Mar 8 2011, 12:31 AM

Here are some pictures of the sub box work to get this thread back on track.
Herer is the start of the sub box. Its going to house a 12" alpine sub powered by a modest 280 W kenwood amp. I'm going with a sealed design, but due to the desire to leave some footroom for the passenger I'm staying on the low side of the sealed volume. I know Morph makes some saweet sub boxes for the footwell, but this one was almost free!

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The Subwoofer Grate had a strange foot-sized hole right in the most vulnerable spot. Why???
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Posted by: rnellums Mar 8 2011, 12:38 AM

After the box was all assembled I sealed it with silicone, and screwed it together with 1 1/2 in drywall screws. After it I painted it, and carpeted it. No test fit with the actual box just yet, im in the middle of some other projects right now.

I J.B Welded some extra supports onto the grate for additional protection:
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Posted by: rnellums Mar 8 2011, 12:41 AM

I cut a hole in the capteing for the sub and installed it... Perfect fit!
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Sub Box complete biggrin.gif Now I just need to install the amp and see how she do!
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Posted by: Gint Mar 9 2011, 03:40 PM

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Gint, I need to give you that Dk Grn matchbox one of these days too. I wont be able to make it to cars and coffee in march due to a grad school visit at Purdue that weekend. I need to get it to ya sometime though... keep an eye out for a red lesney for me too ok? biggrin.gif
It was too freakin cold anyway!

I have a red Lesney on it's way with your name on it.

Posted by: rnellums Mar 19 2011, 12:01 PM

I just got back from spring break in Mexico, so not much progress to report. However, in a Soriano's hipermercado(supermarket) I came across six 914 matchboxes! cars look the same but the box labeling is different and the back is in spanish of course. The top two rows in this picture are all Mexican Matchboxes!
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Posted by: rnellums Apr 5 2011, 02:15 PM

I've been working hard at school, but here is some progress. I finished pressing in the Elephant Racing bronze bushings into the control arm and bolted them back in. To try to preserve the allignment as much as possible I glued the lower bracket back into the same position it came out in, which should line the holes up well enough for me to limp in to get an allignment.
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This is one of the friendly Colorado locals helping me out
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Kev, I need some pictures of you in here too for all the help you have given me!

On the downside someone dropped a bike on my teener and broke the front turn signal and put a 1.5" scratch down to bare metal! Grrr!
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Posted by: rnellums Apr 5 2011, 02:18 PM

I Also finished installing the 12" sub, the enclosure is on the small side for a sub this bug, but it adds a lot to the sound quality when I'm driving. I mounted the amp in the front on the underside of the tire board. it sits comfortably inside the spare.
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This is another side project I have been working on. It is essentially an enlarged longborad with manly wheels. its a blast to ride!
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Posted by: Cupomeat Apr 5 2011, 02:43 PM

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I Also finished installing the 12" sub, the enclosure is on the small side for a sub this bug, but it adds a lot to the sound quality when I'm driving. I mounted the amp in the front on the underside of the tire board. it sits comfortably inside the spare.
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WOW, with such a Sub-box, you would be hard pressed to have any tall friend ride with you... You might have to date only short girls.

Great thread, beautiful CAR!

Posted by: rnellums Apr 5 2011, 02:59 PM

Funny you should mention that, I'm actually allergic to tall gals, so its a non-issue. My girlfriend isnt a fan of losing the legroom, but is apprecuative of the extra BUMP from the sub.
As an aside, the box is easily removed if I do need to go on an extended road trip, and I didn't damage any of the carpeting or footrest equipment that normally goes back there.

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I Also finished installing the 12" sub, the enclosure is on the small side for a sub this bug, but it adds a lot to the sound quality when I'm driving. I mounted the amp in the front on the underside of the tire board. it sits comfortably inside the spare.
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WOW, with such a Sub-box, you would be hard pressed to have any tall friend ride with you... You might have to date only short girls.

Great thread, beautiful CAR!


Posted by: r_towle Apr 5 2011, 04:32 PM

You should take a look at the inner longs to see if that crack you found is also inside.
Look up near the front, right under the top of the windshield...where the long meets the floor.

Rich

Posted by: rnellums Apr 5 2011, 07:10 PM

I double checked that after I found the original crack. Everything else is pretty sound. The crack was stemming from a pretty ragged rust hole. I had a hell of a time welding up that thin steel. My guess it that here was just enough of a stress concentration to start the crack and then the steel body was ductile enough to propagate it. The weld over patch I put on with plug welds will hold it for the present, but a thorough cancer treatment is surely in store in the future.

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You should take a look at the inner longs to see if that crack you found is also inside.
Look up near the front, right under the top of the windshield...where the long meets the floor.

Rich


Posted by: rnellums May 5 2011, 09:51 PM

I am getting ready to move out to Purdue for grad school, and was planning to take my 914 with me evilgrin.gif . I figured I could drive it straight shot to Indiana, or I could have some fun while I was at it. My current plan is to drive from Denver through the Teton's to Yellowstone. From there I will hit Mt. Rushmore, and the badlands before cruising through Wisconsin to Chicago and from there to Lafayette, some 2286 miles piratenanner.gif .

I've got just about everything running in tip top shape(Including the winsheid washer that I just fixed), so I figure I have about a 60% chance of making it without a breakdown if I stick to about 500 miles a day or less driving.gif . I'm planning on taking a full set of tools, along with a spare dizzy and fuses. Any other key teener bits I shouldnt be without? Have I lost my marbles???? confused24.gif

Posted by: rnellums Jul 7 2011, 05:17 PM

Wrecked! guy ran a red light and slammed my passenger fender!


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Posted by: scotty b Jul 7 2011, 05:21 PM

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Posted by: abnrdo Jul 7 2011, 05:22 PM

Those pictures give me a sick feeling. Sorry man....that sucks.

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Jul 7 2011, 05:27 PM

f_ _ k me. really???!! I cant beleive it! That simply sucks. Are you okay?

Posted by: Jon Fernandes Jul 7 2011, 05:29 PM

Damn, hope you're OK! Sorry about your car sad.gif

Posted by: Series9 Jul 7 2011, 05:31 PM

How did I never meet you?

Some of those earlier pictures look like you live close to Tramway in ABQ.

I was building 914s in Rio Rancho from 2001 until 2008.

WTF?

Sorry about your car. You'll build another.

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Posted by: eric9144 Jul 7 2011, 05:38 PM

Terrible man! I cant imagine... barf.gif

Posted by: rnellums Jul 7 2011, 05:44 PM

I'm fine, just sore. I Will rebuild! But most likely off a roller! I appreciate the support everyone.

Series9: I didn't join the site till 2009, and my car wasn't really driveable till 2007. That said, I would have loved to have met you!

Anyone know of good midwest rollers? Aww, who am I kidding! no one belives in those myths anymore smile.gif

Posted by: Spoke Jul 7 2011, 06:57 PM

Hope you're ok.

Why the fuck does everyone seem to run into our 914's?

We've got to be less than 0.0001% of the cars on the road and everyone seems to get hit.

Damn that sucks. Your car is/was beautiful.

Time to gather those receipts and start adding them up. Your gain with the insurance co. will depend on your homework.

Get for sale ads with concourse, excellent, and normal 914s. Get current values. Good luck.

Posted by: porsche_dreamer Jul 7 2011, 07:06 PM

Damn, sorry about that man. Glad your ok. I see you made it to Indiana.

Posted by: siverson Jul 7 2011, 07:51 PM

Wow, that sucks - sorry to hear about it.

-Steve

Posted by: rnellums Jul 7 2011, 08:01 PM

Porsche_dreamer: i did make it, even with gluing the engine back together in South Dakota, it was still running like a champ! 1200 miles after the repair it is still running strong. This ain't over till its over.

Posted by: ppetion Jul 7 2011, 08:07 PM

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I'm fine, just sore. I Will rebuild! But most likely off a roller! I appreciate the support everyone.

Series9: I didn't join the site till 2009, and my car wasn't really driveable till 2007. That said, I would have loved to have met you!

Anyone know of good midwest rollers? Aww, who am I kidding! no one belives in those myths anymore smile.gif

Sorry about your lost. I wish I was closer. I have one with hood, fender and q/p. Let me know if I van help with anything .

Posted by: echocanyons Jul 7 2011, 08:21 PM

That is heartbreaking, after all that work.

Glad you are OK though

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jul 7 2011, 08:28 PM

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Posted by: mudfoot76 Jul 7 2011, 09:14 PM

Ow that hurts to look at --- shitty luck! Not that it is any consolation, but Indiana just passed some new 'driving while distracted' laws, so if that jackwad was texting while driving, causing him to run the red light, the State has avenues for extra punishment. We can only hope said jackwad spends some time in the pokey getting sheeplove.gif for wrecking a beautifully rebuilt teener.

I don't have any leads on rollers, but if you feel the need for a teener fix, I'm only about one hour south of Lafayette. Next time there is a car wrenching session at my house I'll let you know.

Posted by: porsche_dreamer Jul 7 2011, 09:19 PM

Seems like there are alot of teener's in Indiana, although im teener-less at the moment. Im sure one will pop up for ya. One just sold on ebay for 500 in leopold indiana.

Posted by: mojorisen914 Jul 7 2011, 09:27 PM

Ross,
That fuching sucks man! Glad you're ok. Take the money from the insurance company and build another one.

Posted by: Gint Jul 7 2011, 09:27 PM

Damn that thing's bent. That sucks.

Posted by: Markl Jul 7 2011, 09:34 PM

What a drag, glad you're OK. Your car was a beauty, hope you can build another to match.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 7 2011, 10:06 PM

Glad you are OK and I hope the asshat that hit you was insured. I hope you find a nice roller and rebuild.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 7 2011, 11:19 PM

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Gotta rebuild man. After all the work you put into it you'll never get a 914 out of your blood now. Don't let his insurance company jerk you around. Good luck finding that roller.

Posted by: John Jul 7 2011, 11:38 PM

Crap!

What bad luck. Hope you are OK.

So are you in Indiana now?

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 06:27 AM

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Seems like there are alot of teener's in Indiana, although im teener-less at the moment. Im sure one will pop up for ya. One just sold on ebay for 500 in leopold indiana.


Yeah, I actually was very close to buying that one, but told myself "I dont need TWO!" oops....

Posted by: brant Jul 8 2011, 06:29 AM

oh crap
I'm so sorry

hold your ground with his insurance
they will offer you a fraction of what its worth... but you are not at fault, they are. Hold your ground to get enough back that you don't go underwater

hey I know of a great yellow car for sale

brant

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 06:29 AM

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Crap!

What bad luck. Hope you are OK.

So are you in Indiana now?

Sure am, yesterday was my third day driving that car in Lafayette. I also got bad hail damage the first day my Subaru was here. I'm beginning to think Indiana doesn't like me.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 06:31 AM

QUOTE(brant @ Jul 8 2011, 04:29 AM) *

oh crap
I'm so sorry

hold your ground with his insurance
they will offer you a fraction of what its worth... but you are not at fault, they are. Hold your ground to get enough back that you don't go underwater

hey I know of a great yellow car for sale

brant


Well what should I be expecting from the Insurance company, realistically what was mine worth? I was thinking in the 7000 range, but i am not exactly objective. And how hard is it to ship the yellow car? smile.gif

Posted by: brant Jul 8 2011, 06:38 AM

I think you could use the "excellence magazine" reports and also sales of highly restored cars to ask for much more than 7,000k

how much do you think you had into it over the full restoration.... I was thinking closer to 11,000

what do all of the people reading along think Ross should ask for as replacement value?


Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 8 2011, 06:56 AM

Please do your homework before you meet with the appraiser. Get the Excellence article, Research out some comp's print them and hand them to the appraiser when he arrives. As I have stated in the past I have met very few appraisers that are car guys and have a clue about old car values. It's far easier to state your position up front that try to get the appraiser to change a value after he has found low value cars that are not similar to yours. Most of all be nice and remember, you don't ahve to accept the first offer and you have a right to salvage.

BTW: I'm like 600 miles from Lafayette and I have a Celette.

Posted by: SGB Jul 8 2011, 07:38 AM

I feel sick for ya. sad.gif

Your car was awesome. You have documentation right here of your time and parts expenses. That car was very much an $11K 914. Excellence placed value of a 2.0 in truely excellent shape at close to $15K at least a year ago.

Just think about all you know now for selecting the next one...

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 07:41 AM

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jul 8 2011, 04:56 AM) *

Please do your homework before you meet with the appraiser. Get the Excellence article, Research out some comp's print them and hand them to the appraiser when he arrives. As I have stated in the past I have met very few appraisers that are car gays and have a clue about old car values. It's far easier to state your position up front that try to get the appraiser to change a value after he has found low value cars that are not similar to yours. Most of all be nice and remember, you don't ahve to accept the first offer and you have a right to salvage.

BTW: I'm like 600 miles from Lafayette and I have a Celette.

Car gays huh? Does anyone know what issue of excellence has the most recent publication? I know N.A.D.A. states about 12500 for one in my condition. I was planning to salvage after I get the insurance money because there are at least 3000 in usable parts on it, not including the freshly rebuilt heads. Rick, would you try and rebuild on this chassis using the celette if you were in my shoes?

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 8 2011, 08:03 AM

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 08:41 AM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jul 8 2011, 04:56 AM) *

Please do your homework before you meet with the appraiser. Get the Excellence article, Research out some comp's print them and hand them to the appraiser when he arrives. As I have stated in the past I have met very few appraisers that are car gays and have a clue about old car values. It's far easier to state your position up front that try to get the appraiser to change a value after he has found low value cars that are not similar to yours. Most of all be nice and remember, you don't ahve to accept the first offer and you have a right to salvage.

BTW: I'm like 600 miles from Lafayette and I have a Celette.

Car gays huh? Does anyone know what issue of excellence has the most recent publication? I know N.A.D.A. states about 12500 for one in my condition. I was planning to salvage after I get the insurance money because there are at least 3000 in usable parts on it, not including the freshly rebuilt heads. Rick, would you try and rebuild on this chassis using the celette if you were in my shoes?



Ooops.... blush.gif speed typing. confused24.gif biggrin.gif I ment no offense to our gay members. aaron.gif

If your hell hole is solid, I would build that chassis. You will need a 3/4 front clip and either a repair to the quarter panel or a replacement. If you have issues with structural rust I would shop for a roller. If you need the car as a DD you may want to shop for a driver.

Oh, and if you don't want the salvage I'm sure someone on this site will should the car total. Please let us know what amount is set on salvage by the appraiser before you let the insurance company take it.

Posted by: RFoulds Jul 8 2011, 09:00 AM

Sorry to read about your car. Another good reason for an agreed value collector car policy.

Posted by: porsche_dreamer Jul 8 2011, 10:13 AM

Excellence November 2010 is the last issue I see with 914 pricing. I think your gonna come out ok in the end. Low is 10,400- high is 16,600.

Posted by: jcambo7 Jul 8 2011, 10:14 AM

What an a**hole! ar15.gif I would be so angry. I hope that you get another 914 soon. Glad you are ok. drunk.gif

Posted by: SUNAB914 Jul 8 2011, 10:49 AM

Once settlement is reached, buy your car back from insurance company then use as parts. Probably sell it back to you for $500.00.
sorry about your nice car.

Posted by: JRust Jul 8 2011, 10:49 AM

Damn dude that sucks! sad.gif Yeah get the values & have them ready for the appraiser when you meet. There are plenty of 914 sales that will support a good payoff from the insurance company. Definately buy it back too! Car is way to nice to let go. Looks like there is plenty salvadgable as you mentioned. Even if you went with another tub. You will be money ahead buying that one back. Good luck smile.gif

Posted by: 7TPorsh Jul 8 2011, 11:40 AM

Glad you're ok...looks like two cars hit it. Or did you get hit in front and spin around to take out the back too?

Posted by: 7TPorsh Jul 8 2011, 11:41 AM

Put all your images from your rebuild together so you have proof of the effort and what's involved in these old cars.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 12:37 PM

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Put all your images from your rebuild together so you have proof of the effort and what's involved in these old cars.


just one car, but I did get spun enough to hit him twice. I have an appointment with the claims adjuster monday or tuesday so I've got all weekend to prepare. Thanks for all the suggestions! if anyone has pointers to cars that sold for good prices in comparable condition I sure would appreciate it. the local craigslist in indiana and albuquerque dont really have much to go on~

-Ross

Posted by: jfort Jul 8 2011, 01:03 PM

there is a roller here in Findlay Ohio. Check with Tab Tanner at Autobahn Garage. 419-957-7210

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 02:19 PM

QUOTE(jfort @ Jul 8 2011, 11:03 AM) *

there is a roller here in Findlay Ohio. Check with Tab Tanner at Autobahn Garage. 419-957-7210

I just called! It seems pretty amazing! Can't wait to get pictures

Posted by: tscrihfield Jul 8 2011, 03:55 PM

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 04:19 PM) *

QUOTE(jfort @ Jul 8 2011, 11:03 AM) *

there is a roller here in Findlay Ohio. Check with Tab Tanner at Autobahn Garage. 419-957-7210

I just called! It seems pretty amazing! Can't wait to get pictures


http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/2436870486.html

Hey man, Hate to hear. However, I seen this car a couple days ago and when I seen your post I tought of this car. This car looks great! I figured you would buy yours back and you could do a swap of the 5 lug and engine and other various things. Depending on what you get back from insurance it may be worth it! I know that Cincinnati isnt the closest but worth a look. Best of luck man and glad that you are okay!

Thomas

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 04:12 PM

I'm going to look at the one in Ohio this weekend, so I might call the Cincinnati one too. I have to focus on getting my stats in gear though!
-Ross

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 04:47 PM

Thomas, did you recall what the rust situation was on that Zambezi teener?

QUOTE(tscrihfield @ Jul 8 2011, 01:55 PM) *

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 04:19 PM) *

QUOTE(jfort @ Jul 8 2011, 11:03 AM) *

there is a roller here in Findlay Ohio. Check with Tab Tanner at Autobahn Garage. 419-957-7210

I just called! It seems pretty amazing! Can't wait to get pictures


http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/2436870486.html

Hey man, Hate to hear. However, I seen this car a couple days ago and when I seen your post I tought of this car. This car looks great! I figured you would buy yours back and you could do a swap of the 5 lug and engine and other various things. Depending on what you get back from insurance it may be worth it! I know that Cincinnati isnt the closest but worth a look. Best of luck man and glad that you are okay!

Thomas


Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 8 2011, 09:11 PM

Does your car have a 911 front suspension or a re-drilled 4 bolt? Makes a difference in value.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 8 2011, 09:43 PM

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Jul 8 2011, 07:11 PM) *

Does your car have a 911 front suspension or a re-drilled 4 bolt? Makes a difference in value.


Re drilled, but it does have some Performance bits. Koni adjustables all arOund, 19mm master cyl, and elephant polybronze bushings on the rear. I can probably say the carbs were a performance mod too! smile.gif and a performance Bursch exhaust!

Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:17 PM

Ok, I checked out the suggested 914 in Findlay, I am going to post some pictures immediately following this. There is good and bad. First I'll run through the bad, and then someone should chime in and let me know if the good makes up for it.

Bad:
-Expense, this is a car in pieces for 6500, which can buy a lot of car in a lot of places
-There are some rust issues, although not in the places I suspected.
-----two or three pinholes in the passenger long, not hell hole
-----3x3 hole under gas tank
-----holes at bottom corner of tail lights on both sides
-----small hole under the driver's headlight
-----rust scale on bottom of trunk and behind front bumper
-It's a 76' so it has holes for bumpers I don't want, and doesn't come with bumpers I do want.
-I'm not sure How wild I am about yellow
-It comes with two transmissions, both in unknown condition, one side shift, one tail shift
-it has holes for a hood badge and a rear reflector(not crazy about either)
-my 5 lug wheels wont fit it
-Front mounted oil cooler mounted with rivets to the trunk floor

And now the good:
-The paint seems REALLY nice
-----is 2001 boxter yellow, which should be fairly easy to match
-no evidence of rust in the hell hole
-no signs of rust in the floors near the firewall
-no rockers on car to cover up horrors
-2270 Raby big 4 (CLAIMED 160hp at wheels huh.gif seems too high)
-SS heat exchangers
-Accusump bladder (not sure exactly what this is, I heard it pressurizes the motor oil before it turns over)
-front and rear sways
-BMW front calipers
-turbo tie rods
-Front mounted oil cooler
-harnesses+harness bar
-ss brake lines
-19mm master
-LOTS of spare parts
--two transmissions
--two sets of seats
----one with yellow inserts, one stock
--AN ORIGINAL SARATOGA TOP!!!
--SS rocker panels
--Maybe an extra motor or two
--extra tops
--He will deliver to me at no extra charge


SO... will everyone please chime in and help me decide Deal or no Deal?

Thanks in advance!
-Ross


Trunk Floor Looks flawless except for a tiny bit of seam sealer missing in the corner
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Under the trunk starts me worrying
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Is anyone familiar with "Controlle" shocks? never heard of em myself
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Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:21 PM

The opposite corner of the trunk:, and then some images of the same spots on the outside of the car:
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Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:25 PM

Repair to cracked suspension console:
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Hell Hole
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Rust hole under gas tank:
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Front sways:
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Previous repair to driver's front:
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Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:43 PM

And the rest of the pics.
Advice is GREATLY appreciated

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Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:45 PM

And the mOney shot
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Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:46 PM

It also come with two sets of gas burners

Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 9 2011, 04:50 PM

Looks like a flip car. Someone was going to make quick cash painting and selling. Repairs not done correctly. The nice paint may not be applied well and it may start to show soon. The Saratoga top would be cool. There is a clean roller here in the SF Bay for $2k. Seen it on CL.

Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 9 2011, 04:52 PM

See if you can get them down closer to $4k

Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:54 PM

I was thinking something similar, but he said he had it painted 5 years ago or so.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 04:54 PM

how much is shipping from san fran to Indiana? anyone know?

Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 9 2011, 04:59 PM

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 9 2011, 03:54 PM) *

how much is shipping from san fran to Indiana? anyone know?

$600 is my guess. Usually by weight on a transport truck. More if you want it enclosed.

Posted by: mepstein Jul 9 2011, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 9 2011, 06:54 PM) *

I was thinking something similar, but he said he had it painted 5 years ago or so.


5 years ago is a quick flip for a teener.

Is it a Raby built engine or Raby kit. Makes a BIG difference.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 9 2011, 07:04 PM

I was meaning more that paint flaws should be beginning to show. The guy who owns it also owns a Porsche shop and has been rebuilding engines for 30 years. He rebuilt it after buying it.

Posted by: tomeric914 Jul 9 2011, 07:20 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jul 9 2011, 08:59 PM) *

Is it a Raby built engine or Raby kit. Makes a BIG difference.

Depending on the skills of the builder.

Posted by: mepstein Jul 9 2011, 07:43 PM

QUOTE(tomeric914 @ Jul 9 2011, 09:20 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jul 9 2011, 08:59 PM) *

Is it a Raby built engine or Raby kit. Makes a BIG difference.

Depending on the skills of the builder.


True but his kits are not just unassembled versions of his turnkey engines. But the kit is certainly tons better than a "who knows what they did" rebuild.

Posted by: scotty b Jul 9 2011, 08:28 PM

IF and only IF the engine is a true Raby, and the builder can be found it would be worth the asking price IMHO. Given that, the car has issues which are worse then can be seen. If it is a Raby KIT someone did at home on their own, then I wouldn't go any higher than the stated 4k maybe even not over 3500, The engine is the make it break it point in my opinion. You could get most of your money back out of it alone if it's heritage can be determined. I am fairly certain Jake himself could help with that given some info.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 9 2011, 10:36 PM

Also, Brad Mayeur at 914 Limited in East Peoria IL (yeah, most of the way across IL from you) has a lot of resources, and knows 914s very very well.

--DD

Posted by: tscrihfield Jul 9 2011, 10:56 PM

Ross,
As far as rust, the car is in great shape. When I spoke to the owner he said that there was not any on the car that he could see. I told him to check various places and he called back with good report he said that the hell hole area is bubbly but not bad so it may be promising. I meant to ask if the car was originally a westerner, but i forgot. If you'd like I will stop over there Monday or Wednesday to photograph! Let me know!

Thomas


QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 06:47 PM) *

Thomas, did you recall what the rust situation was on that Zambezi teener?

QUOTE(tscrihfield @ Jul 8 2011, 01:55 PM) *

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 04:19 PM) *

QUOTE(jfort @ Jul 8 2011, 11:03 AM) *

there is a roller here in Findlay Ohio. Check with Tab Tanner at Autobahn Garage. 419-957-7210

I just called! It seems pretty amazing! Can't wait to get pictures


http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/2436870486.html

Hey man, Hate to hear. However, I seen this car a couple days ago and when I seen your post I tought of this car. This car looks great! I figured you would buy yours back and you could do a swap of the 5 lug and engine and other various things. Depending on what you get back from insurance it may be worth it! I know that Cincinnati isnt the closest but worth a look. Best of luck man and glad that you are okay!

Thomas



Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 9 2011, 11:12 PM

Dude, just FYI - if your gear box is messed up, send it to me and I wills straighten it out for you for no charge. You were at the clinic and there are goo parts in it so not an issue if you can source a core. smile.gif

Posted by: rnellums Jul 10 2011, 07:57 AM

I called him yesterday and I'm afraid the green car has already sold. It did look really nice though!
-Ross

QUOTE(tscrihfield @ Jul 9 2011, 08:56 PM) *

Ross,
As far as rust, the car is in great shape. When I spoke to the owner he said that there was not any on the car that he could see. I told him to check various places and he called back with good report he said that the hell hole area is bubbly but not bad so it may be promising. I meant to ask if the car was originally a westerner, but i forgot. If you'd like I will stop over there Monday or Wednesday to photograph! Let me know!

Thomas


QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 06:47 PM) *

Thomas, did you recall what the rust situation was on that Zambezi teener?

QUOTE(tscrihfield @ Jul 8 2011, 01:55 PM) *

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 8 2011, 04:19 PM) *

QUOTE(jfort @ Jul 8 2011, 11:03 AM) *

there is a roller here in Findlay Ohio. Check with Tab Tanner at Autobahn Garage. 419-957-7210

I just called! It seems pretty amazing! Can't wait to get pictures


http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/2436870486.html

Hey man, Hate to hear. However, I seen this car a couple days ago and when I seen your post I tought of this car. This car looks great! I figured you would buy yours back and you could do a swap of the 5 lug and engine and other various things. Depending on what you get back from insurance it may be worth it! I know that Cincinnati isnt the closest but worth a look. Best of luck man and glad that you are okay!

Thomas




Posted by: rnellums Jul 10 2011, 07:59 AM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jul 9 2011, 09:12 PM) *

Dude, just FYI - if your gear box is messed up, send it to me and I wills straighten it out for you for no charge. You were at the clinic and there are goo parts in it so not an issue if you can source a core. smile.gif

Do you mean the one froom my black car? I'm thinking it should be fine, only the front got hit, and I was still able to shift after the accident(I backed it up out of traffic). But I really appreciate the offer!

Posted by: rnellums Jul 17 2011, 06:11 PM

So I have been looking at some of the cars here in the midwest and I found one that might be a really nice find. Its a incredibly original 74 2.0L with 67000 original miles. it is a two owner car and had spent the last 20 years inside a garage, but has been started up and driven four times a year. it is factory painted a custom color-the owner says it is a 911 color, it is a very light metallic green. it has some surface scale in a few tiny sports. some of the undercoating on the bottom of the floor pan seems to be peeling off, but there doesn't seem to be structural rust. I looked VERY thoroughly. he is asking 8k for it.
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he also has a black dealer-resprayed 1975 911s coupe in similar condition to the 914 (65000 miles) that he is asking 10 for.
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Is the 914 a good deal?
is the 911 a better deal?
will I be ostracized from the 914 community for buying a 911?

Help please?

-Ross

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 17 2011, 06:33 PM

Unless the 911 has a documented engine rebuild (with case savers and other good stuff) stay away from it. The original engines are known for breaking relatively easily, especially when fitted with the thermal reactors the 76-77 cars (maybe some 75s?) had.

--DD

Posted by: rnellums Jul 17 2011, 06:53 PM

Definitely no engine rebuild. The car is all original equipment. The engine would likely need sorting out from sitting so long. What would be a fair price?

Posted by: mepstein Jul 17 2011, 07:02 PM

Get a real PPI before you buy a 911. Then you'll know what you have to work with.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 17 2011, 07:21 PM

PPI?

Posted by: eric9144 Jul 17 2011, 07:24 PM

Pre purchase inspection -- worth every penny!

Posted by: rnellums Jul 17 2011, 07:27 PM

How do I get that? I think the fuel system should be gone through before it is started.

Posted by: brant Jul 17 2011, 09:18 PM

1976 is kinda the worst year for a 911
those 2.7's can have pulled head studs easily
the 1976 year was one of the worst due to the heat created from the emissions system.

and sitting isn't too kind on them.
I think bruce anderson recommended a top end rebuild on those heads with the 1976 thermal reactors at an early mileage (was it a 60,000 recommendation?)

Posted by: rnellums Jul 17 2011, 09:42 PM

That is the impression I am getting too. It is actually a 75', but it is the same engine. and it is seeming like even if it had just had the engine professionally rebuilt, 10 is still too high for it.

Posted by: brant Jul 17 2011, 09:51 PM

a "professional" rebuild on a 911 motor can mean lots of different things... but can easily run 6-10K just for the motor
so certain years of cars are worth getting running as is, but may not be worth rebuilding.... (used transplants yes, rebuilding the stock motor not so much)

My belief is that this is why the hobbyist have taught themselves (well!) how to do rebuilds

Posted by: mepstein Jul 18 2011, 04:40 AM

A professional rebuild should have professional paperwork. imho.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 18 2011, 07:37 AM

This 911 certainly has the original engine, and it is in unknown condition. It ran when it was parked 20 years ago.

Posted by: Scott Schroeder Jul 18 2011, 09:25 AM

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It ran when it was parked 20 years ago.



so did I...........

Posted by: Ferg Jul 18 2011, 09:42 AM

If the 911 has pressure fed tensioners and a 11blade fan there is a good chance that it's had the updates.

But sitting that long and being CIS expect to spend 3k to get it driving again, BTDT.

p.s. I somehow missed that you got hit in the black car, WTF, sorry dude.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 18 2011, 11:35 AM

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If the 911 has pressure fed tensioners and a 11blade fan there is a good chance that it's had the updates.

But sitting that long and being CIS expect to spend 3k to get it driving again, BTDT.

p.s. I somehow missed that you got hit in the black car, WTF, sorry dude.


Thanks Gint,
It has an 11 blade fan and was bought from a dealer in 1983. The owner doesnt know anything about tensioners or a previous engine rebuild. He says the engine does turn over and has good compression, but he didn't want to start it on account of all the old gas. I have heard that those injection systems go bad if they sit for too long.
This car would need to have
am I missing anything?

Posted by: Ferg Jul 18 2011, 12:08 PM

I'm not Gint shades.gif laugh.gif

Add CIS fuel dizzy to the rebuild list. As well as fuel accumulator.

What color was it before black? Really at 10k and not running I would pass, but if the cosmetics are nice enough, it's worth the effort at a lower price.



Ferg

Posted by: rnellums Jul 18 2011, 02:10 PM

Yikes! that's what I get for speedy typing while I'm at work!

It was originally orange, but the dealer painted it black. It is painted inside the trunk and door jambs, but is flaking a bit under the hood and the door jambs. the interior is immaculate and the body is pretty much flawless. I'm not sure of where to check for rust in particular like I am on 914's, but the floors seem clean. Everything is on the car, it is very complete, and the chrome trim is gorgeous.

Posted by: Ferg Jul 18 2011, 02:28 PM

I'd likely low ball him, document what you think it's going to take to get it running, show him the $ estimates and see if he's of the real world. Cash talks...

I'd shoot for 6k.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 18 2011, 02:30 PM

Buy the 914. You'll be money ahead when you get your settlement and buy yours back for salvage.

Posted by: eric9144 Jul 18 2011, 02:37 PM

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It's going to take less money to get the 914 together than the 911 by a big margin...with the way the prices are going these days and the fact that the 911 is a 75/76 I'd venture to say that not only is the 914 a better purchase now, but also a better investment in it's future value for the money you'll need to invest in it.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 18 2011, 03:31 PM

I told him earlier today that I am definitely going to get his 914 piratenanner.gif , which I feel like is a good deal with the money, especially since the parts it might need-i.e. brake lines/master cylinder/clean gas tank can be cannibalized from my totaled teener. the question is whether or not to get the 911 too, or to buy another super sweet YELLOW teener!
I can't wait to get my hands on that original car though!


Posted by: Ferg Jul 18 2011, 06:52 PM

If you pass on the 911, pm me his number sunglasses.gif

Posted by: rnellums Jul 19 2011, 07:17 AM

I'm keeping his number as secret as I can until I pick up my 914! I dont want anyone stealing it from under my nose! biggrin.gif I'll probably try to pick it up this weekend. Pictures will follow.

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 19 2011, 12:38 PM

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 19 2011, 09:17 AM) *

I'm keeping his number as secret as I can until I pick up my 914! I dont want anyone stealing it from under my nose! biggrin.gif I'll probably try to pick it up this weekend. Pictures will follow.



congrats- good to see you found a nice replacement- Hope it all works out.

did you settle on $ with the insurance yet?

but certain"yellow teener" are we speaking "Zonker"?-- if so- do it!!!!!!!

pjw..

Posted by: rnellums Jul 19 2011, 12:55 PM

I settled on monday. Insurance's first offer was just over 16. I took it.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 19 2011, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 19 2011, 11:55 AM) *

I settled on monday. Insurance's first offer was just over 16. I took it.


That sounds pretty fair. Congratulations on a reasonable outcome. What was the buyback $$ on your car?

Posted by: rnellums Jul 19 2011, 01:08 PM

buyback was 1700, which seemed a little steep, but still well worth buying it back

Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 19 2011, 01:10 PM

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buyback was 1700, which seemed a little steep, but still well worth buying it back


Given the size of the settlement, I don't think that was out of line.

Posted by: Ferg Jul 19 2011, 01:33 PM

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I'm keeping his number as secret as I can until I pick up my 914! I dont want anyone stealing it from under my nose! biggrin.gif I'll probably try to pick it up this weekend. Pictures will follow.


Smart man shades.gif When you pick up the teener, shoot me some pics of the 911??

Is this the color of the teener? Ice green Metallic...




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Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 19 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 19 2011, 05:17 AM) *

I'm keeping his number as secret as I can until I pick up my 914! I dont want anyone stealing it from under my nose! biggrin.gif I'll probably try to pick it up this weekend. Pictures will follow.


Smart man shades.gif When you pick up the teener, shoot me some pics of the 911??

Is this the color of the teener? Ice green Metallic...


That is a spectacular color. new_shocked.gif

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 19 2011, 02:01 PM

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I settled on monday. Insurance's first offer was just over 16. I took it.

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thats great!!!! now go get that zonker( for racing) and the barn find!!!

Posted by: rnellums Jul 19 2011, 02:12 PM

Thats the color exactly!!!! I had been looking for it! What is the Zonker going for these days?

Posted by: rnellums Jul 19 2011, 03:35 PM

Scratch the last, I realized I had a search button! The Zonker is amazing!, but my 6'4" frame hardly fits in a stock car, nevermind racing seats and a cage! What a steal though!

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 19 2011, 03:43 PM

I am planning on buying the Zonker......in a few years when I am making real doctor money.....because it will still be for sale poke.gif

Posted by: rnellums Jul 19 2011, 03:44 PM

Oh, and Ferg, the 911 coupe was no 100 built in 1975

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 19 2011, 03:45 PM

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Scratch the last, I realized I had a search button! The Zonker is amazing!, but my 6'4" frame hardly fits in a stock car, nevermind racing seats and a cage! What a steal though!

I know what u r saying. At 6'2" im ok but barely. But I put in 911-993 seats.

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 19 2011, 03:54 PM

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I am planning on buying the Zonker......in a few years when I am making real doctor money.....because it will still be for sale poke.gif

If I didn't have a kid in college I would have bought it already.

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 19 2011, 03:56 PM

It is the IFs that keep it for sale wink.gif

Posted by: rnellums Jul 23 2011, 11:53 AM

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Posted by: eric9144 Jul 23 2011, 12:02 PM

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Wow! Absolutely beautiful! That color is amazing...have only seen it one other time and it was on a 356 Speedster.

It looks amazingly clean too...what did you do on the 911?

Congratulations, that car is sweet!

Posted by: rnellums Jul 23 2011, 12:19 PM

Nothing on the 911 yet, I am going out to yosemite, CA next week for vacation, and since the 911 will have to be trailered, I didn't have an opportunity to make arrangements. if it is still available in three weeks I may buy it, but I will have my hands full with this car replacing all the old engine rubber.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 23 2011, 01:39 PM

That is a seriously cool and unusual combination. I'll bet the COA would be very interesting. Nice recovery from a nasty situation.

Have you been to Yosemite before? Amazing place. Be sure to enter the valley through the tunnel. If you come into the valley by way of Tuolumne Meadows, turn right when you get to the valley floor and climb back out of the valley, through the tunnel, then turn around and go back again, through the tunnel. The entry view is spectacular.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 23 2011, 01:42 PM

Body colored bumpers on that car would look amazing. JMHO

Posted by: kconway Jul 23 2011, 01:48 PM

C'mon! Seriously nice car and color...makes me want a second stock looking non-flared car. That is a really nice car, congrats!

Posted by: rnellums Jul 23 2011, 02:18 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jul 23 2011, 11:39 AM) *

That is a seriously cool and unusual combination. I'll bet the COA would be very interesting. Nice recovery from a nasty situation.

Have you been to Yosemite before? Amazing place. Be sure to enter the valley through the tunnel. If you come into the valley by way of Tuolumne Meadows, turn right when you get to the valley floor and climb back out of the valley, through the tunnel, then turn around and go back again, through the tunnel. The entry view is spectacular.


Truth be told I have been there every year starting at 9 mo. but usually only to the meadows. the hike to the top of half dome is pretty spectacular though!

Posted by: dlee6204 Jul 23 2011, 08:02 PM

Spectacular looking car! I'm jealous wub.gif

Posted by: porsche_dreamer Jul 23 2011, 08:50 PM

Looks awesome! Congrats.

Posted by: rnellums Jul 24 2011, 12:43 AM

Thanks for the congratulations everyone! Now I just have to name it and start a new documentation thread for that car and say goodbye to this thread.

Posted by: Gint Jul 24 2011, 10:00 AM

Looks like a nice ride Ross.

That 911 would just be a money pit.

Posted by: abnrdo Jul 24 2011, 10:42 AM

wub.gif I like that car!

Posted by: majkos Aug 16 2011, 08:08 PM

Dam, for a rocket sciencetist< sp?

You did good. That "Ice" green is more rarer than ANY L.E's

Great, great awesome find!


Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 16 2011, 08:29 PM

Man that is a nice clean car. Best wishes with that and I look forward to seeing what you will do with it. Many safe miles to you.

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 16 2011, 10:51 PM

Dude that thing is yummy! drooley.gif That tan interior is the perfect match! aktion035.gif

Posted by: rnellums Aug 17 2011, 06:33 AM

I LOVE it so far. I am starting it's own build thread-the calypso build thread. Everything is just so CLEAN inside.

Posted by: THE STIG Aug 28 2011, 03:48 PM

I saw this thread a few days back and was taken a back by the factory color. Would have never believed it type of deal, but today I looked at a 1970 parts car, and I was shocked to observe the late type crash bar doors, a pair in this exact color. Yours is at least one of two. Very cool color, great car. I had only seen one other PORSCHE this color to date, an 84 944.

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