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Posted by: Lennies914 Feb 12 2011, 08:04 PM
It's time for new rear trans mounts. Looking at PP, they offer two 911 sport mounts, one from Germany and one from Rein Automotive. Both the same price. Is one any better than the other? They also offer a solid mount kit. Does anyone have any pros or cons on these?
Thanks in advance for any input.
Posted by: 914Sixer Feb 12 2011, 08:16 PM
I think the solid is for racing only. Solid would be really noisy for street use I would think.
Posted by: DanT Feb 12 2011, 08:23 PM
solid mounts on a street car would be pretty noisy along with adding some harshness to the overall driving experience.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 12 2011, 08:27 PM
Richard Parr printed a diatribe on how they ruin everything on the planet.
Posted by: kg6dxn Feb 12 2011, 08:28 PM
I made soild mounts for my last V8 conversion. The noise increase was not bad but it was a V8. I kept breaking poly 911 mounts just by letting the clutch out at idle. The car I have now uses Renegade mounts. They are mostly soild with a square chunk of very high durometer poly.
Posted by: degreeoff Feb 12 2011, 08:30 PM
Well my $.02 is they are loud but then again everything on my car is loud and it is damn near a race car.........but drivability is good as they make for a SOLID shifting car!
josh
Posted by: Lennies914 Feb 12 2011, 08:46 PM
Well I'm not looking to create problems from vibration. Are the 911 sport mounts firmer than the originals? A happy medium sounds good.
Thanks again
Posted by: kg6dxn Feb 12 2011, 08:48 PM
Well I'm not looking to create problems from vibration. Are the 911 sport mounts firmer than the originals? A happy medium sounds good.
Thanks again
The 911 mount are an upgrade from the 914. Go for poly!
Posted by: J P Stein Feb 12 2011, 08:50 PM
I like the WEVO's.
They work best if ya tighten up the big bolt. 
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Posted by: Lennies914 Feb 12 2011, 09:01 PM
I like the WEVO's.
They work best if ya tighten up the big bolt.
Who sells these?
Posted by: kg6dxn Feb 12 2011, 09:20 PM
I like the WEVO's.
They work best if ya tighten up the big bolt.
Who sells these?
Wevo
Google them. they are in the Bay. Menlo Park? Palo Alto?
Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 12 2011, 09:29 PM
I have 350+ rear wheel HP with solid mounts on both the engine and transaxle. My car has solid shifting and instant throttle delivery/power to the ground. I don't know what rubber mounts have to do with noise. The rubber mounts are a vibration isolator.
Posted by: Lennies914 Feb 12 2011, 09:36 PM
I like the WEVO's.
They work best if ya tighten up the big bolt.
Who sells these?
Wevo
Google them. they are in the Bay. Menlo Park? Palo Alto?
Thanks Mike, That Google thang works purty good for that
Those are definitly nice, but I guess I'm on the 914 budget, not the 911
Posted by: J P Stein Feb 12 2011, 09:38 PM
WEVO makes front mounts also ...if you're in the market.
Rick.
Industry came up with the acronym NVH to lump things together. Nuclear subs
believe in it, shouldn't we?
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Posted by: 396 Feb 12 2011, 09:54 PM
Well my $.02 is they are loud but then again everything on my car is loud and it is damn near a race car.........but drivability is good as they make for a SOLID shifting car!
josh
Well...said
Posted by: Britain Smith Feb 12 2011, 10:02 PM
Don't go solid...stick with the WEVO mounts and you will be very happy.
-Britain
Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 12 2011, 11:49 PM
911 Sporto mounts are the best, economical upgrade from the stock units. I always use them and am very happy overall. No complaints 
Posted by: tomh Feb 12 2011, 11:53 PM
sport mounts,the only way to go
Posted by: markb Feb 13 2011, 12:02 AM
911 Sporto mounts are the best, economical upgrade from the stock units. I always use them and am very happy overall. No complaints
Posted by: underthetire Feb 13 2011, 01:27 AM
Sport mounts here to.
Posted by: Britain Smith Feb 13 2011, 02:03 AM
I disagree...the Sport mounts where never intended to be mounted in the hanging orientation that the rear transmission mounts are positioned. The WEVO mounts were specifically designed for this application. In addition, the feel of the WEVO mounts is noticable over the sport mounts and are not that much more expensive if I remember correctly.
-Britain
Posted by: dion9146 Feb 13 2011, 09:03 AM
Reading this thread with interest because I've been running the solid tranny mounts in my 6 for a long time. As a matter of fact, I was using these same mounts in my first 4 cylinder 914 fifteen years ago. They have just followed me from car to car. Mine are the solid 'plastic' Welts I think.
I'm running 911 sport mounts up front, and I like the combo. The car shifts great but I have no idea if it is louder. It's a 3.2 with a hollowed 2 in, 2 out muffler. I can't hear much anyway. 
Posted by: Lennies914 Feb 13 2011, 09:42 AM
Thanks for all the input. Wevos are certainly nice mounts but they are $60 more per unit. I ordered up some sporto's.
Posted by: nsr-jamie Feb 13 2011, 10:10 AM
Looks like I am too late but I have solid aluminum tranny mounts from HPH (High Performance House) and those work nice...I didn't notice any extra noise or vibrations and the shifting has slightly improved or feels a bit more direct and I like it. Price was good too and easy to install.
Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 13 2011, 10:12 AM
I don't get the "louder" reference.
IMHO- Rubber mounts are civilian and designed to take up vibrations for a smoother driving experience. The reason for changing them to a more ridgid material is rubber ones break during hi-po driving. They are not designed for extreme stress.
I have always run solid mounts on all my hotrods. I had a friend bust a turbo 350 transmission case once by running a solid transmission mount and rubber engine mounts.
Sporto mounts have been used as a substitute for years. There are many other options.
Posted by: kg6dxn Feb 13 2011, 12:02 PM
I don't get the "louder" reference.
Any vibration above 20Hz transfers into noise. It's physics
Posted by: whatabout1 Feb 13 2011, 12:33 PM
I was told to use the same stiffness mounts for engine and tranny.
The logic was, if you use solids on your tranny and softer ones on the engine,
any flexing of the driveline will be absorbed at the tranny intermediate plate.
The tranny inter plate is a weak point already.
I have no idea if it's true but makes sense. Sport mounts all around for me.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 13 2011, 02:09 PM
My 9lebbin tranny was mounted incorrectly and it was N-O-I-S-E-Y. With a solid mout a "tremendous" amount of gear noise was transmitted through the body into the cabin. So much so, I thought I had a bad throwout bearing or a bad clutch.
Rick, a V8 6" from your noodle may have something to do with it. That and the tranny being in the rear.
I've vote stock (if you can find some in decent shape) or sport mounts. for a street driven car. I see the load on the 911 mounts the same as it would be if they had an engine hanging off them in a 911... I haven't dug in that deep though. 
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 13 2011, 03:01 PM
911 Sporto mounts are the best, economical upgrade from the stock units. I always use them and am very happy overall. No complaints
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