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Posted by: jeff Apr 29 2004, 08:32 AM

Patrickmotorsports seems to be a well organized shop and responded to my question by mail within two day . Ill only be buying parts because ill do most of the installation myself any feedback?

914-6conversion
e30 m3
2800cs coupe
ducati 900sp :

Posted by: Mueller Apr 29 2004, 08:38 AM

It seems to be one of those shops that you either swear by, or swear at

I've heard good and bad, it depends on how your luck is and what your tolerance level is.

Posted by: East coaster Apr 29 2004, 08:45 AM

I've only had minimal experience with PMS, but it's been a good experience so far. Jim Patrick has been very helpful in answering questions and the few parts I purchased were of good quality and shipped promptly.

Good luck with your project!

Posted by: jeff Apr 29 2004, 08:45 AM

Like a crazy girl with a velvet pussy?

Posted by: ! Apr 29 2004, 09:10 AM

THEY SUCK

Posted by: drew365 Apr 29 2004, 09:12 AM

I've bought several items from them and had only good experience. It can be tough to speak directly with Jim but when I did I got the info and parts I needed. They followed through on promises for a part they had to build before shipping and I made my track event.

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Posted by: Part Pricer Apr 29 2004, 09:21 AM

The parts that they supply seem to be first rate. However, I would check here first before purchasing a particular part. As always, this group will mostly provide specific, candid feedback. You will also get some unsubstantiated bashing.

I know of a couple of people that have had very good experiences dealing with them.

Posted by: seanery Apr 29 2004, 09:44 AM

Patrick's prices are high and his attitude sucks. I've purchased parts from them. Then I asked him for info on one of his cars. His only response was "What are you going to buy?" What a dickmunch!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Apr 29 2004, 09:49 AM

Jim has always been straight with me. *Some* of his parts are VERY nice.. some leave a little on the table. He does great work (most of us do if you pay us).


B

Posted by: pcar_914_6 Apr 29 2004, 02:13 PM

I ordered from them about 5 years ago while constructing my 1974 3.6L conversion.

Jim and one of his techs spent a goodly amount of phone-time with me during the project and helped a lot. Spending money does buy you that, naturally. I made a lot of my own parts as well since I like to make my own stuff but Jim's gear works well.

The help was appreciated since there weren't very many of us 3.6L folk back then and nobody was writing anything about those specific conversions. Especially Jim, who was making at least some of his living doing them.

I only had a problem with a cracked (later redesigned) motor mount at Memphis Motorsports Park. That, and a mis-wired harness were the only issues during a year or so of various and sundry part orders.

I was dissapointed that he didn't replace the engine bar sight-unseen but to be fair, he offered to look at it if I would send it back. I had an event that weekend and didn't have time to do it but I welded a larger fillet-web onto the piece and it has been fine ever since. The only casualties were the forward shifter rod, which was bent downward at the firewall by the 993 engine hammering it and the firewall bushing. The shift coupler was OK... don't ask me how.

Plain and simple if I do my homework and learn from everyone, then stop engineering and build the thing it always works and I tune it later... but only if it's needed.

Good Luck,
Ron

Posted by: James Adams Apr 29 2004, 02:23 PM

Hi Ron, good to see you here!

Posted by: ! Apr 29 2004, 02:34 PM

Posted by: dakotaewing Apr 29 2004, 02:36 PM

Hey Ron -
It's about time you showed up here!

Thom

Posted by: Brad Roberts Apr 29 2004, 03:13 PM

I spoke with Ron on the phone today and said: "hey man.. where are ya ??"

For those of you in Arkansas... Ron is our HPH rep.


B

Posted by: seanery Apr 29 2004, 03:33 PM

and Ron has a supersweet ride!

Posted by: East coaster Apr 29 2004, 05:07 PM

Ron, Post pics.........Those of us tackling a 3.6 conversion need inspiration!!

Posted by: seanery Apr 29 2004, 05:27 PM

here's a teaser:

Posted by: vsg914 Apr 29 2004, 05:32 PM

Hey Ron, I had the misfortune of following you at 2 MUSR's now,(damn that thing is fast). Guys and gals, It don't get much better than this!

Curt

Posted by: campbellcj Apr 29 2004, 09:31 PM

I have not yet done business with Patrick, but it boils down to: if he has what I need and nobody else does, then attitudes matter very little. To me, getting a correct, high-quality part at an acceptable price is what matters more than personality.

I can however attest to the sickening level of detail and performance of cars his shop has put out after seeing some of them at track events. The guy seems to do nice work, to put it mildly.

Posted by: Qarl Apr 29 2004, 09:51 PM

I've had nothing but good experiences with Patrick Motorsports.

Posted by: pcar_914_6 Apr 29 2004, 10:26 PM

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the greetings! The MUSR's have been super and I've made long-term friends at those darned things for the past five years. Can't stop showing up.

I've been doin business with Rich since '95 before I moved to Arkansas from Pacifica. It makes sense for Brad to be there because Rich and Larry took great care of me before I knew a thing about Porsches other than I had to have one. Sounds like a good team to me!

I actually didn't know about this forum until I called Rich one day and Brad answered. I was understandably bewildered at the greeting 'cause he sure didn't sound like Rich... and it wasn't even late at night. I recovered.

How come you guys have better pix of Penelope than I do? I have to fix that!
I actually have a bunch of "in-progress" pix that are not truly organized and culled. Processed, they may be instructive to anyone so bent as to want to cut up a perfectly good car but I'm certainly willing to share the experience.
That's a pretty simple car after all.

To be fair that picture from Hot Springs doesn't show that I had the absolute DIRTIEST car on the lot! So many nice cars... I love those gatherings and will gladly come to western ones when time allows.

Anyone coming to Parade in Fort Worth this year? Jan Mayo, Ed Mayo's super 914 autocross drivin' wife is the organizer and Ed has cranked out the tech quiz this year.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 29 2004, 10:42 PM

Posted by: Mike9142.0 Apr 30 2004, 01:09 AM

I have nothing but good things to say about Patrick Motorsports.
I live less then 3 miles from his shop and Jim has been very helpfull over the years I have known him. When I was rearended in my 70 Jim helped with parts prices and a value for the car to help with dealing with the insurance co. Jim has been very willing to answer all my questions. All this and I have never bought any thing from them. Have not spent one penny with them. Thay do have some nice part and the cars that thay put out are very nice.