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Posted by: itsa914 Apr 29 2004, 08:36 PM

I know this car was talked about before but I have a question. In the June issue of excellence there is a story on a slightly modified 75 914. One of the things done was to remove the backpad and just use black carpet behind the seats. From the magazine photo I can't really tell if I like it or not. Has anyone here done this? Got pics?

- Garold

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 29 2004, 08:38 PM

JP stein did this i believe..... looks better imho

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 29 2004, 08:43 PM

JP stein did this i believe..... looks better imho

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 29 2004, 08:44 PM

Dunno if it looks better, but it sure is loud in there


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 29 2004, 08:46 PM

id use something like dynamat behind it..... maybe that would work. looks very cool tho.

Posted by: lmcchesney Apr 29 2004, 08:47 PM

I pulled mine out several years ago and replaced it with a adhesive insulation material with Al foil shelding. It has adhered well. I can't say how much it decreased heat transfer or reduced noise. It is covered up well by the upholstery. I am trying to work out an agreement with a manufacture of a aersol/liquid insulating product to evaluate for use as a firewall insulating. It is still in the initial stage, but if you would be interested as being another test car, let me know. My agreement with the company is that they supply the material free and assist with evaluation.
L. McC

Posted by: Martin Baker Apr 29 2004, 08:50 PM

I used DynaMat Extreme on both sides of my firewall. Much better, and keeps it a little cooler as well. I was a little concerned about the weight, but the whole box only wieghed 20 pounds, and I used about half. Little pricey, but worth it.

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 29 2004, 08:54 PM

The back pad weighs 10 lbs or less, but the rubber mat comes in at around 25. Weight removal was my priority, but the inner wall was too ugly to be left uncovered & too much of a PITA to strip to bare metal/paint.

Posted by: itsa914 Apr 29 2004, 09:09 PM

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 29 2004, 09:48 PM

Loud?

Sounds like the hounds of hell are fighting to the death, overlaid with the fat lady Webers doing the aria, all bout a foot behind your ear.....not too bad, really

Posted by: scotty Apr 29 2004, 10:00 PM

Eh? ...what'd you say? ...speak up...can't hear you...the engine's too loud!

I can't understand why there's a radio in the thing...I can't hear it except at stoplights.

It's not quite as loud with the top off.

Posted by: seanery Apr 30 2004, 05:48 AM

I would leave it in a street car. Lose it on a dedicated track/ax car.

Posted by: nynone4 Apr 30 2004, 09:28 AM

Garold -

I've been considering doing the same thing to the 914-6 in my garage (with the fixed passenger seat like yours). The car isn't so nice that the loss of a backpad will effect the value. By the way - I have pics of your car in my driveway from back when Adam still owned it. I'll see if I can dig them up and post them for you. Nice car - and a ton of fun to drive with the European pistons. Glad to see it ended up with someone who can appreciate it!

Matt

Posted by: itsa914 Apr 30 2004, 09:37 AM

Matt

That would be great. The only thing I have done to it is put Fuchs on it. It is a great car! Needs a little body work & Paint but very very solid!

I like the carpet look, but my car is loud enough for me the way it is. Maybe in a few years after I get enough seat time I can build(or buy) nice track car then it won't matter.

If you see Adam tell him and that the "Go Kart" is doing great.



-Garold

Posted by: djm914-6 Apr 30 2004, 10:02 AM

I made my own carpet set including covering the firewall. I also stripped out all of the soundproofing. I like the sounds personally, but I wouldn't waste my time installing a radio. I'll try to post some pics tonight.

Posted by: 3liter914-6 Apr 30 2004, 10:13 AM

Posted by: scottb Apr 30 2004, 10:19 AM

i really dig the clean interior look of losing the back pad. i am thinking of gutting my car of the back pad, console and anything else to achieve that look. i am the only one who rides in the thing so i don't care about the noise......

that is until i get that v8

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 30 2004, 11:24 AM

Dynamat pics?....lessee...in here somehere....ah. We gots those.


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Posted by: dmenche914 Apr 30 2004, 10:55 PM

i've seen to many 914 rust out at the bottom of the fire wall, from the engine side because of water and leaves trapped between the exterior pad and the metal. Never saw this rust on the early cars without the exterior pad.

The interior pad will absorb some sound, and it looks nice (my opinion). The pad behind the interior pad (glued to inside of fire wall) does dampen sound, and I frankly would leave it in a street car,

I did have a car that i pulled the floor pads out of, down tot he painted metal, but htats because the car leaked in the rain, and I wanted the floor to dry out between storms, made the car a little noiseier, but probably not as much noiseier than if i removed the fire wall inner pad.

Other wise it is personnel preference., but on all the newer cars i have had, I removed the exterior pad on the fire wall because of my rust concerens (and every one had the rust starting out!)

dave

Posted by: Gint May 1 2004, 12:50 AM

I'd like to see pics of any car with the backpad removed (and you alternate solution for covering the bulkhead) with the rest of the interior installed. Anybody have some?

Posted by: thesey914 May 1 2004, 05:21 AM

I like the carpeted backpad look too. I have driven for 2+ hrs @ 80-90mph up to Leicester with no back pad or floor mats. It IS noisy and I used ear plugs. Lots of superbike riders use them too because of the wind noise

Posted by: maf914 May 1 2004, 08:26 AM

Gint,

I think Scott (?) with the white Martini paint scheme car has posted photos of his interior in the past. He did a nice carpet job on the rear firewall. Might be in the archives.

Mike

Posted by: djm914-6 May 1 2004, 01:16 PM

Mine isn't great, but it was affordable. The Rubber floor mats don't look to bad either, but I need to remove them after I get caught in the rain. Now I need to get CFR to weld on some new fenders.


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Posted by: djm914-6 May 1 2004, 01:17 PM

behind seat...


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Posted by: djm914-6 May 1 2004, 01:18 PM

Kinda messy with engine mount bolts and such but not noticable with the loud pedal down...


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Posted by: djm914-6 May 1 2004, 01:20 PM

Mats, and "custom" carpet. The good, the bad, and the ugly.


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Posted by: SirAndy May 1 2004, 04:43 PM

Posted by: Duffster May 1 2004, 06:35 PM

Just in the process of fitting the carpet. We used the center section of the back pad because it could be notched to fit the diagonal member of the roll bar. The center section between the seats would be the place most likely to conduct the sound, IMHO. (Don Kravig notched the firewall for the diagonal when he built the bar so the center section would fit and I could get the seats to go back far enough to clear my equator). The exterior of the firewall was stripped and painted when the weld-in mount went in... didn't feel that I needed the 14 pounds of rubber as a source of potential rust. I can't hear the radio anyway with that six-hole howl going on right behind my ear! Pictures to follow, when I can figure out how to get them posted.

Posted by: SirAndy May 1 2004, 06:42 PM

no carpet yet, still trying to figure out what material to use.
i should be "non-flammable" for sure ...

here's a pic:


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Posted by: SirAndy May 1 2004, 06:42 PM

nuther:


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