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Posted by: Cupomeat Mar 30 2011, 08:07 AM
Nurburgring Nordschleife 70 Adenauer Forst Crashes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwc54G2Ur8
914 sighting at 3:35.
I am not a fan of crash videos, but with all this vintage steel, I was unable to stop watching. 
Posted by: iamchappy Mar 30 2011, 08:45 AM
The convertible bug save full of passengers is insane....
Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 30 2011, 09:03 AM
Always a good one... This is already posted on the site though. Johannes posted this to Youtube.
Posted by: Cupomeat Mar 30 2011, 09:51 AM
Always a good one... This is already posted on the site though. Johannes posted this to Youtube.
Sorry, I did a quick search, but I guess I used the wrong criteria.
Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 30 2011, 11:30 AM
Always a good one... This is already posted on the site though. Johannes posted this to Youtube.
Sorry, I did a quick search, but I guess I used the wrong criteria.
As I said, always a good one... I am not sure where Johannes found it. Hard to believe that some judicial authority wouldn't have shut them down with all that carnage. I saw a couple that could have been fatal. The one with the collapsed roof and fully engulfed in flames, and the one where the person partially ejects and then smacks their head against the roof as they are propelled back toward the car.
Nurburgring is a public road with a toll so... Any idiot...
Posted by: biosurfer1 Mar 30 2011, 12:04 PM
Obviously the 2nd 914 hadn't seen prior crashes because he pulls off the road to almost exactly where every other crash happened
Posted by: thelogo Mar 30 2011, 12:30 PM
who were these drivers , evil kenevil 's in training ?
but you got to give it to the 914's , they kept smoothest of all with no rollovers
911's forget about it , tails came right around . they guys who just spun were the lucky one's !!! ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: Cupomeat Mar 30 2011, 12:42 PM
Yes, crazy that SOMETHING wasn't done to prevent all the crashes, but I have little knowledge of the situation.
The 2 914s did well without spinning, and only one of the 911s might have suffered damage as it went over the hill. You are right about pulling off the road in the exact WRONG place.
The VW beetles (T1) were the worst of the lot. As most were swing axles (as it was 1970 and they went to IRS in 69), they had little chance to recover from such a slide/spin. I didn't expect so many roll overs on the beetles, however.
Now, the ejections and partial ejections made my stomach turn each time. The one girl who popped out of the window, then back in before the car came around and would have crushed her was SO lucky. GO SEATBELTS!
Posted by: Mike914 Mar 30 2011, 03:55 PM
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The 2 914s did well without spinning, and only one of the 911s might have suffered damage as it went over the hill. You are right about pulling off the road in the exact WRONG place.
The VW beetles (T1) were the worst of the lot. As most were swing axles (as it was 1970 and they went to IRS in 69), they had little chance to recover from such a slide/spin. I didn't expect so many roll overs on the beetles, however.
... GO SEATBELTS!
My fave is the 914 taking the racing line, right across the dirt, and just right on back to the road.
The Type 1's are really bad, but the Type 3's did OK.
It's Click it or Ticket around here...
Posted by: SirAndy Mar 30 2011, 04:08 PM
Not exactly ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring
And while i'm busting your chops, it's called "Nürburgring".
Note the "Burg" which translates into "castle". "Berg" translates into "hill". Not quite the same ...
Just FYI, that video is NOT from a race. Nothing you know about racing applies here.
Anyone with €20 can take their car for a spin. AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Posted by: biosurfer1 Mar 30 2011, 04:17 PM
Anyone with €20 can take their car for a spin.
And it seems that is EXACTLY what a lot of them did...I figured it was any yahoo in most of those clips because usually when a race car flips, luggage and groceries dont come flying out with the driver
Posted by: johannes Mar 30 2011, 04:26 PM
... I am not sure where Johannes found it.
Unfold and read the video description ...
Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 30 2011, 05:54 PM
Not exactly ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring
And while i'm busting your chops, it's called "Nürburgring".
Note the "Burg" which translates into "castle". "Berg" translates into "hill". Not quite the same ...
Just FYI, that video is NOT from a race. Nothing you know about racing applies here.
Anyone with €20 can take their car for a spin. AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Ooops. I corrected the spelling for you. I said it badly but that is what I meant. Not that it was a public thoroughfare but that it was open to the public for a toll.
Posted by: veltror Mar 31 2011, 09:13 AM
The VW beetles (T1) were the worst of the lot. As most were swing axles (as it was 1970 and they went to IRS in 69), they had little chance to recover from such a slide/spin. I didn't expect so many roll overs on the beetles, however.
Err no they did not go IRS, it was made with swing axles untilit stopped production Automatics and US cars together with 1302 1303 models were IRS the rest stayed swing axle...
Posted by: Cupomeat Mar 31 2011, 10:05 AM
The VW beetles (T1) were the worst of the lot. As most were swing axles (as it was 1970 and they went to IRS in 69), they had little chance to recover from such a slide/spin. I didn't expect so many roll overs on the beetles, however.
Err no they did not go IRS, it was made with swing axles untilit stopped production Automatics and US cars together with 1302 1303 models were IRS the rest stayed swing axle...
Wow, thanks for that correction. I guess Ralph Nader forced the IRS in the US while Europe got the old stuff?
I know the 80s mexican beetles were IRS, but that doesn't apply here.
Posted by: veltror Mar 31 2011, 01:13 PM
Sorry wrong again, mexican chassis was swing axle till the end of production...
Posted by: Cupomeat Mar 31 2011, 01:18 PM
I'll just say nothing but, My error...
unless I am wrong about that! 
Posted by: veltror Mar 31 2011, 05:02 PM
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Posted by: underthetire Mar 31 2011, 05:25 PM
Uh? i'm lost now. My 69 T1 was IRS for sure. Here is even an article on our forum about the CV joints.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=112433&mode=threaded&pid=1387182
Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 31 2011, 05:27 PM
Hey Eric...
WRONG!
Posted by: bigkensteele Mar 31 2011, 07:59 PM
Thanks for posting. Now, I can scratch a 2002 off my bucket list.
Posted by: veltror Apr 1 2011, 02:57 AM
Uh? i'm lost now. My 69 T1 was IRS for sure. Here is even an article on our forum about the CV joints.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=112433&mode=threaded&pid=1387182
Err, there is a big difference in what the US had and what the rest of the world had. Beetles had IRS on automatics, 1302, and 1303 models everything else was swing axle even mexican and Brasillian cars. The US had IRS after the Nader safety nazi fiasco...
therefore the majority of the world had swing axle...
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