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Posted by: retrotech May 18 2004, 10:43 PM

I am curious what weight diferance there might be between the many variations.
From different model years, in stock configuration, and asst. 6 conversions, to 918's.

Posted by: Mike9142.0 May 18 2004, 10:50 PM

My 73 2.0 with front and rear sway bars weighed in at 2230 pounds.
That was with tools, spare parts and other small things in the car.

Posted by: campbellcj May 18 2004, 10:55 PM

My former 73 2.0 was 2142lbs in street/stock configuration, wet w/o driver.

My current car was 1949lbs last time it was weighed, also wet w/o driver, but I've changed about a zillion things since then. IIRC it needs to be 2049 to be POC class legal, so therefore that's how much it weighs now

Posted by: 3liter914-6 May 18 2004, 11:10 PM

My 1970 914-6 3.0 with front oil cooler and fiberglass bumpers/rockers weighed in @ 2440lbs with driver and 1/2 tank of gas on the CAT scale at the truck stop. I think I weighed around 220lbs back then, and I'm not really sure how accurate the truck scales are with lower weights. So ~2200lbs.

Posted by: airsix May 19 2004, 01:21 AM

Wow. Sounds like my car is a fat pig! (for a -4)
2240 lb. wet, no driver, NOTHING in the car.

'73 1.7
944T phonedials 7x16, 8x16
Dunlop SP8000 225/50-16, 245/45-16
no spare tire

-Ben M.

Posted by: ArtechnikA May 19 2004, 04:54 AM

from 914 Spec Book (1st Edition - May, 1974 - so no heavy '75 or '76 data ...)

DIN curb weight: 2139 lbs

from 914.6 owner's manual -- DIN curb weight: 2068 lbs

i just read 'em folks, not interpret 'em.
that's what it shows - 914.4 30 Kg more than a /6...

i don't believe it, and i don't have a 914.4 owner's manual to see what they claim there. (but i can verify that the US and Euro /6 owners' manuals agree, within a couple of Kg...)

Posted by: synthesisdv May 19 2004, 05:29 AM

this chart is my corner weights from our first race at sebring with me in the car.

has 8 pt cage and full steel bodywork and bumpers.

i can probably lose another 100lb getting rid of steel hood, trunk, and bumpers.

dr


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Posted by: crash914 May 19 2004, 05:46 AM

My '73 weighed in at 2130.. That is with targa top, race seat, passenger seat, fire wall carpet, nothing else in trunks, etc...Oh yes, includes a full roll cage.

Posted by: lapuwali May 19 2004, 09:12 AM

The '70-'72 -4 weighed less than the '73-'74, which weighed less than the '75-'76. The -6 presumably used the lighter early chassis, so that compensated some for the heavier engine (75-150lbs, depending on which numbers you believe).

Remember that a full tank weighs 100lbs more than an empty one. Car and Driver listed 1950lbs for a '70 1.7 in their first review in 1970, probably with an empty fuel tank.

On weight loss, my memory of 5 years ago had the front and rear trunk lids at 30lbs apiece, with replacement fiberglass ones at 10lbs each. Chrome bumpers were 35-40lbs each, with 5lb fiberglass replacements. 100lbs would be close.

Posted by: brant May 19 2004, 09:21 AM

If memory serves... the bumper savings is not as significant as that.. I believe that my stock early style bumpers were 22lbs, and fiberglass were 11lbs.... (I'm sure 75-76 would be more though)

Chris, at your posted figure.. did you have glass lids?


b

Posted by: Joe Ricard May 19 2004, 07:19 PM

74 2.0L with carbs no interior, Empis, 2 Corbeau forza seats. fiber glass front and rear bumpers and valances 1950 lbs
70 1.7L no carpets little more than that but may be lookng at a diet. Given I tip the scales at 154.5 I already got you guys beat.

Posted by: SirAndy May 19 2004, 07:27 PM

you know the difference between european pounds and american pounds, do you?
when converting KG to pounds, make sure you don't just double the number (which is the european way) but instead multiply it with 2.20462 ...

Andy

Posted by: URY914 May 19 2004, 07:41 PM

Should I really answer this???

What you see below is a 1973 -4. Still has steel rear fenders and targa bar.

It is 1,528 pounds


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Posted by: ChrisReale May 19 2004, 08:35 PM

Yours doesn't count

Posted by: vsg914 May 19 2004, 10:34 PM

Posted by: synthesisdv May 20 2004, 04:32 AM

hey paul,

where'd your car go?

dr

Posted by: dmenche914 May 20 2004, 01:27 PM

so they shrink when you wash them????

Posted by: ArtechnikA May 20 2004, 01:36 PM

actually, the DIN curb weights in the references i quoted are 914.4 970 Kg, 914.6 940 Kg.
the 914.6 owners' manuals showed a difference of a couple of Kg between the US and Euro.

(i still don't believe a '70 914.6 is 30 Kg lighter than a comparable /4, but i don't have a 914.4 owners' manual to check, and there is no 914.6 Spec Book ...)

mostly when i convert i multiply by 2,2 and leave those last few grams to the wind ...

Posted by: TimT May 20 2004, 01:51 PM

Mines a 3.2/6 it weighs 2050, and has a full cage. Still has metal lids. Soon to get Pauls nifty doorskins (Ill cut out the door beams then). Im probablty going to get glass lids soon, Ill rescale it after all that stuff is installed..

Posted by: Rgreen914 May 20 2004, 08:10 PM

ArtechnikA

From a "914 1.7/2.0 Owner's Manual Model '73" (USA/CANADA)

Unladen Weight 2139 lbs (970 kp)
Maximum payload 550 lbs (250 kp)
Total permissible weight 2690 lbs (1220 kp)

Posted by: silver2.0 May 20 2004, 08:21 PM

I just weighed mine a few days ago. It's a 70 914 with a 2056, 2.0 motor out of a 74. It has no sound deadening material, was weighed with a full tank of gas, and no driver. 2042 lbs.

Posted by: ArtechnikA May 20 2004, 08:29 PM

well -- lessee -- '73's got door beams that '70's didn't have, but i'm still having a hard time explaining 914.6 curb weight of 940 kp vs a /4's 970 ...

Posted by: Otmar May 21 2004, 08:19 PM

I'm making up for Paul.
Mine is 2980 lbs. But that was before I pulled out the unused shifter, shift rod and center console, saved 11lbs wow!

800 lbs of that is batteries...

Posted by: Andyrew May 21 2004, 08:24 PM

Otmar, I would think that by now you would have taken your trunks out and put solar pannels in by now....



Just a thought.

Posted by: Otmar May 21 2004, 08:39 PM

You don't get much from just the trunk and hood, maybe a few miles range per day. I put them on my house instead


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