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Posted by: OmaPossu May 2 2011, 12:29 AM

Hello,
This is a thread about late hours in my garage trying to get 1970 914-6 back to life.

There are already hundreds pics in here:
http://www.harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/

One question, what are these holes for? Spot welding?
http://www.harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Interior/Purku+1.5.11+009.JPG

Posted by: 9146986 May 2 2011, 06:06 AM

I don't know for sure, but my guess is those holes are for when they dipped the bodies at the factory.

Posted by: carr914 May 2 2011, 06:26 AM

I've got a box of the covers for those holes somewhere

Posted by: RFoulds May 2 2011, 12:49 PM

Are the flares steel or fiberglass? What is the serial number? I am constantly trying to find my old one.

Add the serial number to the database please!

Posted by: Jeffs9146 May 2 2011, 01:00 PM

9140472344 It is in the data base under my name Jukka bought it earlier this year! I also sold him some steal flares to replace the fiberglass ones!!

Posted by: Ferg May 2 2011, 01:08 PM

Just had a guest at the house from Finland Great cook!

Posted by: SirAndy May 3 2011, 11:45 AM

That would be my guess ...

Posted by: OmaPossu May 3 2011, 01:28 PM

Then to the biggest problem of this car. Drivers side front corner has some signs of past accident. It's been repaired badly. It's more than inch up and and bent little right too. That can be taken care with "celeste bench".
Front boot floor has some bad crinkles (right word?) and inner fender is not right shape. How to take care these?
Some pics there: http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Front+boot/Problem/

Posted by: SirAndy May 3 2011, 01:50 PM

The celette bench will get the basic attachment points back to factory specs.

The wrinkled sheet metal will need to be replaced or hammered back to where it belongs.

I'm in the same boat with my original /6. Tons of sheet metal that needs replacing or massaging. A good automotive body guy will know how and what to do.

Posted by: Drums66 May 3 2011, 04:55 PM

...WELCOME to the world
keep at it!

Posted by: OmaPossu May 18 2011, 11:58 AM

I found some numbers in trunk floor.
132045

Karman chassis numbers? Or what?

Posted by: SirAndy May 18 2011, 12:06 PM

Yes, that's the chassis number. Also usually written with crayon on the backside of the dash sub-frame.

Posted by: carr914 May 18 2011, 12:11 PM

Rear Trunk, correct - that is the Chassis #

Posted by: OmaPossu May 18 2011, 01:00 PM

From where I can check it's correct one for this car?

Posted by: SirAndy May 18 2011, 01:30 PM

A quick search using the keywords "+chassis +number" got quite a few results, including the one below.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=116615

Posted by: carr914 May 18 2011, 01:53 PM

I find it hard to imagine anyone would try to change that number - most people don't even know it's there. And I've seen them in at least 2 different spots

Posted by: Jeffs9146 May 18 2011, 02:04 PM

I did research on this over the years and it does have the correct numbers for a 1970 914-6 as it is discribed in the link Andy posted!

Notice the chassis number is 2045 and the vin number is 2344 so they are within 299 chassis!

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 13 2011, 09:01 AM

Behind this link is pic of two kind of front brake heat shields.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20II/Disassembly/Suspension/Front/Front%20brakes.JPG
Which is right for -70 914-6?

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 13 2011, 09:40 AM

the left one

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Nov 13 2011, 11:20 AM

It is the one on the left and the part# is 914.351.801.00!

The one in the parts catiloge only shows 5 holes around the center in the photo but I would guess that is just to represent the differences!

Posted by: Rob-O Nov 13 2011, 11:33 AM

The holes in the floor are definitely for the arms of the spot welder to get into position. For instance, think about the center tunnel and how it's welded to the floor pan. Also the cross members were spot welded and those holes would've been used for that as well.

Our 914's were never dipped for paint (or anything else). That technology wasn't widespread in factories until after the 914 was out of production.

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 17 2011, 01:23 PM

From here
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Suspension/Purku+23.3.2011+003.JPG
to
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Finished+parts/Suspension/17.11.11+006.JPG
Slowly going on..

Posted by: clow Nov 17 2011, 02:19 PM

Wow the front steering/suspensions looks great!
I am interested in following this project!


Cheers,

Clow

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 27 2011, 12:53 PM

One question (not my car), are all 2,0l four cylinder 914:s with D-jetronic? With extra point's in distributor?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Nov 27 2011, 06:51 PM

Originally, yes.

Only the 1.8s were not D-jet from the factory.

--DD

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 3 2011, 02:53 PM

How to protect cleaned nuts and bolts against rost? How did those came from factory?
I am not sure whats right word but "yellow galvanizing" or something like that perhaps?
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Finished+parts/Steering/Steering3.12.11+007.JPG/full

Posted by: Niklas Dec 3 2011, 02:56 PM

They are all yellow cromated.
In swedish - gulkrommaterade.
I have a list of all the parts you need.
I can send it to you.
I can show were to buy it in germany.

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 3 2011, 03:20 PM

Niklas, please send info to me.
In finish language "keltapassivoitu"

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 6 2012, 12:59 PM

And now pedals. From here
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20II/Disassembly/Pedals/Poljinkoneiston+purku+1.1.12+005.JPG
to here
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Pedals/Pedals+6.1.12+007.JPG
new bushings ofcourse.

Slowly..

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 7 2012, 11:09 AM

Can you send me that list and address, Niklas?

Posted by: -JR- Jan 9 2012, 01:11 AM

Unrelated, but I love the Quattro there too!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 9 2012, 01:14 PM

We have 5 months winter here in Finland and got to have some 4wd fun some times

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 13 2012, 02:37 PM

Little progress again, from here

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Vipers/Purku+7.1.12+009.JPG

to here

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Vipers/V%E4kerryst%E4+13.1.12+008.JPG

Every now and then I wonder why I am spending my time doing this! Time and a lot money! It would be so much easier to just buy good 914-6 and do this with it

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/Audi+quattro+-85/20.+Summer+-09/Nordschleife/T9F_1967_HR.jpg

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 23 2012, 01:17 PM

What does this "B2." mean? It's in steering wheels center pad.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20II/Disassembly/Steering/Steering%20wheel/Steering+wheel23.1.12+005.JPG

Posted by: Andyrew Jan 23 2012, 01:25 PM

No clue. Love the Coupe Quattro though!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 23 2012, 02:09 PM

Btw it's called Audi Quattro here in Europe (Coupe quattro is without turbo engine and has narrow body).

Posted by: Andyrew Jan 23 2012, 02:20 PM

Good to know! Regardless its one of my favorite Audi's.

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 24 2012, 12:40 PM

What is right colour to steering wheel metal parts? Satin black?
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu%20II/Disassembly/Steering/Steering%20wheel/Steering+wheel+24.1.12+001.JPG

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 27 2012, 08:31 AM

I think between steering wheel and horn pad should be something "elastic"? What?




I got new pictures of my previous project, -71 914 1,7. These pictures were in local magazine Klassikot about year ago. Nice pics

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu/2010/Klassikot+311/

Posted by: toolguy Jan 27 2012, 09:54 AM

check the Karman number against your transmission number. . On my six they match. . and I'm 400 units before your number. .

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 27 2012, 12:19 PM

How? Where?

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 27 2012, 12:57 PM

The transmission was updated to a side shift long ago!

Posted by: skota Jan 27 2012, 01:30 PM

Nice collection of cars you have there! well done!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 27 2012, 01:48 PM

Changed or updated? I think it's possible to rebuild tail shift to side shift, am I right?

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 27 2012, 01:51 PM

Kotajarvi is Finish name and you have quattro so you must be allmoust relative

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 27 2012, 02:08 PM

When we talked about it I was sure it was changed due to the serial number on the trans!

Here is one of the e-mail conversations
2011/1/26 Jeff Tuck <jeffs9146@yahoo.com>

I do not know anything about the original transmission! It was swapped out before I got it and the person who sold it to me didn't know anything either! I would try to get a COA and see if the transmission number is listed! There was a guy keeping track of all 914-6's in the USA and I spoke with him once. He told me the car was sold in Palo Alto so you may be able to call the dealership and get some history?? (just a thought!)

Don't forget to put fluid in the transmission before you install it!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 27 2012, 04:38 PM

This:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/PEL_search.cgi?command=show_part_page&please_wait=N&make=POR&model=9144&section=MISCLL&page=9&bookmark=44&part_number=901-347-823-01-M100

--DD

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 28 2012, 04:57 AM

Yes, so it was!
Sorry, english is not my main language! I'll ask another way, if I have tail sift gearbox can I change it to side shift without changing transmission case (shell)?

I'll asked Finnish Porsche dealer to find out my transmission number but nothing come out. Have to ask direct from Zuffenhausen.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 28 2012, 10:13 AM

Yes you can!

You need a side shift tail cone with parts, shifter plate, shifter, shifter bar and bushings.

I'm sure the good Dr. has more detail but that still wont make it a numbers matching transmission!

The number on the 914-6 transmission starts with 914/01!

http://www.blueskymotorsports.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17&Itemid=6

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 28 2012, 12:54 PM

Thats good to know! Now I can tell my friend, who bought my ex 914, that he can change that crappy old tail shift to side shift without buying new transmission! Or would it be easier/cheaper to buy used side shift trans?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 28 2012, 11:33 PM

Easier, yes. Cheaper? Not sure.

To change from the tail-shift to the side-shift setup, you not only need to change the transmission (or modify the tail-shift one), but you also need a complete later gear-shift linkage, including all of the rods and even the gear shift lever itself, plus the motor mount bar and all of the mounting hardware for that bar.

--DD

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 28 2012, 11:36 PM

Except he has a factory 6 so the Motor Mount is not an issue!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 29 2012, 02:30 AM

Jeff, I wrote about my ex 914 (1971 1,7), not 6.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 29 2012, 09:12 AM

Oh!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 29 2012, 01:00 PM

I found this number on the side shift transmission in my 6


914.301.101.00

I did not found anything with this code. To what model it belongs?

Posted by: Niklas Jan 29 2012, 01:10 PM

I think it is for a 1972.

Niklas

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 29 2012, 01:20 PM

Along the top of the transmission stamped into the ridge there should be a number! I remember seeing it I just don't remember what it was except it was not 914/01!

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 29 2012, 01:20 PM

Double post


Attached image(s)

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 29 2012, 01:21 PM

Along the top of the transmission stamped into the ridge there should be a number! I remember seeing it I just don't remember what it was except it was not 914/01!

Here is a photo of a 914-4 stamped serial number and a 914/6 stamped serial number!

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 29 2012, 01:32 PM

What's going on with the web site today! If I edit it makes a whole new post??

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 29 2012, 01:42 PM

Ok, I'll check the transmission numbers next time I visit garage.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 29 2012, 05:28 PM

You might want the contact this person they have alot of what you need!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-914-6-technical-forum/654354-what-these-what-they-worth.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-used-parts-sale-wanted/654351-914-6-sway-bars-etc-914-parts-914-6-a.html

Posted by: OmaPossu Mar 27 2012, 01:29 PM

I was starting to clean up oiltank and found this little crack. It is in upper part of tank.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Oil+tank/Oiltank27.3.12+011.JPG
Should I solder it or just leave it like that?

How to paint tank, how was it after it left factory?

Posted by: OmaPossu Mar 29 2012, 03:20 PM

Naked body
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Soda+blasted/Blasted29.3.12+015.JPG

Posted by: OmaPossu Mar 31 2012, 01:14 PM

Where is all the rust? Very little rust in this 6-body
Okay some accident repair and welding has to be done!

Posted by: OmaPossu Apr 1 2012, 10:13 AM

Is this oiltank copper? What is this paint then? It does not weight as much as copper should.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Disassembly/Oil+tank/Oil+tank+028.JPG

Posted by: Niklas Apr 1 2012, 12:00 PM

That was not so much work on your body.
Looks easy !! 1-2weeks work.
I think you should epoxypaint the body as soon as possible.

The oiltank is cooper coated so it will not rust.
why don't you powdercoat it? Satin black.

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Apr 1 2012, 12:38 PM

Its soda blasted so it is not so hurry with painting.

Do I have to take copper away before powdercoating? Its rust free and copper layer is solid. What paint would stay on copper?

Posted by: Niklas Apr 2 2012, 12:34 AM

No I think you just can paint it.

Posted by: OmaPossu May 16 2012, 06:08 AM

Just got all four fenders from Restoration Design, sail panel repair piece from 914-teile and shake hands for a deal with Lithuanien restoration shop. Body is going to Riga for straightening and welding and painting

But what is the colour...

Posted by: Mr.242 May 16 2012, 08:54 AM

I had my oil tank specialty coated with a covering (gloss black) that helps PULL heat out or a distrubtion heat coating. It looked very good and in concept it can't hurt to help pull some degrees out from the oil.
I think the color came out nicely and I'm all for using new technology on these cars that was not around in 1970.
Here is a look (crappy cell pic):


Used these people: http://www.performancecoatings.com/index2.html

Good Luck!

Posted by: OmaPossu May 17 2012, 12:00 AM

Interesting coating and looks good! I already painted my tank old way..

Can some body help me to show my repair shop how to make those back and front boot sprayed seam sealings? Need pictures to show! If pictures are from silver -6 cars the better. If you like to help, send pictures to my email, jukkapoh @ gmail.com

Posted by: OmaPossu May 22 2012, 12:38 PM

Enough fenders?

Posted by: OmaPossu May 30 2012, 12:48 PM

Damn, deal with Latvian shop went off They drag price up and up..
Back to begining. Motivation do not disappear.

Posted by: Niklas May 31 2012, 04:56 AM

Sorry for that.
It is expensive to do sheetwork on cars in Scandinavia...
The best is to do it yourself:)

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu May 31 2012, 10:39 AM

May be I am waiting for you, Niklas, to do the welding

Posted by: Niklas Jun 1 2012, 02:07 PM

Sorry but i don't have the time.
I have two 914 and two vw pickups and one beach buggy to get ready
The beach buggy will be ready within a week or so.

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 1 2012, 02:18 PM

I made new deal today with local welder/painter
Only problem is that he does not have "celette bench" but I can arrange that elswhere.
It's going to cost little more than in Latvia but...
Relieft!

Posted by: Niklas Jun 24 2012, 11:57 AM

Do you really need a bench to the body ??
You can cross meausure the body.
Have you measured it ?

Posted by: Niklas Jun 24 2012, 11:59 AM

What is the cost to fix the body....??

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 24 2012, 12:29 PM

Niklas: I have not measured it properly but drivers side front corner seems to be 3-4cm up. Thats 1,5 inch. After celette bench I am sure its straight!
Maybe Jeff has an opinnion about this?

4k€ for velding and painting in Finland. Cheap in Finland, expensive elswhere..

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 24 2012, 12:32 PM

..btw I bought used whole drivers side inner fender and front trunk floor from Germany. Costs delivered 200€.

Posted by: 914Timo Jun 24 2012, 01:16 PM

Keep up the good work. Hope everything will go fine with the new welder.

Posted by: 914Timo Jun 24 2012, 01:17 PM

double post

Posted by: Niklas Jun 24 2012, 03:07 PM

4000 Euro for paint and rust fix is very cheap!!!
Normal price for paint a vw bug in my area of sweden is 2000 Euro.
I think you have got a good price!

Niklas

Posted by: Niklas Jun 24 2012, 03:11 PM

that was very cheap!!!
I payed more for my front trunk floor from Holland.

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Jul 27 2012, 02:09 PM

Somethings happening at last! Body is now in Autorobot (Celette bench) and straithning begins next week. It is not straight, now its easy to see.

http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Autorobot/

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 17 2012, 11:52 AM

At last something is happening in body shop
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Autorobot/Welding/kuva%2812%29.JPG

Body is straightened and now working with fenders, after that front truk floor

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 17 2012, 11:57 AM

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 18 2012, 01:50 AM

Are the any official dimension for door gap's? I did not find any previous threads conserning this?

Posted by: Niklas Nov 18 2012, 03:25 AM

I think the official porsche gap is 4 mm.

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 22 2012, 02:18 PM

Proceeding fender by fender
Frame is straightened, bouth step panels repaired, bouth back fenders are repaired, right door hinge panel is straightened and moving on..
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Autorobot/Welding/263.JPG

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 25 2012, 01:53 PM

About colour, my cars original colour was L96D or 80. How much L97A differs from that? Bouth are metallic silver paints. Pictures?

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 7 2012, 12:39 PM

It begins to look like a car
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Autorobot/Welding/Welding7.12.12+003.JPG

Is this local way of making wind shield frame strenghtening kit? Found all 3 bolts and ton of glass fiber inside frame..
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Autorobot/Welding/Welding7.12.12+008.JPG

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Dec 7 2012, 12:44 PM

Where were those???

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 7 2012, 01:00 PM

Just there where picture shows ;)There was 1 inch diameter hole in wind shield frame and those bolts and lots of GF was squeesed inside from there...

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 8 2012, 05:26 PM

Need pictures under rocker panels. Need to know how this lip and upper part of rocker panel meets. Is this lip straight all the way from back fender to front fender. Are there differences between year models?

Posted by: silver74insocal Dec 8 2012, 05:45 PM

is it also adding exclamation points to all your statements!?!

j/k

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 9 2012, 10:00 AM

How to clean this? Have any one used ultrasonic cleaner?

Posted by: Niklas Dec 9 2012, 03:09 PM

Show us a picture of this rocker panel.


Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 9 2012, 03:44 PM

I don't have rockers yet.

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 12 2012, 11:54 AM

Thank you Brad, front lock panel arrived yesterday and is now in body shop!

I still need picture from front fender and rocker panel joint area!! Anyone? I dont have original rocker panels yet and we have to weld this lip to bottom of front fender.

All four fenders are in place and only thing to repair is bottom of front boot, looking quite good now

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 1 2013, 08:44 AM

All major bodywork is done now just some fine tuning in seams and filling some holes.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Autorobot/Welding/Velding+30.12.12+009.JPG
Then tothe amazing world of seam puttys and sealers..

Posted by: gms Jan 1 2013, 11:32 AM

Looks great, glad you were able to get the front panel from Brad!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 11 2013, 11:58 AM

Hi, seems to be that my project is moving to paint shop this week
Question: how to paint bottom and inside fenders? How have you done it or how was it done by factory?

Posted by: Socalandy Jun 11 2013, 06:22 PM

my -6 after media blasting showed me that it was undercoated and then painted body color. My thread has a lot of pictures of what we did.

You mentioned earlier you wanted to get your COA to search for your transmission number. After several conversations with them I was told that info was not recorded on the Cardex and was not on my COA. Your making great progress and congrats on saving another 914 always ready for more progress pictures!!

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 25 2013, 12:20 AM

Has -70 914/4 and /6 same relay board cover?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jun 25 2013, 08:55 AM

Nope, they're different. I don't have a picture handy, though.

--DD

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 25 2013, 10:47 AM

So this is not good for my six:
Ersatzteilnummer: 914.610.111.13

Then I am bidding wrom item..

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jun 25 2013, 06:41 PM

The catalog in PDF calls for one of those for all 914s, but I thought it only fit the 914-4 models? It may be that the -4 version supersedes the -6 version even if it isn't quite right.

I do know the relay board is different. I could be wrong about the cover, though.

--DD

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 25 2013, 07:09 PM

The early covers have a hole for a hold down screw later do not

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 26 2013, 03:02 PM

I bought it so soon we know does it fit to -6 reley board. I'll let you know.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 26 2013, 07:05 PM

-4 and -6 covers are the same until Jan 72 when the reel type seat belts were installed. Jan 72 on the covers were slanted in the front to miss the seat belts anchor bracket on the rear wall. Dave is correct that the relay board are completely different.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 26 2013, 08:48 PM

evidently I was wrong after the slope style Porsche did away with the stud,


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 26 2013, 08:49 PM

It will fit even if not tech. correct= superceded

Posted by: OmaPossu Jul 4 2013, 01:11 PM

First picture in paint shop. Now I really need to decide the colour! Signal Orange, Tangerine or Metallic Silver... this is hard!

Posted by: cwpeden Jul 5 2013, 09:11 AM

One vote for Signal Orange

Its a combination of good handling : Yellow
Good Braking : Red

Posted by: Mr.242 Jul 5 2013, 09:38 AM

One Vote: SILVER!
Simply a staple for German cars!!!

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 7 2013, 07:58 AM

Slowly answered AG:

Your Porsche 914
Vehicle-Ident.-No.: 9140432344

Dear Mr. Pohjalainen,

Thank you for your e-mail from 1 September 2013.

Having checked our records we can inform you that your vehicle was originally painted silver metallic.

The complete vehicle, including the underbody and the wheel housing was undercoated. These parts were additionally equipped with a PVC coating, a protection against road stone and droning.

We hope that the above information is helpful and wish you ongoing pleasure with your Porsche 914.

Yours sincerely


Sandra Walz Katharina Hollatz


Porsche Classic
Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG
Porscheplatz 1
D- 70435 Stuttgart
Tel.: +49 (0) 711 911 27150


So, just PVC layer and then colour. No heavy undercoat to underbody. Ugh.

Posted by: porbmw Nov 7 2013, 09:20 AM

Slow down....you are going to finish yours before I get mine done....
Nice work!

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 7 2013, 02:51 PM

I dont think you have much to worry about that..

Posted by: porbmw Nov 7 2013, 03:31 PM

Um...
Yes...I do....but keep at it, it is inspiring.
Paul

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 8 2013, 06:46 AM

I was wrong, visited painter today and...
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/OmaPossu+II/Painting/201311081442133966.jpg

Hmmn, I have to finish my Quattro in two weeks so I have place for that in home garage

And now I have to decide colour!!!!

Posted by: 914Timo Nov 10 2013, 03:47 AM

Looks great !! Vote here for original color. Silver metallic is one of my favorites.

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 10 2013, 09:26 AM

Timo, 90% sure its coming to be metallic silver. But you never know..

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 18 2013, 04:55 AM

Going backwards, litle more welding needed. Or better weld..
I have a new guy welding this week. Painting continuos next week.

Posted by: OmaPossu Nov 18 2013, 05:03 AM

Cheap...
http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-914-6-1-hand-original-pappbrief-dt-fahrzeug-ahrweiler/185895792.html?lang=de&pageNumber=1&__lp=1&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&makeModelVariant1.makeId=20100&makeModelVariant1.modelId=9&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=6&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&negativeFeatures=EXPORT&noec=1

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 28 2014, 01:03 PM

Almost year in painter's hall, enough! Nothings going to happen. Reason is too bad quality in velding . I lost my nervs and took six away from there. In september it's going to "better" velder and then back to painter.
Bad thing is I have payed first velder for almost nothing..

Not so easy and all time.. now and and und

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 28 2014, 05:28 PM

Don't worry Jukka you will find a good body shop.
This clock was in an old friends body shop...he was a great craftsman, but slow!
Best to stay out of shops with this style clock
Marty

Posted by: OmaPossu Jun 28 2014, 10:37 PM

Thats a clock I need!! Still for sale somewhere?

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 28 2014, 11:41 PM

After Jack passed away, the clock became a family heirloom to his kids.
His body shop finally delivered a black '58 Speedster back to its owners; brought in 1977 and finished in 2014. The Speedster owners kids had written this car off as missing !

Posted by: bulitt Jun 29 2014, 04:42 AM

Well at least it was an accurate representation "while you wait"!

Posted by: OmaPossu Aug 10 2014, 12:52 AM

I found new guy who is welder and painter. He has a day job else where but good references. It would take some time but costs are going to be less than in professional shop takes. Looking cars he have painted quality looks good.

Lets hear he's offer..

Posted by: 914Sixer Aug 10 2014, 09:28 PM

It is fun again once you get back on track. You did the right thing by pulling out and finding someone new.

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 8 2015, 09:23 AM

Hello, for a long time.
Have done some restoration work to Audi V8 meanwhile..But now my repair guy called me and asked what color it shoud be He have done all metal work and now needs to do some painting inside cabin. At last!

So this is the time to decide The Color. I have toolguy's recepie for silver, that or original L96D. Original is a bit boring tone..
What do you think?

Posted by: KELTY360 Feb 8 2015, 10:10 AM

L96E Gemini Metallic Blue is unusual and looks incredible. Glad it's moving forward again.

Posted by: Niklas Feb 8 2015, 04:31 PM

Original colour so will the value stay high.

Niklas

Posted by: speed metal army Feb 8 2015, 11:25 PM

Agreed. I cant have my parts be part of anything but an original color six!

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 9 2015, 01:58 PM

Ok gents, I saw it today and it is allready silver
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/VW-Porsche+914-6+1970/Painting/Second+painter/9.2.15+002.JPG

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 22 2015, 03:29 PM

HaHaa, now I know which color my 914 is going to be painted. Not Silver.
Tangerine.
Common here but I have never seen one live in Europe.
Lets hope I like it

Posted by: Larmo63 Feb 22 2015, 03:37 PM

My first choice would always be the color that it left the factory as. My favorite 914 color is Adriatic blue.

Posted by: r_towle Feb 22 2015, 06:44 PM

Very nice job.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 22 2015, 08:18 PM

Jukka...good to see that you found a decent body+paint shop, you will be at Kars und Koffee in no time
Marty

Posted by: 914Timo Feb 23 2015, 11:26 AM

Can´t wait to see the color. Could you give us even a small hint

That would be "Autoja ja Kahvia" in Finnish

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 23 2015, 01:08 PM

Sorry to disappoint you all, this morning I called my painter and took it all back. Its going to be as original as it could be. Color is Silver (L96D).

Sure I am disappointed to myself, I was not able to do against my brain
But this only means that there will be third 914 and it has it all big engine, flares and Tornado Red painting

ps. askt painter not to answer my calls next two weeks so it's impossible to change my mind again..

Posted by: Niklas Feb 24 2015, 06:41 AM

Yes original is always the best.

Niklas

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 27 2015, 11:48 PM

I am a bit confused about color of -70 914-6 bottom. Should it be body color or what? Read all threads about it but could not be sure.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 28 2015, 08:42 AM

I believe body color is the way they left the factory. However, it appears that the color was not applied as heavily or evenly across the bottom. When mine is sprayed it will go body color as nicely as the exterior.

Posted by: OmaPossu Apr 27 2015, 01:41 PM

Tadaa, its painted and let to dry some weeks. Good time now because my new garage is not finished inside yet.
http://harrasteet.1g.fi/kuvat/VW-Porsche+914-6+1970/Painting/Second+painter/Finished/Possun+kotiutus+26.4.15+012.JPG

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 28 2015, 06:18 AM

That looks very nice. Nice to see it in color.

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 7 2015, 06:24 AM

Tadaa again. Repainted shell arrives week ago
But....some transporting damages to paint work. This is not real!!! Transporter was an idiot.

As you see:



Several points around body shell.

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 7 2015, 06:28 AM

Othervice I love the color


Paint surface polishing and then, at last, assembly starts! Where are all my parts...

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 7 2015, 07:09 AM

Looks beautiful. Can't wait to watch it as it comes together.

Posted by: OmaPossu Oct 17 2016, 12:45 PM

Hi, its been a while but soon begining with my six. I painted it one more time, this time properly. Color is still Tangerine, best for my taste!

Question: from where I find pics of original sound proof carpets (whats the right term?). And where to purchase original or close to original material?

jukka

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Oct 17 2016, 01:01 PM

Here are the original photos of your interior. This is the original. If you want "original" sound proofing you would want to replace with the tar floor stuff. Here in the US you can get something similar in the roofing section at our local hardware store. I didn't want anything that would retain moisture so I went with Dynamat on the floors and back firewall and then put the original back pad and sound pad back in.

Here is a recent discussion of the topic.http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=296743&hl=floor++tar




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Posted by: OmaPossu Oct 17 2016, 01:39 PM

Yes, it was pure fun to remove orig tar mat
Maybe Dynamat, just does not look original but helps to keep it rost free. As it is now

Jeff, do I remember right, did you change urethane bushings to rear links? If so, are original rubber ones still availeable somewhere?

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Oct 17 2016, 07:24 PM

Yes I replaced the rear with Poly bushings. I couldn't find any stock ones. You could try the Porsche Dealer, I hear they are starting to make classic parts again.

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 10 2017, 07:23 AM

Hello again,
I drag my Porsche body to open floor an started to look what shall I do next. To put floor tar back or not? It’s a car with gf roof so quiet it will never be, what ifI don’t put any sound proofing at all? How noisy it can be? Have anyone tried?
jukka



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Posted by: mepstein Dec 10 2017, 07:28 AM

The chassis looks great. The car will be louder without soundproofing but you could always add it later if you can’t bare to cover up the fresh paint just yet.

You don’t have to cover up all the paint. Just the large, flat sections that can vibrate. It can be made to look nice and neat.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 10 2017, 07:59 AM

I think you are asking for a lot of noise without doing something on the firewall and floors. I will in my car and suggest you use some type fo a self-sticking sound insulation pad, like Dynamat, to go on the floor and firewall. Perhaps inside the door shells too to keep them from sounding "tinny". http://www.dynamat.com/automotive-and-transportation/automotive-restoration/dynamat-xtreme/ Chassis looks very nice. Glad you are moving forward.

Posted by: campbellcj Dec 10 2017, 08:24 AM

My car has zero sound deadening or carpeting (or windows) and it is extremely loud -
earplugs advisable. I'm thinking about getting some removable rubber floormats or something for the rare times when I drive it on the street to shows etc. A rear trunk carpet kit might make a difference also. I would want some reasonable insulation in a street car.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 11 2017, 12:49 AM

Chris...I wonder if weather-tech can make you several of their floor / trunk mat sections, so you could throw these in for Street-Driving days ?
Maybe a street bolt-on muffler / take the place of the 2 megs ?
Marty

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 12 2017, 11:05 PM

Have you covered whole firewall or just some areas in middle?

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 16 2017, 05:01 AM

I start with this much.



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Posted by: 914Timo Dec 16 2017, 06:09 AM

Hyvalta nayttaa !! Looks good!!

Posted by: OmaPossu Dec 30 2017, 03:30 AM

Is there availeable new cabel set for -70 six? Or mint secondhand?


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Posted by: falcor75 Dec 30 2017, 04:31 AM

Kroon wire harnesses can make you a new one for a -6. They're not cheap tho.

Posted by: gereed75 Dec 30 2017, 09:26 AM

Jeff Bowlsby?? Oops, just checked his site -914/4 only, but I bet he knows everyone who might do the six harness

Posted by: Dave_Darling Dec 30 2017, 04:09 PM

Kroon. I think they're in the Netherlands, so closer to you. May take a while for them to make one, and they aren't cheap--but the wires will be all new which definitely cuts down on potential problems.

--DD

Posted by: SixerJ Dec 31 2017, 02:02 AM

https://www.kroonwireharnesses.com/porsche-914/porsche-914-6-1970

I seem to recall (somewhere on the world) like €3k spendy. Lot of man hours and I bet the connectors come to a fair amount too

Posted by: mepstein Dec 31 2017, 08:57 AM

Kroon only does the six harness. I sent him my 4 harness to copy and it took a year and a half for me to get it back. He decided not to make the 4’s. I can see this as a future project for 914 rubber. Maybe not now but one day.

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 6 2018, 12:05 PM

2800€ for 914-6 harness. Too much. I cleaned ant taped my old one, lets see if it works.

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 24 2018, 11:35 AM

Old harness is going in. Only cleaning and tapeing done.

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 24 2018, 11:36 AM

Where to find that rubber hose between black holes? Old one was kaputt.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Feb 24 2018, 12:42 PM

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Porsche-914-Wiring-harness-snorkel-tube-914-Rubber-Brand/302633731406?hash=item467660454e:g:cJoAAOSwNsdXSM3r

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 25 2018, 06:11 AM

Like to buy but not delivering to Finland..

Posted by: 914Timo Feb 25 2018, 06:49 AM

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Wiring-harnes-snorkel-tube-914ST.htm

He had send to me to Finland.

Posted by: OmaPossu Feb 26 2018, 12:28 PM

Thanks, I'll ordered that.
Btw Timo, do you have something that I should buy from you? If I remember right...

Posted by: OmaPossu Jan 22 2020, 09:11 AM

Hi again,

After one divorce and two move's now back to the garage and hobbies.
Question: where I can find Kardex for my 914-6? Some one told me name Dave Pateman but dont have mail addres for him. Is he the person to contact this kind of matters?

jukka