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Posted by: spare time toys Jun 7 2004, 11:28 AM

PASSAT W8 WITH TIP TRONIC??? WOULD THAT BE SWEET OR WHAT

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 7 2004, 01:05 PM

why would you want a tiptronic over a manual?

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 7 2004, 01:47 PM

I've heard great things about these new automatics. Apparently they shift at the right time and are faster than manual shifting. Has technology got us beat?
Felix

Posted by: brant Jun 7 2004, 01:54 PM

I think the trannys that out shift us are the manu-matics.. the full manual trannys with a computer operated clutch...

ie: SMG, and Ferrarri F1....

I don't believe the tip and other smart automatic trannies can out shift or do much better than a standard.....


b

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jun 7 2004, 01:59 PM

WHAT.




I don't like manumatics

Posted by: Mueller Jun 7 2004, 02:00 PM

a "tip" equipped 914 might be damn near unbeatable at auto-x if set up correctly.......I know the automatic 'vetts clean up pretty damn well compared to the manual cars.........

while the W8/tip would be fun, a Boxster S/tip combo would be easier I would think to swap into a 914 (and it would be a legal or approved swap in the eyes of PCA )

Posted by: Mark Henry Jun 7 2004, 02:03 PM

My dad's 1.8T Passat has a 5-speed auto and if you push the shifter to the right you can go through the gears manually.
Shifts seem positive and fast.

Posted by: peridotian Jun 7 2004, 02:04 PM

Drove a tip for the first time this weekend from LA to SF up the coast. VERY SMOOTH! Only problem I encountered was the owners manual caution about exceeding 4200 RPM during breakin !

Posted by: brant Jun 7 2004, 02:11 PM

Mark,

yep thats a tiptronic... VW took it from the Audi..
and porsche designed it primarily...

still its an automatic tranny (just has a computer to tell it when to shift gears)...

I believe that any tranny with a torque converter (automatic) is still showing a mechanical loss of power versus a manual. Manuals are still faster and more efficient... now a CV tranny might theoretically be a different story...

b

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 7 2004, 02:16 PM

AND

manuals are more fun

plain and simple

Posted by: thesey914 Jun 7 2004, 02:40 PM

I reckon the AUDI DSG twin clutch system ( new audi TT 3.2 ) has to be the brightest idea around at the moment. While you're driving in third it already has fourth engaged ready to swap.

Posted by: spare time toys Jun 7 2004, 02:59 PM

You have not been in a car when my wife trys to shift It would save ALOT of headachs because she could go play in it and I still sort of get to shift

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jun 7 2004, 03:18 PM

you let your wife drive?! j/k

get her one with an original autostick...

Posted by: Ctrout Jun 7 2004, 06:28 PM

Isn't the biggest advantage of the Tiptronic the ability to shift "manually" via steering wheel mounted buttons while negotiating difficult curves at high speed without removing one hand from the wheel?

Posted by: lmcchesney Jun 7 2004, 06:40 PM

Hummmm. Triptronic shifter. Manumatic. Shifter on the steering wheel. What does the Indy class and F1's use. My memory is sequental shifter for the right hand. Is that because of restrictive rules?

Posted by: seanery Jun 7 2004, 06:48 PM

Indy cars use sequntial shifters. F1 uses paddle shifters.

Indy cars are technology restricted.

F1 is almost an anything goes.

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Jun 7 2004, 10:48 PM

I know Steve Malm would like to try this also.