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Posted by: trent1542 Jul 9 2011, 11:37 PM

anybody ever try to do electric windows in their 914?

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 10 2011, 07:27 AM

Yup. Dr Evil had a long thread covering this several years back. I've have EWs for the past 3 years and really like them; especially when you want to open the pass side.

There are univeral kits ( Summit Racing IIRC ) available.

See: http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=48405&hl=


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Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 10 2011, 07:32 AM

Pics Dr Evil's install:


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Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 10 2011, 07:35 AM

Pic of my install:

At first, the window up/down speed seemed slower than I expected. Subsequently, I installed reversing relays inside each door to get more power closer to the motors. The original power source was routed through the switches; now, the switches activate the reversing relays.

The only challenge, was making sure I had the proper adapter to fit onto the 914 winder. Otherwise, an easy project, and you can keep your eyes on the road while adjusting the windows/air flow


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Posted by: 76-914 Jul 10 2011, 08:08 AM

Thx for that post Jim. I had asked the good Dr. if he would post a pic of his install but he said that the guy selling that kit had a shit fit about him posting pic's. It was a propriotory thing. I would damn sure buy one before spending hours trying to duplicate one. Mike had mentioned that his were a bit anemic. I wonder if he tried your relay approach, Jim. Btw, I got 3 survivors from those Butterfly seedlings. How long before they top out?

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 10 2011, 08:37 AM

They should be at least a foot tall by now and flower buds forming. I transplant mine into 5 gallon containers or plant directly into the ground; they have a substancial root system by the time they are 1 foot tall.

The reversing relays are the key; I had a 10 gauge wire running from the battery to a power amp in the front trunck already; so, I ended up with a plenty of power for the window motors. I would recommend making the window-lifting mechanism as free from friction as possible first, now that I've been through the install

Here's a pic of the reversing relay set up; it was pretty easy to do and they mounted easily in the door recess.


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Posted by: wingnut86 Jul 10 2011, 12:03 PM

...I liked what this gent did as well.

http://914electric.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/electric-windows/

He's in San Diego I believe.

He also has major OCD like me

wingnut86......

Posted by: markb Jul 10 2011, 12:41 PM

I have had a kit for sale in the classifieds for a while now.....

Posted by: trent1542 Jul 10 2011, 01:55 PM

thanks guys thats all the info I need for now I think.
And markb, I will try to find your post in the classified forum

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jul 10 2011, 02:02 PM

I'll have power windows in my 914, when I am too old and feeble to crank them down by hand. How fuchin' lazy do you have to be??

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 10 2011, 05:19 PM

the ones pictured in my door were anemic. The Spal ones are much better and MarkB is selling a set, IIRC. Theones Jim used are better as well. I used a cheapo universal kit and I got what I paid for

Posted by: davesprinkle Jul 10 2011, 05:28 PM

I recall a thread where some guy installed 911 window motors. Don't know where it is, though. (The advanced search options don't work correctly for me, sorry...)

Posted by: mcbrems Aug 16 2011, 06:31 PM

I'm actually in Los Angeles. Just finally upholstering my door panels and installing them. The added padding now makes the windows quiet as a breeze when they go up and down.

http://914electric.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/inside-the-yellow-door/

I try to manage my OCD so others aren't affected by it. Sometimes not so successfully. Thanks for the compliment, though.

Cheers - McB

Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 16 2011, 07:29 PM

Very nice workmanship ! How many seconds from open to close ? Did you install a pass window control on the drivers side ?

This is my favorite mod

Posted by: mcbrems Aug 16 2011, 07:34 PM

I'd estimate about 3 secs to go up or down. Yes, there is a set of double rockers for the driver door, to control the passenger window. I really like the feel of the switches, and the fact that they are illuminated.

McB

Posted by: mcbrems Aug 17 2011, 02:04 PM

Here is a picture of the SPAL unit in my driver door:



Seems pretty strong and consistent so far.

Here's the link to the install:

http://914electric.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/electric-windows/

Cheers,
McB

Posted by: charliew Aug 17 2011, 07:01 PM

I assume the black knob is under a flat door panel and has room to rotate without rubbing? The only thing that would worry me is how long the units will last. I would hate to need to re-engineer it again in a few years with a different type with the door getting rebutchered to fit a better design. My 63 jeep gladiator has had 65 caddy electric window complete mechanisms since 80 and they are still maybe a little too fast and smooth.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 17 2011, 07:18 PM

Are the Spals new and how many adapters did the kit come with

Posted by: mcbrems Aug 18 2011, 12:53 AM

The black knob actually protrudes through the door panel, and is covered with a cap that fits over the knob. They provide a few different height caps in the kit. Here's a shot of it:

http://914electric.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/door_panel_finished.jpg

Sure, it would look better if it was totally shaved, but this is the next best option. I don't think it looks too offensive.

McB

Posted by: mcbrems Aug 18 2011, 12:57 AM

Yes, I bought them brand new, and there were too many various sized spindle adapters provided to even count them. They came attached to a molded plastic tree, just like model airplane parts.

http://914electric.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/spal_kit-e1299477172163.jpg

McB