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Posted by: jsaum Jul 24 2011, 08:10 PM

I finally got around to digging into the engine noise from last year after driving the car for less than an hour around the neighborhood I experienced a squeal in the engine, most noticeable when I let off of the gas. I drove it straight home less than five miles and parked it in the garage. I pulled the transmission out today and found the fly wheel bolts came loose. I torqued them down again and checked my end play and found the I'm out of tolerance by .002. I know I torqued them when I installed the fly wheel because I made a tool to hold the fly wheel, but I didn't check the end play.
I drained the engine oil and found brass fines in the oil, not a lot but some. I'm wondering if I have wiped out the bearings or if I stopped in time.

Jsaum

Posted by: SLITS Jul 24 2011, 08:20 PM

Brass would be the distributor drive gear on the crankshaft getting eaten up as the crank moved fore and aft excessively.

Posted by: jsaum Jul 24 2011, 08:51 PM

That's what I was wondering if I caught it in time do you think the engine can be saved by adding the correct shim?

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 24 2011, 10:52 PM

That depends. If the play is in the shims, yes. If the play is the rear main thrust moving in the case, no.

The Cap'n

Posted by: Mark Henry Jul 24 2011, 11:00 PM

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To add to the krusty one's post only if the end play can be made up with 3 shims, if you need 4 shims you're fuched.

Posted by: jsaum Jul 24 2011, 11:09 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jul 24 2011, 10:00 PM) *

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To add to the krusty one's post only if the end play can be made up with 3 shims, if you need 4 shims you're fuched.


Then I might be o.k! I measured and I need .002 shim to correct the end play.

Jsaum

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 25 2011, 07:33 AM

i have a bunch of shims and the correct flywheel locking tool that makes the job much easier. let me know.

k

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 25 2011, 07:50 AM

.002 extra play isn't going to cause a squeal, IME.

The Cap'n

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 25 2011, 08:14 AM

if the flywheel was loose could the TO bearing get uneven pressure? could that cause the noise?

Posted by: jsaum Jul 25 2011, 09:32 AM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 25 2011, 06:33 AM) *

i have a bunch of shims and the correct flywheel locking tool that makes the job much easier. let me know.

k


Kevin,

Thanks that would be great, just let me know when is a good time this evening to come by and pick them up.

James

253-677-8330

Posted by: Drums66 Jul 25 2011, 11:54 AM

.....Look to your distributor for your squeal? idea.gif
bye1.gif popcorn[1].gif( i agree with the 4 shims Fuched)

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