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Posted by: street legal go-kart Jul 1 2004, 09:57 PM

somebody help me stop!
heres the scene
a warrm sunny day, typical cali weather.
the car , i mean THE car i have been looking for .
87 911 carrera second owner, female, classy , smart and knows what she is driving.
90,000 miles ,all service records ,original paint, clean, straight...
Sooooo i take MISS MARI to see the car.
I mean ,I dont even tell here where we are going.
She looks at the car and says," OK ."

Im smiling.
the asking price is 18,500 and I lost the web address for the pricing guide.
any one have it or know the valueof the car
I do not need another car so my 76 driver teener may be on the block
help

thanks in advance

JT

Posted by: lagunero Jul 1 2004, 10:05 PM

If it's THE car that you've been waiting for then BUY IT! If it's an investment then that 's another story. Be happy

Posted by: smg914 Jul 1 2004, 10:09 PM

According to Bruce Andersons "Market Update" in the August 2004 issue of Excellence, the value is as follows:

1987 coupe
Poor condition - $15,374.
Good condition - $17,480.
Excellent condition - $23,400.

Looks like the car you looking at is a pretty good deal.

Posted by: ! Jul 1 2004, 10:09 PM

That's about average....they have valve guide issues....if you have concerns have a PPI done and do a leak down and/or compression check. The earlier models have the 915 trans...this should have the G-50 right?

Not pink right...it's a manly color?

Posted by: Carl Jul 1 2004, 10:09 PM

JT,
If the car is as clean and as straight as you say, that's a good price. The 87 - 98 Carreras are the best of the SC/Carrera series, the longest lived, and the most reliable. The price seems like it's in the ballpark. A recent issue of Excellent had a review of 911 prices in this period.

As far as selling the 914, that's something to reconsider.

Carl

Posted by: street legal go-kart Jul 1 2004, 10:15 PM

we have a 86 sc w/288,000 miles and have never done any thing but basic stuff so i know the cars can endure.
i do not want to insult this person so my question is do i just write the check ?[something i have never done}or shoul i try to same a ducat or two?

jt

Posted by: street legal go-kart Jul 1 2004, 10:17 PM

thats' save a ducat or two'

Posted by: street legal go-kart Jul 1 2004, 10:19 PM

silver with black leather the way DR PORSCHE intended

jt

Posted by: Carl Jul 1 2004, 10:25 PM

It can't hurt to try to get a concession but, if you think the price is fair, pressing for a big price cut will probably lead to hard feelings.

I check comparable prices. If it's in the right range, then a good rule of thumb is to figure 10% is negotiable.

Carl

Posted by: street legal go-kart Jul 1 2004, 10:29 PM

ok Gents thanks for the input .
I gotta make a phone call .
pray for me.

jt

Posted by: boxstr Jul 1 2004, 10:36 PM

JT Buy It, you won't regret it. I have had an 83 SC CAB Platnuim metallic,dark brown leather, great car. Only paid $6500. recently sold for $17000. I also had an 84 Carrera Coupe triple black, wonderful car. Bought for $7500 and sold for $16500.
I am going down to Los Angeles July 18th to pick up a 1988 Carrera Coupe triple black, sport seats, sport suspension, 7x8 Fuchs, essentially a one owner car. $13500.
If you read the Market Report by Bruce Anderson you will find out that the 86-88 Carreras are the ones that are highly preferred over any of the others in the range of 1983 to 1988.
Good luck and let us know what happens.
CCLINCARRERACOUPE

Posted by: joea9146 Jul 2 2004, 04:42 AM

DO NOT BUY the car with out getting a PPI done by a good Porsche shop
in the area. DO NOT trust Car fax. You want to make sure this car is gone over
and you know what is wrong with it before you buy it. You want to make sure it
has never been wacked. This will also give you room to negotiate. Give her a deposit tell her you want it checked out and if anything major is wrong the deal is off and you want your money back. If lots of little stuff is wrong tell her you would like to negotiate from there. I would give her a $500 deposit. If she refuses to have the car checked out by a mechanic of your choice this should be a big red flag. Do not get caught up in an impulse buy that is a bad place to be. These cars can cost big $$$ to fix. Lots of guys on pelican have fallen into this trap car looks great they jump on it and are sorry once the smoke clears. Do not worry about insulting her this is business its your hard earned
money on the line here.

Good Luck

Posted by: Jeroen Jul 2 2004, 07:57 AM

With this mileage, be very carefull what you buy!
Like Zois already mentioned, 3.2s have issues with the valve guides
The alloy used for the guides is too soft and they typically wear out around 100 / 110K miles (so this one is close)
When they do (NOT if they do), you're in for a head rebuild... not cheap...

Keep it in mind, might be a good way to get the price down

Other than that, they are very nice cars. I had my '87 for almost 8 years.

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: boxstr Jul 2 2004, 10:05 AM

PPI definetely without question. I had one done on the car in LA and I was able to talk with the shop that has serviced the car from new.
Very good points made by others.
CCLINPPIOROUT

Posted by: Joe Ricard Jul 2 2004, 11:05 AM

SHOULD BE A NICE CAR. WHEN YOU WRAP A 914 AROUND THE ENGINE.

Posted by: RAR Jul 2 2004, 09:10 PM

Succinct advice here (not to mention one darn fine avatar). I wouldn't, however, give her a deposit--not necessary. There are lots of these out there, AND you seem to have buyers fever. I don't mean this rudely. Kick back a little and be more objective. I ended up with a great SC, but it was the third one I looked at. An engine rebuild is $8000 dollars or more. Has it ever been wrecked? High mileage is okay as long as there are no significant problems.

Get it checked out by a reputable Porsche specialist (this advice was worth repeating).

Posted by: street legal go-kart Jul 5 2004, 05:53 PM

good advice all.
the car goes to the Wizard on tuesday to be looked over.
i have looked at probably 50-55 cars in the last 2 years cause i knew we were going to have to replace the sc we have now.
this car is the only car i have considered except the teener i now drive. 76 914 2.0 straight original every piece and part in place.i bought it for $3000.
thanks for the $# it gives me a starting point

JT