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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ POLO Engined 914?

Posted by: 71six Aug 29 2011, 04:18 AM

Has anyone built a 914 with the Polo four cylinder engine made by Advance Performance Engineering? Looks ideal for a teener
Mark

Posted by: type47 Aug 29 2011, 05:08 AM

link to pics and info?

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 29 2011, 06:49 AM

http://www.advanceperformanceeng.com/about_us

It has been talked about in the past, when his engines were strictly 1 off pieces.

When I saw this thread I thought you were talking about the engine out of a VW Polo. I had to google Advance Performance Engineering.

I am guessing that they have all the $$$ features of a 6 conversion with 2/3rds the power of the 6 conversion. In other words, I don't see the point of it in a 914.

Zach

Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 29 2011, 09:55 AM

Oh, the Popolous engine! Yeah, those are really really cool. More expensive than a Six as I recall, and you still have most of the same issues you get with a Six. (Mounting, oil tank, cooling tin, etc.) And you get about 2/3 of the power of a Six. They're designed for spaces which are too tight for a 911 engine (e.g., the engine bay of a 356) without modification, and they work amazingly well there.

Not much point to doing one in a 914, though. You could do a Six for less money and get more power. So unless you're after the "wow factor" (which is certainly a valid reason!) I would skip it. Looks like most 914 owners feel that way, too.

--DD

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2011, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Aug 29 2011, 05:49 AM)

When I saw this thread I thought you were talking about the engine out of a VW Polo.

Me too ...

As for the engine above, i would tend to agree that for the same money (or less) you can get a real /6 engine with more power.

Unlike the 356, the 914 engine compartment was designed for the /6 engine.

Posted by: 71six Aug 29 2011, 01:11 PM

I think the compelling reason for the conversion would be the fact that it is over 100 lbs lighter than a six and can generate over 200hp reliably. This would equate into better weight distribution plus perhaps one would be able to run various wheel/tire combinations due to better front/rear weight bias. Also reinforced 901 transmission would be sufficient.
Mark

Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 29 2011, 01:14 PM

You could be the first!

A 3.0 with carbs and headers can pull a very strong (torque) 200+ HP reliably as well. Engineered by Porsche in the 914-6.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 29 2011, 01:23 PM

Don't get me wrong, its way cool.
Just not for a 914. Our engine bays are BIG and the added weigh of the "extra" two cylinders does not hurt much being low and centered.

In a bug, or a 356, or a 904 kit that would be killer, assuming you had the bankroll.

Zach

Posted by: mepstein Aug 29 2011, 01:40 PM

Because it's kewl.

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Posted by: JmuRiz Aug 29 2011, 01:43 PM

I'm guessing this came up due to the Pelican Parts thread where someone is putting one in his 912.
They were first created to make a hot motor for outlaw 356s that didn't want to hack up the chassis.

The lower weight is awesome, but the cost is staggering.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 29 2011, 01:59 PM

That guy's a customer... in Denver. Custom calipers all around. All sorts of little tricks in that build.

Posted by: rohar Aug 29 2011, 01:59 PM

The punch line is that the VW Polo 1.4 can be tuned to the same HP for much less money. And they fit in a teener without cutting any of the rear sheet metal.

Posted by: JmuRiz Aug 29 2011, 02:44 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 29 2011, 11:59 AM)

That guy's a customer... in Denver. Custom calipers all around. All sorts of little tricks in that build.

I KNEW it!
He posted pictures of his Brembos and I knew they had to be yours. Good work!

Posted by: nein14 Aug 29 2011, 02:46 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 29 2011, 12:40 PM)

Because it's kewl.

That is the Ultimate Cool conversion but if money were no object I would twin turbo charge it!!!!

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 29 2011, 02:58 PM

I saw these at a booth at a swap meet once. It was $25,000.

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2011, 03:32 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 29 2011, 01:58 PM)

I saw these at a booth at a swap meet once. It was $25,000.

For that money you could weld two 3.6L /6 together and make it a flat 12 with 600HP!!!

Posted by: CMONNETT Aug 29 2011, 04:38 PM

The Polo engine looks cool in a 356, but it's what you call cubic dollars.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 29 2011, 06:53 PM

QUOTE(CMONNETT @ Aug 29 2011, 05:38 PM)

The Polo engine looks cool in a 356, but it's what you call cubic dollars.

I bet its cheaper then a 356 carrera rebuild.

Maybe.

Zach

Posted by: nsr-jamie Aug 29 2011, 09:30 PM

That is super cool !! I think it would be cool to have a lot more power yet still keep it a 4 cylinder car and the cooling fan is sweet too...but not sure about the cost...if I were rich I would love one of those engines, heck I would probably have a bunch of 914's and sixes as well.