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Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 3 2011, 10:31 PM

I thought is was time to start a build thread now that it is clear the car will be completed.
The project started as a 1975 1.8 in good condition. Here are the specs for the car.
- Audi 2.7tt v6 with Vems standalone ecu
- Boxster (Audi 012) 5-speed transmission
- F&R suspension from 993

This is how the car has sat for about 10 years
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Posted by: JRust Sep 3 2011, 10:43 PM

Looks like you have your work cut out for you. The build sounds cool though. I think Rohar up in WA is doing an Audi motor too. Congrats on doing something out of the norm. Love to see your progress pics as you go along beer.gif

Posted by: rohar Sep 3 2011, 10:51 PM

Yup sitting on two Audi motors now smile.gif The 2.7 is a nice choice assuming the rings are still good. People tend to run the snot out of them, but I don't blame them. What're you planning for half shafts?

edit: I just noticed this part "F&R suspension from 993" I have a feeling where this is gonna go. Good on ya!

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Posted by: rohar Sep 3 2011, 11:00 PM

That is beautiful. Two questions: Why is your exhaust pipe sticking out where the front bumper should be? wink.gif How do you expect to live through the shake down?

Posted by: rick 918-S Sep 3 2011, 11:00 PM

Nice!

Posted by: kg6dxn Sep 3 2011, 11:21 PM

Very Cool! I will have to come visit you sometime...

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 3 2011, 11:40 PM

I guess my pics are to large so I will make multiple posts. These will be some of the underside of the car.




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One of my favorite angles
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Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 3 2011, 11:52 PM

Almost ready to drive. Waiting on the calipers to get back from the powder coater and some final programing of the ecu. Seems strange to see it as a whole car after 12 years of pieces in boxes.
The builder has already had it running but I have not heard it yet. I can't wait to hear it.

rohar- the half shafts are boxster, no mods required

If anyone local wants to stop in for a peek let me know.


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Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 3 2011, 11:55 PM

So now where does the top go?
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Posted by: cwpeden Sep 4 2011, 01:13 AM

Any concern for the plastic tail light buckets right next to the exhaust?

Posted by: mark21742 Sep 4 2011, 03:29 AM

Beautiful build! Can't wait to see this when It's finished!

Posted by: nsr-jamie Sep 4 2011, 05:57 AM

Wow! That engine looks pretty good in there....how many HP are you talking about? First time to see something like this...please make sure you complete the project and show us all with lots of pictures. We like pictures

Posted by: Vysoc Sep 4 2011, 06:13 AM


I guess my golf clubs will have to go on the passenger seat. idea.gif

That is A LOT OF ACTION - wow. flag.gif

Have fun!!

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Posted by: abnrdo Sep 4 2011, 08:44 AM

Awesome work. Cant wait to see more!! popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: kg6dxn Sep 4 2011, 09:50 AM

What I see is very impressive. I can hardly wait to see it in person. Only 20 miles away!

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 4 2011, 10:18 AM

We will be addressing any heat issues like the proximity of the plastic tail lights as we complete the car.
I believe that it is going to be around 325hp on pump gas.
The reason that I waited so long to start the thread is that I wanted to be sure that the car was actually going to be completed.
I will keep updating progress.
Thanks for the possitive comments,
Chris


Posted by: veltror Sep 4 2011, 10:42 AM

Stunning, this really is the dogs bollocks

Posted by: rohar Sep 4 2011, 11:59 AM

So after sleeping over my visceral excitement, I've got a few questions. Where'd you source the fuel tank? Looks like you ran cooling lines down the center tunnel, what are you doing for insulation around them? What did you do for a clutch pedal solution?

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 4 2011, 02:36 PM

I forgot to mention that we retained the power brakes and power steering of the 993. the pedal assembly is stock 993 so the hydraulic clutch was straight forward.
The fuel tank is 964/993 and bolts in to the stock 993 pan as does the pedals, brake fluid reservoir.

Posted by: jimkelly Sep 4 2011, 02:50 PM

why are all the most insane fabricators in CA?

that is looking sweet : )

jim

Posted by: rohar Sep 4 2011, 02:54 PM

I love the build so far. Guess I'm REALLY gonna have to step up my game this winter with all the amazing builds happening lately.

Posted by: kg6dxn Sep 4 2011, 03:45 PM

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why are all the most insane fabricators in CA?


Great weather and cheap drugs!
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Posted by: okieflyr Sep 4 2011, 06:20 PM

That is really cool! Is this going to be a street car? or track only? I am interested to see how you did the pwr brake setup. I couldn't see any bead flair on your coolant tubes. I ran mine through the console as well and it definitely cleans up the bottom of the car. popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 4 2011, 07:04 PM

This is going to be a street car and maybe occasional autocross. We will run it on the track to test it out but not to compete.
All of the coolant lines were beaded in place using an earls ez-beader.
The power steering was straight forward (if there is such a thing) using the pump that came on the engine and the rack that was included with the front suspension. We used a 993 reservoir that you can see mounted in the engine compartment behind driver.

Posted by: rohar Sep 4 2011, 07:14 PM

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That is really cool! Is this going to be a street car? or track only? I am interested to see how you did the pwr brake setup. I couldn't see any bead flair on your coolant tubes. I ran mine through the console as well and it definitely cleans up the bottom of the car. popcorn[1].gif


That's the next decision on mine. How's the heat coming from the console? I've got some terrible ideas for insulation if you notice it at all.

Posted by: okieflyr Sep 4 2011, 07:47 PM

Chris, where did you mount and link the vac booster for the brake system? Did you eliminate the ABS? I used the Earls bead tool as well when I had the steel lines. I've since gone to silicone coolant lines that are insulated inside the console.

Rohar, I do get a little bit of heat wafting. I don't think it is so much from the lines directly, as much as the air and vaccum dynamics pulling around the less than perfect body sealing. Engine heat is playing a role as well. The slight amount I do get is welcome on cool mornings and evenings with the top off. It's not much fun in the sun when it is 85* plus. Overall the heater core works well to clear the fog on the windshield on rainy days, and comfort in the winter.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 4 2011, 07:54 PM

The booster is included with the 993 front suspension.
Yes we eliminated the abs.

Posted by: rohar Sep 4 2011, 07:55 PM

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Chris, where did you mount and link the vac booster for the brake system? Did you eliminate the ABS? I used the Earls bead tool as well when I had the steel lines. I've since gone to silicone coolant lines that are insulated inside the console.

Rohar, I do get a little bit of heat wafting. I don't think it is so much from the lines directly, as much as the air and vaccum dynamics pulling around the less than perfect body sealing. Engine heat is playing a role as well. The slight amount I do get is welcome on cool mornings and evenings with the top off. It's not much fun in the sun when it is 85* plus. Overall the heater core works well to clear the fog on the windshield on rainy days, and comfort in the winter.


Not to threadjack, but it seems we're all in the same boat. I'm pretty much convinced my cooling is going down the tunnel. I'll take the top off it and push some steel tubes right through the middle.

I'm a little concerned about the heat in the cabin, so I intend to cover it with insulated pieces made of pearlite and silicone. Pearlite is an awesome refractory an light as hell. I'll add just enough silicone to keep it together. All the heat should exit under the car.

Posted by: kg6dxn Sep 4 2011, 08:13 PM

You could do a simple ghetto insulation. Get some rolls of heavy paper and Aluminum foil. then wrap several alternating layers; Aluminum, paper, Aluminum, paper... Wrap it tight and put 6-7 layers on it. Works very well. I would also recommend Aluminum electrical conduit for coolant tubes (available at electrical wholesale house) It will conduct less heat into the cabin than steel or copper.

Posted by: rohar Sep 4 2011, 08:24 PM

Meh, too hard and expensive. 1 bag of pearlite, $3 at the local garden shop. A tube of silicone, $8 at ACE. They're overly helpfull, when I walk in the door an "associate" asks me if he can help, I say yeah go get me a tube of pure silicon caulk an they do. I just realized they carry pearlite too. Guess I don't have to pull anything off the shelves. Mix until sticky and form. $11 for a lightweight thermal barrier seems like a good choice.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 5 2011, 04:28 PM

Here is a photo of the gauges that north hollywood speedo did 10 years ago and then were set on the shelf until 6 months ago when they had to redo the speedo again for the electronic speedo and then the tac to add the boost gauge. The temp had to be changed to water from oil and also the oil tank level was changed to a voltage gauge.
This should be the final configuration.
The interior was done in tan leather and wool carpet about 10 years ago. Maybe will finally be installed this year.
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Posted by: roadster fan Sep 5 2011, 04:44 PM

Wow! Cant wait to see it in person. That is gonna be a fun ride!

Jim

Posted by: rohar Sep 5 2011, 05:30 PM

Great, now it's going to be pretty too. There's no point in competing against this one. Good on ya!

Posted by: rohar Sep 5 2011, 05:32 PM

Oh, and the redline on your tach seems a bit low and your speedo doesn't go high enough smile.gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 5 2011, 05:39 PM

We realized the deficiencies in the gauges also but we are planning to have an on board computer to help track the actual speeds when being tested on the track. These gauges are for street driving.
We are planning a matte titanium paint job to keep things subtle.
I am hoping that the 930 flares will go on soon.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 5 2011, 06:09 PM

I found the original wheelbase dimension on Pelican Parts
Wheelbase= 96 1/2"
New Wheelbase= 97 3/4"


One interesting thing that we notice when hooking up the steering column was that it was off center and pointing towards the center of the car. So with the 993 steering rack having the input on the driver side we were able to move the steerng column to the center of the driver seet and have it pointing strait forward.
So many things to remember to post.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 9 2011, 11:39 PM

It felt like christmas today. I recieved the caliper rebuild kits from Bob at Sunset imports in Beaverton Or. Great prices compared to my local dealer and no sales tax.
I also picked up the calipers from the powder coater and they look amazing. Now I need to remember where I put the Porshce decals for them.

Then when I got home I had an email from Marc Swanson at EFI Express that had the base programing for the ecu. Marc is a great guy and very helpfull.

Very excited for this week, maybe I will get to hear the car run.

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Posted by: bigkensteele Sep 10 2011, 12:01 AM

It doesn't look like there is any room in the front for a spare. How will you power you windshield washers???


Yes, I am joking. Incredible build! Can't wait to see this unfold.

Posted by: Cheapsnake Sep 10 2011, 05:32 PM

Looks like excellent engineering and workmanship. That engine/tranny install is a work of art. Did you replace any of the structure/stiffness lost with the removal of the trunk floor?

Tom

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 10 2011, 06:29 PM

Thanks for the positive comments. The 993 subframe adds stability to the rear end and the builder added lots of reinforcements to the chassis. You would need to see it in person to really appreciate the detail and engineering.
All of the weight of the engine and trans sit on the suspension now instead of the hanging from the frame. Look at where the motor and trans mounts are located in relation to the pick up points for the rear sub frame. No more trying to fold the rear of the car with the trailing arms.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 13 2011, 10:51 AM

I have allways wanted big red calipers on my 914.
One step closer to driving.


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Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Sep 13 2011, 01:46 PM

can't wait to see this monster on some NorCal roads beerchug.gif

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Sep 13 2011, 01:50 PM

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Can you get heat resistant lexan to cover the rear? Why hide all that?
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Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 13 2011, 02:03 PM

Most likely there will be some large ducts in the rear lid that you will be able to see in but primarily
so the car will not get sucked off of the road at over 130mph like a normal 914. My buddy who is building this in my garage is a pilot and general all around einstien so I feel confident he will make it stick even if we have to run a wing on the track when we test it.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 14 2011, 08:06 PM

Here are a couple shots of the front suspension all cleaned up and put back together


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Posted by: jaxdream Sep 15 2011, 07:22 AM

Dem big hairy a$$ rotors !!!!! Ruuufff !
As close as you are to Bonneville , it would be a hoot to see what you could get there !!!
Jack

Posted by: Eric_Shea Sep 15 2011, 08:51 PM

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As close as you are to Bonneville , it would be a hoot to see what you could get there !!!


I agree... bring it on over.

Thanks for the lead Chris.

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 15 2011, 09:39 PM

Eric- They have great service at Sunset. I got everything in 3 days for $312 shipped.
Also got the calipers stripped and powder coated for $120 for the set.
It is so nice to find some good deals along the way.

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 15 2011, 10:24 PM

This thing is nutzo. smile.gif Nice work.We want smokey burnout videos,(drifting a bit is fine too). aktion035.gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 16 2011, 06:53 PM

Oh no! I seem to have misplaced my trailing arms.
I like this shot with the turbo in the back ground.




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Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 29 2011, 11:39 PM

We rolled the car out of the garage to do a good cleaning and took a few shots. Looks like someone besides me is very excited about the car.

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Posted by: nathansnathan Sep 30 2011, 04:12 PM

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Very cool build. Here's some inspiration/ food for thought in reagards to how to cover the drive train. It got me thinking about porsche number 1, how they re-did the rear lid in 2 pieces. It looks like the front piece lifts out.

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The old single piece lid
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Somehow it would be cooler to have it all in view unobstructed by the separation of the 2 lids back there. Maybe 1 piece hinged at the front.... smoke.gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 1 2011, 01:40 PM

Nathan,
We have been kicking around some different ideas about the rear lids, but because of the rollbar and the lack of structure at the rear of the car our choices are limited and will probably stay with the stock hinging. I think that with the rear lid up you will get to see everything anyways. Being able to see all of the goodies from the rear of the car will be the best angle so we ruled out the rear hinged lid.
This was a photo that got us thinking about the rear hinging.
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Posted by: smj Oct 23 2011, 05:53 AM

Great looking build! Please continue to share the names of the shops you're working with. Especially for us locals, it seems like we could save time by going to the same source...

You mentioned flares - what are you planning on that front?

Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 23 2011, 10:14 AM

Smj- The car is being built in my garage by a friend of mine who is from Redding and comes down to work with me in construction so this is a side thing he is doing while down here. He does do fab work for other people. If anyone needs anything his name is Stacy and you can pm me for his number.
-The engine and transmission came from B&R autowrecking in Corvallis Oregon. Ask for Jeremy at 541-207-9014. They have 5 yards in Oregon and Washington. I have bought parts for this car, work truck and wifes car through him and the prices are very good.
-The suspension I bought 10 years ago on ebay
-I have been making lots of trips to Parts Heaven in Hayward and beating up Al and Spencer on prices for the little pieces. 510-782-0354
-Sunset Porsche for dealer only parts excellent prices and no tax 1-800-346-0182
-North Hollywood Speedometer for the gauges and sending units 818-761-5136
-Summit racing for the radiator and expansion tank.
-Vems for the ecu (not for the beginner but nice product)
That is about it so far.

As for the flares we will be using front and rear 930 flares. I did have a very badly installed set of sc flares installed 10 years ago by a local guy that we cut off after getting the new suspension on and having the tires stick out 1.5 inches.

We did get the car running last week and it sounds incredible. I will get a video posted up soon.

Thanks,
Chris

Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 28 2011, 06:18 PM

Just when I thought I had it all figured out we changed direction on the flares. Looks like I will be selling my set of 930 flares and buying a set of steel 914 gt flares. Let me know if anyone has a set they are not going to use and also if anyone wants to buy the 930 flares.
Thanks,
Chris


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Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 28 2011, 07:15 PM

I need some part numbers... sad.gif I called Sunset and they told me "only complete kits with pistons etc."

Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 28 2011, 10:10 PM

Eric,
They only sell as a kit but the price is so good that it dosent seem to feel that bad buying parts that you really do not need. I tried brembo suppliers and bugged so many people including you to find a source for the scrapers and o rings and nobody could help.

Posted by: kg6dxn Oct 28 2011, 10:18 PM

I would buy your flares to fix up my 930 flares. But I'm saving for my engine rebuild. BTW, My car has 8 flares. The 930 sheet metal does not cover the wheel well. I have 2 flares at each corner grafted together.

Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 28 2011, 10:35 PM

Mike,
We knew that the 930 flares on the front were going to need to have an extension made up but the rear flares with the factory metal bumper extensions work. My car did have complete sc flares on the rear and 73 front flares already installed and we cut them off because the tires stuck out with the new suspension.

Posted by: kg6dxn Oct 28 2011, 10:41 PM

No rear bumper extensions on mine. Just double flares. I need to sand blast mine and fix some seams. The PO lap welded them to eachother and then to the fender. In his defence, it was a SCCA race car. There is evidence that the right side was replaced due to track damage at one time.

Posted by: Chris Scott Nov 1 2011, 10:13 PM

Sold my flares, now I need to find a set of 914 gt steel flares hopefully without having to pay retail. Let me know if anyone can help me.
Thanks,
Chris

Posted by: Chris Scott Nov 2 2011, 09:38 AM

Has anyone used Restoration and Designs gt flares?
Chris
http://www.restoration-design.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P359&Category_Code=914

Posted by: Chris Scott Nov 2 2011, 09:44 AM

Just called them and they are selling the AA flares

Posted by: 914_1.8t Nov 4 2011, 01:39 PM

Chris, I'm doing something very very similar, can I give a call next week...I'd love to come take a look at this and get some ideas if your available.

Posted by: Chris Scott Nov 4 2011, 06:43 PM

pm me anytime

Posted by: Chris Scott Nov 8 2011, 09:26 PM

Found a set of flares
Thanks Bud

Posted by: Chris Scott Nov 8 2011, 11:11 PM

My 5 year old is quite the car nut, he made me stop in at the local dealer so he could decide what car he would save up for.
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Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 10 2011, 01:06 PM

I just emptied out our storage unit and did not find the windshield that I though I had. Now it looks like I need one. If anyone local has one in good condition please let me know.
Thanks,
Chris

Posted by: Chris Scott Jan 20 2012, 08:04 PM

No real progress lately but did solve a couple of issues.
I purchased a new windshield for $220. Seemed to be the best deal I could find.
Also when we ran the car on jack stands and put it in gear we found out that the left rear wheel was bent. I looked everywhere and could not find a new barrel or complete rim so I started looking for someone to staighten it. I did finally find someone to fix the wheel and his service was fast and reasonable so I wanted to let everyone know about Kris from Curbside wheel repair 925-596-5603. He is out of Dublin but he picked up, fixed and delivered the wheel in less than 24hrs.

Posted by: 3d914 Jan 20 2012, 08:45 PM

Chris, can't wait to hear that engine. Be sure to post some vids.

ENjoy!

Posted by: Chris Scott Jan 20 2012, 08:52 PM

we will post it up soon. we are working on the start button and the removal of the ignition switch so the wiring has all been taken apart. I am very surprised at how quite the engine is at idle but still has a great growl when reved up.

Posted by: Chris Scott Feb 14 2012, 07:29 PM

Baby steps,
I finally found a couple of hours to get the new push button ignition switch wired up. Now i need to cut off the old switch from the column and fiberglass a new cover for the column. Feels good to get rid of one more failing original piece.
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Posted by: euro911 Aug 6 2013, 12:10 AM

Any updates?

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Posted by: Chris Scott Aug 6 2013, 09:14 AM

Went for its first test drive and it was absolutely amazing. I will post up a video clip soon.
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Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Aug 6 2013, 10:55 AM

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Posted by: Dr Evil Aug 6 2013, 03:58 PM

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Posted by: kg6dxn Aug 6 2013, 07:50 PM

I gotta come see this thing. I almost forgot about this project. Looks awesome!

Posted by: euro911 Aug 7 2013, 12:15 AM

Are you gonna fill in the rear area around the tail pipe outlet with expanded metal/mesh material?

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Posted by: Chris Scott Aug 7 2013, 08:59 AM

We were thinking of using the engine grille mesh to fill that area to keep the look consistent.

Posted by: zambezi Aug 7 2013, 08:59 PM

Copy cat. You mean something like this.
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Posted by: euro911 Aug 7 2013, 10:30 PM

Yeah, consistency or continuity were the words I was looking for.

Very nice smile.gif

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Posted by: Mueller Mar 3 2015, 11:12 AM

Wow....I just found this thread...too cool.

I'll have to come over and check this car out, I need to go visit Bob (blackmoon here) to get my Haynes manual from him once I start working on my car again, he lives off of Alhambra (I know, the longest street in Martenez)

Think you'll have the car ready for the weekly car shows this summer in Downtown? We go there and then eat at La Tapatia!

Posted by: siverson Mar 3 2015, 01:25 PM

Neat. I'm not sure how I've never seen this thread before either. Looks fun.

What is the current state of the build?

-Steve


Posted by: Chris Scott Mar 4 2015, 11:22 PM

Thanks guys for checking in. Not much has happened since its test drive. I am hoping to get things going this spring.

Mike if you want to stop in send me a pm when you are going to be in Martinez

Posted by: Mike Bellis Oct 1 2015, 10:30 PM

This thread needs an update! popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 2 2015, 03:01 PM

agree.gif How did I miss this build. Bad ass! Too caught up in my own stromberg.gif ? confused24.gif
Mike, we might also need a new forum dedicated to build threads to handle The Pandora's Box which Steve unwittingly opened. Cluster comes to mind. Now what was the 2nd word? shades.gif

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This thread needs an update! popcorn[1].gif

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Posted by: r_towle Jul 29 2016, 09:09 PM

Bump for an update?

Posted by: Chris Scott Jul 29 2016, 09:35 PM

Nothing good to report. We had a input shaft leak on the trans so we had to take it out and fix it and the really no bueno news is that we had to tear off the ecu and harness and go a different route. The car just could not be tuned properly. We have already started to build the new harness but time to play with projects is hard to come by so i bought myself a pacifier

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Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 30 2016, 03:50 AM

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Posted by: Reverend Troublemaker Jul 30 2016, 07:38 AM

I don't recall ever seeing this build either - very impressive indeed. Its hard to see these things through - without becoming distracted - I know first hand. Nice new Porsche you have there... that might just be the "death-nail" of the teener build... rolleyes.gif

T

Posted by: PanelBilly Jul 30 2016, 07:44 AM

Did you buy it for the drive train? Might make a nice teener project

Posted by: Chris Scott Jul 30 2016, 10:47 AM

Thanks, i am very happy with the new toy. Definitely not the death nail for the teener, as it is still my favorite car of all time. I drove a friends spec boxster the other day and it made me miss the 914. My friend who is building the car is going to be getting back into cars full time so there is hope that it will be completed in this life time.

Posted by: Reverend Troublemaker Jul 30 2016, 10:54 AM

Glad to hear it...looking forward to following the progress. smilie_pokal.gif

Tony

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 29 2016, 01:05 PM

Well i am sicker than i realized blink.gif
I never thought i would have a stock 914 again
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Posted by: 396 Sep 29 2016, 09:46 PM

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Nothing good to report. We had a input shaft leak on the trans so we had to take it out and fix it and the really no bueno news is that we had to tear off the ecu and harness and go a different route. The car just could not be tuned properly. We have already started to build the new harness but time to play with projects is hard to come by so i bought myself a pacifier

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First your Audi / 996 build looks fabulous- looking forward to the end result.

Also, love that "911 pacifier " there! You know how to enjoy the fruits of your labor pray.gif A Big Congrats.

Posted by: tygaboy Sep 30 2016, 01:55 PM

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Well i am sicker than i realized blink.gif
I never thought i would have a stock 914 again


Love, Love, Love that "new" 914! But your shop/garage is too clean - and not a jack stand to be seen. I'm not sure I can trust you.

Posted by: Cracker Sep 30 2016, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Sep 29 2016, 12:05 PM) *

Well i am sicker than i realized blink.gif
I never thought i would have a stock 914 again


Love, Love, Love that "new" 914! But your shop/garage is too clean - and not a jack stand to be seen. I'm not sure I can trust you.


LOL!

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Posted by: Mike Bellis Sep 30 2016, 06:03 PM

Chris, have you given up on your other project? Long time since an update... confused24.gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Sep 30 2016, 09:51 PM

Mike, i have not given up. I have 2 friends who asked me to keep an eye out for clean 914's and so i have been looking and then came across this red 73 1.7 that was painted in 1986 and never put back together. 2 owner car that has 68k miles. I could just not pass it up. So the way i was able to get the car was to tell the wife it would be a flip car lol-2.gif
I am going to try to keep it.

Tygaboy, As far a the clean garage goes, it is not mine. My friend who is building the other 914 is setting up the shop to get back into cars full time so he will be finishing that car sometime soon.

Posted by: Curbandgutter Sep 30 2016, 11:24 PM

Man I love what you have done. That view from behind.........dammmmm.

Posted by: csdilligaf Oct 1 2016, 07:00 AM

Really looking forward to seeing the 914/Audi finished as I have just started one with the 2.7t and Cayman S 6 speed and working with forum member Curbandgutter on the 996 suspension install on both our projects. Very nice work so far and the engine looks awesome in there.

Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 2 2016, 01:29 PM

csdilligaf,
post up a link to your build when you can. i would be interested in seeing what you are doing

Posted by: csdilligaf Oct 3 2016, 07:19 AM

I am sort of doing what you did, gather parts, get it going and some progress under way before I start a build thread. Things can take years to build. I've done one with 993 suspension and one with C5 corvette suspension and they took years to get done. I have a Machine shop that takes up so much time there is barely week ends to work on my car projects but I always have one going. Here is a pick of my 914/ 993 suspension.Attached Image


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Posted by: Cracker Oct 3 2016, 07:35 AM

Cool. Are you "coasting" down the driveway or under power? If its running, will you share a current state engine bay view of the build? Good job.

Tony

Posted by: csdilligaf Oct 3 2016, 01:46 PM

I talked too Chris Scott about his 914/audi 2.7t and he guided me on a few of the things I will have to tackle. Sounds like his will be moving along here shortly. I may turn towards the same stand alone ECU if I find them still available.
Not to highjack so I will be short, Yes it is under power with an LS6 and G50/52 with a quaife LSD. I have built two similar cars with this drivetrain. And that is exactly why I am now going the Audi 2.7/ Cayman S direction. I used to be power hungry thinking the most was the best. A telephone pole changed my mind about that.
I can't wait to see how Chis's turns out. This drivetrain is perfect for a 914 and it keeps the German theme. The trans is cheap enough and bolts directly to the Audi motor so that you can buy Audi clutch package rather than an expensive adapter set up.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Oct 3 2016, 06:33 PM

I love my Audi/Boxster setup. Only a 1.8t but still good for 325hp. I just don't have the suspension... Not that suspension anyway. The 911 and 930 parts still work pretty good... smile.gif

Posted by: Curbandgutter Feb 2 2017, 08:53 AM

Chris this is the link to the build

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=206845

I'm Rudy. I started the build of a 996 tube frame 914 with a home built chassis table and a 996 fixture jig. CSDILLIGAF saw it and wanted to do the same thing. So now we are doing twin cars. He is a master machinist and I am an engineer that loves to wrench and weld just as much as geeking out on engineering stuff. He will start to build his tube frame once my car is unbolted from the 996 fixture that I built.

I was originally going with a coyote motor but CSDILLIGAF "Chip" talked me into going with the 2.7TT. After I saw your build and remembering how a friend of mine had an S4 with a chip and how amazing that car felt, well it was not that hard to switch from the coyote to the 2.7TT.

I'm almost done with the full tube frame. Looking to install suspension this weekend and then on to installing 2.7tt with Cayman S G87 Tranny. Your project is awesome by the way. Thanks for "paving" the way.

Posted by: AZBanks Feb 3 2017, 12:58 AM

QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Jul 29 2016, 08:35 PM) *

Nothing good to report. We had a input shaft leak on the trans so we had to take it out and fix it and the really no bueno news is that we had to tear off the ecu and harness and go a different route. The car just could not be tuned properly. We have already started to build the new harness but time to play with projects is hard to come by so i bought myself a pacifier




I have a friend/business partner who builds complete plug and play VEMS systems with custom harnesses. He builds systems for several Porsche models, BMW, and Mercedes(and probably a few others we haven't talked about). He does base tunes with all his systems and can do custom tunes as well. He lives in Estonia(Eastern Europe) but is really good at responding on US time. He could build your harness and get your tune perfect.
He can deal with stock intake systems or custom intake systems. He has built up several ITB systems for 993s, 3.2 and 2.7 911's, etc.
He goes by raceboy on rennlist and pelican.

I can provide his contact info to anyone who has a VEMS system or would like to know more about VEMS systems.

Posted by: Chris Scott Jul 1 2017, 12:54 PM

I decided to change color and direction on the interior and will be selling the tan interior. I have posted a for sale add in the classifieds.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=312588
Thanks,
Chris

Posted by: csdilligaf Jul 6 2017, 07:49 AM

So is the work about to start rolling again? Looking forward to it.

Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 24 2017, 07:46 PM

Still not any progress to report other than finally getting the final wheels and tires. I did make a mistake on the offset and rendered my steel gt flares too small. So i picked up a set of Sheridan rears.

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Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 24 2017, 07:48 PM

Pics are too large. One more
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Posted by: Mueller Dec 24 2017, 07:56 PM

wow....I like it. Would love to see this car in person, available Tuesday afternoon?
Promised my girls Chik-fil-a in Walnut Creek that day so we'll be in your area...sorta smile.gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 24 2017, 08:01 PM

Saturday would work better since i have to work during the week. Pm me.

Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 29 2017, 07:24 PM

Finally decided on the next ecu and placed the order last night. Went with the Haltech elite 2000
Hopefully 2018 will be the year of the 914 for me.

Posted by: plays with cars Dec 30 2017, 11:23 AM

Wow! Interesting build and TONS of work completed. It should be a lot a fun when done.

Can you show more detail on the upper shock mount in the rear? Are there gussets below that are supporting the attachment point?

Did you have to narrow the track in the front or rear to fit the 993 suspension onto the 914 tub?

Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 30 2017, 01:43 PM

Mark,
It sure better be fun after this long of a process
The entire rear of the car was rebuilt to receive the stock 993 suspension so any repair parts are off the shelf. So no the track was not adjusted.
There are gussets under the shock mounting plate but we are going to add a skirt to the perimeter so it does not look flimsy.

Posted by: AZBanks Dec 30 2017, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Dec 29 2017, 06:24 PM) *

Finally decided on the next ecu and placed the order last night. Went with the Haltech elite 2000
Hopefully 2018 will be the year of the 914 for me.



Why did you switch ecu's?

Posted by: Chris Scott Dec 31 2017, 12:17 AM

because the first product could not run the engine properly

Posted by: Chris Scott Jan 7 2018, 02:18 PM

Its moving day. I am bringing my stock 73 home to work on and taking this car to my friends shop to get things rolling again.
When we got the car on the trailer we realized the front tires are too large. Oops, hopefully there will not be many more going backwards items.
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Posted by: Mueller Jan 7 2018, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Jan 7 2018, 12:18 PM) *

Its moving day. I am bringing my stock 73 home to work on and taking this car to my friends shop to get things rolling again.
When we got the car on the trailer we realized the front tires are too large. Oops, hopefully there will not be many more going backwards items.



Couldn't make complete lock to lock turns?


How many 914s are there in Martinez? We went to dinner last week and saw a nice yellow 914 with Panasports on Alhambra I think. If you have 2 914's that makes for 4 in that little town that I know of.

Posted by: Chris Scott Jan 7 2018, 04:23 PM

It can make lock to lock turns but it looks like an awd car. Too much rubber up front. Visually not so nice. I put 275/35/18 on but it looks like should have went smaller at 265/30/18.
I have seen about 6 different 914's in martinez besides mine but not sure if they reside here.

Posted by: r_towle Jan 13 2018, 02:43 PM

That rear suspension is really nice.
Must have been a tough moment with the sawmill when you made the first major cut to remove the unibody, but I love it..

Posted by: csdilligaf Apr 22 2018, 09:01 AM

Chris, I really like the wheels and tires. What brand and sizes are the wheels and tires?

thanks

Chip

Posted by: Chris Scott Apr 22 2018, 11:35 AM

The wheels are the fikse fm5s 18x10 and 18x12. They are a 3 piece wheel and i had them powder coated satin black. The anodized black that is an option on them turns purple over time.
The tires are nitto in the rear Nt550r drag radials dot compliant 335/30/18 and fronts are 275/35/18 NT555
The front tires are the same diameter as the rear but look funny so i will be changing them to get a shorter side wall.
Ebay seller directlinewheels had a great price on the tires.

Posted by: Curbandgutter Aug 30 2018, 02:34 PM

hello @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10948 I'm interested in understanding why you're going with the Haltech. Also, if you go with the Haltech will you be able to go with the original porsche gauges? By the way, did you ever get a video of the sound with that single outlet muffler? Also, the 265 width tire is what I am going with. I'm rethinking of not using the audi ecu on my build either as I want to clean up the engine compartment and not have to use all of the extra crap that they put on it.

Posted by: ri914 Oct 21 2020, 09:13 AM

wow, awesome build. Thanks for the electrical help YellowPorky.

Posted by: yellowporky Oct 23 2020, 11:42 AM

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wow, awesome build. Thanks for the electrical help YellowPorky.



Thanks and I am happy you found your issue so quickly

We have been slowly making progress on the car. We switched out the 5 speed for a 6 speed when we bought the CAE shifter
Also finally settled on the seats too. Had them sent over from the UK as they are not available domestically
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Posted by: Mueller Oct 23 2020, 11:51 AM

Glad to see you making forward progress on this.

Those seats look lightweight.

Posted by: yellowporky Oct 23 2020, 11:57 AM

LE standard seat made for the lotus elise
Very light and comfortable
I was torn between these and the Tillet B5 but I felt the looked more appropriate for the car

Posted by: Curbandgutter Jan 14 2021, 03:15 PM

Were you able to get the fuel injection issues worked out? Were you able to get aftermarket gauges to work or did you get stuck with audi gauge cluster?


Posted by: siverson Oct 17 2021, 12:15 PM

Super cool build and nice meeting you at WCR!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 17 2021, 03:17 PM

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Wow! That engine looks pretty good in there....how many HP are you talking about? First time to see something like this...please make sure you complete the project and show us all with lots of pictures. We like pictures


Jamie...your restoration and color change came out Awesome ! Mr. Shimada and his gift of the 1/20th scale 914 model to you is a great gift as well. Do you feel that "Special" model kits are best unbuilt/ or assembled ?? I have a 914 Revell kit that's been in the box + on the "Tree" for decades . I was a model kit builder in my teens, and my best friend's Dad owned a Toy wholesale warehouse; no shortage of cars, boats, aircraft smile.gif
...now back to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10948 !
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Posted by: yellowporky Oct 18 2021, 08:26 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=654

Thank you Steve it was very nice meeting you and all of the other members this weekend.
I hope you get your car back together for the next WCR!

Posted by: Justinp71 Oct 20 2021, 09:38 AM


Nice build!

Question (because I just went thru this) are there harness strap holes in those seats or will you use a 3 point belt?

I grew up in Martinez btw...


Posted by: tygaboy Oct 20 2021, 10:04 AM

I REALLY need to come see your build...

Posted by: yellowporky Oct 20 2021, 06:23 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2922
Thanks,
No there are no holes in the seats. We will be using a 3 point seat belt for street and a harness bar for the track.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241
The car is currently buried in the back of my friends shop since he just moved and is in the process of setting up his new larger shop. When it is out and back to being worked on it would be available to see.
I am hoping to bring it to next years WCR. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: yellowporky Apr 28 2023, 11:16 PM

Now i am absolutely sure is have a problem blink.gif
This is not why the 75 is not getting completed but it sure does help pacify me during the long process.
I came across a once in a lifetime opportunities and could not pass it up.
Low mileage 1970 914-6 from AZ and So Cal.
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Posted by: r_towle Apr 29 2023, 12:13 PM

that will make your project car take a very very long time.

But...nice /6

Rich

Posted by: yellowporky Nov 7 2023, 07:36 PM

baby steps still moving forward.
I decided to pick up a set of the 3dg auto headlights in the turn signal buckets since we deleted the original pop ups. This should save a ton of time on fabricating headlight buckets in the bumper as we had originally planned. Technology change is about the only benefit of the project taking sooooooo long.
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Posted by: 930cabman Nov 8 2023, 02:18 PM

What are the telltale signs of the addiction?

just can't get enough?

great project, and great collection

Posted by: yellowporky Nov 8 2023, 03:42 PM

If i do not admit that i have an addiction do i really have one confused24.gif

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