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Posted by: chad newton Sep 6 2011, 10:23 PM

Alright, are the best ways of strengthening the body of a 914? I want to weld in a role cage but I don't have a clue which kit to buy. I know the cage is a huge factor in making the body stronger. The car is at the stage now where anything is possible so please help me out, I only want to do this once.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 7 2011, 05:03 AM

QUOTE(chad newton @ Sep 7 2011, 12:23 AM) *

Alright, are the best ways of strengthening the body of a 914? I want to weld in a role cage but I don't have a clue which kit to buy. I know the cage is a huge factor in making the body stronger. The car is at the stage now where anything is possible so please help me out, I only want to do this once.

What does your rule book say about attaching the cage to suspension pickup points?
What does it say about tube material, diameter, and wall thickness?

The 'best' way is to have a professional do it - one who's done it before.
Can't recommend anyone in particular without knowing what area you're in...

Posted by: infraredcalvin Aug 28 2013, 11:54 PM

popcorn[1].gif I've been hoping to find a good 'for dummies' thread on seam welding with lots of pics showing specific areas.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 29 2013, 02:46 AM

I've read a lot of your Threads asking about different go fast items

I think you need to tell us what your objective is and then we can give proper advise. Are you going full race, a DE car, AutoXer, Street Performance, etc

If full Race Car, you need to learn the Rulebook of the Organization you want to run with. You need the cage to meet their rules, you need to know what class different size motors will put you in, what body mods are allowed etc. Also how big is your wallet?

a DE car is pretty much open, but somethings are hard to reverse

also show us pictures of the car

Posted by: Van914 Aug 29 2013, 04:00 AM

You should buy the cage listed in the for sale thread. I had one in mine and it is great.

Van

Posted by: Racer Chris Aug 29 2013, 06:56 AM

QUOTE(Van914 @ Aug 29 2013, 05:00 AM) *

You should buy the cage listed in the for sale thread. I had one in mine and it is great.

Van

A bolt in cage doesn't stiffen the chassis nearly as much as a weld-in cage.
Starting with a bolt-in cage and upgrading it to fully welded later on is a poor idea IMO.

Posted by: 396 Aug 29 2013, 09:11 AM

QUOTE(chad newton @ Sep 6 2011, 08:23 PM) *

Alright, are the best ways of strengthening the body of a 914? I want to weld in a role cage but I don't have a clue which kit to buy. I know the cage is a huge factor in making the body stronger. The car is at the stage now where anything is possible so please help me out, I only want to do this once.



Based on what I know of the players on this site ( some will not touch with a 20 foot stick ), If it were me, I would collaborate with Chris Foly. My impression, I he walks and talks what your searching for.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 29 2013, 01:44 PM

QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Aug 28 2013, 10:54 PM) *

popcorn[1].gif I've been hoping to find a good 'for dummies' thread on seam welding with lots of pics showing specific areas.

If your looking for "welding for dummies", you've come to the right place. av-943.gif lol-2.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: r_towle Aug 29 2013, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 29 2013, 03:44 PM) *

QUOTE(infraredcalvin @ Aug 28 2013, 10:54 PM) *

popcorn[1].gif I've been hoping to find a good 'for dummies' thread on seam welding with lots of pics showing specific areas.

If your looking for "welding for dummies", you've come to the right place. av-943.gif lol-2.gif laugh.gif

I thought this was painting for dummies???

Posted by: Dasnowman Oct 3 2013, 11:57 PM



I thought this was hell whole repair for dummies!

http://s156.photobucket.com/user/dasnowman1/media/Porsche%20914/F271FABD-8826-4ACA-80D4-A7914B25B9C6-1104-000002AC005BD03A_zpse2ec390e.jpg.html

Posted by: Dasnowman Oct 4 2013, 12:11 AM

QUOTE(chad newton @ Sep 6 2011, 09:23 PM) *

Alright, are the best ways of strengthening the body of a 914? I want to weld in a role cage but I don't have a clue which kit to buy. I know the cage is a huge factor in making the body stronger. The car is at the stage now where anything is possible so please help me out, I only want to do this once.



Most people go with a Long and GT stiffing kit... A lot of people on the forum refer it to the Engman kit as he was a respected parts builder here.


Since his passing it's really hard to find his parts but http://www.maddogsmotorsports.org/CHASSIS_KITS.html
has the same kind of stuff.

For a daily driver do not put a cage in as your head bouncing of the roll bar can kill you without a helmet on.

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