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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ a subtle wing

Posted by: vortrex Jul 20 2004, 04:41 PM

ebay


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Posted by: Cloudbuster Jul 20 2004, 04:48 PM

Is that a Ferrari in the garage?

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 20 2004, 05:14 PM

What, you never watched Magnum, PI? It's a 308 of some sort. Figures a 308 guy would have a 914 with a wing like that ........................... The Cap'n

Posted by: F4i Jul 20 2004, 05:16 PM

Somewhere there is a dodge superbird looking for that. ohmy.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 20 2004, 05:27 PM

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 20 2004, 04:14 PM)
It's a 308 of some sort.

could be a 328 as well ...

one wonders how good that wing will hold up at 120mph, bolted onto the deck-lid and all.
trick setup, it'll change angle depending on the flex of the lid!

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Posted by: ejm Jul 20 2004, 05:40 PM

Wonder why his neighbor put up such a high fence rolleyes.gif

Posted by: scotty Jul 20 2004, 06:27 PM

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trick setup, it'll change angle depending on the flex of the lid!

Yeah...that's probably why it's for sale: he got protested at his last race for having a movable "aerodynamic device" rolleyes.gif

Posted by: thomasotten Jul 20 2004, 06:38 PM

His neighbor put up the high fence because he was sick of looking at that bastard of a rear spoiler.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 20 2004, 06:52 PM

The wing is actually a very nice piece sold by Randy Beck (Chuck Becks son..of the "Beck 550 Spider"

We have a car at the shop with a similar setup.


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Posted by: Andyrew Jul 20 2004, 07:10 PM

I really do like that car...

Andrew

Posted by: URY914 Jul 20 2004, 07:55 PM

GT flares only on the rear??

Strange. wacko.gif

Paul

Posted by: Freedom Jul 20 2004, 08:23 PM

the car is good looking but to bad the wing and the mirrors do not compliment its fine lines.

Posted by: ablose58 Jul 20 2004, 10:37 PM

No, Don't like it. At least it matches the color of his neck! laugh.gif laugh.gif barf.gif barf.gif barf.gif barf.gif monkeydance.gif ar15.gif ar15.gif icon8.gif icon8.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jul 20 2004, 11:14 PM

If I had disposable income, I'd buy that car...Tonight.

I'd make the wing removable for track use only. cool_shades.gif

I want a race car. unsure.gif

Trek Man

Posted by: MattR Jul 20 2004, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 20 2004, 05:55 PM)
GT flares only on the rear??

Strange. wacko.gif

Paul

I saw a car with flares in the rear only in a junkyard today. It had stock wheels too barf.gif . yeah, i know they wouldnt put nice wheels in a junkyard car... but still.

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 20 2004, 11:44 PM

QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jul 20 2004, 05:52 PM)
The wing is actually a very nice piece sold by Randy Beck (Chuck Becks son..of the "Beck 550 Spider"
We have a car at the shop with a similar setup.

so, master, please, explain to us unworthy "clueless masses" how a wing that is bolted to the rear decklid can be a good thing, build and sold by "Randy Beck" and endorsed by your highness himself ???

this seems like a awfully bad spot to put a *few* pounds of pressure against (thin sheetmetal) ...

what are we missing?
confused24.gif Andy

Posted by: J P Stein Jul 21 2004, 02:40 PM

I clicked on that evilbay link at work last night and got a virus warning.....puter went bonkers.

.......the red accents look like shit.....said the guy with the primered fenders. laugh.gif

Posted by: GWN7 Jul 21 2004, 09:34 PM

I remember reading when Dodge came out with the roadrunner super birds that their wings did not have any effect on the cars until they reached 150+ mph.....

Price seems right for a 3.6 car. I'd loose the red accents and mirrors.

Posted by: Mueller Jul 21 2004, 09:49 PM

it needs front flares..........914's just look plain silly with stock front fenders and GT or 911/SC (sorry Cap'n) rear flares. 1st thing I think of when looking at a rear flared only 914 is "damn, it got rear ended and insurance only covered the back half of the car" smile.gif


Andy, I'm just guessing here since it's hard to see the bottom of the rear trunk, but maybe he has supports that once the lid is closed, the supports come in contact with the trunk floor giving it support unsure.gif smash.gif

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 21 2004, 10:06 PM

Andy,

All the wings sold by Beck come with custom supports that bolt in directly under the uprights. I dont agree about his uprights.. the one at the shop is done different (you have seen it many times) I cant comment on whether or not this guy installed the extra braces.. I tend to give people some credit until they prove me wrong. He did a decent job on the car.. cant imagine why he wouldnt have installed the extra bracing for support of the uprights.


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Posted by: SirAndy Jul 21 2004, 10:46 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 21 2004, 08:49 PM)
but maybe he has supports that once the lid is closed, the supports come in contact with the trunk floor giving it support

i might be getting old (and blind) but for the life of it, i can't see any support for the uprights in here ...

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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 21 2004, 10:51 PM

Upper right hand corner of pic. They are flat pieces of steel to distribute the load of the wing where the uprights mount. The uprights are not "just" mounted to the decklid.

Oh.. that particular area is VERY strong. The frame of the decklid triangulates right there.


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Posted by: Andy Jul 22 2004, 09:36 AM

Not to be a jerk but is the reinforcement just a sandwich plate on the decklid?

FWIW The Superbirds and Daytona RTs that had functional wings that big ran solid aluminum stock to the frame.

Posted by: maf914 Jul 22 2004, 11:08 AM

I would question the two parallel uprights. It appears that there is no lateral stiffness and that you could push the wing from the side and it would fold down parallel to the deck. It looks like an angled cross brace, or two, is needed to triangulate the assembly.

By the way, flexible wings are a hot topic again in F1. Everyone is accusing each other of using them to reduce drag at high speeds.

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