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Posted by: stugray Sep 28 2011, 10:10 AM

So I am planning on having my engine tins powder coated, and I cant decide what color would look the best.

This is for a stock looking vintage race car so there is some desire to keep it looking original.
It will have dual webers.
However the stock semi-gloss would make the engine bay look darker and make it harder to spot oil leaks.

The outside of the car is currently silver.
The engine bay is currently gold/champagne.

I eventually plan on painting the entire car viper green, or Chevy Synergy Green like Mikey914s sawtooth but probably not for a few years.
So a color that is compatible with all three would be desirable.

Also, for the fan shroud, should I have it painted to match whatever color the tins are, or leave it looking stock?

I have one fan shroud that looks like it just came off the showroom floor.
Maybe have that one clear coated?

Thoughts?

Also, any pictures of engine bays with different paint schemes would be great.

Stu

Posted by: ripper911 Sep 28 2011, 10:11 AM

Polka dots.

Posted by: zymurgist Sep 28 2011, 10:18 AM

I was going to say red until you said that the car will eventually be green. Too Christmasy.

Posted by: yeahmag Sep 28 2011, 10:25 AM

Black. Black sheds heat better...

Posted by: RiqueMar Sep 28 2011, 10:29 AM

I went for wrinkle black back when I had a /4. It looks really clean in the engine bay, and has a nice texture to it. These pictures don't really do it justice.

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Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 28 2011, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(yeahmag @ Sep 28 2011, 09:25 AM) *

Black. Black sheds heat better...

agree.gif Smooth, gloss black is easier to clean.

Posted by: Spoke Sep 28 2011, 11:29 AM

Painted the tin to match the car.



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Posted by: Marty Yeoman Sep 28 2011, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 28 2011, 10:28 AM) *

QUOTE(yeahmag @ Sep 28 2011, 09:25 AM) *

Black. Black sheds heat better...

agree.gif Smooth, gloss black is easier to clean.


That's the way I've always done it.
Gloss black engine paint on the tins.
Ford gray engine paint on the intake runners.

Posted by: rnellums Sep 28 2011, 11:41 AM

Chrome it for the bling factor!


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Posted by: yeahmag Sep 28 2011, 11:49 AM

I was ALWAYS taught "chrome don't get ya' home". Chrome holds heat...

Posted by: stewteral Sep 28 2011, 11:51 AM

QUOTE(stugray @ Sep 28 2011, 09:10 AM) *

So I am planning on having my engine tins powder coated, and I cant decide what color would look the best.

This is for a stock looking vintage race car so there is some desire to keep it looking original.
It will have dual webers.
However the stock semi-gloss would make the engine bay look darker and make it harder to spot oil leaks.

The outside of the car is currently silver.
The engine bay is currently gold/champagne.

I eventually plan on painting the entire car viper green, or Chevy Synergy Green like Mikey914s sawtooth but probably not for a few years.
So a color that is compatible with all three would be desirable.

Also, for the fan shroud, should I have it painted to match whatever color the tins are, or leave it looking stock?

I have one fan shroud that looks like it just came off the showroom floor.
Maybe have that one clear coated?

Thoughts?

Also, any pictures of engine bays with different paint schemes would be great.

Stu


Hey Stu,

I went with Flat Black powder coat on my metal and like the look. If you want the "Stock look" there is always gloss black.

Take a look at my pic and see what you think.

Best,
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Posted by: McMark Sep 28 2011, 11:54 AM

I prefer satin, instead of semi-gloss. Black is my choice, 100% of the time.

Posted by: 76-914 Sep 28 2011, 12:04 PM

Attached ImageI haven't seen purple, yet. Mine looks like one of Carman Miranda's hats. I did it to be defiant. happy11.gif

Posted by: '73-914kid Sep 28 2011, 12:10 PM

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Ford red Baby! happy11.gif


Posted by: Scott Schroeder Sep 28 2011, 12:10 PM

One of this clubs fiberglass guru's should try and make an amber set of tins for the 4 cylinder cars. I love the look of the raw amber on the 911 motors. Wonder how or if it would effect cooling?


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Posted by: stugray Sep 30 2011, 04:12 PM

Thanks for all the pics & advice.

I think I have decided on plain old black, However, I thought it would be cool to do "Black Chrome" which is usually a plating job but can be approximated with powdercoat.

Looks like this:

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The powder coating guy said he could do it, but would double or triple the cost.

Here is a cool link that shows the difference between: Gloss & satin.

http://www.chromedomemotorcycleproducts.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_83

I think I will go with the gloss-black as it looks the most like black chrome:

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Guy said ~$200 for all tin pieces including the small ones you typically dont see from the top.

Next question: I have a 100% perfect factory looking fan shroud (I think it still has a factory sticker). It is very clean and un-molested.
Should I leave as is, polish, or get it clear coated?

And finally, anyone want a complete type-1 fan shroud, fan, engine tins, rebuilt-generator & generator stand? Some are powdercoated black, shroud is zinc plated.
That was all that is left from my Ghia building days, just takin up space in my garage.

Stu

Posted by: r_towle Sep 30 2011, 04:16 PM

QUOTE(stugray @ Sep 28 2011, 12:10 PM) *

However the stock semi-gloss would make the engine bay look darker and make it harder to spot oil leaks.


Exactly why Black is the right color.

Rich

Posted by: 70_914 Sep 30 2011, 04:23 PM

QUOTE(yeahmag @ Sep 28 2011, 10:49 AM) *

I was ALWAYS taught "chrome don't get ya' home". Chrome holds heat...


But a little bling won't hurt a thing...

Posted by: Drums66 Sep 30 2011, 04:46 PM

.....Yeah, black......you won't be able to see the oil&grease idea.gif
bye1.gif shades.gif

Posted by: stugray Sep 30 2011, 05:20 PM

"But a little bling won't hurt a thing..."

Actually, if I could do all the tins to look like Eric's brakes I would go for it...
Shiny Yellow Zinc. drooley.gif

I'm sending my calipers out this weekend. Hmmm.....

What do I do with the fan shroud? Paint the nasty one I have and save the pristine one?
Or clearcoat the pristine one?

Here is the good one:
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The crappy one would need sand/sodablasting.

Stu

Posted by: stugray Feb 18 2012, 01:24 PM

Ok, never got an answer about the two fan shroud options above.

However, I decided that powder coat was not in the budget, but the shrouds are stripped down to the original plating and ready for paint.

I bought the "High temp engine paint" (usually used for headers) in flat black and am getting ready to paint today.
Any suggestions? I had the option of "engine paint" which said it was good to 500 degrees, but that sounded a little close to air cooled engine temps for me to trust.

I have been told that charcoal lighting fluid is the best for removing grease & wax, but I have almost any other paint prep chemical to be found.

What does everyone consider the very best to clean the metal with right before paint?

Stu

Posted by: reharvey Feb 18 2012, 02:09 PM

Gloss black and silver. It's the best!


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Posted by: my wife hates my car Feb 18 2012, 05:02 PM

QUOTE(stewteral @ Sep 28 2011, 12:51 PM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Sep 28 2011, 09:10 AM) *

So I am planning on having my engine tins powder coated, and I cant decide what color would look the best.

This is for a stock looking vintage race car so there is some desire to keep it looking original.
It will have dual webers.
However the stock semi-gloss would make the engine bay look darker and make it harder to spot oil leaks.

The outside of the car is currently silver.
The engine bay is currently gold/champagne.

I eventually plan on painting the entire car viper green, or Chevy Synergy Green like Mikey914s sawtooth but probably not for a few years.
So a color that is compatible with all three would be desirable.

Also, for the fan shroud, should I have it painted to match whatever color the tins are, or leave it looking stock?

I have one fan shroud that looks like it just came off the showroom floor.
Maybe have that one clear coated?

Thoughts?

Also, any pictures of engine bays with different paint schemes would be great.

Stu


Hey Stu,

I went with Flat Black powder coat on my metal and like the look. If you want the "Stock look" there is always gloss black.

Take a look at my pic and see what you think.

Best,
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Terry, how do you get the engine case /fan shroud so clean & shiny? I am in the middle of rebuilding my 2.0 (in pieces laying on the garage floor) & just wondering, is it just clean, or do you guys spray something on there? WTF.gif


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Posted by: 9146986 Feb 19 2012, 09:38 PM

I don't like flat black. It's harder to clean and always looks like primer to me. Like McMark, I prefer satin black. Duplicolor makes a pretty decent high temp satin black.

Posted by: StratPlayer Feb 19 2012, 10:07 PM

I'm going to coat a set of tins in black chrome will post the pics when their finished

Posted by: euro911 Feb 19 2012, 10:50 PM

Then tins on my new 2056 are powder-coated semi-gloss black. After going through all the trouble bead-blasting everything, I thought it was worth the extra cost over paint.
Fan shroud and transaxle are high-temp gray paint.

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Some nice looking engines out here smile.gif


Use a drill motor with circular wire brushes on the case if you want to get it looking nice and clean. It also gets rid of the spiderweb casting marks.

QUOTE(RiqueMar @ Sep 28 2011, 08:29 AM) *
I went for wrinkle black back when I had a /4. It looks really clean in the engine bay, and has a nice texture to it. These pictures don't really do it justice.

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Posted by: Ed_F Feb 20 2012, 01:48 AM

Like what others have said, black is your best bet. I learned this many years ago from T1 people who were dumping aftermarket chrome engine tin to go back to black.

Posted by: ellisor3 Feb 20 2012, 08:45 AM

I did black chrome tins in powder coat, and body color for shroud and love it

Posted by: ellisor3 Feb 20 2012, 08:45 AM

I did black chrome tins in powder coat, and body color for shroud and love it

Posted by: CG-914 Feb 20 2012, 08:47 AM

Just make sure you powder coat!
Everything else does not work in the long run!

Posted by: StratPlayer Feb 20 2012, 11:21 AM

Everything here is powdercoated


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Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 21 2012, 02:16 AM

BK-08, semigloss black nice.

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