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Posted by: seanery Apr 26 2003, 11:30 AM

Hi all,
Well I'm in Sunny SoCal and picked up my car yesterday. The parts haven't shown up for the side shifter conversion but I'm fumbling my way around with the car...man it's F'd up (the shifter).

I drove from Marina Del Rey to Pasadena last night and something weird happened.
I turned the heater on before I got off the 110 and about a mile down the road I turned the right turn signal on and "whizzack" the radio went off, the tack dropped to 0, the genny light came on. A couple seconds later the radio comes back and the tack and the gennie light dims a bit. Put my foot on the brake and no tack, radio, lights....

I haven't gone through the car since I got here (Pasadena) but I'm hoping its fuses or the gennie belt (I doubt this one, though).

Does anyone have the correct order for the fuses on the block under the steering wheel?

If so please give size/color starting at driver's left and move right.

I'm not so sure the sizes are correct on this car ('72 with a carb'd 2.0 installed)

Thanks All!!!

Posted by: Gint Apr 26 2003, 11:36 AM

Just stop at FLAPS and get fuses. Find a piece of sandpaper somewhere and start cleaning fuse contacts in the box and the fuse ends. Replace fuses as necessary.

Posted by: tryan Apr 26 2003, 12:08 PM

got meter?

i would pry the regulator open. (someone posted napa sells them, but i olny buy there in desperate situations)


pelican won't let me into the 914 diagram. i'll try the 924. the gen should be the 9th moving left to right?

Posted by: seanery Apr 26 2003, 12:48 PM

Does anyone know what size the fuse is?

Posted by: tryan Apr 26 2003, 01:14 PM

pelican is down. i seach on renn or shop talk. start with an 8 and see if she blows. it should not take may amps to excite the gen.

Posted by: krk Apr 26 2003, 01:24 PM

From Haynes, 1972, USA
1 High beam left
2 High beam right
3 Low beam left
4 Low beam lrifht
5 Parking light, left
6 Parking plate light
7 License plate light
9 Stop, turn and backup lights
10 (Fog lights)
11 Interior light, warning light, buzzer
12 Retractable hedlight motor

Caveates:

No values give for the fuses (I'm looking at the wiring diagram)

8 is missing (dunno what that means)

I'm guessing it's left to right, but the book doesn't actually seem to say. There is a pic that seems to say that the lights are on the left.

hth.

kim.

Posted by: krk Apr 26 2003, 01:35 PM

From the shop manual -- there are two diagrams for a 72.

The second one has:

8 Fresh air fan,horn, windshield wipers, cigarette lighter.

Dunno why there's two. Still no fuse values.

hth.

kim.

Posted by: tryan Apr 26 2003, 01:37 PM

check the power relay on the relay board (wiggle the feed from the hot side / unfused of #11 on the fuse panel)

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 26 2003, 01:47 PM

roadglue.com has one listed be back in a min,

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 26 2003, 01:48 PM

S1 8 Amp
Left headlamp, high beam
High beam indicator lamp

S2 8 Amp
Right headlamp, high beam

S3 8 Amp
Left headlamp, low beam

S4 8 Amp
Right headlamp, low beam

S5 8 Amp
Left parking lamp
Front side marker lamp
Left stop/rear lamp
Rear side marker lamp

S6 8 Amp
Right parking lamp
Right stop/rear lamp
Rear side marker lamp
Front side marker lamp

S7 8 Amp
Clock illumination lamp
Oil temperature illumination lamp
Voltmeter illumination lamp
Rear luggage/engine bay lamp
Rear license plate lamps (2)
Defroster lever illumination lamp

S8 16 Amp
Cigar lighter
Heater control assembly illum. lamps (3)
Fresh air blower indicator lamp
Fresh air blower motor
Windshield wiper motor

S9 8 Amp
Alternator charge indicator lamp
Low fuel warning lamp
Fuel gauge
Oil pressure indicator lamp
Tachometer
Left/right rear stop lamps
Left/right back-up lights
Oil temperature gauge
Voltmeter gauge
Clock

S10 16 Amp
Parking lamps indicator lamp (on dash)
Left/right fog lamps
Horns

S11 8 Amp
Hazard flasher indicator lamp (dash)
Turn signal indicator lamp (dash)
Parking brake warning indicator lamp (dash)
Left/right, front/rear turn signal lamps
Speedometer illumination lamp (2)
Fuel gauge illumination lamp
Tachometer illumination lamp (2)
Temperature control illumination lamp
Interior cabin light (backpad)

S12 16 Amp
Left/right retractable headlight motors (2)

Front fuse on voltage regulator plate is not used.

S13 25 Amp (rear fuse on voltage regulator plate)
Heater fan motor
Fuel pump
Rear window defroster
Auxiliary air regulator


Items not fused
Fasten seatbelt lamp on dash
Fuel injection ECU
Starter motor
Ignition switch
Headlamp switch
Fog lamp indicator lamp (dash)
Seat belt warning buzzer

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 26 2003, 01:49 PM

i dunno if this will help as its for a 74. Its the only reference i know of other than the manual.

Posted by: Anton Apr 26 2003, 01:54 PM

1=8 A Grey
2=8 A
3=8 A
4=8 A
5=8 A
6=8 A
7=8 A
8=16 A Red
9=8 A
10=16 A
11=8 A
12=16 A

Still, I don't think you had a current "steal" because of oxydized fuse contacts but that you have a faulty connection or relay somewhere.

Now would be a good time to buy a multimeter if you don't already own one...

Posted by: tryan Apr 26 2003, 02:03 PM

while your at the auto parts, get 4 small hose clamps. where the tail shifter arm comes out of the tranny, slip a hose clamp around the four sides where the shift rod ball fits in. it might get rid of enough slop to make it driveable 'till you get the side shifter in.

Posted by: Doug Leggins Apr 26 2003, 02:26 PM

From a 1970 owners manual:

1 8 amp left headlamp high beam
2 8 amp right headlamp high beam
3 8 amp left headlamp
4 8 amp right headlamp
5 8 amp left parking lamps
6 8 amp right parking lights
7 8 amp license plate lights
8 25 amp windshield wipers, ventilator, horn, cigarette lighter
9 8 amp flashing turn indicators, stop lights, back up light
10 8 amp additional headlamp
11 8 amp emergency flashers
12 25 amp pop-up headlamps, inside light

Posted by: MarkV Apr 26 2003, 02:33 PM

Owners’ manual from 73 is the same, all 8amp except #8 & #12, they are both 25amp.

Posted by: seanery Apr 26 2003, 03:00 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone!

I have a multimeter, but it's in Indy.

I'll go suss it out and see how she goes.

Posted by: boxstr Apr 26 2003, 04:07 PM

Sean, Sorry to read about a problem so early. There is a fuse on the battery, the PO had a stereo place install the radio, I found it when the radio stopped working, fuse was blown. Replaced, okay.
I thought the side shifter was done??
CCLINDAMPCAMP

Posted by: Brad Roberts Apr 27 2003, 01:40 AM

I dont want to be a DICK.. but where did you have this car worked on ??

Sideshift conversion missing everything should take ..oh about 8 hours to complete.

The I would have driven the car for a week back and forth to the shop BEFORE you showed up to drive it. 2000 miles....LOL

Whats UP ??


B

Posted by: East coaster Apr 27 2003, 04:44 AM

Check your grounds, especially if someones been messin' with your tranny. I had similar problems with a 914 I had until I found that someone had left a ground off.

Good luck!

Posted by: seanery Apr 27 2003, 10:08 AM

It's not my mechanic's fault.
I bought the parts from someone else early in April and they simply haven't shown up yet. I guess he(the seller,not my mechanic) said they were shipped via US Mail/Parcel Post. So, I really may never see them!

I'm trying to weigh my options, I can prolly find all the parts in SoCal, but I hate buying shit twice, especially since I know I'm not gonna be doing another side conversion anytime soon after this one.

James' shifter even may work on a sideshifter?
I dunno, I don't really have a time when I HAVE to leave LA.
I'm working in Anaheim W,T & F, hopefully the parts will show up before then and I can
drop the car back off.

It'll work out somehow!

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 27 2003, 12:17 PM

I live close to anaheim, but have no sideshifter parts ( I know, i know im a smart@$$) when exactly are you leaving LA? what is the overall plan/mission for you and the car?

Posted by: seanery Apr 29 2003, 05:43 PM

Well, the parts finally showed up and I'm told they are really rough.

Anyone have ideas?
What kinda parts do you SoCal guys have around?

Will James' shifter work well my car?
Can I get one in Time?

(starting to sound like the end of a bad '60s serial isn't it?)

Tune In next week to find out!!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 28 2004, 04:09 AM

Please, somebody transfer this thread to the "classic" section!! I just got yet another query about which fuse does what--it is something a lot of people need to know.

--DD

Posted by: HarveyH Jan 28 2004, 07:07 AM

I had the same problem last summer, gauges and indicator lights not functioning properly, going wild when I stepped on the brake pedal. Corrosion and worn through contact point on F9. (1974 car)

Harvey