If you could build yourself any 914...no $ limitations, no time limitations, all parts available, and most importantly infinite patience...what would you build?
The poll only has room for 3 questions so feel free to share other thoughts (like why) in the thread.
If money were no oblect...
H1-V8 and a sequencial 6 speed tranny. About $70k in engine and tranny...
http://www.h1v8.com
Or maybe just this...
This is what i came up with and there is always ways and things to add to improve it.
That's the beauty of these cars, there seems to be endless cool ways to do things to them, or keep them cool stock.
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I'd want to build a correct gt.
An electric 914 with state of the art batteries that would allow for 3-digit milage travel with a powerful electric motor. That would be fun to build - and insanely expensive.
How do you think I voted?
Porsche factory 914-6 race car.
The one that came sixth at LeMans would do nicely.
John
dup.
I would not build anything. I would buy either the Sonauto Lemans GT or the #19 Ralph Meaney GT- if not both of them.
Maybe a nut and bolt recreation of the good doctors 914-8 - but it would have to be an absolute perfect replica.
Running.
--DD
Right now my head is in autocross bigtime, so it would be a flared F Prepared car with a built 2.8 twin plug in it. However, if money was no object I would probably be road racing, in which case I'd go GT2. That actually wouldn't be much of a different car except the motor and setup stuff. I haven't researched GT2 enough to know which engine I'd go with, but probably bigger than 2.8
Mark D.
Not listed above.......,
Bob
This works for me.
Jerry
If money were no object...
Scott would paint a tub for me, adding flares, fixing rust, a little chassis strength, etc.
The tub would get a 3.6L 6, 930 transmission.
It would have AC, heat, sound proofing.
Joe would help me put in a sound system.
Full leather interior. Tan. Cocomats on the floor.
Zach
Big four. If cost isn't a thing, Jake builds it for me. Narrow body, although I would allow for some subtle custom flaring (not doing a GT here). 5 lug Fuchs, 911 suspension. Keeping it simple and light and maintainable.
Oh yeah, no center console. I like the wide open cockpit... if I want to see a center console I will drive the Vette.
My ideal would have Tangerine flares, Penske coil overs and all the other chassis goodies to be able to handle the Le Mans spec Cosworth DFV and Hewland gearbox.
Carbon hood, trunk, roof and as light as it could be made and still streetable. A scottyb paint job would make it pretty.
The other TC
Since I have limitless funds and fabrication skills in this dream...
A narrow bodied stock looking flat 8 sleeper, like the Dr.s. no idea if it could be done, but maybe take the Polopolus 911-4 concept the other way and cut & weld two motors together to make the -8.
Or, somehow adapt a full Corvette C5 suspension to a super wide body IMSA looking car with an LS motor.
Cost not object 914:
I'd take a 917 and put a 914 body on it.
2.7 L air-cooled 6, converted to 4 valve with variable timing, flat fan and MFI or itb/efi. Lotsa titanium. Tastefully lowered, 1-piece carbon flared fenders/qtrs. 901 sequential box. I know, I know
A narrow body 5 lug with appropriate retro wheels and a cool paint color packaged with a Raby Engine, HAM heads, Raby Cooling, Dr. Evil Tranny, custom exhaust (cherry bomb), Eric Shea brakes/suspension, suspension upgrades-Tangerine & Elephant, new harness, Mikey top, custom carbon fiber/leather interior.
Subaru turbo diesel with the 6 speed subaru tranny geared to the turbo diesel. only 160 hp but stump pulling 300 flbs of tork. Out pull a ls1 and get 45mpg!!! SWEET
jcl
A BoxsterS with a hop'd up 996 engine. Heat, AC, airbags, and mid engine handling.
I'd start with a Numbers Matching Factory 6.. Extremely well documented. A 1 or 2 owner car max. 60,000 miles or less..
Have it done over to stock specs like a couple of cars I have seen here.
Narrow body, 14" Fuchs.. Just as new..
Remove the Original engine and shelf it.
Have a 2.5 S/S engine built.
Aluminum Case.. All the goodies.. Twin Plug S heads and Cams..
MFI or Newer Injection with Individual Slide Throttle bodies. Stainless Headers Minimal mufflers.. Lots of revs and lots of noise..
Use as necessary... When done.. Put the original engine back in and sell for top dollar.. Sell the 2.5 on PP after car is sold..
If money were no object, I would have the factory build me a brand new galvanized, 914-6 3.6L
A third "factory" 914-8 - & since both others were "custom factory jobs" - I'd like mine with the following please:
> the period-correct aircooled flat 908 H-8, SS exhaust system, & sideshift 915 (IIRC) transaxle,
> hot dipped galv. & undercoated narrow body in Metallic Blue with urethane/styrene foam body panel injection delete, with Mahle Gasburner 5-lugs, single 7" diam. H4 80/100w headlights & Foglamps with full App. Group chrome bumpers/grills with Mark's better rubber top pads & sail vinyl/chrome trim, hood, grill & rear 914-8 badges, etc. - but I'd retain the removable targa top & brace the unibody in some other way,
> 73-74 interior with updated dash/vents & adjustable passenger seat & center cushion/hinged box in Tan leather & wool loop pile carpet, full 911/908 instrumentation at the instrument pod & center console, vintage USA dial German AM/FM radio with the mod-set-up for hidden aux input, with "modern" AC in a period look underdash supply!
> I'm sure that there's more, but this is not a real order yet....
...or are you taking orders for us & covering the unlimited cost!?
To look like this one:
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... but like this other factory 914-8 narrow body in the silver one:
AKA - a vintage type street screamer!
....oh & a great old school mechanic & body man, plus a full stash of all mechanical & body/interior parts to keep it fresh for many decades!
I would simultaneously and completely disassemble two 914's.
One I would restore/refresh to original spec using as many NOS parts I could find and wherever possible reuse the original parts, keeping it in it's original Phoenix Red.
By now it would look something like this:
The other 914 would be done to fulfill my wish list. Irish Green, flares, 3.2 Motronic engine, full Cognac leather interior, RSR finished Fuchs . . .
By now it would look something like this:
And while pondering the folly of man for undertaking such a foolhardy task, I would console myself in one of these:
And lastly, I would want a very understanding wife.
I love this thread...
John
930 engine, 930 trans, flared body, 7 & 9 Fuchs, 993 suspension Thanks, and please try the fish
I would have to have two: fairly stock 2.0 but with some mods...carbs, tires, etc. the other a LS1 conversion with 911 suspension
An Audi rs8
Mine would look like this . . . a modernized 914
with a 2.4-2.7L twin turbo flat six.
A bone stock untouched original paint 5 lug fuchs low mile 73 1.7
http://www.914world.com/roadglue/forum/showthread.php?t=743
I'm not trying to take away from the inherent coolness and fun of this thread, but it got me to thinking a bit. And that's always a risky thing.
I suppose there is always going to be a difference in what I consider a dream car and what many others would call a dream car. With the caveat that "money and time are not issues" one can dream up whatever their imagination would allow including, sometimes, things that cannot or will not ever exist. I find that somewhat dissatisfying personally. Creative, but not something I dwell on for very long.
Obviously in reality money and time are always issues. Dream cars, therefore, are in my opinion more like the answer to this question: "what would you really *like* to do but money and/or time is holding you back?" I like that better because it implies that given the will, one can usually achieve those dreams. Money and time are challenges to be overcome, not to be acknowledged as preventing dreams from coming true. I know, I know, easy for me to say, right? Well, it sounds cheesy and there's all sorts of circumstantial stuff going on that changes all the time ... but then the dream car can and should change with those circumstances methinks.
In that vein, my own dream 914 is being realized in Florida at Series9 by Joe O'Brien as we speak (chassis is almost done being painted - main thread is over at clubnarp.com by the way). It's turned into something that was not originally planned (going pretty far with upgrades to the 3.2). It became something that my circumstances allowed, surprisingly, and so ... well, I guess this isn't a dream car any more 'cos as they said in the Big Lebowski, "if you will it dude, it is no dream."
Now, I dream about having a car that uses no gas, flies, ignores inertia, and ... wait a minute, that's the starship Enterprise... oh heck with it, I voted big six, flares/five lug, and street/track 'cos that's what I'm doing.
I would want the engine, brakes, running gear and computers from a GT3RSR morphed into a wide body 914.
A real '70 /6, white, with a 911/83 motor and a M&K muffler. Perfect Fuchs, body, paint, and interior. That would be my dream 914.
I chose a big 4 with narrow body 5 lug. A lightweight, (relatively) easy to maintain 4 with 150+ hp is the "914S" the factory should have built and probably would have sold much better...likely at the expense of 911 sales!
Custom built TDI 1.9 turbo diesel pushing 230hp & 250 FPT. Boxster/Audi 6 speed tranny. Custom flares with Boxster radiators integrated in the rear flare on each side. 16x8 fuchs fronts & 16x9 rears. Custom a/c & heater using stock vents. Absolutely bumping stereo with 10" subs behind each seat set in the firewall. They would be sealed up in the engine bay. I love Phoenix red with black wheels/bumpers,valance & rockers. Although as this 914 will be so far from stock I may just go with some non Porsche color
Oh yeah I would still get at least 50MPG
This....
http://youngstown.craigslist.org/cto/2723755886.html
been there, done that, got the tee shirt.
The RS build was my first attempt at this concept. Now I have 993TT ideas rolling around......
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Good to know I am "normal"!
jonathan
hwgunner
Have to jump on the band waggon with Eric. Factory GT!
Being a track junky and a fan of the hippie paint scheme, I would want this one!
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how 'bout a hot dipped galvinized one that don't rust!
A street legal 917...at least it would still be a teener!
I would have thought owning a V8 would be a little more popular than what the voting shows. For me, I would never want a 95 HP car. I am an old school muscle car guy so I am a V8 person. I guess it does not matter. We have cars that we love and who cares about what other people say.
Happy Holidays to all
I'd have to say GM ls based stroker with twin turbos through maybe a subbie 6 speed in the 914 I'm currently building, but since I do have a tight budget I'm running a turbocharged Honda d16 and tranny
Funny, i just realized this is the same car Eric posted on the previous page. Except in his pic it's all nice and clean.
If were talking money is no object then
I guess i'll go
FURMAHN engine
but I imagine a tune up could get quite expensive on that thing .
not alot of guys working on d-jet , but dohc air cooled 4's . that's a expensive guy
I'm living the dream now - I have an electric 914 with a real-world range of 55 miles (at San Diego Freeway/Autobahn speeds). New motor is going in soon with 250Nm of torque (184 ft-lb) - and this from 100RPM! I would have gone for a stronger motor (420Nm), but was afraid of breaking the tranny.
Newer batteries will extend the range, but that (as has been noted) will take some serious coin. My current battery pack set me back $9k - but this is getting cheaper all the time. Once I'm happy with the current arrangement, I was thinking about updating the transmission to a subby, but that takes time (since we are ignoring the money aspect).
So, toss in the flares, 5-lug wheels, updating trans, major battery upgrade and the huge 420Nm (310 ft-lb) motor, and now we are talking about some serious Corvette spanking.
Cheers!
Peter
I would love a
full carbon fiber chassis/body (GT flared)
coil over 4 corners,
GT2 engine (type 997),
G50 turbo trans with limited slip,
full leather interior,
prototipo steering wheel,
fikse wheels 7s and 9s
Big 6, 5 lug, Narrow body and drive it.
All those paint chips in the hood just add personality.
A big four isn't 2056.
I'm not sure exactly what it'd become, but I'd probably start with one of these and work from there:
I'm changing my previous entry.
Big Raby 4, matching Dr. Evil transmission, new Eric Shea 914/6 calipers all round, almost all of Racer Chris's suspension/steering stockish upgrades/fixes, and custom all-electric air conditioning. Preferably, 5 lug with either Pedrini's or stock Steel w/the correct hub caps.
The body style either a narrow 916 or a narrow Rally type 914/914-6. Painted in pre-A/A lacquer paint. I'm thinking of Fish Silver Gray (505) or Radium Green (510).
Cost no Object :
Big Raby 4 $10,000-$30,000
Dr. Evil Tranny $2,000
Eric Shea 914/6 calipers $?
Racer Chris $2-5G
A/C $2G
Wheels $2-5G
Everything else $5-8G
I might just do most of this anyway.
Steve's M471 with TC's 2.9L Twin Plug and big slicks.
I saw both in the same day and will never forget either.
J
I would choose a Raby 4 in a narrow body, 5 lug, 911 suspension, 915 limited slip, with these flares:
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii150/Cohibra45/Porsche914flare1.jpg
I really like these flares as I feel that they maintain the 'narrow' body lines and allow for the 16x7 and 16x8/9 rears!!!
Peter, I'd love to see your car sometime - sounds interesting!
Definitely a 917 street legal (even in California); the ultimate car in my books. Otherwise, complete my 914-Sixer by cleaning up and painting it. Then enjoy driving it for pleasure on a daily basis. I like the cars shown here and they are excellent items for unlimited money and enjoyment.
Steve
Mine would be a little bit more unusual than the crowd as I use my 914 for 2 purposes, 1 a fun street car and 2 a competition audio car
So primarily I would want to remove the fuel tank and be able to put a Velodyne subwoofer in the firewall, as well as mount a pair of Image Dynamic horns with TAD drivers as deep into the firewall as possible.. The mids I would want in the kicks, but there is not enough airspace in the kicks as they stand to gain a proper bass response, so I would need to delete the warm air pipes and then vent the speaker up into the front scuttle and down the sill pipe - The whole interior would be retrimmed in black Alcantara, with a simple dashboard back in place, but simpler and more acoustically transparent and throw a Marky top on it...
I live in the UK, so need heat in the car, and as I have deleted the warm air supply I would need to go watercooled - so a current model Porsche flat six would be fettled to fit with rad up front with a 930 box.
Black body with wide arches and polished fuchs to finish off. Pass me a tissue......!!
narrow body with 5 lug suspension and suby 6 with suby trans.
i feel giving up the front (cool temp) trunk is an acceptable compromise for a modern drive train.
i think suby 4 turbo has tons of cool cred though : )
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=102887&hl=
Full Carbon Fiber Chassis with GT Flares.
911 RSR front suspension with Boxster S calipers.
Boxster S Rear suspension.
Boxster 6 speed Transmission.
VW W-12 Motor with ITBs.
16x9 Fuchs all the way around.
All leather interior.
AC and Heat.
to bad you don't list a small bore -6
the 81mm, twin plug 906 motor is a lot of fun!
Funny, I might need unlimited budget just to fix up my current herd...
But seriously, Other: I'd ask the guys at http://www.moal.com to reinterpret the 904 body with the practicality of the 914 in mind. I would probably require them to keep working with a flat six for low center of mass. I would allow them to consider watercooled variants, but require an aircooled option. Must have six forward gears.
if I couldn't have a Polopulus inspired air cooled flat 8 cut and welded from two -6 motors I would want a full tube frame widebody car with C5 Corvette suspension, brakes, & engine.
Effectively a GT clone, but with a 3L 908 flat eight. I would rather go for ultimate Porsche coolness than maximum power, etc. And I while I am sure it can be stuffed in by cutting enough metal, I would not put in a flat twelve from a 917.
Who wouldn't want this sound in their 914?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McKRagEpqnk
I would do my own transmission.
Richard
This Thread bothers me.
Stop dreaming and start building!
Lozano prepared cayenne v8 5.0L , sequential Quaffie, Sheridan wide body.
All stuffed into a '74 with title, California plates, street + track 914.
Should be good enough for the HOV lanes
My list is very very short.......
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This is a tough one.
I already have a cost is nearly no object 4 cyl. race car,
and I love the 3.2L 916 Carrera GT we just finished.
But I voted for a flared 5 lug electric 914 since I'm already on a long term plan to build one for Mary.
My no cost 914 would be:
-Cayenne V8 TT engine (bored out to 5.0 litres by Lozano Brothers Porting, look 'em up if you don't know who they are)
-1200 whp
-Sequential G50 transmission
-Centerlocks
-Sheridan widebody (10" wide front/14" wide rear)
Then again, I'm already more than halfway accomplished with this..
I'm beginning to believe that after 14 years and 10's and 10's of thousands of dollars spent that mine has become a cost-no-object 914.
Oh well, I guess I'll just keep spending along....
I need two 914s in my unlimited budget. The first is a 2.5 short stroke twin plug GT replica, the second is a Hartley V-8 conversion with a sequential transaxle.
I am surprised nobody has mentions Lotus Elise double a-arm suspension. This could easily be done on a street car and is absolutely amazing compared to the 40 year old Porsche stuff.
-Britain
If $ weretruely not an issue...i would buy the parts from Porsche to assemble a new 914. I think they have all the parts...the body is about a $30k part, but according to my local dealer, they have the parts.
All aluminum LS7-R engine, paddle-shifted limited slip sequential transaxle, magnetic ride control shocks, carbon rotors, michelin pilot sport cups on forged titanium wheels, sheridan widebody kit, tube framed, w/AC, lexan roof...
Baby, do we need milk? I'll get it!
In today's market, with a limited (not carreras gt budget) I would say get a cayman and swap in the newer 3.8 liter gt3 motor, or a turbo motor.
I would like to reserve judgement for when my 914 RS is done.
I know, shameless plug for Joe O'Brien's work, but I'm going to enjoy showing it off when it's done. It will be worth seeing and talking about.
I'm waiting for Jon to be bored of his new 914 and sell it to me.
Price to be negotiated.
Who needs a built 914 when they have a 968 in the garage?
This guy, Dave. THIS guy!
I think I'd take the Sahara Beige 914, just as it is...or mine in the same condition:
Money no object? Time no object?
Alright, then.
Let's power it with one of these:
And here's the dash:
Although, this would be more fitting for an Irish sports car. Not a German one.
Sherman style body kit done in a one off Dry Carbon Fibre body
alum tube chasis with C/F reinforcements
Suby Crosworth built 2.6 with big heads
Borgwarner S300sx 83-75 .91AR T4 TS Turbo
Custom air to Water cooler
Custom Twin-Scroll Header and T4 Up-pipe
Custom 3.5" Catless Downpipe
Dual Tial 38mm V-band Wastegates w/ external dump tubes
07 Sti Tranny twinn plate racing clutch
Vi-Pec V88 Standalone ECU with Anti-Lag and Launch Control
Brembo 6 pots in front 4 pots in rear
Ohlins on a custom BRZ/FRS suspension
Custom deep dish C/F rims 17x9 frt and 17x 11 rear
recaro racing seats with heat/ac cooling built in
With cost and time being no object, the first thing I would do is find someone to make the vent windows functional.
My inspiration. Ah, the red with tan interior at Camp is mighty nice. Where is that $15K I lost?
Tom
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Thanks Andy, look forward to seeing your car when she's done too! It's gonna be a good year of events, if you can get your assembly done before the summer/fall events in 2013! I've really been hoarding my vacation specially for that reason. Truly, some projects come out cost/time no-object whether you started out that way or not.
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